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Originally posted by MentalNinjas

I wonder if this is partly why the music video this year didn’t focus at all on T1 destroying the entire LPL in 2023. I thought that entire storyline of “T1 vs the LPL” would be the focus, but riot seemed to ignore it completely.

If they’re trying to make sure LPL morale stays up, that would explain a lot

Can someone explain this to me?

LPL has actually won multiple world championships, unlike LCS or LEC (not counting season one, sorry). And their title drought is, what, three years?

If their fan base won’t support unless they win every single year, then the fan base is on shaky foundations to begin with. Compare this to football, where a top league can go a decade without winning the Champions League and no one will worry about the sport is dying.

What is really the issue here? Is it entitlement? Because giving up on a sport because your league (not team, league) hasn’t won internationally in three years is insane. “Real Madrid won 3 Champions Leagues in a row, time to shut down the Bundesliga.”

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Originally posted by JL1007

I can read Chinese, so I can tell you that this year's loss is completely different from the past. Usually, people will be mad and vent out their frustration, but most just want to unfollow and leave league entirely out their lives.

And why is that? Not winning an international tournament for three years is grounds to give up an entire league? Can you point me to any other sport in the world with this kind of precedent?

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Originally posted by Zen_Armadillo

Its the repercussions of 3 years Worlds draught since 2021. All LPL viewers care is to dominate the international scenes, and this year, another hype of full Chinese roster to win it all brings everything to a point of no return. And with salary cap implementing next year in LPL, everything kinda makes sense.

Bayern Munich hasn’t won UCL since 2020. Barcelona since 2015. Manchester United since 2008. AC Milan since 2007. Juventus since 1996. Should these clubs give up on the sport?

Obviously not. The LPL fanbase needs to grow up. Winning isn’t guaranteed in any worthwhile competition.

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Originally posted by Swamivik

Yea NA lol

What sport is NA?

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Originally posted by dabmin

They literally won MSI last year lmao

Yeah this is just so strange to me. I wonder if there’s a deeper issue here that pertains to Korea-China relations.

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Originally posted by masterchip27

It's pretty obvious if you think about it. China has a massive population, nearly 2 1.4 billion, stadiums for teams across the country, massive support, financial backing, imports, etc -- and yet they can't beat South Korea, a relatively small geographical area. Sure, esports has been big in Korea, but there's national pride on the line as China is a global superpower. It's like the US being beaten by Mexico for three years in a row, for lack of a better analogy. The venture capitalists are whimsical and can get fed up at a moments notice

  1. China has never, to my knowledge, been super dominant over Korea in most sports. Be it football (soccer) or eSports. Maybe table tennis? And yet, from what I understand, football is still quite popular and funded in China, despite not having access to any of the top competitions.

  2. To your last analogy, the US has been consistently beating Mexico in football for the last three or four years (an unexpected turn for a historical rivalry). And yet, football in Mexico is still thriving and nobody is calling it quits over there.

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Originally posted by oioioi9537

economic downturn and gaming restrictions for minors, no ones talking about it but its a big factor

This actually seems like a contributing factor worth noting.

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Originally posted by Wide_Geologist3316

It's an old ass video game, people are just generally losing interest.

  1. All sports are old as hell at this point

  2. Losing interest? Viewership records are being broken year on year.

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Originally posted by Wide_Geologist3316

Yeah, it's a video game that's well past its expiration date.

The game has more addicted to playing it than those that actually enjoy playing it.

I follow pro play in highlights and threads, but haven't watched a full match in like 5 years and watch less and less vods every year.

Why do league players think a game should last forever?

Do all competitive games or sports have an expiration date?