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| 1s | What is that face you're making? |
|---|---|
| 2s | I mean, I'm not doing nothing. |
| 4s | Yeah. |
| 4s | If you're going to do that, we should all just do that. |
| 7s | No, it's my thing. |
| 8s | Everyone is just deadpan. |
| 9s | I have this patent, not you. |
| 11s | The coming Thaemine Legion Raid— I thought you were talking about Kanon. |
| 13s | That's crazy. |
| 16s | This was just— A race. |
| 20s | we're really excited to kind of get into these talks and talk a little bit about— [DOOR SLAMS] Whoa. |
| 26s | This guy. |
| 31s | Can he hear us? |
| 32s | That was a heroic exit! |
| 32s | This guy busted out of here. |
| 34s | Just an absolute heroic exit. |
| 36s | The Kool-Aid man! |
| 38s | Strategy, uh, good times, I guess. |
| 41s | These guys are already laughing. |
| 42s | Sorry, hold on a second. |
| 43s | There's no way. |
| 45s | What is happening? |
| 45s | There's no way. |
| 46s | This person person's playing like a mobile game. |
| 48s | That's the third today. |
| 50s | Welcome to the first ever Lost Ark Roundtable. |
| 53s | We've gathered up— I mean I don't know why he's laughing. |
| 57s | Saint, you done ruined it. |
| 59s | This is the 19th take. |
| 61s | Welcome to the. |
| 62s | first ever Lost Ark Roundtable. |
| 64s | We've gathered up some creators here today that you might be a little bit familiar with, to get together with us and talk about the upcoming Thaemine Legion raid and the Thaemine the First Race. |
| 74s | We're going to get in a little bit to kind of some of the tips and tricks and what they're excited for, how they're going to be approaching these pieces of content when they come to the game. |
| 83s | But before we do that, we're going to take a minute to introduce ourselves, just in case, you know, the players at home actually aren't familiar with all of us. |
| 91s | So I'm Roxx. |
| 92s | I'm the Product Community Manager on Lost Ark. |
| 95s | I'm going to be here just kind of hosting and moving the conversation along today. |
| 100s | Henry, why don't we start with you, Mr. |
| 102s | Patch Notes over here? |
| 104s | Yeah. |
| 104s | So you might recognize me from the Lost Ark Patch Notes. |
| 107s | Patch Notes with Henry. |
| 108s | I'm Henry, the Head of Editorial at Amazon Games. |
| 112s | And now, over to the creators. |
| 113s | Want to introduce yourself? |
| 115s | Hello. |
| 115s | My name is Kanon, and I'm a returning player. |
| 122s | That's why you're here. |
| 123s | That's valid. |
| 124s | Can you, can you include, like, a little. |
| 126s | lower third in the video? |
| 127s | Like Mokoko? |
| 129s | Mokoko buff. |
| 130s | It's right here. |
| 132s | It's right here. |
| 132s | Dude! |
| 133s | That buff. |
| 135s | Great. |
| 135s | Crisis invasion Mokoko buff. |
| 137s | He is pretty clutch. |
| 139s | I wouldn't know, it's never procced for me, but sure. |
| 141s | Hypothetically, it's pretty clutch. |
| 143s | Hypothetically it is. |
| 144s | Perfect. |
| 145s | What about, What about you? |
| 146s | Who are you? |
| 148s | Uh... |
| 148s | I am. |
| 149s | WHO ARE YOU? |
| 150s | I mean, I know who you are, but they might not. |
| 151s | I'm. |
| 151s | I'm Saintone. |
| 152s | I don't even play the Western version. |
| 154s | They just found me, and they needed someone to sit in this chair. |
| 159s | Also, can you censor the name, no one actually knows how to pronounce my name. |
| 162s | I was just about to call you out on that. |
| 164s | Yeah. |
| 165s | Make sure to bleep that out. |
| 166s | And I don't know if they're going to include this, but that was the first time you've actually said it. |
| 171s | Yeah. |
| 172s | Oh, you might know me from the, Breaker Academy guide that they recently posted, but I'm going to talk a little bit about Thaemine since I've been through it. |
| 181s | And just some tips and tricks along the way. |
| 183s | My name is Stoopzz. |
| 186s | I play a lot of Lost Ark. |
| 188s | You may have seen me talking about the game. |
| 194s | All right. |
| 194s | I don't know what else to say. |
| 195s | So we have Patch Notes with Henry. |
| 196s | We have Mokoko. |
| 198s | We have Korean player. |
| 201s | We've got "maybe talking about the game". |
| 203s | We've assembled this panel. |
| 204s | Mostly I'm talking about the game. |
| 205s | Not playing it most of the time. |
| 206s | Clearly. |
| 207s | Clearly a very in-depth panel of very different individuals. |
| 213s | Talking about the game or just talking in the category? |
| 216s | Both. |
| 217s | Ohhhh. |
| 218s | Both. |
| 220s | Longest intro NA to streams. |
| 223s | Best known for the four hour intro. |
| 225s | Actually, the five hour intro. |
| 226s | Got to draw it out. |
| 227s | It is the five hour intro. |
| 228s | I was waiting for the Breeaker stream. |
| 230s | You know, and you know, we got a two hour podcast, which is nice I guess. |
| 236s | That's rare for me on patch day. |
| 237s | Usually I hop right into it but I decided I was gonna take my time of getting into it and patch day's stressful, you know? |
| 243s | There we go. |
| 245s | Well, there actually were quite a lot of things that came out the last patch. |
| 249s | I wanted to get into that a little bit before we look ahead toThaemine Especially with you, Kanon, as kind of this quote unquote returning player. |
| 258s | There's a ton of progression events that are in the game right now. |
| 260s | And I know you are working on a video for that to, kind of go through some of them. |
| 265s | So maybe you Kanon and Henry, want to talk a little bit about all the progression events that are in the game right now and how players can get caught up and get ready to get to Thaemine. |
| 274s | I have a video that's going to be releasing pretty soon on the AGS channel, as well as my YouTube channel, and it is a video in regards to these new passes, which, to be perfectly honest, was a big reason why I've been recently kind of hooked. |
| 288s | That's not a paid message. |
| 290s | I have been kind of hooked on Lost Ark again. |
| 294s | Breaker has been a phenomenal class for me to play. |
| 297s | That's like my favorite preferred archetype. |
| 299s | And these passes. |
| 301s | He's lying, by the way, I convinced him to play Breaker. |
| 303s | I sat there in a Discord call, shared all the little videos with you. |
| 306s | Okay, hold on dude. |
| 306s | I sold you on the class. |
| 308s | You did. |
| 308s | Give me some credit on this You did, but— What is— what is my preferred archetype? |
| 313s | It has always been gauntlet wielding classes. |
| 314s | That's why I sold you on it. |
| 315s | I told you. |
| 317s | You know that's my type. |
| 317s | Yeah. |
| 318s | I brought you back. |
| 319s | All right, we'll give Stoopzz some credit. |
| 321s | I should get some credit here. |
| 321s | Yeah. |
| 322s | All right. |
| 322s | To be fair, we'll give him a lot of credit. |
| 324s | Stoopzz. |
| 324s | Stoopzz's he. |
| 325s | Yeah. |
| 327s | Thank you Stoopzz. |
| 328s | You're welcome. |
| 328s | You satisfied? |
| 332s | He roasted me earlier I'm going to get his ass. |
| 334s | How did I roast you? |
| 335s | Talking in the category. |
| 337s | Oh, that was good, though. |
| 338s | It was. |
| 339s | It was me trying to help you expand. |
| 341s | Yeah. |
| 341s | You know, like. |
| 342s | Hey, guys. |
| 344s | Next Asmongold. |
| 345s | I don't know if I should say that. |
| 346s | Just. |
| 346s | Okay. |
| 347s | All right. |
| 348s | Okay, we'll cut that. |
| 349s | But anyways, the passes. |
| 352s | So these passes have been just a big W for the game, in my personal opinion. |
| 358s | The previous jump start was kind of exciting for new players, but I really think this event in particular was a lot better for new players and returning players, if I'm going to be perfectly honest. |
| 368s | Yeah, like the Arkesia Tour, where you're essentially just giving everyone the horizontal after completing a few easy missions, I think that's. |
| 377s | I think that alone was like awesome, a huge highlight. |
| 381s | Like for me, I had a lot of that stuff done already. |
| 383s | But the fact that I can invite friends over and be like, yeah, you don't actually have to do all that stuff. |
| 388s | Sure, there's some stuff that you have to farm, but you know, every everybody, you gotta farm that stuff to a certain degree. |
| 393s | It's not overwhelming. |
| 395s | And then just being able to see the raids, like just knowing that the raids are right there, you know, because like if you start an MMO and it's like, you know, you can't do the end game content with your friends, it's like it's it can be a little bit discouraging to start a game. |
| 415s | For sure. |
| 416s | But like this, it's like, okay, well, I can legitimately play raids with these friends like I if I created a new account today, I can play with Saint and Stoopzz tomorrow. |
| 425s | Maybe not me. |
| 427s | Well you could. |
| 428s | Oh, yeah. |
| 429s | I'm 1620 already on NA West. |
| 432s | Oh are you? |
| 432s | Okay. |
