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Everybody saw the Gwen and Master Yi hotfix coming right after the patch note release. Its not the first time Master yi has been in this busted op situation after a change. People were calling the the changes highly questionable when the changes were posted in Twitter.

How come they totally ignore all this criticism, hailed their ego and shipped the changes anyway. Do they actually not see this coming?

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over 2 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by KnifeKittyy

Let me tell you guys a little secret.. “Balance teams” job is not to actually make every champ 50% w/r perfectly balanced..

It’s to shake up the meta. That is what “balance” actually is. They nerf and buff stuff even when they don’t need it. Just to shake up the meta.

This is also why we have huge updates.. like runes and item overhaul, dragon changes, why they let damage be so high for so long. The point is an ever changing game, with an ever changing meta. Not some “balanced” game where everything is in a balanced state and all champs are equally powerful.

I think there is a core component missing here. They also have the ability to affect overall game health in positive ways.

For example, how many people became AP Twitch mains once that build became viable? The balance wasn’t hit perfectly the first time, sure, but AP Twitch is practically a new champion and all it took was adding an AP ratio somewhere.

Master Yi has, for his entire lifetime, been a low-MMR stomper. So he has to be garbage for everyone above platinum and simultaneously too good for anyone below gold. So what do you do? Well, a really good option is to keep adding skill-expressive ways to fight other than “I hit R and right clicked you.” Were the numbers right the first time? Certainly not. But League has been out for almost thirteen years. Him being OP for a couple days is a reasonable price for attempting to fix MMR skew.

over 2 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by WaiterK

I'm all for adding skill expression, but I can't imagine how yi can be in a state where he is playable in all elos without being overly broken due to his incredibly unhealthy amount of true damage and toxic gameplay unless you completely change a vast majority of his identity.

Damn man, Vayne is a balance nightmare am I right? She even turns invisible!

over 2 years ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by KaiserMakes

Stop acting like you dont know what he is talking about.

You guys f-ed up and should at least try to fix your mistakes.

Besides, a "bad champion only good in low MMR", is miles better than "hey we made this champion really broken for a while because we wanted to fix him, you guys wouldnt mind losing your LP to him or having to permaban him would you?"

His numbers should clearly be tuned downward. I just feel like this balance state existing for 0.1% of League’s lifetime is just not that big of a deal.