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i have edited a few things based on new information
it took years to make this item even though its litterally just copy and pasted black cleaver just to make this item significantly weaker in gold value for AP Bruisers who generally have lower base stats. Im going to discuss in reference to mordekaiser since this was the champion most stated by riot that this item was intended for.
First things, if you're aoe'ing multiple targets (like with mordekaiser's passive which you cant control) the MR shred will only apply to one target, and probably not the one youre focusing, closest too, or auto attacking. This was confirmed intended by a Rioter at some point to discourage AoE mages. How is that possibly not intentionally useless? if a random enemy walks into your aoe, the stacks on the champion youre fighting can litterally just disappear and become unable to affect that champion. this is apparantly a bug, im not sure that entirely fixes the value of this item, but i guess it makes it not completely waste of an item, still waaay under gold efficient
I get you dont want ranged aoe mages using this as offensive item, though i cant imagine theyd want to with how terrible it is, because the stats are outright garbage -void staff is 30 more AP +10% more permanent AOE pen for only 350hp . Why are the stats just straight up inferior to black cleaver when ad bruisers have much stronger baseline stats than AP champions?
Cleaver -- Bloodletters (100g cheaper)
Adjusted these values because apparantly some websites have conflicting information
40ad ---- 60ap (+150g)
400hp -- 350hp (-130g)
20 cdr -- 15 cdr (-250g)
6% ----- 5% shred per stack (slower)
20ms ---0 move speed (-~240g)
roughly a net of 370g value less on bloodletters
For the record, this is the same statline as rylais and rocket belt at 2600 gold both which are better offensive/defensive items than this because they offer mobility which equates to both. You wouldnt buy this over liandrys or even riftmaker(which is ridiculous as it is already inherently a garbage item).Considering their most common AP users base stats are generally lower than AD champions the flat health is less powerful on the average AP champion on top of it being lower for no apparent reason.
Stats: Darius == Mordekaiser
652–2590hp == 645–2413hp
39–127.4arm == 37–108.4armor
so what is this item for? its only purpose is if you have 5AP comp you can still do damage if you only 1v1 i guess? If you buy this after liandry/rift core you're going to get 1shot by any adc/assassin lategame without any meaningful defensive stats.
Either significantly buff the stats on this item to be an equivalent purchase as black cleaver, or add defense like armor, or give significantly better utility. I think an interesting choice since the statline is similar, is to give it the rocketbelt active without the dmg since AP bruisers generally want that item but cant effectively fit it into most builds. To be honest id rather just have AP eclipse or access to AP items that are mana locked.
Morde might be strong in low elo right now, and honestly this is probably exclusively because of liandrys, but theres no reason items should just be inherently crap across the board.
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