| 432s | Soon to be merged though. |
| 435s | Are you really? |
| 435s | Yeah, yeah. |
| 436s | I've been there for a little while. |
| 437s | I mean, I know you used to ply but you kept playing. |
| 439s | Yeah, yeah. |
| 440s | Oh. |
| 441s | Did you take advantage of the new passes? |
| 443s | I haven't, but I wish I did because it got. |
| 447s | It was pretty. |
| 447s | What do you mean you wish, you can. |
| 448s | No, because I'm already 1620. |
| 451s | It goes up to 1619. |
| 451s | Oh, I mean you can make another character. |
| 453s | Yeah. |
| 453s | could make another character. |
| 454s | I'm just saying, like. |
| 455s | I mean, do you remember the last time you played the game what kind of catch up mechanics it were? |
| 458s | Yeah, it was it was tough. |
| 461s | It was not as good as now. |
| 462s | But this is the thing we were talking about before at home. |
| 465s | Yeah, yeah. |
| 466s | Cuz we always get people in our, our streams are always like, Is now a good time to start playing Lost Ark again? |
| 472s | And it's like, it's always the best time. |
| 473s | The next event is always the best. |
| 475s | Yeah, yeah, the next one's always the best. |
| 476s | Yeah. |
| 478s | It's just like this gradual thing. |
| 479s | So like last time, you know, when the Super Mokoko Express came out, people were like, oh man, this is the greatest thing ever. |
| 484s | Yeah. |
| 484s | Now this one is coming out and this has like, stuff on top of that and the horizontal express. |
| 487s | And then it's like, okay, this is the best one ever. |
| 490s | So yeah. |
| 490s | Yeah. |
| 491s | You know it's always the best time to come back. |
| 495s | Yeah. |
| 495s | As far as the events go those will be you know, they're in the game until the middle of July. |
| 501s | But the horizontal pass is permanent in the game. |
| 504s | That'll just be around for players whenever. |
| 506s | Yeah. |
| 506s | So even if players come back later on they'll still be able to check that out. |
| 509s | But yeah the events right now are pretty, you know, we're really happy with how players are able to progress. |
| 515s | Obviously we have you know, Kanon's video he's going to dive into all those different events in that video. |
| 520s | In terms of like just coming back to the game, obviously the passes like kind of help you accelerate through some of those raids. |
| 526s | And, you know, we're talking about how they get you to kind of normal Thaemine at 1610. |
| 531s | What are some of the other things that you're like experiencing as you come back to the game that might be helpful for a new player? |
| 536s | Like, are there like types of raids or things to learn in the raids that you would recommend, like as players kind of prepare for Thaemine? |
| 545s | Yeah, I think, I think it's a little bit easier now to actually get acclimated to the raids. |
| 554s | Like gatekeeping obviously exists in every MMO, but like the fact that you're essentially getting to start at, uhm what's her name? |
| 565s | 1490. |
| 567s | Brel. |
| 567s | Brelshaze. |
| 568s | But also the other Legion raids before it. |
| 569s | Oh my God, Vykas, and Valtan, all those things. |
| 572s | Like if you do do that, you're not just immediately jailed. |
| 576s | Like you can, you can do it with people that can essentially clear when you want to clear for you and kind of walk you through that, assuming that you have friends and party members that that can do that for you. |
| 586s | So I think it is a little bit easier to get acclimated to these raids. |
| 590s | And to be perfectly honest, for me, I really like the newer raids better. |
| 595s | Like, I, I really like Valtan. |
| 597s | I thought Vykas was pretty fun. |
| 599s | And then after it, like, I know Stoopzz likes Clown, but I thought a Clown was okay. |
| 603s | But then Brell kind of lost me. |
| 605s | If I'm going to be perfectly honest, I was kind of like, okay, it's good, but it's, I don't know. |
| 610s | And then when I came back and I started doing, Kayangel, and Akkan. |
| 615s | Kayangel's a stinker. |
| 615s | Really? |
| 616s | I do not like Kayangel. |
| 617s | I love Kayangel. |
| 618s | There's no way. |
| 619s | You're out of your mind. |
| 621s | Akkan is amazing. |
| 621s | You're lying, there's not a shot. |
| 623s | I love it. |
| 624s | He reall does. |
| 624s | What classes you play again? |
| 625s | Glavier, Deathblade. |
| 627s | I mean, I can list all 14 of my classes. |
| 630s | Yeah. |
| 630s | All right, they're all 1640, I know. |
| 634s | I don't know. |
| 634s | I don't know, it just teleports too much. |
| 636s | Leaves too often. |
| 637s | This phase is too fast. |
| 638s | But Akkan is great. |
| 639s | Akkan is good. |
| 641s | And the last one that I did. |
| 644s | Voldis. |
| 644s | Voldis, yeah. |
| 644s | Voldis is fun. |
| 645s | We watched your prog when you came back. |
| 647s | It was super entertaining. |
| 648s | Yeah, yeah. |
| 648s | It was just some random morning. |
| 650s | We saw him progging Voldis and it was just like. |
| 652s | We had one of our, one of our friends ATK the call with him as well. |
| 658s | And he's just screaming. |
| 659s | Hit the boss! |
| 660s | Hit the boss! |
| 661s | And it's like. |
| 662s | It's almost like jarring watching the new play experience because like, when you play the game enough, right? |
| 666s | Because just because of the way that Lost Ark is, you do the same raid just like, hundreds of times you almost become jaded about what it's like because you've just gotten used to going through the motions of these raids. |
| 677s | You know the fights so well. |
| 679s | You see someone doing a raid for the first time, and you're like, I mean, that. |
| 684s | That's crazy. |
| 685s | It's so chaotic. |
| 686s | Yeah. |
| 687s | Yeah, I did, and I told Albert, ATK, I told him I was like, okay. |
| 692s | I was doing it with ATK and Honed, one of the people in our community. |
| 696s | And I was like, all right, you guys know the fight. |
| 699s | You guys, you guys do your thing. |
| 700s | But don't tell me how the mechanics work or the patterns until after I die to them. |
| 705s | So like, I went in there essentially blind. |
| 707s | Personally blind. |
| 708s | Yeah. |
| 709s | But obviously we had the power to clear whenever, so it wasn't like a complete jail because they have gear and they know what the fights are like. |
| 715s | And I went in there and I'm trying to figure out these things. |
| 718s | I'm just like, what is happening? |
| 721s | So yeah, it was a lot of fun. |
| 723s | Were there like types of patterns or things that you struggled with, whether that was like maintaining uptime while doing the patterns or like what kind of things would you recommend, like newer players trying to figure out the balance between? |
| 734s | What do you mean? |
| 735s | He doesn't know because he's making a lot of mistakes. |
| 737s | Uptime. |
| 738s | This guy's running around doing laps. |
| 739s | I don't know what's going on. |
| 741s | Just like, attack the boss. |
| 742s | Yeah, he's doing laps. |
| 745s | Were they're just like, types of mechanics or something that you struggled to, like, learn in particular that you might recommend players, focus on that might be harder for them? |
| 754s | Okay. |
| 754s | Honestly, I think what Lost Ark actually does a pretty good job on is taking previous patterns and adding them to, like the most recent fight slash adding on them. |
| 765s | That's really true. |
| 766s | Yeah. |
| 766s | Kind of leveling them up as you progress. |
| 768s | So since I've done the previous Legion raids, it was kind of like, oh, I'm going to do the same mech. |
| 774s | You know what I mean? |
| 774s | You know what that is. |
| 775s | You can just say the OG name, the original name, right. |
| 777s | And then. |
| 777s | Yeah. |
| 778s | And everyone knows Medusa means don't look. |
| 780s | Right, right, right. |
| 781s | Yeah. |
| 781s | So I think, I don't think there's anything in particular that's like too difficult to learn. |
| 789s | But there are a few that might be a little ping sensitive, but I thought, I thought overall it was pretty easy to learn. |
| 796s | I think we were saying earlier, though, just because Kanon coming back, there's a guy named Revell. |
| 802s | He makes really cool YouTube videos about Lost Ark, but he's also getting into the game as a new person, and it was really. |
| 808s | He had an all of the horizontal and gone through all of it. |
| 812s | It's a really interesting journey. |
| 813s | And he just actually recently cleared Akkan so I got to watch that too. |
| 816s | And but and for him, he did it all without the horizontal express. |
| 821s | And he actually said he preferred that right. |
| 823s | But then for some of my other friends, I think what's so cool about the event is that you can just get your like, if you got a buddy, you can say, hey, hop into the game, we can just play some raids, right? |
| 832s | Like that's a lot of how it'll go. |
| 834s | Most MMO that I've played it's like, you try to convince your friends to play, like Yo, play this game with me, right? |
