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over 4 years ago - /u/Ovedius - Direct link

Originally posted by Hauzenstein

The spectrum of skill and well-roundedness can be difficult to tackle. I honestly think both CG and C9 have less weaknesses than TL in the sense that they're more well-rounded, but they're just not as good player-wise. You beat CG and C9 by simply being better than them instead of devising some specific strategy targetting their team.

A team like RNG is the perfect example. No one's going to argue they aren't good, but there are definitely gaping holes in how they play the game which can be exploited (over-reliance on bot lane, sacking solo laners). And when good teams have these, it sparks a lot of discussion, because they're expected to do well but you can clearly see where it can go wrong.

Great response. Nice one!

over 4 years ago - /u/Ovedius - Direct link

Originally posted by CyberliskLOL

Licorice was holding his own against TheShy at MSI? And TheShy wasn't having a great tournament?

Excuse me, but after these statements it's pretty tough to take the rest of the video seriously.

Just in case it's not clear enough: Neither was C9 at MSI (in fact, they haven't even one a split for many years now), nor was TheShy having a bad tournament at MSI. You could maybe argue that he had an off-series against TL in the Semis, but he absolutely crushed it during Group Stage.

Was definitely a mistake on my end. I remembered Licorice at world's last year and thought he had a great tournament overall, I then confused it with MSI. I then remembered MSI where TheShy was having a bad tournament, especially considering the expectations on him, and ended up combining the points. The whole point though was to re-enforce that I think Licorice is a great top laner and can hold his own against some of the best in the world. I am surprised that this single comment would devalue the other 68 minutes of content but to each their own I suppose.