[2019] Reminder: one of the biggest lies about franchising was the org's stating they could hire more upcoming NA talent because they were in no danger of losing their spot.

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Boy did that turn out to be a utter lie. There were already people saying franchising would promote the opposite behavior. Teams could hire players to garner attention to earn money. Popular pro's and household names that would gain them fans, money and attention.

Lets be clear here that non of the organisations (maybe Cloud9 is an exception) actually did actively try to use their spot to nurture talent actively. Now we go into a new season were there are no rookies and all the attention is again focused on imports.

When will it be realized that the largest push for these players to come over is money. Even Broxah was getting replaced by Fnatic and Team Liquid was probably his safest option to return to the highest level, but Broxah is by no means an insane jungler. Youngbuck just created a great system he could flourish in, but even in their wins Youngbuck tried to sometimes replace him with a new rookie under the banner over "a 10 man roster".

I am mostly an LEC fan, but I also watch LCS sometimes, but what is the point of it? It feels like LCS is just a popular live stream event with some of your old favorite names gathered in one place. Its more of a kinds show then a competition it feels like.

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about 5 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

So, you might be right. But at least include some data with your post. What percentage of players are imports each year? Or even just 2017 vs 2020? You probably need a special flag for converted locals like Amazing and Jensen and such. But you can't just be like "YOU LIED TO US" and not even spend the effort to see if you're right.

about 5 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by Riven2main

Well I have seen the scene over the years and it has gotten worse. I could make a list (really dedicated fan will probably make one), but you probably don't need one to know that things have not gone is promised they would.

The NA scene got worse? Are we forgetting MSI? Are we forgetting the first Worlds top 4 since 2011? What, NA fails to get out of groups one year (not the first time) and we forget the past 12 months?

about 5 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by Sarius1997

Ok, let me just try to compare. Data points are the summer playoff rosters 2017 vs. 2019. I'll just try to bring up the data without further comment, as I'm kind of neutral on the whole "NA imports too much" topic. I'll list the imports by teams, and then summarize in the end. Also I'll show the "import-percentage" of each team. Source is lol.gamepedia.com.

Season 2017

C9 2017: Ray, Impact, Jensen. Ray and Impact shared toplane. (3 of 6 players were imports)

CLG 2017: Huhi (1 of 6 players imported)

EF 2017: Looper, Froggen, Gate. Gate was counted as NA resident (2/3 in 9 were imported)

Flyquest 2017: No Imports. 5 Players

Immortals 2017: Flame, Xmithie, CodySun, Olleh, Dodo, Unnamed Italian Player. Dodo, CodySun and Xmithie were NA residents. (3/6 in 7 players were imported)

Phoenix 1: Inori, Ryu, Pirean, Arrow. Inori was an NA resident. (3/4 in 10 were imported)

Dignitas: Ssumday, Chaser, Shrimp, Keane. Keane was an NA resident. (3/4 in 8 were imported).

Team EnvyUs: Seraph, Lira, Pirean, Nisqy. Seraph was an NA resident. (3/4 in 6 were imported)

Team Liquid: Reignover, Inori, Michey, Piglet, Konkwon. Inori and Konkwon were NA residents. (3/5 in 10 were imported).

Overall Season 2017: 21/30 in 67 players were imported. This gets us to an "import-percentage" of 31.3 % just counting non-NA residents. And an 44.7 % when also counting "not-NA nationals".

Season 2019

100 Thieves: Ssumday, Amazing, Ryu, Bang. Amazing was an NA resident. (3/4 of 7 were imported)

C9: Svenskeren, Nisqy. (2 in 8 were imported)

Clutch: Huni, Lira, CodySun. CodySun was an NA resident. (2/3 in 5 were imported)

CLG: Ruin, PoE, Biofrost. Biofrost was an NA resident. (2/3 in 5 were imported).

EF: Rush, Panda, Fenix, Lost. Panda was an NA resident (3/4 in 10 were imported)

FQ: V1per, Santorin, Wadid. V1per and Santorin were NA residents (1/3 in 6 were imported).

Golden Guardians: Froggen, FBI, Olleh, Huhi. Huhi was an NA resident. (3/4 in 7 were imported).

Optic Gaming: Crown, Scarlet, Arrow. (3 in 6 were imported).

Team Liquid: XMithie, Jensen, CoreJJ. Jensen and Xmithie were NA residents. (1/3 in 5 were imported).

TSM: BrokenBlade, Spica, Bjergsen, Zven. Spica and Bjergsen were NA residents. (2/4 in 7 were imported).

Overall Season 2019: 22/33 in 66 players were imported. This gets us to 33.3 % just counting non-Na residents. And an 50% value, counting "not-NA nationals".

So, as a final result, the import percentage rose slightly from 2017 to 2019, but not by much. 1 in 6 players in the League are "Naturalized" imports, that have gained NA residency.

Thank you for this, this is great work.

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