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Coming to you from the Amazon Games |
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Community Team, it's the Lost Ark |
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Academy Debate Club. |
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With your host, straight |
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out of rocks box, it's Roxx! |
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Welcome to the Lost Ark Academy |
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Debate Club. This is where our |
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contestants debate to prove they |
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have what it takes not to be a |
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Mokoko. I'm Roxx and I'm here |
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to make sure nobody gives away any |
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story spoilers. Right, Mokoko? |
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Nineveh dies. |
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Shut the f$#@ up! |
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Shut up, please. |
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Thank you. |
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Let's bring out our creator debaters |
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for another episode. |
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First up, we have Stoopzz. |
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Yeah. |
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Roxx, I brought you a flower. |
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It didn't make it very far. |
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Okay. Thanks. |
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Thanks for trying, I guess. |
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Next up, we have Bobajenny. |
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Okay, we're bringing out Grenton. |
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And finally, we have |
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DatModz. |
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Let's go, Mr. Modz. |
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Why am I clapping for myself? |
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Because you're worth it. |
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You always gonna be your number one |
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fan. True. |
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All right, let's get into it with |
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our 2v2 warm up debate. |
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Your teams are DatModz and Grenton |
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versus Stoopzz and Bobajenny. |
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Today, your warm up topic is: |
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Which continent |
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in Lost Ark has the best story? |
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You two are going to be arguing for |
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Elgacia. You two are going to be |
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arguing for Rowen. |
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Give you all a minute to strategize. |
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Think about that lovely story. |
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Regret pressing G. |
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So we're a few episodes in now and |
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you're probably wondering where you |
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can watch all of these creators |
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outside of the Lost Ark Academy |
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Debate Club. |
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Well, Stoopzz, DatModz, |
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Bobajenny, and Grenton all stream |
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and create content on Twitch TV. |
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So you can hop in, give them a |
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follow, watch their own livestreams, |
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and even join their own communities |
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after you're done watching the show. |
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I'm sure they'd really appreciate |
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it. And if you join, be sure to tell |
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them you came from the Debate Club. |
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We'll see you over there. |
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All right. Now, let's get back to |
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the real show at hand. |
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All right. It looks like everyone's |
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ready, so let's get right into |
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it. You guys can begin. |
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Elgacia |
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Okay. How can you not like Rowen? |
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Indigenous people... |
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She asked me what the best story |
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was. Okay. |
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It's like this. |
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How could you not cheer for Rowen? |
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You have the underdog. |
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They're fighting for their... |
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their rights, their freedom, |
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their land. |
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And not only that. |
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It's not like, Elgacia where you |
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meet, you met all of these |
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characters at the beginning of the |
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game, right through Luterra and all |
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this stuff. This is a zone where you |
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come in, you meet these characters |
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instantly, you form an attachment |
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to them, and then they just go ahead |
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and throw it all in the trashcan. |
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And then you hate them. |
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You never have seen anywhere |
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in Lost Ark that you build an |
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attachment and hatred for characters |
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as fast story as |
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Good story but it's a little too |
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short. This is the finale of a |
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season long game, right? |
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But no one likes the ending of |
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something. |
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The end of this is the |
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finale to the game. The whole |
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time when you're doing the quest you |
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see the 7th Ark on the top part of |
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your screen. People would come to my |
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chat and say, Stoopzz, how can I find
the |
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7th Ark? It's in Elgacia. |
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It has the most epic fight scenes in |
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the entire game. |
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It's got amazing music. |
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You see Armand, where'd he go? |
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F$@# Armand. |
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No one likes the end of a journey. |
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And you got to admit |
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the Osphere Ark in Rowen |
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actually gets your emotions going. |
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The ultimate betrayal. |
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You think - I wouldn't know because I
SHIFT+G |
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literally everything. |
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But that's how good this story was. |
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It was so good that I watched |
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all of the cutscenes - it's amazing! |
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It's the finale |
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of the game. |
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I think you probably SHIFT+G'd |
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Elgacia too. And you just had Saint. |
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I watched the cutscenes. |
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The music video also very good, |
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Bobajenny. |
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It's in LOAON and it's like a nice |
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song that ties everything together. |
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And Rowen has good music. |
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No one cares about Rowen man. |
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You know how sad you get when like
your |
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favorite season of the show ends or |
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something. |
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But the finale is really important, |
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right? That's what you remember. |
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When something ends, you always |
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think about the finale and that's |
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like the thing that sticks in your |
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mind. |
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And save the best for last. |
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It's a great ending, great song, |
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great cutscenes. |
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And also a great dungeon along with |
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it. What do you get in Rowen? |
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You get phoenixed off screen. |
