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imo asol has been gutted into a lackluster burst mage, if sol was a flashy type champ or oversexualized he would be at the top of riots priorities.
All of us otps want a revert and we keep getting ignored and taunted with a nerf.
Riot needs to acknowledge that turning an unique mage (asol,sylas) into a burst mage doenst fix any problems.
It just makes us realize how lazy the balance team is.

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over 4 years ago - /u/RiotKingCobra - Direct link

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Hi - I'm an A Sol main and also happen to be on the balance team. :)

Aurelion Sol is a pretty unique case of a champion. Before his mini-rework, Aurelion's 'depth' ( defined here: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/11/champ-popularity-mixing-math-art/) was low enough that his high WR (generally around 53-55%) was more likely fueled by people just trying him and dropping him, than one tricks maining him. In other words, he was just strong and people who were trying out were winning a lot...because he was actually a 55% WR champ. Post-rework the amount of people maining him as gone up a bit, enough so that those one tricks may be influencing his winrate a bit more than before. Regardless, per our balance guidelines (posted here: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/05/dev-champion-balance-framework/), Aurelion was OP and needed a love tap.

We generally do not approach balance with a philosophy that accounts for the amount of mains playing a champion when assessing what their strength is. If we balanced using this philosophy, we'd have to concede that Riven and Yasuo are actually underpowered and in need of big buffs. The reason being is that Riven and Yasuo are champions with high breadth (they're popular like you said) but also insanely high depth (how many games a player puts on a champ in a given time). The situation would, in reality, be the opposite of what you're saying. Everybody plays Riven/Yasuo and they also all main Riven/Yasuo - infact the ratio is so steep that they are the champs that should be sporting 55% WRs.

over 4 years ago - /u/RiotKingCobra - Direct link

Originally posted by Padulsky21

Hello! I’m just curious since you say you’re an ASol main, how do you feel about the mini rework? As in, do you still enjoy playing him as much as he is now than before the mini rework?

I noticed that a lot of the ASol playerbase is pretty split. Some still stick with playing him and learned how to work around the changes, then there’s others that just dropped him. He’s one of my favorite designs ever in league so no matter what I’ll still play him just because of that.

I personally enjoy the rework more because I feel that I have more agency in fights with the repeatable MS boosts from W. I also think he’s more fun because he requires a bit more active engagement (being mindful of repeated W presses to get more damage or more MS vs just toggling the old one). During development and even when the rework hit live, I’d find myself missing the toggle at times, but now I’m pretty sold, enough so that he’ll probably compete for my most played champ of the season w Cass. Oh, and I especially love how diverse his builds and rune options have become.