| 839s | So if you have the ability to like, if you want, go through the horizontal and get all those runes that you need. |
| 845s | Because I've had friends before is like, oh, if you want to play Lunar Reaper, you have to go form those wealth runes. |
| 850s | And that sucks. |
| 851s | Yeah, you know what I mean? |
| 851s | It's a lot. |
| 853s | You might be into that. |
| 854s | But if you're not, it's kind of. |
| 855s | Yeah. |
| 856s | It prevents you from like playing the build of the class. |
| 858s | So just being able to instantly hop in with some buddies and get over that horizontal like hurdle. |
| 864s | I think it's huge, cause there's not a lot of games right now that you can just instantly hop in and experience Lost Ark's combat, which is what, at least for me, why I still play the game. |
| 872s | The combat is just so fun. |
| 874s | The class launches are so fun and obviously the raids are fun. |
| 876s | But mostly the combat and the classes. |
| 877s | So I think the ability just to hop in is huge. |
| 880s | I mean, even if you didn't want to stick with the game for like a long time, even if you wanted to be a tourist and just be like, oh, you know, why are people playing the game? |
| 889s | What makes Lost Ark unique? |
| 891s | You can literally just like jump in, play some raids, and then if you want to commit to the grind going forward from there, then you can. |
| 898s | That's what I say all the time. |
| 899s | Exactly. |
| 900s | Like why not? |
| 901s | It's, it's like a zero commitment thing. |
| 904s | I say hop in whenever there's a hyper express. |
| 906s | Like, oh, is now the time to try the game? |
| 908s | Is it a good time? |
| 909s | I'm like dude just hop in with the event, try out the new class and I bet you're going to have fun then. |
| 913s | No, don't worry about like, the raids or whatever. |
| 914s | Just like try out some guardians, try out the combat. |
| 916s | Because when I first started playing the game, like that's what got me hooked. |
| 919s | Just the sound effects and like, playing the class like, yo, this is sick. |
| 923s | Breaker sound effects are pretty sick. |
| 923s | Yeah. |
| 924s | They're huge. |
| 924s | Right? |
| 925s | Okay, well, if you were someone coming in, right? |
| 927s | And let's say you were a bit more, what's the word I'm looking for? |
| 934s | Reserved. |
| 935s | Right. |
| 936s | Because that's literally the opposite of what you are. |
| 938s | Yeah, sure. |
| 939s | Yeah. |
| 939s | So how would you go on about. |
| 940s | Is that a jab or like? |
| 942s | It might be. |
| 942s | Okay. |
| 942s | A lot of people, they talk about, like they come in and think they can find partues. |
| 948s | Yeah. |
| 949s | They don't want to be the person who makes the party. |
| 951s | Because that's the advice that we always give is like, yeah, you know, if you can't find a party, make one yourself. |
| 956s | But like, not everyone wants to do that. |
| 957s | And a lot of people actually suffer from that kind of like anxiety, not only in Lost Ark, but I've seen in other games as well. |
| 962s | They don't want to be the person who takes the initiative to gather the people, but they don't know what resources to actually find people. |
| 967s | And I mean, it is a criticism of Lost Ark, there is no alternative gearing path, right? |
| 973s | They've talked about like other ways to segue players, new players during the Korean yearly conference LOAON and they talked about things like solo raids and whatnot. |
| 985s | And a lot of people are excited about that, right? |
| 987s | The ability to just like, start the game and, you know, just experience a combat without having it on your own. |
| 993s | No stress. |
| 994s | Right? |
| 994s | Because once you're in a party, I think new people, they stress out a lot. |
| 998s | They're like, oh, what if I mess up? |
| 999s | Yeah. |
| 1000s | Right. |
| 1000s | Yeah. |
| 1000s | It's like a big fear of new people. |
| 1002s | So like, how would you go about like, That was the question I was going to ask. |
| 1005s | I was just like, okay. |
| 1008s | Okay, okay. |
| 1010s | How would you start if you were new to get your foot in the door? |
| 1014s | It sounds like, it sounds like such a plug, but honestly. |
| 1016s | You're gonna say something? |
| 1018s | I kind of had one for it, if you're open for it. |
| 1020s | Well, I got one too. |
| 1021s | So let's hear yours first. |
| 1022s | Well I was going to plug your LFG discord first of all. |
| 1024s | All right. |
| 1024s | There you go. |
| 1025s | Stoopzz and, you know, a bunch of other creators have made that Discord, and I'll let you talk to that in a second. |
| 1030s | But I'll say one thing that I've done personally with my guild and some of the people that I've found playing Lost Ark is our guild, like, advertises, that we're open to accepting new players into the guild and willing to teach any of the raids as long as they're willing to, like, learn and, you know, play with the guild and stuff like that. |
| 1046s | So I think there are a lot of communities and sometimes they can, if you're not that proactive, can be harder to find them. |
| 1052s | But if you're something you're interested in and you want to get into the game, I would say there's a lot of communities that you can find. |
| 1057s | Yeah. |
| 1057s | 100%. |
| 1058s | I mean, I definitely for me as well, like when I started really playing the game, it was your guild and like your friends that I was like, okay, I'm ready to learn. |
| 1067s | And I went into a couple Valtans with just a couple people I knew, like really early on. |
| 1071s | And I was like, okay, I can figure this out, but like, it's a totally different experience playing with people that are like, totally willing to teach you and willing to like, go through those steps with you and like, have fun with it versus kind of going into a PUG. |
| 1084s | So I think that's huge. |
| 1084s | Yeah, it's such a big thing. |
| 1085s | I mean, just to touch on that, we do have the LFG discord. |
| 1088s | But there's so many of those actually in that discord, depending on the region that you're currently in, even though they're going to be merged. |
| 1094s | We have links to other helping discord specifically for your region too. |
| 1099s | But, just how would I go about approaching these situations? |
| 1103s | I think ultimately you have to find a community of people, which that's what makes Lost Ark an MMO. |
| 1108s | It's kind of sometimes the games don't feel like very MMO ish, right? |
| 1110s | Because you're doing a lot of solo solo content. |
| 1112s | But the reality is like having friends in Lost Ark is such an advantage because a lot of the endgame content is group content, so you do have to find people to play with. |
| 1121s | And, you got to find a place where you guys share something in common. |
| 1125s | I, I it's a plug, but I really think Twitch is a great place. |
| 1128s | Obviously there's drops that go off often. |
| 1131s | But you can find people that will easily help you there if you just ask. |
| 1136s | And I think what makes, like having friends in Lost Ark is so OP because it doesn't matter what your class is, what your gear is. |
| 1143s | I have friends that haven't played in a long time. |
| 1144s | When they hop back in their gear is awful, but I'm like yo, like let's let's do Akkan, right? |
| 1149s | And so if you have friends, you don't have to worry so much about, like your character, your engravings, yourgems, your setups, because people are going to help you and most people overgear the content anyway. |
| 1157s | So even just having one person. |
| 1159s | Just having one buddy. |
| 1160s | That you duo with just makes a world of a difference week by week. |
| 1164s | But it makes not only does it give advantage and it's they have a bunch of alt and you can rotate in, not only is it an advantage, but it makes the content way more fun if you've got someone to play with. |
| 1174s | So I know it's hard. |
| 1175s | Like, I know for a lot of people, making friends in games isn't exactly what it used to be. |
| 1179s | Isn't that crazy? |
| 1180s | We play MMOs, and MMOs have just become so antisocial. |
| 1183s | You, youdo all of your raids in a static of people, right? |
| 1188s | Yeah I do most of them like that. |
| 1189s | I think if you're listening, go to Twitch, reach out to a Discord, make that first step. |
| 1194s | And then if you find just one person that can make the whole experience worth it. |
| 1197s | Great. |
| 1198s | So it sounds like right now is a really good time for players to return. |
| 1201s | Well, it's always a good time for players to return, apparently, but with all the progression events, lots of good pieces of advice like finding a community to play with is super helpful. |
| 1210s | I know it was for me. |
| 1212s | And just taking some time to get acclimated to all of the different Legion raids will help you kind of learn the game and figure out you know, how you need to progress and get better, better and better and progress all the way into eventually being able to play Thaemine. |
