[2022] (ARAM) Impossible to push if you get slightly behind.

Originally posted by dirtydoughnut

Please do not use the idea that shorter Aram games are better to justify the one sidedness that hexgate/respawn timer changes caused. There back and forth was a much more fun dynamic, for all ten players

Originally posted by TheMurder21

Its both. Prior to the tower rubble, you could always "see" your opponent unless they were hiding deliberately in a bush but you always had space to maneuver around.

Now even if the enemy retreats, there is nowhere you can go. You are basically always pushing blind while being funneled into the remaining position. This means you are disadvantaged by both lacking vision, and also lacking the ability to maneuver around because you just positioned yourself between a literal rock and a hard place.

This adds to the point of why being behind basically dooms you. It puts you in a position where even trying to crawl back across your line, you are extremely vulnerable to strong counterplays incl. wombo combos.

Originally posted by kscannon

With the changes, the balance of the champs feel way off too. I know games depend on what is selected but when the majority of one team is dealing a reduced damage and renektan can get one item and tank and kill the majority of a team with a 120% buff to healing and it taking multiple items to deal with and at that point the games over or a rangar with bushes on both side making the center not a safe spot for any back line. The balancing % is making some champs gods and others literal dirt.

Originally posted by WitheringAurora

I feel like a massive issue with the hexgates is the fact it gives the winner a major advantage. Before you had to carefully fight, and strategically take out the enemy team to take down the first turret if you were behind. Now they can just sit under tower and wait until their carry gets back. A lot harder with tanks now too.

Originally posted by raphelmadeira

Hello, in the tests did you guys verify the possibility of the inhibitor tower also blocking the passage falling on the opposite side of the first tower?

Originally posted by Masalar

They've said part of what hexgates are solving is some champs (such as assassins) needing flanking opportunities to be powerful. By giving them said opportunities they can then take out some of the percent buffs they're receiving. Whether it's overall a better solution remains to be seen.

Originally posted by Masalar

Yeah, while I understand the intent, losing one fight at like 15 minutes at the opponent's base and them having time to run all the way back and take your nexus feels real bad.

Originally posted by FruitfulRogue

I don't know, it just doesn't feel well thought out.

If you're behind, and somehow manage to ace the enemy team while they're at or around your inhibitor. By the time you get to their first tier turret with a wave, they've respawned and hexgated to it already.

So the progress you've made in regards to objectives is close to null. In the past you would have at least gotten some damage onto the enemies first tier turret whilst they run back.

It makes comebacks feel nigh impossible, and makes games feel dreadful to play. I really think the balance team struggle with understanding games should be fun, and not just about a theoretical balance.