if you already own SG udyr you have to pay 5 RP for the new icons??
like what the hell you should just get them for free or at least it should be BE
did they check all accounts that own the skin and there were enough people that have less than 20 rp so they expect to actually get a considerable amount of money out of that or what
External link →We discussed this extensively about this and had only some path forward.
1) Release no new icons - However, old icons are now out of date and also color no longer made sense.
2) Release new icons but make them available to everyone through BE - But SG Udyr Icons might lose the prestige of being attached to an Ultimate skin
3) Replace old icon - but then we will need to pull the old icons- people generally don't like having things taken away from them
4) After chatting with some folks as well as some udyr mains...we went with option 4. Old SG owners can keep their old icons with option of getting the new ones if they choose to, where new owners will be auto granted the new icons.
I’m not a SG udyr owner so just out of curiosity, is it not possible to grant the icons free to the already-owners and grant the icons to the new owners as well?
We need to pull vast amount of data and grant (aka manual time) from the team that is actually working on the system trying to fix the root problem, and delaying the future when we can do what we want. I think tbh the safest option is to not ship new icons at all, which is less risky when it comes to not angering anyone (can't miss what you don't have). However, I didn't feel great about it. Its safer but we are withholding something cool... Especially that portrait icon
Cool why rp. I have over 2mill on my boy dyr and I gotta say I absolutely refuse to be dimed for his updated icons
See number 2.
It isn't possible to do mixed BE/RP bundles. So we would need to make them available to everyone. Ultimate skins comes with Icons. Udyr would be the only one without Icons.
It's not like it's uncharted territory though. It's the same thing that happened with the Volibear rework, when everyone that already owned him got the Thousand-Pierced Bear skin for free.
Let's say you have to cut some branches in your back yard because a tree fell over that will take 1 hour with your manual saw but it will take you 3 hours to go find some chainsaw. However, you anticipate you will only need to do this once so you decide to just tough it out and manual it.
Then the next year it happened again. You are like meh just tough it out.
Then it happened again.
Do you go buy the chainsaw? Or tough it out again and hope it never happens.
Now, imagine if these three scenarios are not the same people but hired workers coming to a client.
First guy didn't wana anger the customer so he toughs it out instead of delaying 3 hour...same with second... same with third... the the fourth etc etc.
At what point do you go like oh wait I should have bought a chainsaw that would solve this in seconds. But who wana volunteer to be the one that didn't show up to go buy the chainsaw?
This is essentially tech debt >w< ppl who clean up the debt is thankless job... but its because of them we have nice tools.
2) Release new icons but make them available to everyone through BE - But SG Udyr Icons might lose the prestige of being attached to an Ultimate skin
This is simply not true. The shop already has the functionality to link purchases to skins though as seen with chromas. You could make the icons purchasable with BE in the shop and only available to people who own the skin.
If the icons are chromas then maybe and even then to sell chromas with essence is not efficient.
If that's the case, it's something easy to fix. If players currently own the SG Udyr skin, just set up a flag so that they get a mission of "play one game" and then are awarded the rewards after playing it. The infrastructure exists, it's what they use for pass missions. Rather than the flag being owning the pass, it'd be owning the skin
Discussed that...but the missions system is kinda unstable atm.
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