| 1227s | As most of you probably know, Thaemine is coming out on April 17th. |
| 1232s | With that April update. |
| 1234s | It's not only the legion raid that's going to drop, but there are a couple new other systems in games, that we'll get to, as well as the new balance patch. |
| 1244s | One of those systems coming is the Transcendence system. |
| 1247s | So, Henry, do you want to get a little bit into it, just like a high level of what that is and what players should expect? |
| 1252s | Yeah, for sure. |
| 1253s | I can give a quick like intro to it, but we can talk about it more kind of after Thaemineand maybe some strategies on how to use it through Thaemine. |
| 1260s | But it's a new system for increasing your power level. |
| 1264s | Kind of similar to elixirs in the facet of it's imbuing your gear with more power rather than adding new like gear that you have to hone or new honing systems in that way. |
| 1275s | But it will give a pretty substantial power and defense increase for both attacking and support playstyles. |
| 1282s | Cool. |
| 1283s | So with Thaemine about release, as like the final Legion ran against the final Legion Commander. |
| 1289s | What are some of the things y'all are like most looking forward to, or most excited about, any particular parts of this release? |
| 1296s | I am looking forward to. |
| 1298s | Well, I'm anxiously excited about the raid because I know the raid is really challenging. |
| 1303s | It's very normal pattern heavy. |
| 1305s | And so I got some good advice from my dear friend Saintone. |
| 1310s | And I did an application process. |
| 1311s | We had 67 applicants of those I ended up just picking my friends. |
| 1316s | This is the third time I've told this joke, so you need to laugh at it. |
| 1319s | Rigged! |
| 1319s | Yeah, I rigged it, but it was a rigged process. |
| 1324s | But I had to pick on my friends because, honestly, I just wanted. |
| 1327s | I just wanted to make sure that I enjoyed the experience of being in there, because that is going to be the most challenging Legion raid probably to date. |
| 1335s | And, a lot of people are taking off work for this if they're so seriously trying to clear. |
| 1340s | And, I just want to make sure that the experience is fun. |
| 1344s | Right? |
| 1344s | Most Legion raids you usually clearly in like a day, but obviously we've seen it in other regions. |
| 1348s | It takes sometimes up to like two weeks. |
| 1350s | Right. |
| 1351s | And so if that's the case, I'd rather pick people that I know that I can depend on versus just people that maybe have like the best, the most experience in other content or maybe the best gear possible. |
| 1362s | So I'm looking forward to it for that. |
| 1364s | That's definitely the way to go about it, because like, in my experience, a lot of the groups that recruited for it, they, they didn't end up being able to last because when we when we went through it, we thought it was going to be a raid that was going to be over in like a couple days, right, tops. |
| 1383s | So people would set aside like a couple days off from work and stuff like that, at best. |
| 1388s | And then, you know, five days in my group dismantled because there was like differences and what people wanted to do. |
| 1395s | Some people wanted to go for a top three region clear. |
| 1397s | Some wanted to do like top ten region clear. |
| 1400s | And just that difference just made it really evident that we weren't on the same page when the group formed in the first place. |
| 1405s | And so if you're going to be recruiting for this raid, it is a very challenging raid. |
| 1410s | He is, he is that guy. |
| 1412s | Okay. |
| 1413s | You've seen him since like earlier in the game story. |
| 1417s | All he says is hmm. |
| 1417s | He didn't even say anything. |
| 1418s | And he's menacing. |
| 1419s | And so it's like, find the right people to play with because you you might be in there for a little while just because it's it's challenging. |
| 1427s | It's to tee things off. |
| 1428s | It's the end of the the the Legion commander arc. |
| 1431s | I wanna let you chime in too, because I know that you're going to be doing, the raid as well. |
| 1436s | But I did want to just touch on that, that I have been. |
| 1439s | I mean, me and you started playing the game around the same time, actually, back in the day. |
| 1443s | And I've been looking at that Legion Commander screen, you know, as they add new commanders at the top for so long. |
| 1450s | And I'm, I'm just ready to take on Thaemine, and then kind of just take on a new chapter of Lost Ark. |
| 1457s | It's definitely the end of this chapter. |
| 1459s | And, I'm excited about that. |
| 1461s | I'm nervous for how the encounter is going to go. |
| 1463s | I don't know if I'm going to grief with my group, but uh. |
| 1465s | It's fun though. |
| 1467s | Like, not. |
| 1468s | Not like griefing. |
| 1472s | I mean that is going to be going on. |
| 1472s | The raid though. |
| 1473s | It's just, it's a super different kind of raid. |
| 1476s | Right? |
| 1476s | Maybe some people had some difficulty with Brel because the, the gimmicks were like really challenging and they were very mentally taxing. |
| 1484s | Thaemine is like very different. |
| 1485s | Like, again, I'm not really sure if I can say this, but he's as close to you'll ever get to like a Souls-like, like a Soul-like kind of boss. |
| 1492s | Yeah, it's very normal pattern heavy. |
| 1494s | And you're dependent, you're depending on your teammates to just, like, acclimate to the patterns, dodge them because they're very multilayered. |
| 1501s | They're a lot more complicated than the usual patterns of Lost Ark, but that's what makes it fun. |
| 1506s | He's a physically taxing fight more than mentally taxing. |
| 1510s | I think for you it'll be fun too, because this will be, since you have come back to the game with all the events and everything that's going on, you're having to kind of learn the raids that everyone else already knows. |
| 1518s | But this will be your opportunity to learn alongside other people, right? |
| 1521s | Yeah, yeah. |
| 1523s | To be honest, I'm kind of interested, I'm curious as to how NA/EU going to do with this raid in comparison to like the Korean prog? |
| 1533s | I wasn't following the Korean progress as as you were. |
| 1537s | Like you had like a watch party going on and everything, but, I know it took a while, right? |
| 1542s | Like, I know it was like a big deal. |
| 1544s | And, you know, there's a lot of people right now currently depending on when this video is published. |
| 1549s | But right now, as we're filming, there's a lot of people that are kind of speculating, you know, the Russian teams or the Russian guilds or teams or, you know, the Russian region. |
| 1558s | It took them this long to clear it. |
| 1560s | And, I don't know, obviously our version in the West, a lot of people have guides already. |
| 1567s | You know, ATK is already putting out his guides and whatnot. |
| 1570s | And, yeah. |
| 1572s | Memorizer has some to. |
| 1573s | Yeah, yeah, Memorizer has got another guide. |
| 1574s | I think those are the only two guide so far, and I'm sure there will be other guides as well, but, NA, the West is. |
| 1579s | We need Henry to make some guides. |
| 1580s | I think Henry should definitely bust out some raid guides. |
| 1583s | I think it'd be great, though. |
| 1584s | Michael? |
| 1585s | I don't know, man. |
| 1585s | Guys? |
| 1586s | Official AGS Guides. |
| 1587s | I swear Henry could make some amazing guides, I feel like that's amazing content. |
| 1592s | Well, I actually want to know, too, Henry. |
| 1593s | Yeah, you've talked about, I know you're really excited to go through it, but like, what are your... |
| 1599s | Because Saint was talking about like different people in his like group had different goals. |
| 1604s | Like what are your goals for the raid? |
| 1605s | I don't think I've actually talked to you about this. |
| 1607s | Yeah. |
| 1607s | So I mean, we're obviously talking about the First in a little bit, which is like a whole nother aspect to this. |
| 1614s | My group, we're just going to go right into hard mode, I think, and try that out. |
| 1618s | We're just, you know, focused on clearing it. |
| 1621s | What I do is I try and do, like a semi blind prog. |
| 1624s | Obviously, I need to, like, know a lot about the raid for work and for my job. |
| 1628s | So I'll learn like what it's about, you know, watch some, you know, I've seen Saint play it probably like 5 or 6 times at this point. |
| 1635s | But in terms of the like, I don't memorize all the normal patterns. |
| 1638s | That's the kind of thing that I like to experience blind and feel fresh as I'm going through it. |
| 1642s | So for me, I'm super excited to just like learn all the normal patterns, try and maximize my uptime. |
| 1648s | I think that's just going to make the raid so much so fun is because it is going to be so many normal patterns, right? |
