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In this video Jonathan says about "improving" event passes (04:20):"Last year one of the main things we heard about event passes is it felt like you need to play too much to get all the things u wanted. It also felt bad to use tokens to buy things like ward skins or emotes if you are ultimately trying to get higher tier rewards. We belive that getting ALL of the rewards in event pass shouldn't require that you sign your life away for 30 days"

But that's exactly how it is right now. You need to sing your life away for 30 days if u want let's say:

-Prestige skin 2000 tokens

-An tft egg 600 tokens

-Chroma 300 tokens

-Border + icon 250 tokens

-Orb 200 tokens

-Icon 50 tokens

-Emote 40 tokens

That gives us 3440 tokens to get. You get 1400 from missions. That means you need to get 2040 tokens by grinding. Divide that by 30 days and you get = 68 tokens per day to get those things that i pointed out. Also not everyone can play every day for 30 days. With token nerfs in worse case scenario you would need to lose 14 games of SR or win 7 everyday. It still feels bad to use tokens to buy things like chromas, wards etc if you want the prestige skin. And in the video he specifically says getting ALL things shouldn't require to sign your life away, and i've just pointed out couple of thngs that are in event store. Annoucing changes to token rates through twitter is also very bad. I bought pass not knowing that. And i follow LoL social-medias, not rioters social-medias. Also constant server problems, clash crashing every time it's on doesn't help to grind tokens.

Another small thing that i have an issue with is gamemodes. They said that they will bring back memorable experiences for all players through gamemodes. How is another one for all memorable? For this event they could have easily bring back that dark star Thresh gamemode. Gamemodes like odyssey or star guardian. Those events were memorable.

Galaxies event just feels bad.

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almost 5 years ago - /u/Ken_Adams_NSA - Direct link

Originally posted by twinters01

The issue with that is that content in league is very much segmented by what champs or role someone plays. If someone has literally NO use for the rest of the pass, it doesn't make sense for them to be forced to go through all of the rewards that they won't use to get the one thing they want. This token system gives way more flexibility.

I don't think very many people often WANT the amount of things OP listed from a single pass.

To confirm this line of thinking, yes - agency is very important to our pass system for League because of how thinly sliced some content can be (e.g. - a chroma for a skin for a champ is ultimately addressing a relatively small audience, and ensuring you have the ability to choose is important). Naturally, when you have to make a choice, that implies giving something else up, and if you want to choose something that is intended to be difficult to get (e.g. - Prestige), then you have to forego a lot of other things until you get there. We introduced Milestone Missions for exactly this reason: to make you feel rewarded along the way to your journey, but it still isn't good enough (for a variety of reasons).

The good news is, we think we have a solve for this, and the improvements to the experience that Jon (Bellissimoh) was referring to in the State of Skins video are under development right now. We'll be talking more about what that looks like soon, and will also have an update about what the near / mid-term looks like for events sooner.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Ken_Adams_NSA - Direct link

Originally posted by PeeledPancake

Next event don't release the Beta for a new game so I don't lose all my friends trying to slug through for the points I need please XD lol

I also can't stop playing VALORANT, so I know your feels!

almost 5 years ago - /u/Ken_Adams_NSA - Direct link

Originally posted by lolKhamul

Personally, i think the pass mechanics are ok'ish. Not perfect but not totally bad. What frustrates me and some people i know is is that fact that as soon as you want a top tier reward like the prestige points or the prestige skin, there is pretty much no way to get more than 1 chroma or other smaller rewards except signing your life away. Given that i have a job and cant and dont want to sign my life away, it feels like i just bought the prestige skin for the PassRP but additionally had to grind a f**kton to get it. And that should not the point of a pass.

I do play a decent amount and i am just hitting the 2200 this time around. Jonathan directly acknowledges that issue in the video yet this pass with less tokens earned per game is a step in the other direction.

tbh i actually would not even mind even paying a little more for the pass (like 1850 instead of the 1350) if the value is too good from Riots perspective but it honestly feels bad to pass up all those cool chromas because you want a top tier reward.

Totally understand the feedback. I think you'll be happy about the direction we're heading in.