Originally posted by
alrightrb
I mean I just did, if you would actually consider the criticism maybe LEC and LCS would have good casting lol. I don't even blame the casters, it is clearly Riot's fault and Papa has even mentioned the difference between casting for a live studio and casting English LCK.
But there has to be a happy medium, and LCS and LEC do not meet that medium whatsoever. What more can I say other than what I said above and that the cast is not fun? As I said in another comment, LCK even makes the longest of pauses fun. LEC in the other hand doesn't even attempt to make them fun, it just rehashes talking points until chat is so bored that everyone is leaving so then they go to a break, and then come back and still need more time so again rehash boring points.
Why can't anyone have fun on the cast? It's supposed to be entertainment, but it feels like everyone forgot. LEC is supposed to be my home region yet I feel as connected to LEC as I feel to the DOTA 2 pro scene, a game I have barely played. LCK on the other hand, a region on the other side of the world's secondary English cast time and time again makes no mistakes even though Riot damaged production taking over from OGN and produces the best and most entertaining LoL casting around so I actually care about LCK even though it has nothing to do with my region.
So one of the things you said was specifically in regard to medic and myself. I do find a sense of irony in being told that I have no personality. Regardless, to me it just sounds like there is a style that you very much enjoy which is not quite what we do in the LEC. The LCK allows for more opportunity to have these 'casual chats' that you are a big fan of because the games are objectively slower. The LEC is not quite the same given that we, as a region, are almost as kill heavy as the LPL. So my initial point is that each region allows for certain things to happen.
My follow up to that is slow games do happen in Europe and when they do, you're definitely right in that we do much less 'casual chatting' than the LCK broadcast do. We find value in focusing a little more on player stories or narratives in those moments. However, that's not to say we don't engage in those kinds of conversations too, it very much depends on the context. Not too long ago, Trevor and I had a nice chat about his dog during a pause. The crowd enjoyed it and we had some fun. A perfect example of what you're looking for. But even then, this doesn't happen very often. That's usually because we refer to this when we feel we've exhausted all of our other potential discussion points.
The third and final thing is that the majority of our audience don't like it. The LEC caters to a much larger viewerbase with a much bigger crowd, and this type of casting has often been called distracting or uninteresting and often cringey. Perhaps that's due to our inability to have 'casual chats' but I'm not entirely bought into that, I just think that a lot of our viewers just care more about the game and the players, so that's what we focus on. Regardless, the important takeaway is that the audiences for the LEC and LCK are different. There is of course some cross over between the two, but for the most part there are things that separate them and so we try to cater to what our audience is looking for.
In closing: the LCK and LEC and LCS all have different styles that each caster must adapt to. If you prefer the LCK style, that's absolutely fine, but to expect that same style to appear in every other region is unfortunately not likely. This shouldn't make us worse as casters or as a broadcast, it's simply a different way of watching the game. If that's not for you, that's absolutely okay, but I would suggest that if you're going to make such strong statements such as "the cast has no personality" and "harping on about bs that is never going to happen" you come with some examples or situations to support such statements. I hope this provides some context!
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