| 1654s | And that's like really the difficulty of the fight. |
| 1656s | You can't really practice that. |
| 1656s | Yeah, you know, reading a guide or watching a guide can only prepare you so much. |
| 1661s | Usually you have to get hit by something before you realize, oh I need to. |
| 1665s | Yeah, yeah, the timing of it with your abilities, and all that stuff. |
| 1668s | I'm also a really greedy player, so I know I'm going to wipe my team a ton of times. |
| 1672s | Yeah. |
| 1672s | So apologies to them if they're watching this video. |
| 1675s | Yeah I think what's cool too is that it's going to be a raid that I do think a lot of players that take advantage of the event can get to like a 1610 and 1630. |
| 1685s | 1630 is definitely a hard item level to reach. |
| 1687s | You have to be an active player playing a lot, but 1610 with the events that we have and all of them going into that, I think, I have a bunch of friends that again, I've convinced like, you know, hop into the game there's an event going on. |
| 1698s | I said, I'll do Thaemine normal with them. |
| 1700s | Yeah. |
| 1700s | And so I'm looking forward to that because it just going to be me and a bunch of my friends, which they're not very good, but neither am I so. |
| 1705s | It's the experience. |
| 1705s | That's what normals are for. |
| 1707s | Yeah, yeah for sure. |
| 1709s | Yeah I'm excited for that. |
| 1710s | Yeah that's my goal. |
| 1711s | Clear, clear hard is I want to do the First eventually. |
| 1715s | I don't know if I'll be racing. |
| 1717s | But I think trying that difficulty eventually. |
| 1719s | The cool thing about the First is it's not an equalized content unlike, unlike Inferno difficulties. |
| 1725s | So, you know, with that power system that you guys brushed on Transcendence as time goes on and you develop that system from just doing normal and hard mode, you'll get stronger. |
| 1736s | And some of the stress and difficulty of doing the First, slowly goes away. |
| 1742s | Just because your group is pushing a lot more damage. |
| 1744s | It can be as hard as you want it, right? |
| 1745s | Yeah. |
| 1745s | The sooner you challenge it, the harder it is. |
| 1748s | And then it can just get to a point where, you know. |
| 1753s | There's like just no DPS check whatsoever. |
| 1755s | Yeah. |
| 1757s | Now, in the Korean version in the game, actually, the First was just an event. |
| 1762s | It only stayed for six months because as time goes on, we're getting introduced to more power systems that are just slowly trivializing it more and more from future raids. |
| 1772s | I don't know if you guys can talk to this, but is the First, also, like a six month or temporary event in the Western version? |
| 1781s | I think that's the current plan. |
| 1782s | We should be able to announce the dates and in like the full release that we do. |
| 1786s | Yeah, I think we will. |
| 1787s | One thing that I can, definitely guarantee is that there is enough time where you don't have to FOMO it. |
| 1795s | Like, if you challenge it in like 4 or 5 months later down the line, you'll have enough time to clear it. |
| 1802s | You know, I've seen all of my friends clear it with enough time and practice. |
| 1808s | So speaking of time to clear it though, it is going to be fun to see all the different regions, EU, NA. |
| 1815s | And there's even a crazy group in South America. |
| 1817s | His name is Kai, he's a Ester 8 Sharpshooter. |
| 1820s | He's huge. |
| 1821s | His group, dude his group is going to be... |
| 1823s | I think they're going to stream it too. |
| 1825s | So that's going to be. |
| 1826s | He's the only Ester 8 sharpshooter that exists. |
| 1828s | I don't know, no one plays that class, but except me, but. |
| 1831s | For now. |
| 1833s | Yeah. |
| 1833s | For now. |
| 1835s | I'm probably switching to Breaker. |
| 1836s | By the time of this recording. |
| 1837s | I may be on a Breaker for Thaemine. |
| 1838s | I'm not sure yet, but. |
| 1841s | Yeah, it's gonna be really fun to see all these people competing. |
| 1843s | So if you do want to tune in, I think that'll be a fun watch. |
| 1845s | Yeah we can get into that a little bit. |
| 1847s | Sure. |
| 1847s | The Thaemine the first race will actually be starting three days after the April update. |
| 1853s | So it's gonna start on Saturday, April 20th. |
| 1857s | One thing too, I like that you touched on is like seeing all the different regions compete. |
| 1861s | It's going to open at the same time globally, which is 10 a.m. |
| 1864s | PT, 5 p.m. |
| 1866s | UTC. |
| 1866s | You can convert that to wherever you are in the world. |
| 1870s | So we're going to have kind of global, well, global in the West leaderboards, to kind of follow along and see who really is like the first group that is going to clear and where they're from. |
| 1880s | And then, of course, players in each region, those top ten kind of groups will get their own like per region, rewards in game. |
| 1888s | But yeah, having that kind of moment where all the players in the West are going to come out and compete for that kind of those top spots, I think is going to be really, really exciting to watch. |
| 1899s | Well, a few questions on that. |
| 1900s | So the First, literally the mode it's it opens a few days after the patch? |
| 1905s | Yes. |
| 1907s | Yeah, the reason for that is in the western version you have to clear hard mode before you're eligible to clear the First. |
| 1913s | That happened in Russia too. |
| 1915s | Yeah, that was unique. |
| 1917s | And then the rewards in in Korea, the the first place team, they ended up getting special emotes made of the party members. |
| 1930s | Is there similar rewards for Western players if, should they, you know, be able to challenge and get that position? |
| 1935s | So there will be like the top tier rewards that are the in-game stuff, the titles, the stronghold structures. |
| 1943s | I can probably throw it to Roxx, we're planning on doing, an emote competition to add new emotes into the game. |
| 1949s | But you know, in Korea it was obviously like it had that extra layer of the prog and kind of immortalizing those players, right? |
| 1956s | Because it's not that exact same experience we wanted to open that up to the whole community. |
| 1960s | That's cool though. |
| 1960s | That's going to be another emote contest. |
| 1963s | Yeah. |
| 1963s | At the time of this video, that will already be ongoing. |
| 1966s | Really? |
| 1966s | Yeah. |
| 1966s | I tried getting some in there last time. |
| 1970s | None of them popped up. |
| 1973s | None of those. |
| 1975s | Yeah, it'll be cool to do that. |
| 1976s | And we know it's not exactly the same as kind of having those characters immortalized, but. |
| 1979s | No, I think we all. |
| 1980s | It's good. |
| 1981s | The cool thing is we actually all use the Western emotes there. |
| 1984s | So. |
| 1985s | It's really good. |
| 1986s | They're really. |
| 1987s | Yeah. |
| 1987s | Genuinely, like I know this based on data from our BI team, they are all the top used emotes in the game in the West. |
| 1993s | Yeah. |
| 1994s | Can you, can you say the most used one is it Stare? |
| 1996s | Stare has to be it. |
| 1997s | That's my top one for sure. |
| 2000s | Dude you sent me that in a DM. |
| 2001s | I DMed you, you responded with Stare. |
| 2004s | I actually don't remember off the top of my head. |
| 2008s | The Shy one is pretty popular too. |
| 2009s | I was going to say, I think it's either the Shy one or the Stare. |
| 2013s | Jail is probably used quite a bit. |
| 2017s | Maybe with you Stoopzz. |
| 2017s | I don't know, it's kind of weird. |
| 2018s | I don't know what's going on. |
| 2019s | Everyone just uses it in my parties, not sure why. |
| 2021s | They do it on purpose. |
| 2022s | Yeah. |
| 2022s | But yeah, that'll give players a cool opportunity to kind of, create something to come out at the same time and they won't be quite ready to use, you know, in those first clears. |
| 2033s | But to have a lot going at the same time when a lot of people are kind of back to the game and excited about it. |
| 2038s | Yeah. |
| 2038s | And the ones in Korea, they had like a lot of cool different ones and different styles. |
| 2042s | Our last emote competition was Mokoko focused. |
| 2045s | This one's going to be on all the characters in Lost Ark. |
| 2048s | Oh that's cool. |
| 2050s | If people want to have things that are like, you know, maybe a meme with some of the characters that aren't just Mokokos. |
| 2053s | We can have Thaemine emotes, and that's going to be sick. |
| 2056s | Yeah. |
| 2057s | That's great. |
| 2058s | This is good news. |
| 2059s | Echidna emotes? |
| 2060s | Too soon? |
| 2060s | Probably too soon. |
| 2063s | She's... |
| 2063s | we'll see. |
| 2063s | We'll see what people come up. |
| 2064s | Yeah. |
| 2065s | With all the NPCs, Mokokos are also welcome because we're not gonna say no. |
| 2067s | Community voted right? |
| 2068s | Yeah. |
| 2068s | Yeah, we'll select the finalists. |
