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| 7s | Coming to you from the Amazon Games Community Team, it's the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club! |
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| 13s | With your host, straight out of the rocks box, it's Roxx! |
| 22s | Welcome to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club. |
| 25s | This is where our contestants debate to prove they have what it takes not to be a Mokoko. |
| 30s | I'm Roxx and I'm here to make sure that DatModz doesn't show up in clown makeup. |
| 35s | Right, Mokoko? |
| 36s | That wig was ratty. |
| 37s | It sure was. |
| 39s | All right, let's get into it and bring out our first contestant. |
| 42s | Here is Stoopzz. |
| 44s | Yeah. |
| 45s | Vote for me in the finale! |
| 48s | Next up, we have Grenton. |
| 54s | Next, we're bringing out Bobajenny. |
| 59s | And finally, last but not least, DatModz. |
| 63s | Where are you going? |
| 63s | Wrong way, buddy. |
| 64s | Oh. |
| 67s | There he is, the man himself. |
| 70s | Now that everyone is here, let's get into our two versus two warm-up debate. |
| 74s | The teams are the people on the bongos, the people behind the rock. |
| 77s | I think you know that by now. |
| 78s | For today's topic, and I'm going to make you decide who you're choosing before I let you strategize, which Sidereal would be the coolest to spend the day hanging out with? |
| 93s | They didn't even talk. |
| 93s | They just agreed. |
| 94s | That was incredible. |
| 97s | Same brain cells. |
| 98s | Just the one shared brain cell putting in the work. |
| 101s | All right, you two - what is your topic? |
| 103s | Kadan. |
| 105s | Okay, you two. |
| 108s | Balthorr. |
| 108s | All right, I'll give you all a minute to strategize or do whatever weird psychic s%#^ you were doing before. |
| 114s | Okay. |
| 116s | He is a Sidereal, but he doesn't... |
| 119s | Mm hmm. |
| 119s | You already know about that. |
| 121s | Kadan, no one knows anything about that guy. |
| 123s | He's actually a big, mysterious esther. |
| 125s | So all season long, we've been listening to the debaters share their arguments, share their opinions. |
| 129s | And honestly, I'm kind of sick of it. |
| 131s | I wouldn't say that to them or my director, but I'll say it to you guys. |
| 136s | I think I'm ready for some cold, hard facts about Lost Ark. |
| 138s | And luckily, I have just the person that can share some of those with us. |
| 143s | Greetings, foolish uninformed one. |
| 145s | I am Ryan, barrer of knowledge. |
| 147s | Okay. |
| 148s | Ouch. |
| 148s | But like, what do you - what do you do? |
| 150s | Tell us what you do. |
| 151s | Well, my team, Business Intelligence, we manage all of the data that comes in and out of Lost Ark. |
| 159s | Okay, all of the data. |
| 161s | What kind of data comes in and out of Lost Ark? |
| 164s | Everything from when players are logged in, from what items they've collected, how much damage they've done. |
| 172s | We know we have tracked every single one of the 6.8 billion tier one gems that people have collected out of Chaos Dungeons recently. |
| 182s | We know whether you succeeded or failed. |
| 184s | We know who you did it with. |
| 185s | We know everything. |
| 188s | That's not concerning at all. |
| 190s | Can you share some of those numbers and everything you know with us? |
| 194s | Did you know that the Artist is the class that has been deleted the least? |
| 199s | No regrets with the Artist. |
| 200s | No regrets. |
| 201s | She's a great support. |
| 202s | The most important emote in Lost Ark appears to be thumbs up, followed by the Let's Play emote. |
| 210s | Understandable. |
| 212s | And it says here that 750 million Mokoko seeds have been gathered by players. |
| 218s | That's a lot of unborn Mokokos. |
| 221s | Well, what else does a questionable mushroom tell you? |
| 226s | We got about 3.5 million ignea tokens have been earned across the board from players. |
| 231s | And it seems that well, I found where all of our silvers went. |
| 235s | Somewhere in the ballpark of about 200 billion silver has been spent on triports. |
| 240s | That's a lot of money going straight to the Arkesian government. |
| 243s | Yeah, it's it's pretty much the heftiest tax on the island. |
| 247s | Second. |
| 248s | Second, of course, to honing. Lot of honing rate issues, but here we see that actually 60% of all hones throughout Lost Ark's history have in fact been successful. |
| 258s | And now we can tell that to all the people who swear it's rigged. |
| 261s | Right? |
| 262s | 1.6 million players have fallen. |
| 266s | And that's kind of a lot. |
| 269s | It is. |
