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Because I know y'all will be curious: We're buffing the wind brothers because they suffered substantially from the Shieldbow changes and dropped to around 47.5% winrate each, a fair bit lower than intended and lower than the other Shieldbow bound champs.

Champion Buffs

Nocturne

Volibear

Yasuo

Yone

Veigar

Tristana

Senna

Champion Nerfs

Shen

Talon

Qiyana

Lulu

Zed

Champion Adjustments

Tahm Kench

Janna

Rengar

System Buffs

Lich Bane

Rylais

System Nerfs

Lethal Tempo

Chemtech Soul

Hextech Soul

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5 days ago - /u/TheTruexy - Direct link

Just since there's understandably going to be questions about Yasuo/Yone. We are touching them because 1) they fell quite a bit due to shieldbow nerfs. 2) their overall winrate is lower than other champions after the nerf. 3) we are also adjusing Lethal tempo for melees to be weaker, which is another nerf.

Some champions (like Samira and Quinn) took a hit as well, but either aren't as low overall winrate and/or aren't affected by Lethal Tempo as much.

5 days ago - /u/TheTruexy - Direct link

Originally posted by Wontfinishthesent

Samira lost 2,5% winrate on lolalytics but I guess you have better statistics at riot. I still think she needs some love though.

Samira was definitely someone we talked about. She definitely fell as much as the windbros, but is still at a slightly better winrate overall. She is on our radar since she is definitely weaker.

5 days ago - /u/TheTruexy - Direct link

Originally posted by SpiralVortex

Do you know if the shieldbow changes from PBE are going through or were they just something being tested and not confirmed yet?

I believe the PBE changes were just tooltip changes that didn't get submitted in time for the last patch. There arent any planned changes for 12.2.

Originally posted by Odkrywacz

We're buffing the wind brothers because they suffered substantially from the Shieldbow changes and dropped to around 47.5% winrate each

What about Samira???

Samira isnt on here but will be getting buffed

Originally posted by Wontfinishthesent

Samira lost 2,5% winrate because of the shieldbow change but people only care about yone and yasuo it seems

Mentioned elsewhere but Samira will also be getting buffs

Originally posted by CrystalizedSeraphine

Do you think the Zed and Lulu nerfs are targeting her banrate rather than specifically power?

Lulu is because winrate, Zed because banrate

Originally posted by AmWhaleIRL

Any specific Buff you're exploring that you can share?

Undecided, looking at R buffs

Originally posted by AmWhaleIRL

Any specific Nerfs you're exploring that you can share?

Dejavu. Undecided, probably looking at W nerfs for Lulu and R nerfs for Zed.

Originally posted by AmWhaleIRL

I just saw Zed's Banrate at 49.9%, what's your guy's internal data say?

Haven't looked at it recently so can't say for certain but it has consistently floating a little above 50% for quite a long time

Originally posted by TheForrestFire

Any news on Graves? He was hit pretty hard by the nerfs as well.

No news on graves as of right now. His builds are more flexible so he has other options compared to some of those that were hit harder.

Originally posted by AmWhaleIRL

Lol thanks for all the responses so late! You personally interested in any of the VGUs from the Poll? I'd love to see Shyvana imo

Shyvana was an easy vote for me, some of the champions in the poll im not a huge fan of, but I think Shyvanas potential to be pog is what won her the vote for me.

Originally posted by Exldk

Finally me permabanning Zed for the last 3 seasons pays off.

However, I don't even remember how strong or weak he is. All I remember is that regardless of what lane I play, he somehow ends up 10-0 before laning phase ends.

It's like the Katarina syndrome a la no matter what you do in a lane against her, at one point she is gonna return to lane with 3 random kills.

Yup, as a player I understand how you feel. As much as you know that, obviously this champion doesnt just have a 90% winrate and they dont just stomp literally every game they are in, but it feels like it. When we look to nerf because of banrate we generally don't want to take away power as much as we want to tone down something that makes that champion frustrating our unhealthy. To be clear, usually this still involved taking away power somewhere.