| 2073s | But yeah, it'll be really great to get those in the game as kind of an exciting thing going on at the same time as well. |
| 2078s | I think, I think, are you going to what is your plan for that? |
| 2082s | Actually, just to kick it back to the first thing, because I think I'm going to go for it. |
| 2086s | For Hard or Thaemine the First? |
| 2088s | Well, maybe for hard mode and depending on how bad it is and which, which or how hard it is at least, and how my friends hold up and shape up and yeah, and how much time they can take off work. |
| 2097s | Maybe. |
| 2099s | I'll probably try it, you know what I mean? |
| 2102s | I don't know, we'll see how it goes. |
| 2103s | Are you going to try the First mode? |
| 2106s | I think I'm in the same boat as you. |
| 2107s | Just see how it goes? |
| 2108s | My expectations. |
| 2110s | Like, I don't have super high expectations, but, I mean, you know me personally. |
| 2113s | What do you mean by that? |
| 2113s | Well, like, I'm not, it's I'm not going into this thinking, okay I'm trying to get first place here. |
| 2120s | Yeah. |
| 2120s | We're going to try to do the best we can. |
| 2124s | I'm not going for that either. |
| 2124s | We're not going for the first clear. |
| 2125s | I'm just saying. |
| 2125s | I'm just going to have a good time. |
| 2127s | Like me and my group, like, we're still trying to form a group. |
| 2130s | I think we got about half our party done. |
| 2132s | I'm going in with a couple other content creators, who are also returning. |
| 2138s | We're pretty excited about doing it. |
| 2140s | That's going to be fun to watch. |
| 2141s | Yeah, yeah. |
| 2142s | When you're progging on content, do you listen to your own music or do you listen to the in-game music? |
| 2147s | Depends on the music. |
| 2148s | I listen to in-game music. |
| 2149s | That's a dangerous call for Thaemine. |
| 2150s | If it's ten, if it's ten hours of opera, you're gonna you're gonna need ten hours of opera? |
| 2154s | I did it for Brel. |
| 2158s | Phantom opera. |
| 2158s | That's Brel. |
| 2158s | That song is hard for me. |
| 2162s | Brel's OST is GOATed. |
| 2163s | It's a amazing. |
| 2164s | Thaemine's OST is really good. |
| 2165s | But yeah, it does induce a certain sleepiness after a certain amount of time. |
| 2169s | My favorite is Akkan though. |
| 2171s | The like, heavy metal. |
| 2172s | That's so sick. |
| 2172s | Akkan's is sick. |
| 2172s | Incredible. |
| 2173s | I enjoyed that one a lot. |
| 2174s | Clown I actually got. |
| 2178s | When progged Clown for the first time. |
| 2180s | I remember laying in bed and hearing cloud music. |
| 2183s | I'm not kidding. |
| 2184s | It was me. |
| 2185s | BardBard and Newky, were in there for. |
| 2187s | On RU? |
| 2189s | On RU at the time when I first started playing the game and yeah, I was literally hearing clown music and I woke up like HUH. |
| 2194s | Like it was bad. |
| 2195s | I'm like, it was bad. |
| 2196s | Ready to dodge the saw coming at you? |
| 2199s | It's easier nowadays though. |
| 2200s | They made some changes to it. |
| 2201s | The way the saws don't. |
| 2202s | I actually tested that. |
| 2203s | I ran through a few of the saws. |
| 2205s | Yeah, they still killed me but. |
| 2206s | But all right, so we talked a lot about like playing with your friends in that kind of team comp in terms of like actual game mechanics Saint, obviously you've played the raid a ton. |
| 2215s | Are there any things that for people that are still looking to form their parties that you might recommend, like in terms of like stagger output, weak point, you know, the like all the key mechs in the game? |
| 2224s | So the raid itself, in in the second gate, there is actually a mechanic where everybody needs to counter. |
| 2232s | But outside of that, it's kind of weird because some gates, like, you don't need a counter at all, and then there's some gates where it's like super important. |
| 2240s | And then like, as far as, like stagger and all that kind of stuff goes, like here and there it's useful. |
| 2245s | I would say that the most useful thing, though, is. |
| 2250s | Try to pay attention to your defense as you go into the raid, because since the patterns are so multi-layered, when you're learning the raid, it's kind of hard to avoid like everything. |
| 2262s | You might think a pattern is over. |
| 2265s | It's got like 2 or 3 more swings in it. |
| 2267s | You get hit and then Thaemine, he hits really hard. |
| 2270s | So like a war of attrition? |
| 2271s | Yeah. |
| 2272s | It's actually like a like a slugfest. |
| 2275s | Like you're slapping him. |
| 2276s | He's slapping you back. |
| 2278s | Yeah. |
| 2278s | And so, having a little bit of extra defense is actually pretty useful because if you die because, you know, you're sitting on, like, let's say like 110,000 HP and you think you're safe, and then boom, he hits you and then all your HP is gone because you're playing a squishy class. |
| 2295s | It's kind of hard to carry on without you because while the DPS checks aren't that bad in Thaemine a dead DPS doesn't do DPS. |
| 2302s | Yeah. |
| 2302s | And so if the pull has to reset because, you know, you got nuked, it can be tough if it's early on because, you know, these pulls are really long. |
| 2312s | And so one of my recommendations is, try to pay attention to your defense. |
| 2317s | The quality of your armor is having a bit more HP. |
| 2320s | In Korea, what a lot of people did for progging is, for the last gate, they took Ether Predator in place of, like a weaker AP engraving, like Cursed Doll or something. |
| 2332s | Just because that extra defense is nice and it doesn't take that long to stack, you know, three, four minutes to stack it all the way to 30 stacks. |
| 2339s | But the fight is, like 20 plus minutes long, it's like, that's a pretty good trade off. |
| 2343s | If it means that, like a potentially field pull can keep going because you survive something that would otherwise kill you. |
| 2349s | I remember people were doing that. |
| 2351s | And if not Ether Predator, there's like other options like, if like with your elixirs on the chest piece, there's a special option for defense. |
| 2359s | I'm rocking one of those. |
| 2360s | Yeah. |
| 2361s | It's actually really good. |
| 2362s | I've heard a lot of supports do like a Crisis nvasion plus one. |
| 2365s | Yeah they definitely have to bring that. |
| 2366s | This is the first raid, I would say in a very, if not ever, where supports can actually be threatened just as much as a DPS. |
| 2374s | Yeah. |
| 2375s | If not because of gravity death, then because just the raw damage output from the boss is so high. |
| 2380s | Your job is to live, you know, as a support. |
| 2382s | You have to make sure you're alive. |
| 2384s | This is definitely a raid where like if the support goes down, the DPSes are really, they're really at the mercy of the boss. |
| 2391s | And so I think just having a little bit of extra defense would just go a long way. |
| 2395s | I know having like upgrading the weapon is cool. |
| 2397s | I love spending a few million gold just for 1% damage increase. |
| 2400s | It's awesome yeah. |
| 2401s | But also there has been some information going around about a hidden mechanic called the Defense Gate and and it's just this really obscure mechanic. |
| 2410s | Basically, the more you upgrade your armor, the the less damage you take. |
| 2414s | Everyone already knows that. |
| 2415s | But then there's like a hidden extra damage that you take and it's, it's been in the game since forever. |
| 2421s | Thaemine has it too, but I wouldn't focus too much on it. |
| 2424s | It's not actually that relevant. |
| 2426s | Just, you know. |
| 2427s | He's referring to your armor pieces. |
| 2430s | Yeah. |
| 2430s | You don't need your armor to be at a specific amount, but. |
| 2436s | Just. |
| 2436s | If you're a squishier class, try to have some form of defense in there and I think it'll help you a lot during your prog. |
| 2442s | Are there any like, tips for supports that you would say other than, you know, stay alive? |
| 2446s | Don't die. |
| 2448s | How to best like keep your teammates alive? |
| 2451s | I can at least comment on what we're having our supports do, I guess, because obviously I haven't been in the raid yet. |
| 2457s | This is going to be the first Legion raid that I haven't done ahead of time, by the way. |
| 2461s | So this is going to be my first going into Thaemine. |
| 2463s | I specifically didn't want to spoil this one. |
| 2467s | I think just one of the things is that as a support, you're really used to just., you know, keeping up your brand, your AP buff. |
| 2477s | But a lot of the time, there's not many opportunities to DR, or damage reduction and like farm content when you're going through like your weeklies because no one's taking a ton of damage. |
| 2490s | But in this raid, it's going to be really important to make sure that you DR certain patterns if you can help. |
| 2495s | So doing Hell Mode content, if possible, if you have some friends or going in with their group can really help with that because the bosses just do a lot more damage. |
