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I love to play the game, even though I hate the game with all my heart. I hate everything Summoner's Rift stands for, but I love to play ARAM. This is because ARAM is fast paced, skill based combat, and doesn't have all this macro BS, that I hate about SR.
Problem is.... I cannot choose my champion.

Why is this a problem? Well because I love certain champions, and I hate others. I play this game to have fun, and having to play yuumi, Sejuani, or Rammus is just boring for me. I'd love to see nexus blitz become a permanent gamemode because it offers everything ARAM does, but enables picking your champion.
I have 6k RP sitting on my account, and I'd love to use them on skins, but I cannot since I wont buy a skin for a champion, that I rarely get to play in ARAM.

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over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by Oleandervine

Haven't they been gushing about a 2v2v2v2v2 mode they're working on for like the past 6 months?

For vis - should be hitting PBE around the 26th or 27th of this month

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by Jragon713

https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-state-of-modes-2023/

We’re going to try and deliver the mode with as much polish as we can manage, but you might see a few more cracks than you’re used to. And if you like it, you can expect to see it again in the future with improvements.

"see it again in the future" implies to me that it will be rotating out, and later potentially back in.

Current plan is for a longer than usual run (more than two patches). Things like when it comes back, how frequently, for how long etc will be based off how popular it is, in particular how well play rate maintains over the course of its run

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by KejornLoL

I have heavy doubts that it will be a permanently viable mode without a competitive queue.

If they design it solely for casual play, a ton of the playerbase will play for a week or two and then drop it. Just like Nexus blitz.

It doesn't get much better than Nexus Blitz imo and that did not pass the test. The only exception by Riot's own standard is ARAM and it wasn't even a mode they really designed. It was a community made game mode.

2v2v2v2 mode will be launching with a rating system. Not the same as Ranked, but something fairly similar to how the Double Up rating system in TFT works

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by Oleandervine

I'm honored that you responded to me! Also excited for when it lands! It seems like it'll be such a wild ride. Will we get more levels of -kill since there will be more enemies? So Octakills?

It's not a free for all all at once, but a series of 2v2 matches! Think like a tournament structure

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by WoonStruck

Hopefully its tailored enough to add some parity to the different power curves and classes in league.

I have my doubts, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised by their handling of it.

That's the intent. Being realistic, balance will probably be off for some champions, maybe some classes even day 1. Will patch or potentially hotfix as needed

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by Oleandervine

Ohh, so like the duel mode of Nexus Blitz!

Yes!

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMaxw3ll - Direct link

Originally posted by Riahisama

Have you already considered making the mode permanent if it's well received? It's a new game mode with new maps and you're even adding a rating system, it's sounds refreshing but it would be such a waste to make it another time limited mode and to be completely honest I'm tired of not having a fun mode whenever I feel like playing league. ARAM can get sweaty and it just doesn't hit the same for me anymore. Is there a reason why you guys shy away from making more permanent modes? I've heard the population argument but I don't get it, competitive players will mostly still play ranked and the same goes for aram players so what gives?

Biggest knock against permanent modes is making sure that there is player desire for it. We don’t want to say something is going to be permanent only to have it be only lukewarm on release. If players don’t like it that much I’d rather us put that energy towards finding something they love rather than maintaining something they like.

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by popegonzo

Any word on how the queue is going to work for this? Is it only going to be a 2-person queue or could we queue as 8 & have teams randomly decided?

On initial launch at least it'll just be teams of 2. We'd like to add queueing as 8, but won't have it initially though

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by WoonStruck

I have no doubt that it could be balanced. I just hope its prioritized more than past permanent game modes. That's the main concern. Its a different Riot from back then, so hopefully that will be different.

One of the major problems with past game modes (mostly temporary ones) is that there's very little incentive to play beyond novelty, so once that wore off, the modes were practically abandoned. If the game mode drops off after a month, are there plans to add incentivizes to playing the mode beyond novelty? Adding forms of depth/progression, as an example.

This mode will be launching with a rating system (very similar to the one Double Up in TFT uses), which we think should be a meaningful part of supporting longer term sustained engagement. Also expecting we'll do more frequent, responsive balance changes than some modes would do, given while this isn't meant to be as competitive as SR is it's still a more competitive and therefore balance sensitive experience than most of our other game modes

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by bayonetworking123

Remember Nexus Blitz duels? Sounds like they're reusing it.

Not reusing any of the code, but definitely inspired in part by that event from Nexus Blitz yeah

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by HoglordSupreme

cant wait to see it for 1 month then never again. Better release another battle pass too just in case

It'll be live for longer than 1 month. I'm very much hoping we get to bring it back reasonably soon too, but that's going to depend on whether people like it and keep playing it or not

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by vegetablesandcum

Will PBE be fixed by then? Haven't been able to log in for like 10 days.

If you haven't already I'd suggest trying with a fresh account - we've been seeing some accounts are bugged at present. Definitely want to fix that, but as a workaround making a new one might get you in in the meantime

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by HoglordSupreme

I want to believe. Actions speak louder than words and the track record isn't great. I just wish Riot would release game modes for fun without worrying about huge corporate overhead. You guy used to not worry about trying things out

Understood on actions being what matters. Tag me on a thread in a couple of weeks if you want to continue this conversation then once you've seen what we're working on on PBE?

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by Spideraxe30

Hey Meddler would you know what the modes team's plan is for after the mode goes live. Will it mostly be iterating based on feedback for another run or will they start working on older modes again

Depends on how the mode goes in terms of player feedback, playrate etc. Going in open minded

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by Spideraxe30

Hey Meddler are you able to share if you're going to record the next dev update this week or next, iirc you mentioned wanting to get one out in late July

Yeah, we’re still aiming to record soon (probably next week) and then get the video out just before the end of the month

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by HoglordSupreme

I apologize for the delay in my response, as I wanted to get my hands on the new gamemode and changes before I formulated my opinion. I also could not find a suitable thread to mention you as I didn't want to put up red flags for anyone else. I'd also like to note that for what its worth, This is feedback from a 10 year player with all purchasable content in game (outside of chromas and tft).

As for the the 2v2v2v2 mode, this is honestly some fine work. Pristine work actually. I'm very happy with how it came together. It is a much needed break from the regular gameplay loop SR and Aram offer.

People have been begging for a new perm gamemode for a very long time, And and top of that just begging for some gamemode release consistency. Arena is in my opinion, over all the other gamemodes, the one that seriously needs to be implemented as a new perm mode because it is just dissimilar enough.

I would love to see some rock hard promises from riot on content inclusion, above anything else. League is too late in the game to only have the modes it has, its actually astounding to me that we've gotten rid of 2 maps with no replacement for one of the largest games on the planet. Arena is THE addition we've all been waiting for. Twisted treeline and dominion need to be avenged someday

Glad to hear it's treating you well!

We're going to need to see how engagement with Arena trends for a little bit before we can make any commitments regarding its future. We'd certainly love to put more time into it, got a large list of stuff we'd like to improve or add.

over 1 year ago - /u/RiotMeddler - Direct link

Originally posted by FruitfulRogue

Hey Meddler can we get an update on whether we'll get a season Start cinematic next year? It's been nearly 8 months. Feels like a good time to start setting expectations on whether we should expect one or not.

There will be a season start cinematic next year in January, yes