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We're not talking about the gameplay. |
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We're talking about the story. |
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You associate the continent with the
gameplay, |
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that's what it is. |
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Rowen has Osphere. |
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Rowen has Osphere. |
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Kadan, the biggest gigachad in the
game. |
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That is enough for me to end this
debate. |
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Nobody likes endings, but I'm |
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putting one here. |
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We're going to cut to commercial, |
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and when we come back, we'll have |
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our 1v1 debate. |
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1v1v1v1. |
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Rowen doesn't have story dungeons, |
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though. |
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If you love gravity-defying |
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architecture, |
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adorable animal friends |
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and winged warriors battling the |
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forces of evil, |
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look no further than the beautiful |
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floating city of Elgacia. |
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Elgacia - a place for lovers |
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and big ass sky whales. |
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All right. Welcome back. |
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It is time for a1v1 debate. |
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You know how it goes. |
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Contestant 1 gets a minute. |
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Contestant 2 gets a minute. |
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Contestant 1 gets another minute. |
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Contestant 2 gets another minute. |
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So Grenton and |
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DatModz, today's topic is: Are |
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Sidereal weapons worth |
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it? |
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DatModz, you are going to argue |
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for sidereal weapons, |
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Grenton, you will argue against |
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them. I'll give you both a minute to |
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strategize. |
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What do you think, Bobajenny. |
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I feel it depends on what you want |
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to get out of the game. |
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So I can see the pros and cons of |
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both sides, but I feel |
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like it would be a little bit |
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difficult to get them. |
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So when you do it's a flex. |
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I think worth is a subjective word, |
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right? |
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They're definitely not worth it to
me, |
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that's for sure. But you know, if |
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someone's got one, I think it's |
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pretty sweet. I guess, you know, |
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it's this big glowy weapon that does |
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a bunch of damage. |
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To flex. |
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Yeah. Yeah. |
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It's not bad. |
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All right, debaters, you're |
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looking pretty ready. |
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Are you feeling pretty ready? |
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I'm ready. |
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Ready. |
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All right. |
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Ain't no way. |
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DatModz, I feel like you have a |
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little bit of a challenging topic, |
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so I will give you the floor first. |
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Your minute starts now. |
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So I'm arguing pro-sidereal weapons. |
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Honestly, the coolest thing in the |
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game, they're very unique. |
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They incorporate different |
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characters that you meet throughout |
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the entire story. |
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They give you power... |
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their powers that are extremely |
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strong. Thirain, temporary |
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buff for you, and then your party |
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wants you to get Esther 8. |
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So it's huge for burst classes. |
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Anana, it gives |
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you a heal, and if you die, it'll |
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resurrect you. |
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Balthor, a shield |
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that's very, very useful |
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in all raids. |
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Really, the only downside of the |
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Sidereal weapons is the cost. |
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Outside of that, they're very |
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unique. |
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Their weapon glows are very distinct |
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and iconic. You could see someone |
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with one of those weapons from far |
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away, and they're very beneficial |
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overall to the power of your group. |
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So outside of that, I think |
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honestly, the idea and the concept |
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of Sidereal weapons is one of the |
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coolest thing that Lord Ark has. |
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Only downside could be the cost. |
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All right, Grenton, you have one |
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minute to make your argument. |
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You did a pretty good sales pitch |
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for the pros of |
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a Sidereal weapon, and you kind of |
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just danced around the cons. |
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But to determine if something's |
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worth it, you need to do a cost |
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benefit analysis. |
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And when you look at the cost of a |
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Sidereal weapon for someone |
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like yourself who likes playing a |
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lot of classes, for that same |
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price, you can completely |
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max out your entire roster |
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so you can get a lot more enjoyment |
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out of the game by having this wide |
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variety of roster to play with |
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your friends, your community. |
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Whereas if you just throw through |
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all of that into a Sidereal weapon, |
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cool, You have one weapon |
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on your one character |
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and you might make seven other |
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people happy, but that's about it. |
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So the amount of investment |
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you need to get that Sidereal weapon |
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to the point where it's even better |
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than the regular gear is way |
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too much to even have a conversation |
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that if it's worth it or not. |
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Okay. |
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All right, DatModz, you have one |
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minute for your response. |
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The one thing that you have to |
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remember: cost is subjective from |
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person to person. |
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Everyone values money differently. |
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Everyone has different amounts of |
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money. |
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Some people, Lost Ark is their |
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hobby. It's something they enjoy and |
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they're willing to put that money in |
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the game and it gives them |