| 2502s | And so there are patterns that you can just practice DRing and getting closer with your support. |
| 2506s | So if you got a group of friends bringing them into hell mode, I think will be beneficial for them to learn how to DR more often. |
| 2513s | Because again, it's kind of a maybe you're using a just for gauge or just trying to go through your cycles as fast as possible to go through the content as fast as possible. |
| 2520s | But having more effective DRs, I think will be helpful, at least for this raid. |
| 2523s | And then Saint you also mentioned earlier just talking about like how Transcendence will help with the First difficulty, just even as people are playing through kind of normal and hard, are there any like strats that you would recommend for what players should look for first, as they're trying to upgrade and use that system? |
| 2540s | Transcendence is... |
| 2543s | It takes a while for the actual benefits of transcendence to kick in. |
| 2547s | So the first few weeks you're not really going to get much out of it. |
| 2551s | By the end of the system, it offers like a good, like 16 to 19% additional damage and then for supports and makes your buff potency a lot stronger, even more so than elixirs. |
| 2563s | Yeah. |
| 2563s | And so there's a lot of power to be gained there, but you won't really notice it for quite a while, so I wouldn't rely on that for sure. |
| 2571s | Okay. |
| 2572s | I want... |
| 2572s | this is like so out there. |
| 2575s | But like I do know I think it took, obviously was totally blind in Korea when it came out, but around two weeks or so it took some time in Russia. |
| 2583s | I just want everybody's like guess for how long they think. |
| 2587s | I don't know, how fast you're going to clear hard mode. |
| 2588s | I think there's a I think there is a group. |
| 2591s | I was actually going to ask that earlier. |
| 2592s | Or how fast someone might clear Thaemine the First. |
| 2593s | I think there is a group. |
| 2595s | Well, I think getting hard mode in and the First in one week is going to be really hard to do. |
| 2602s | I do 100% believe there's teams on a couple of the regions that we'll do hard mode week one, but you have to wait the three days right to start the First right? |
| 2612s | So they can't hop into it right away. |
| 2615s | An they have to clear hard first. |
| 2616s | Yes. |
| 2616s | Yeah. |
| 2616s | So I mean, you know, three days to do hards is already kind of challenging, but let's say they're able to get through it quickly, but doesn't give them a ton of time to get through the First. |
| 2623s | And just based on what I've seen elsewhere, the first mode still takes even after you cleared hard mode, it still takes. |
| 2631s | Even though it's similar a similar fight, it's still it takes a little bit extra time. |
| 2636s | Just because you don't get to reset your potions in gate four, and obviously the damage checks are a bit higher, so you can't really lose anyone either. |
| 2643s | So I don't know. |
| 2644s | I think it's possible to see week one on our region. |
| 2647s | Is that for the first or for hard mode? |
| 2650s | For sure. |
| 2650s | Hard mode. |
| 2651s | I think we'll see some clears. |
| 2652s | Yeah. |
| 2652s | The first I think it's possible. |
| 2655s | But if not, I think ten. |
| 2656s | My prediction is ten days. |
| 2659s | What about you, Saint? |
| 2659s | I want to know because you were like, in it. |
| 2661s | In Korea. |
| 2661s | I'm really curious because this April, I mean, last time this goes up, it'll it will be April, but, in the Korean region, Smilegate mentioned that after the first goes away in Korea, they would apply additional nerfs to, to hard mode and normal mode. |
| 2683s | And I'm curious what the timing of that will be if people will actually be able to experience that, or if he'll just come later on, like way later down the line. |
| 2693s | But overall I do. |
| 2695s | Yeah, 100%. |
| 2696s | I think hard mode will be cleared in the first week. |
| 2699s | There's a lot of people that are taking it very seriously that are like studying the fight very in-depth. |
| 2706s | Some of them have even had some experience in the raid already, which will help a lot. |
| 2711s | But, unless you, like, assemble like a full group of people that have experienced the fight, you're only as strong as your weakest link in that fight because it's just like, you know, it just takes a while for everyone to learn the patterns. |
| 2725s | And so I 100% hard mode first week and then as far as the First goes, maybe by the end of the first week it might be possible just depending on like what kind of groups are forming. |
| 2737s | But otherwise for most people that are really serious, second or third week. |
| 2741s | Do you think that the, because we'll be getting the recent Korean balance changes that weren't in when you guys cleared Thaemine. |
| 2749s | Oh those will help. |
| 2749s | So you think that will impact that? |
| 2753s | Yeah. |
| 2753s | I know mages win big fo sure. |
| 2756s | Mages suffered big time in that raid that, Summoners, Sorceresses, even Arcanist, to a degree had a pretty tough time. |
| 2763s | But after the most recent balance patch, all three of those can actually excel pretty well in that raid. |
| 2769s | Between that and then the lower spacebar cooldowns. |
| 2773s | Having extra mobility to save you in a pinch is so big as well. |
| 2776s | And then there was. |
| 2777s | There's defense coefficient upgrades too right? |
| 2779s | There's defense coefficient that's also massive. |
| 2781s | And then even like the existence of like Breaker for those for those who are able to raise it high enough or even. |
| 2788s | Just, just this guy. |
| 2789s | Like this guy. |
| 2790s | Yeah. |
| 2791s | It's not just me. |
| 2791s | There's other people out there, but it might be me. |
| 2793s | I might be out there. |
| 2794s | He might. |
| 2794s | He's bringing a breaker too. |
| 2795s | I got a Breaker man. |
| 2796s | Yeah. |
| 2797s | And then the other, other classes are really strong too. |
| 2800s | For, like. |
| 2801s | Like like Deathblade is super strong. |
| 2803s | We have two in our party. |
| 2804s | It's a, it's a really positional friendly fight overall. |
| 2807s | Especially if you're playing a back attacker that you'll, you'll be surprised that these like higher ceiling classes that typically have a hard time against bosses that turn around a lot can can really make a huge difference after all these balance patches in terms of because, you know, the shorter the fight is, the less patterns you see, the less likely someone's going to die. |
| 2825s | If the fight drags on and you know, you're worried that 1 in 8 people might accidentally slip up somewhere. |
| 2831s | I feel like the person going around with the trash cans like is a mechanic. |
| 2834s | Like an extra hidden raid mechanic in this fight. |
| 2836s | So it's like something to work around. |
| 2838s | What if it's a security guard and he's just messing with it? |
| 2840s | I mean, it seems like it. |
| 2843s | All right. |
| 2844s | Well, I feel like we've covered quite a lot. |
| 2846s | Okay. |
| 2846s | Kind of in summary, you know, there's a lot of great progression events right now. |
| 2851s | Pretty easy to get up to speed, potentially, and ready fo Thaemine. |
| 2856s | Might take a little while to be able to clear, especially with Hard mode, especially especially with the First race at that original super challenging difficulty. |
| 2867s | But I think we got a lot of really good kind of tips and insight on how you can do that. |
| 2870s | But I think ultimately everyone kind of agreed, you know, you just kind of go in and get bapped until you figure it out. |
| 2876s | Yeah, anyone can do it. |
| 2877s | There's things you can do, some good tips on defense and guides and whatnot, but you know, you're not going to know until you're in there. |
| 2884s | Trust me, if you're watching this. |
| 2885s | People beat Dark Souls on the DK 64 drums. |
| 2889s | You can beat Thaemine. |
| 2891s | I couldn't beat it without a controller. |
| 2893s | I will say. |
| 2895s | Yeah. |
| 2895s | If you haven't played the game in a while, there's like 6 or 7 events going on. |
| 2898s | Henry hooked us up. |
| 2899s | Wait, what? |
| 2900s | There's there's tons of stuff to do in the game right now. |
| 2903s | And on top of that. |
| 2907s | It's been like. |
| 2909s | it's been like two years. |
| 2910s | We had our anniversary. |
| 2911s | It's been two years. |
| 2912s | I never thought we'd be here at Thaemine, done with the Legion commander raids. |
| 2916s | So I think it's cool that we're all still here and you're still playing the game. |
| 2919s | Shout out to you. |
| 2919s | It's a really exciting time, I think. |
| 2921s | Yeah. |
| 2921s | And you could definitely doThaemine, at least Normal as a new player. |
| 2926s | You could be like hey I'm hopping into the game today. |
