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i'm a dum dum who can't understand graphs, is the surge for low play rate champs like kindred really that high?
i'm a dum dum who can't understand graphs, is the surge for low play rate champs like kindred really that high?
Yeah, these are hard to follow the exact details on, especially without access to the tools directly unfortunately. In Kindred's case the number of people playing them has increased to 250% of previous values and the number of games per person is around 170% of previous values. A very substantial jump in overall engagement with them as a result.
tfw only the TFT news mattered to me
Thank god, galaxies kind of sucks. lol
What is it you don't like about Galaxies?
I hope this means we’ll see higher quality skins for champs that haven’t gotten one in a while, but I’m also worried if play rate goes down they’ll just go back to not caring.
Side note, thank god galaxies is ending.
We're targeting good skins for a range of champs who've gone a long time without one this year. Some of those are out already, a number more are still to come in the second half of the year. We'll then do a review of some sort at the end of the year, talk with you folks about where we think we caught some champs up, what we missed etc.
Eh maybe I'm too rude, thanks for asking.
The synergies seem a bit one note but that could be me. Their not all that interesting (like celestials or astros) and even an interesting one like star guardians, rebels or mech falls prey to big flaws like items (star guardians), kind of eh synergy between units (rebels). A synergy that also feels awkward battle cast, the units are really funky for this one.
Some patches the same comps also go top 4 with the same units in play like last patch with jarvan and jhin.
Got it, thanks for the rundown. I think the Celestials call out especially is very accurate and would agree item dependence undercuts interesting play a bit for some other comps. Battlecast I think was an interesting test, with some parts that work well and some execution issues.
With you on balance having had some rough periods with comps being narrow in 10.13 and 10.14 in particular.
100% agree, I came off as really dickish without giving a reason why I don't like galaxies. My apologies.
Thanks folks. I'm not too bothered regardless, but I appreciate the reflection and call out!
Are these pick rates for SR or NB or both?
SR, NB and ARAM
The graph isn't super clear, but you see how every line has a narrow end and a bulbous end? The narrow end is either "breadth/depth on the last patch" or "breadth/depth on average over the last [n] patches." It isn't clear from Meddler's post which of those it was, but it doesn't really matter. The bulbous end is "breadth/depth on 10.15." Note how all but two of the champion lines went up, and to the right? That indicates an increase in both breadth and depth.
The Kindred line says that prior to 10.15, Kindred was a below-median champion in terms of play rate by either metric. They saw approximately 55% of the median play rate of a champion (breadth), and the people who played Kindred would play them about 90% as often as any other champion (depth). Keep in mind, that's relative to other champions. The graph is not claiming that Kindred players pick her in 90% of their games, or that she's in 55% of games. It's all relative to the median breadth/depth statistics of League champions (and, they use median so outliers like Yasuo and Thresh don't warp it).
On 10.15, Kindred's relative play rate effectively tripled (~55% -> ~175%) and of those people playing Kindred, Riot is seeing just over a 50% increase in relative dedication to the champion (~90% -> ~160%). Again, this is relative to other champions. So, yes, Kindred's increasing... everything means that other champions are being picked less by necessity, and therefore we're not literally seeing 3x the Kindred play as on a previous patch, but it's still a very significant increase.
Funny enough, they're seeing MORE Yasuo games than usual, but those players are each playing fewer games. That's what the "down, to the right" line means.
Lillia is a dot because there was no previous statistic to map a trend from.
Does that make sense?
Whats interesting about the Yasuo change, is that historically Yasuo players play nothing but Yasuo, which is why his depth pre spirit blossom event started so high. Almost nothing gets Yasuo mains to stop playing Yasuo, but this event lowering his depth but increasing his breadth means way more people are playing him, but mains are playing him less, which would imply that the spirit bonds system got Yasuo players to actually play other champs. Gotta get that favor
Hey Meddler!
I dont know if this is the right place to ask, but is there any information about a new Champion Roadmap Post coming?
Current plan is that the next roadmap will be sometime after the Marksman releases
Marksmen
Is this intentionally plural?
no, edited
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That's probably just daftness on my part. I wrote ARAM automatically, I'll check with the team, it's probably not included though given as you say there's little agency and it would just dilute differences
Is there a reason Nautilus was chosen to receive the worst and cheapest skin of the year?
Conqueror skins go through a separate assessment process to regular skins. Naut's still eligible for a regular skin based off how long it's been since his last one as a result.
There was a "leak" about an upcoming Legendary skin for Camille. Is this at least close to be true or no?
Sorry, but we don't want to comment on leaks, whether real or fake. In both cases it just encourages behavior that undercuts fun surprises for those players who like those (either because they know what's coming or they get false hopes built up).
Sorry for invading this reply but does Zac have a future on TFT?
I asked a rioter in a TFT thread back in the first TFT version if Zac was gonna be added to TFT and he said he would like Zac to be added but 3 Sets later and we are still here with no Zac :(
I'm confident we'll eventually get every LoL champ into a TFT set. Some will take longer than others though if they don't line up smoothly with the set themes we're going for and/or what the traits within those themes need. Zac's going to be tougher than many to work in, though I'm confident we'll get to him at some point. Apologies for lack of any specifics there.