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A follow up from the previous post yesterday


Riot Phlox Tweeted the upcoming changes for patch 11.20

11.20 Full Patch Preview!

We cut Senna and LDR from this patch after looking deeper into their data. Reminder - Worlds patch was 11.19, last patch.



Imgur (image) version: https://imgur.com/a/4zhPRgh



>>> Systems Nerfs <<<

Smite Healing

  • Max Health Healing: 15% >>> 10%

Jungle Camps

  • Krug/Gromp Base AD: 78 >>> 74


>>> Systems Buffs <<<

Imperial Mandate

  • Initial Hit Damage: 36-60 >>> 45-70

  • Bugfix: Properly attributes mark damage/kill credit to whoever hits the mark



>>> Nerfs <<<

Taliyah (Jungle)

  • Subsequent Hit Monster Damage: 80% >>> 75%

Amumu

Q

  • Damage: 70/100/130/160/190 >>> 70/95/120/145/170

  • Mana Cost: 30/35/40/45/50 >>> 70


Singed

E

  • Damage: 50/65/80/95/110 (+75% AP) >>> 50/60/70/80/90 (+60% AP)

Jarvan IV

P

  • Damage: 10% current HP >>> 8% current HP

Irelia

P

  • AD Ratio: 30% >>> 20%

Shen

P

  • Shield: 60-111 >>> 50-101


>>> Buffs <<<

Darius

W

  • Cooldown: 7/6.5/6/5.5/5 >>> 5 at all ranks

Elise

Base stats

  • Base Health: 534 >>> 555

  • Armor/lvl: 3.35 >>> 4


Hecarim

W

  • Cooldown: 22/21/20/19/18 >>> 18 at all ranks

  • Non-champ Heal Cap: 90/120/150/180/210 >>> 120/150/180/210/240


Udyr

R

  • Cone Damage: 50/95/140/185/230/275 >>> 60/110/160/210/260/310
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about 3 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by ProEngineer3000

Thank god they pulled back on buffing Senna.

Aren't those Darius and Udyr buffs pretty good? I think Udyr's is a revert of a previous nerf tho, but yeah.

FWIW the Senna buffs were pretty much entirely for alternate builds: AP ratios, Lethality ratios, and so on.

Senna's in a weird spot right now where the most popular build (Kraken AS) is demonstrably worse than Sunderer or Eclipse builds.

I'm not certain if this is because players mistakenly believe the only good way to play Senna is Kraken or if they'd really just rather play an attack speed build even though it's worse.

So ultimately it feels like Riot is trying to push build diversity. Eclipse isn't definitively better than Sunderer, so it's sort of an OK place to buff. The AP ratio changes just make the idea of getting an Ardent Censer and related items to push the healing angle a bigger possibility.

Anyways, yeah, not sure what the solution (or, personally, the problem) is.

about 3 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by ProgressiveCannibal

By what terms is the Kraken build worse than Sunderer or Eclipse? And you don't think Eclipse is better than Sunderer generally?

Last I checked the first item win rate is very clearly better for non-Kraken in both roles though I haven’t looked in a bit.