| 2927s | I literally started, I don't know when this is going to go out, but from today's current date, I started. |
| 2933s | How long has it been like two weeks or something? |
| 2935s | I think to a week or two since I've been back and I am pushing a Breaker, which is essentially a brand new naked character. |
| 2942s | I do have my cards and the horizontal and I will defnitely be. |
| 2945s | And they buffed the cards too. |
| 2947s | They're actually up all the time. |
| 2948s | Super exciting time to play the game if you haven't played in a while. |
| 2950s | I think right now is actually a great time. |
| 2952s | You could absolutely do Thaemine. |
| 2954s | Yeah for sure. |
| 2955s | And yeah, as a reminder, that raid is going to launch on April 17th and the race will begin on April 20th. |
| 2961s | So I'm really excited to see, watch you all play. |
| 2964s | Henry's probably going to take some time off to play as well. |
| 2968s | We'll see. |
| 2968s | This is also my first time hearing the date. |
| 2970s | This guy still won't tell me the date. |
| 2972s | So like just saying. |
| 2973s | Really? |
| 2974s | Stoopzz has known for weeks. |
| 2975s | Bro. |
| 2975s | I mean have not. |
| 2977s | Wait, that's a lie. |
| 2979s | This is why, see? |
| 2979s | This is why I get so many comments. |
| 2980s | I would like to keep my job. |
| 2982s | I don't know why that's so shocking. |
| 2983s | So I'm just saying, like. |
| 2985s | That's crazy, man. |
| 2986s | I haven't played in a long. |
| 2987s | I haven't been in the game for a while. |
| 2987s | I'm trying to take off time for the raid, you know, I'm trying to take my time away from my job to do the raid, which my job is also just to play the game so. |
| 2993s | Well everyone should know by now, the dates. |
| 2995s | 17th. |
| 2996s | 17th and First on the 20th. |
| 2998s | All right, exciting time. |
| 2999s | Wait. |
| 3000s | Hold on. |
| 3000s | When will the public actually know? |
| 3002s | Do we have to like? |
| 3003s | They'll probably have by this video. |
| 3004s | It'll be out long before this video. |
| 3005s | Isn't this video coming out like way later? |
| 3007s | Yeah. |
| 3008s | No, they'll know before that. |
| 3008s | So we okay. |
| 3009s | Yeah. |
| 3010s | This is not the first time they'll hear it. |
| 3010s | So when we stream tomorrow, we still don't know. |
| 3012s | You better not. |
| 3013s | Okay. |
| 3014s | Sir. |
| 3015s | Please do not share this. |
| 3019s | This is that inside information. |
| 3020s | I'm don't I can't win here because I'm like, guys I think it's going to be the 17th. |
| 3024s | Like, oh, you know, and then I and then I'm like. |
| 3026s | Well now you do know. |
| 3026s | Just don't answer the question. |
| 3027s | But then I tell Henry's in my chat or Tom's in my chat and I'm like, tell them I don't know. |
| 3032s | And they're like, he knows. |
| 3032s | And then they just, I have to do it. |
| 3036s | They're gonna write "sure." Well stop doing that. |
| 3037s | I mean, it's just crazy. |
| 3039s | I can't win here. |
| 3041s | Well you're not win Thaemine You can win the race. |
| 3043s | the First either. |
| 3044s | Oh I just said he can't win the race. |
| 3046s | That's definitely not going to happen. |
| 3047s | It sounds like we're about to end here, but question. |
| 3049s | Saint, how long do you think it takes Stoopzz's group to finish? |
| 3055s | Oh. |
| 3055s | Thaemine Hard. |
| 3056s | Listen, I'm just saying, like, honest. |
| 3058s | We live in, hold on. |
| 3059s | Hard? |
| 3059s | Or the first? |
| 3060s | We live. |
| 3061s | Let's go with hard. |
| 3061s | We live in the same household. |
| 3063s | I'm going to be there coaching them. |
| 3065s | Yeah. |
| 3065s | That's right. |
| 3066s | Hit the boss! |
| 3072s | With Saint's help... |
| 3072s | with Saint's help probably, two weeks. |
| 3076s | Two days? |
| 3077s | Nice. |
| 3077s | Good, good answer. |
| 3079s | See, this is why he's my roommate. |
| 3080s | Yeah. |
| 3080s | There you go. |
| 3080s | There it is. |
| 3081s | It's pretty good. |
| 3082s | Good answer. |
| 3083s | Two days. |
| 3084s | Sure. |
| 3085s | How long do think it'll take you Henry? |
| 3087s | So I think my group usually like we prog mostly on the weekend. |
| 3093s | So our goal is to finish it by weekly reset. |
| 3096s | I'm guessing it'll take us probably four, maybe 3 or 4 days. |
| 3099s | 3 or 4 days, sir? |
| 3101s | For hard? |
| 3103s | I mean. |
| 3104s | What version we're getting, I don't know, but if we get, depending what we get. |
| 3108s | One day longer than you? |
| 3110s | That's not that bad. |
| 3110s | He said two days is crazy. |
| 3111s | He's just lying. |
| 3112s | That's not real. |
| 3113s | You don't think so? |
| 3114s | He's being modest. |
| 3116s | Here's a better question. |
| 3117s | That. |
| 3118s | I thought you said you just picked all the juicers from your chat. |
| 3121s | You have, like. |
| 3121s | I picked friends. |
| 3122s | The power of friendship, sir. |
| 3123s | I did not pick all the juicers. |
| 3124s | The friendly juicers. |
| 3125s | The bot is there, right? |
| 3126s | No. |
| 3127s | That's right. |
| 3127s | It's good they heard it. |
| 3130s | How long do you think it'll take this guy to clear the raid? |
| 3132s | Well, to be fair. |
| 3133s | No no no no I'm passing it back onto him. |
| 3135s | He doesn't know my group. |
| 3135s | Why is this all getting put on me, first of all? |
| 3139s | You're the only one that's cleared it. |
| 3140s | You've cleared it, yeah. |
| 3141s | True, true. |
| 3143s | But Saint has no idea what... |
| 3144s | No. |
| 3144s | Look at him in his eyes. |
| 3145s | Look at his eyes. |
| 3147s | Three days? |
| 3147s | Four days? |
| 3148s | Does he have what it takes, Saint? |
| 3149s | Three months? |
| 3150s | Four months? |
| 3150s | Listen, look, I just. |
| 3151s | Well, actually, we can't play. |
| 3152s | That's an Amazon Game. |
| 3152s | I just took the castle in Throne. |
| 3152s | We're bullying the,we're just. |
| 3154s | bullying the Mokoko. |
| 3157s | We're bullying the Mokoko, right? |
| 3159s | I feel like it's. |
| 3160s | You confident in your group? |
| 3162s | Do you know who all your? |
| 3163s | I don't have a group yet like we have half our group. |
| 3165s | Kanon, three months. |
| 3168s | Kanon's been progging so many raids. |
| 3169s | He has like a lot more progging, recent prog experience. |
| 3171s | That's true. |
| 3171s | To be fair. |
| 3172s | He might be a quicker learner than the rest of us at this point. |
| 3175s | Me playing breaker. |
| 3176s | The fact that I'm like progging, these raids, I'm getting more practice. |
| 3180s | That's true. |
| 3181s | I'm getting a lot of practice as Breaker right now. |
| 3183s | That's not false. |
| 3183s | And I'm playing Brawl King Fist Storm Rain Tornado. |
| 3187s | Brawl King Storm, sir. |
| 3190s | The BKS. |
| 3191s | The the BK yeah, yeah. |
| 3192s | We can't say that other word. |
| 3193s | You got to play sure of that. |
| 3194s | Yeah. |
| 3195s | Well, if I had to put my money on someone at this table it'll be Henry. |
| 3198s | What is going on? |
| 3200s | This is this is carrying over from the Debate Club. |
| 3204s | Because you're still roasting me. |
| 3205s | No he's just very determined! |
| 3206s | But why is that a roast? |
| 3208s | You don't believe in me, Stoopzz? |
| 3209s | It's a compliment to Henry. |
| 3210s | You said you wanted me to do Henry guides. |
| 3213s | And now you don't even. |
| 3214s | You don't even. |
| 3214s | That should happen. |
| 3215s | You don't even think I can clar Thaemine. |
| 3218s | I think every Mokoko should learn from Henry it'd be great content. |
| 3221s | I would watch all those guides. |
| 3222s | Well, I am really excited to, like, kind of watch everyone get into the raid once you're all streaming and it comes out. |
| 3227s | Thanks for joining us today. |
| 3228s | I really appreciate having you, again as we sign off here. |
| 3232s | I'm Roxx. |
| 3234s | This is... |
| 3235s | I have Saint, Stoopzz, Henry, Kanon with me. |
| 3238s | I figured if I let you guys go around the table, it would get, like, silent and awkward. |
| 3242s | So I just said your names for you. |
| 3243s | Thank you. |
| 3244s | Good outro. |
| 3245s | To the players at home. |
| 3246s | Definitely be sure to let us know what you thought of this video. |
| 3248s | Be sure to comment, like, subscribe! |
| 3250s | We've never really done anything like this before, this kind of style. |
| 3253s | So we're curious to know. |
| 3253s | Like the video, please. |
| 3254s | Subscribe! |
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| 3256s | He asked very nicely. |
| 3257s | Yeah, we're really curious to know what you think and kind of let us know what your plans are for Thaemine as well in the comments. |
| 3264s | All right. |
| 3265s | We'll see you in Arkesia! |
| 3269s | The jazz hands. |
| 3270s | I forgot about that. |
| 3271s | Oh. |
| 3271s | The throwback. |
| 3272s | I was just double waving. |
| 3273s | I mean, you did it. |
| 3274s | I was like, oh, the throwback. |