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Buffs: Maokai, Kayn, Warwick, Viktor, Kog'maw, Lulu, Master Yi (rageblade bugfix)

Nerfs: Pyke, Garen, Shaco


9.21 Patch Preview - Stabilizing the game for end of ranked season + follow up on a few mini-reworks from last patch.

source: https://twitter.com/MarkYetter/status/1182772007198281728

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over 4 years ago - /u/RiotKingCobra - Direct link

Originally posted by Huzzl3

That is ... wow

Makes me wonder how they didn't realize for the previous 3 years (since patch 6.9) that Jax ult passive applied every other hit with rageblade, if it was never intended to work that way. I'm actually kind of sad about that. Spear getting changed soon, conqueror getting changed, Jax already has trouble 1v1ing late game Shen or Poppy, and then rageblade passive won't even do anything to his ult.

/u/Riotkingcobra I guess it's not up to you to decide this, but if Yi's passive gets reworded so he can use rageblade, would it be possible the same gets done for Jax? Rageblade may not be an item Jax builds every single game, but in some games it's really valuable and for the last 3 years it has worked with his ult passive.

Seeing how he's pretty much the original hybrid, 1v1 focused auto attacker and how he'll likely take some hits in pre season (spear / conqueror), would it be possible to reconsider rageblade for Jax? Feels really bad having an item work one way for 3 years and then stop, while all other users (Vayne, Kai'sa, Varus, now also Yi again etc.) can keep using it?

That is exactly what we are doing. :) We are going to be restoring the functionality to how players expect it to work so Jax will also proc his ultimate passive every other hit.

over 4 years ago - /u/RiotKingCobra - Direct link

Originally posted by Xipotec

Well if that's the intention, you still didn't fix that. It's aa-ult three times, then he still needs a intermitent double auto to proc the aa-ult again.

That is how his passive works with the nerfed rageblade, same as Vayne.

over 4 years ago - /u/RiotKingCobra - Direct link

Originally posted by Caenen_

Vayne's W stacks and expunge trigger on-hit though, unlike Yi, Neeko, Jax and Xin's "every X hits" effects. It's just that for Jax, Yi and Neeko, their stack counters cannot 'overcap', unlike Xin (empowered hit cannot be expended by Phantom Hit, but it overcaps so it still gets the pattern right).

Edit: Oh, you meant 'this is how it works with Vayne, too' as of the particular pattern (no longer every 2nd attack with nerfed Rageblade, now 4 every 9 attacks). Sorry for the misunderstanding. Am I right though that you're fixing it individually per-champion by allowing their stack counters to overcap? Or are you changing the resulting effects to on-hit?

I'm not the one making the specific changes, but I believe the solve is closer to the latter thing you said.