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UPDATE: Riot Games are officially not going to be giving Rakan and Xayah a joint recall on skins.

Last time this happened, we we promised that Rakan - Xayah would get a special joint recall next time.

Arcana skins got massive backlash and we were told that two weeks wasn’t enough time to make a recall. That is understandable. Decisions are made, the community doesn’t like it, take the feedback and improve next time.

They had almost a year now. What was the reason (not calling it an excuse) for not giving one to us?

It’s sad that they don’t seem to care about us and what we want just because we aren’t as popular as Ekko because his Firelight skin was recalled, worked on and released after the backlash it got for bland VFX and lazy work.

This sets up a dangerous precedent. Riot can possibly never give Rakan and Xayah joint recalls for epic skins and that downgrades the value of the skin and doesn’t justify the price because 4 have special recalls for the same price.

Rakan - Xayah were created as lovers to be a duo bot lane. It’s the very essence of these champions. If they don’t get played together often, balancing them to be stronger together is better than cutting corners on skins. Clearly the focus has been on Xayah, Xayah, Xayah for the past few years.

What about Rakan? He’s only getting a buff because of this skin. Really sad honestly ;-;

EDIT: To those saying the recall has no value, it’s literally their passive. When one begins channelling, the other can join into the recall at any point.

They almost always recall together in game and a joint recall is a big part of that.

EDIT 2: Joint recalls for Rakan and Xayah are officially cancelled.

We got the feedback threads for the new Rakan & Xayah skins and Riot DW Platypus says -

“I want to address a piece of feedback that we also received during the Arcana skins release regarding Duo Recalls, which is starting to be brought up again now. The Skins Team Production Leadership has analyzed both the feedback and data we get from our live servers, and they have found that the pick rate for Xayah and Rakan to be in the same team is fairly low, as well as them both using the same skinline within the same game is almost accidental (essentially limited to a very small sub-set of duo players). Due to that, the Skins Team Production Leadership has agreed that unique Duo Recalls within a specific skinline is a feature that we will not be carrying over to future Xayah and Rakan skins.”

It’s sad. This is the end of an era. Vote with your wallets.

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about 1 year ago - /u/RiotBrightmoon - Direct link

Jumping in to help give some more context. Also jumping in because I go Mega Gnar when folks say the skins team is lazy (they aren't) or that they don't care (they do) which I see coming up in this thread. When we created Xayah and Rakan (I was part of the team) we wanted to try a lot of new things - a shared recall animation being one of them. It took a lot of work, blending animations from two champs that could come together at any point during either recall. We also didn't really know if players would care or use it that much, but because of their theme it was worth it to try something new. Many years later it's clear that only a very small fraction of players use the joint recall with the same skin when Xayah and Rakan are on the same team, so we default to the base shared animation. When we look at how long it takes to add this special animation for how little use it gets, we are forced with a hard trade off. Continue doing it, or put the effort into something that will be more meaningful for more players? We try not to make those trade-offs because it always sucks for some group of players. But we do have to make them sometimes because we have limited time and resources to do everything.

We can do better sharing the trade-offs with you all (like we did recently on the less new champs to work on more new game modes) but we're not making them because we're lazy and don't care - and I really don't want the team to stop taking chances on things like a shared recall because they're worried it will set a precedent that will forever bind them.

But also - keep telling us what trade-offs are okay with you and which aren't. That does help us get the info we need beyond statistics and we are listening, even if the end decision is one you don't like I hope you will understand the reasoning.