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something, something that's iconic. |
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It gives you a power boost. |
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And quite frankly, if someone had a |
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Sidereal weapon, if they applied to |
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your party, would you deny them? |
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If they're a Zork. |
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How dare you? |
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And it does give a marginal power |
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boost. It's not a super insane power |
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boost from what you get as a |
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free-to-play player, anything else |
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like that. It's just one of those |
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cool, like little showcase |
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collectible items that you could get |
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- and you can get it overtime |
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free-to-play, which is very, very |
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unlikely. |
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But they do give you free energies |
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from clearing Brelsha the hard |
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mode to get three of them, and then |
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over time, like nine or ten months, |
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you could get 30 free |
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Sidereals too. So 33 free ones... |
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and you still need like 50 plus |
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more. |
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But anyways, it is a really cool |
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item. The only downside - the cost. |
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And you'll bring anyone with |
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a Sidereal weapon to your raids - |
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it's absolutely amazing for prog'in. |
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Not anyone. |
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All right. |
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Almost anybody. |
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Grenton, you have one minute for |
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your final response. |
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Okay. Well, like |
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you said, right? The weapon is very |
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iconic and it's very cool. |
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And you can technically earn |
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it free to play plus, plus, |
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plus like you are. |
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But I think that if the |
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weapon itself was more accessible |
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to a wide variety of players, it was |
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a genuine long term goal |
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that wasn't kind of gated behind, |
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you know, exorbitant amounts of |
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money or having to rely on other |
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players selling you the energy on |
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the auction house, and it was |
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something that you could actually |
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genuinely grind, kind of like Ignia |
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tokens, then it would definitely |
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be worth it. But yeah, money is |
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subjective and I don't think |
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even the richest person will tell |
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you it's a good investment. |
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It's just a fun investment. |
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So I don't think it's worth it, but |
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it is a very cool weapon. |
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Time! |
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All right. Sounds like that was our |
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debate. So I'm going to bring over |
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the spectators so we can discuss and |
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decide our winner. |
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All right. So thank you for joining |
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me. That was a very challenging |
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debate topic. |
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But I'm curious to know what you |
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both thought. |
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I think that DatModz is always |
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getting shafted and getting the hard |
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topics. |
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Yeah, but he's a good sport and he |
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makes some really good arguments. |
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Yeah. You know, I guess worth is |
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subjective and, you know, if you |
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really want to get something and you |
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enjoy playing the game and you want |
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it, then it's worth it to you. |
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But I also see what |
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Grenton's saying - that if you were |
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going to even invest that much into |
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the game, there's lots of other ways |
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that you can spend your gold. |
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Bobajenny, how are you feeling? |
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I mean, at this point, I think so |
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many players take or |
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think Lost Ark is their hobby, and |
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it's absolutely mine. |
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So I can kind of get behind how |
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people would want to |
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invest in a Sidereal |
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weapon. But at the end of the |
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day, they both made really, |
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really good points. |
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I can see both pros and |
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cons. It's kind of one of those |
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situations where you kind of see |
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both sides and it's |
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- to me it's very, very subjective |
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as well. |
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Yeah, that makes sense too. |
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Can I have a sidereal weapon? |
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No. |
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With that, I will send you back. |
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It was worth a shot.
And we will declare our |
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winner. |
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Grenton. |
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What's up? |
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DatModz.
Mm hmm. |
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Grenton. |
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DatModz. |
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Grenton again. |
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Grenton. |
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Grenton. |
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Grenotn.
Roxx. |
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You are not |
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a Mokoko. DatModz is the Mokoko. |
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He did have a hard topic. |
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He made a really great arguments for |
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why they're cool, but unfortunately, |
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the question is, are they worth it? |
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So, you know, Grenton had the |
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stronger debate there. |
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But thank you for being a good |
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sport. |
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I still love you Mr. Modz. |
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Any time. Keep on giving me the hard
questions. |
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I'll take them all. |
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I will absolutely do that. |
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All right. Thank you for joining us |
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on this week's episode of Lost Ark |
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Academy Debate Club. |
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And don't worry, it doesn't matter |
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how many hard topics we give DatModz |
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because none of this actually |
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matters. |
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None of this matters until the live |
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series finale, where the community |
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will vote on who is and who is not a |
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Mokoko. |
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All right - we'll see you next week. |
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Yeah! |
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If you enjoyed this video, be sure |
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to like it and subscribe to our |
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channels so we can keep bringing you |
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