I've played many games against them recently, in Jungle or in other lanes, and sometimes they do poorly and sometimes they do well. However, in almost all of these games, they are just unfun to play against. Their passives do things and are useful, using ultimates are just always unfun to play against for me. It feels like the game (or at least the fights) are centered around them, and I don't feel it's particularly good game design from Riot to be adding more champs.
This isn't even mentioning the regular complaints about champs' kits becoming more "overloaded," with them certainly being no exception as they have a lot of tools at their disposal. I don't know, I love playing this game but I just really don't have a fun gameplay experience against other champions whenever they show up. I don't mind the other parts of their kit, it's really just the passive, the Q, the W, the E, and the R that is just straight up unfun to play against. I guess the idea of playing against champions and having their abilities be used on you is cool on paper, but I don't feel that Riot's execution of the idea was great.External link →