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almost 5 years ago - /u/Rovient - Direct link

Liandry's burns for a few seconds after the poison ends and the elder burns for a few seconds beyond that! Brutal.

I mean, Teemo also has Infernal Soul, at least 2 infernal dragons, Baron buff AND elder. Jinx should certainly die to a shroom at this point.

What I don't get is why she doesn't have a life steal item? You need that against Teemo, otherwise you'll get chunked out and have to back after every single shroom.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Rovient - Direct link

Originally posted by Qwertdd

Why doesn't she have lifesteal?

Why is every bullshit thing in this game the ADCs fault?

I mean, you choose what to build when that can make a difference.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Rovient - Direct link

Originally posted by Qwertdd

There was nothing to autoattack for her to lifesteal. Plus, Teemo has a Morellonomicon, which f**ks her healing anyway.

Jinx should certainly die to a shroom at this point

No. No champion "should" die to a single f**king ability. What the hell kind of game is that?

You choose what to build when that can make a difference.

Do you, as an ADC? The way I see it, Jinx already has a defensive item, PD, but her needing PD to be up to not die to a single ability is a joke. She already has a QSS, but Mercurial Scimitar only gives +5 magic resistance when the item's completed anyway, and the QSS/Merc active would do nothing for her here. If she went for the MR item earlier, she'd do no damage because ADC damage without going directly for full damage items is godawful. The mistake in the build I see is that Jinx went for 100 percent crit. Maw of Malmortius is off the table because she already has PD. So Jinx should have...gone Merc Treads, which would sacrifice the most gold-efficient source of attack speed on a champion that only auto attacks (and probably still not have saved her)? f**king Wit's End? A completely normal, full ADC build would die in this scenario. The only difference between Jinx's build and a normal ADC defensive build is that Jinx has -5 MR.

Yes, when the enemy team has literally every possible epic neutral buff and jinx has nothing to life steal from, she should die here. Not really sure why Reddit is having a tough time with this one. I'm pretty sure naut could have saved her with Locket (if it was off of cooldown), buy yet no one's mentioned that yet. I mean, he had about 6 seconds in which to react before she died...

almost 5 years ago - /u/Rovient - Direct link

Originally posted by chr1spe

Clearly you have a drastically different view of the game than the majority of your playerbase. I'm sure if you polled the playerbase the majority by far would say 1 shroom from a not super fed teemo should NEVER EVER kill a full health champ who isn't super absurdly under farmed or leveled.

The fact that you think this is what should happen is actually extremely disturbing and disheartening for the future of the game for me.

He has all the buffs too... I mean...

almost 5 years ago - /u/Rovient - Direct link

Originally posted by chr1spe

Yes, and that is what I mean by "NEVER EVER". A lot of players don't see this as balanced or a good gameplay change. If you want Elder to just end the game then either have it literally just end the game or have it instantly execute all enemies on any damage or something dumb like that. Clearly you think having buff should auto-win the game so why beat around the bush. I don't think the majority of the playerbase feels buffs should auto-win the game though.

He doesn't just have elder. He has infernal soul, at least 2 infernal buffs, Liandry's (which significantly increases the duration of the elder burn and the overall damage of his DOTs against her), lots of other AP items AND elder.

It's not like this is just elder buff, but it certainly did some decent damage to jinx, too.

I promise I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I just see a lot of factors contrubuting to this slow 1 shot.