[2020] Quick LoL Thoughts: Game-Ruining Behavior - League of Legends

Originally posted by PankoKing

It’s not about people who are genuinely trying and having a bad game or series of games even. Sometimes someone gets absolutely crushed in lane and dies over and over again. That’s very different to a player deciding the game’s over and then spending their time trolling others instead of trying to win.

A lot of people tend to have trouble with this. Most people are quick to jump the gun for anyone going 0/1/0 that they're trolling (I've seen it on stream a lot too)

Streamers often get targeted for this sort of trolling due to their higher profile. It’s not an issue unique to streamers, though.

Though this honestly seems like they're trying to move past the conversation about how streamers have a part in this issue.

Short Term - Champ Select Reporting and Muting

Well finally this should hopefully help out people stuck in champ select. Though I worry it'll be super abused and cause people to never try new stuff.

Originally posted by penguin-cat

It would feel so incredibly shitty to be banned for 14 days because you started off having a bad game which snowballed into you dying 12 times because you were dove under tower every minute.

Be careful please!

Originally posted by IIHURRlCANEII

I think one thing that could help is more "medium length" bans.

Why does the punishment system go from warning/chat restriction to 14 day ban? There should be medium length bans like 3 or 7 days that are used liberally. If you accidentally ban someone for 3 days then atleast it's of shorter length.

People don't care about chat restrictions and 14 day bans are actually super hard to get usually (for a good reason). Players not being able to play league because of their behavior is sometimes the best deterannt.

Edit: /u/purpleadlib pointed out a ranked ban would be a less severe type of medium ban, and I like that idea as well.

There needs to be at least something between chat restriction and 14 day ban that is used heavily.

Originally posted by ReganDryke

Honestly, I think the improved report feedback is probably the most important change. Finally getting visibility on the impact of your reports is huge for the perception that the system actually do its job.

Originally posted by S0fourworlds-readyt

Abused how? Shouldn’t it only punish people that announce they‘ll troll ( and seriously, there are a lot of them ) in Champ select instead of those that pick unusual champs?

Originally posted by MasteaM8

I just hope this lasts longer than 1 week and that they dont give up

Originally posted by SlurpTurnsMeGreen

Will there be extra measures taken to not false flag Janna players as afks?

Originally posted by Spideraxe30

Hey Meddler do you have an ETA patch on when champ select reporting is going live

Originally posted by Mytias14

Quick mention: Chat restriction as a form of punishment is extremely counter productive.

Originally posted by Resident_Wing

Is it?

If someone says "I am mid I don't give a f**k" and you report, what will it do? As far as I can tell the only stuff that gets punished right now is whatever is on Riot's "no no words" list.

Originally posted by Spideraxe30

Out of curiosity, did you guys start prioritizing player behavior changes before Voyboy's video, since Brightmoon noted that that was one of the big trends that really ruined the ranked experience for players earlier this season

Originally posted by S0fourworlds-readyt

Nice to hear, I wouldn’t enjoy getting banned just for playing stuff that might not be meta at that given time. But as long as there are options like asking the support to revert a ban or so ( is that how it works? ), I wouldn’t mind getting falsely banned once or twice if that leads to less inting long term.

Originally posted by JA_JA_SCHNITZEL

If they're going to be more aggressive with bans, I think they'll need to be way more lenient on pre-30 games. Can easily see a new player having a rough game and getting banned incorrectly. And new players will just leave the game after a ban like that - would be awful for player retention.

Originally posted by PatentMTG

Have you guys considered hiring/consulting with psychologists on player behavior? I'm sure you could probably find some in academia that would be interested in helping you look at the issue from a different perspective. Just an idea.

I would really like you to consider short term/temporary bans from things like just ranked queues. Say someone is "auto detected" by a new system instead of jumping to a multi-day ban immediately, issue some kind of warning message and disable their ability to Queue into Summoner's Rift for a day then next maybe 3 days. It would be good if you included in these ban messages more than just how naughty these players are being.

Including in these messages something like statistics on players that keep positive attitude increasing rank and winning more games (because they are out there many of us have seen them). Encouragement to reform could also be effective is what I am saying.

Thank you very much for addressing this directly, just knowing you are working on this is better than nothing. I think the community will be forgiving as long as you are trying to fix the problem even if there are mistakes made while getting to the most balanced place possible in this respect.

Originally posted by ValCip

Meddler what do you think of Yorick's current state?

Originally posted by Resident_Wing

You guys penalize on what the system can detect given whatever you've given it. The problem is once people see it and realize what it's looking for it's EXTREMELY easy to play around it. One thing I've seen more and more of nowadays is people AFKing in base, walking out for a min or two to attack/damage minions or champs, then going back. And they do this for 10, 15 + mins and don't get a "leaver" status for it. Seems like most anything that an automated system detects can be learned and avoided - which is why so much less hard flaming exists now and people instead soft int, troll, grief, etc.

Originally posted by IIHURRlCANEII

After the client stuff I'm sure you know that many people will be skeptical until it's 6 months from now and you delivered on both of those points.

Hopefully it goes better this time.

Originally posted by ParMonty

How many times in the last few years have Riot employees been trying to “win back trust” lmao

Originally posted by anghellous

Makes you think about how long it would've taken for us to get a proper response from them had Voyboy not made his initial video.

Originally posted by palomani

Can you stop communicating and actually ship improvements ?

Originally posted by egzfakitty

One comms person to another - care to explain to this sub that public pressure and repeated outcries help move the needle?

It's mind blowing to me how often you see posts on this sub asking for an end to "whining" posts that are the only effective way this community has to push for change.

Originally posted by egzfakitty

Financial institutions catering to private funds, previously for high-ish profile political figures (mid-level on the Warren for Senate team).

My post history is not indicative of my real life personality :⁾

This sub would be blown away how effective groups like the Hedge Clippers are at affecting change through what is, in essence, the real-world version of complain-posting.