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So the problem is that there are too many people in D4 and thus there is too big a skill discrepancy between such small differences in rank with D4 feeling like a black hole because of low lp gains.

My solution is pretty simple, why not just add a 5th Division to each tier? I know it might be difficult to implement and I know players just LOVE the current system(xd), but I am sure tons of players in D4 would drop to the new "D5" and with this you can have a more spread out system because there are more tiers. I know this might make it more "grind-y" on the surface, but promoting with a 65% winrate into D4 after gaining 23-25 a game only to suddenly gain 15-16 a win seems more grind-y to me.

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over 5 years ago - /u/MoreChrono - Direct link

Interesting solution, maybe we should look at that ;)

Just as a point of clarity, the number of players in a division doesn't have any impact on the skill discrepancy within that division or the LP gains in that division. Amount of players in a division does not factor into any equations for LP.

over 5 years ago - /u/MoreChrono - Direct link

Originally posted by jhelton808

True, but it takes away the perception value of the title of being d4. I understand someone in d4 can have mmr playing with low plats and another can have mmr playing with masters, but because d4 is so massive, it really makes the title less relevant

Totally agree with that sentiment. I just wanted to clarify. I see a lot of people talking about how D4 is a mess because it has a lot of people in it and the truth is the number of people doesn't matter and it is still a very small number of people compared to the rest of League. It is large compared to the rest of Diamond.

I do agree players should feel good about getting to Diamond and it is definitely not delivering on that promise right now.

over 5 years ago - /u/MoreChrono - Direct link

Originally posted by jhelton808

I just dont understand why i ranked my smurf to over a 65% winrate gaining like 23-25 a win and then had a like 6 or so game winstreak to promote to d4 just to win my 7th in a row and gain 15 like what happened lol

Agree. That sucks. We are taking a look at it.