| 270s | But, you know, everybody's doing their part, such as this one player here who it says has died 46,900 times. |
| 280s | One person? |
| 282s | One player. |
| 282s | He's really doing his part. |
| 284s | There is a point where failure becomes success and at this point he is succeeding. |
| 287s | Yeah. And now you're number one. |
| 288s | Look at that. |
| 289s | You can do anything. |
| 290s | And that's, well, not our motto at the Debate Club, but it should be You can do anything. |
| 294s | About something a little bit less painfu?. |
| 298s | People seem to have preferences and their aliases on the island. |
| 302s | And we found that Destroyers kind of followed a pattern. |
| 306s | About 3% of all Destroyers created have "bonk" in their name, which is only matched by Artists, which - about 2% of them - decided to have "Ayaya" in their name. |
| 317s | No creativity. |
| 318s | But I respect that. |
| 319s | You know, that's a lot of good player choices. |
| 322s | But yeah, that all sounds great. |
| 324s | Thankful for Business Intelligence. |
| 328s | I must go. |
| 329s | The shrooms need me. |
| 331s | It's like everyone is about ready to get into it. |
| 333s | So, debaters, whenever you are ready, start fighting. |
| 336s | Okay. |
| 337s | Mr. |
| 337s | Modz, I know you like Balthorr. |
| 339s | Yeah. |
| 339s | You share the same beard with him. |
| 342s | I understand why you picked him, okay. |
| 343s | But Kadan is the one Esther that no one knows anything about. |
| 347s | You get to build a rapport with all of the other ones in the game. |
| 350s | So if I'm going to spend one day with somebody, I want to spend it with Kadan to find out more about who he is. |
| 356s | Every time the guy comes out, he has the best cut scenes, the best music, the best hair line. |
| 362s | And we know he's the strongest one. |
| 363s | He's the big mystery of Lost Ark. |
| 366s | So that's who we're going to spend our day with. |
| 368s | You're just going to be sitting out with s$#% all day with him. |
| 371s | Good. We don't know. |
| 371s | A little bit. |
| 372s | You don't know that. |
| 374s | Kadan is that one edgy, quiet anime character that somehow is popular, but have absolutely no personality. |
| 382s | We don't know that. |
| 382s | You don't know that. |
| 383s | You don't know. |
| 384s | You don't even know. |
| 384s | Maybe you should get to know him before you judge him. |
| 387s | When you look at the facts about Balthorr, what does he have? |
| 390s | Beer. |
| 392s | That's it. |
| 392s | He has a market dance. |
| 394s | He has song. |
| 395s | He has dance. |
| 396s | He is a very lively people. |
| 397s | He's beloved. |
| 398s | I'm anti-social. |
| 399s | He's one of the best new players Sidereals. |
| 402s | You think you're gonna get knocked off somewhere, you just throw a little Balthorr at him. |
| 404s | Balthorr is - Aren't you new player friendly? |
| 408s | Yes. |
| 408s | You like new players, right? |
| 410s | Yeah. What does Kadan do to help new players? |
| 412s | You don't know. |
| 413s | No, exactly. |
| 414s | We do know what is in the game. Does he do anything to help new players get set up? |
| 417s | I'm not sure when - we're not sure when this is being aired. |
| 419s | We don't know when this thing airs. |
| 421s | But he may or may not save the world. |
| 423s | And on top of that - no spoilers - on top of that, Kaden, like I can already spend the day with Balthorr. |
| 431s | I can go in-game and -. |
| 433s | You watch him sing Romantic Weapon, you don't know what Kadan's doing. |
| 436s | You can't do that with Kadan. |
| 438s | So if I have one day to spend it with someone, I'm going to pick the person I can't normally spend it with. |
| 444s | True. You want what you can't have. |
| 446s | And that's Kaden. |
| 446s | You said "edgy anime character". |
| 447s | You said "edgy anime character." Everyone loves the edgy anime character. But you know what you have with Balthorr. |
| 451s | You can go and hang out with Kaden, right, and it's just the worst day of your life. |
| 454s | With Balthorr - *indecipherable* Hospitality, though. |
| 463s | He looks like a pile of play doh. |
| 464s | Which means you're not special because anybody can hang out with Balthorr. |
| 466s | But Kadan, if he hangs out with you, you're special. |
| 470s | That just kind of makes him kind of mean. |
| 472s | Good. Keep your social circle small. |
| 474s | Balthorr looks like a pile of play doh. |
| 476s | True. |
| 476s | He looks like a pile of play doh. |
| 478s | A good pile of play doh. |
| 481s | Yeah. Good is subjective. |
| 482s | Hmm. |
| 483s | Just because he has a beard doesn't mean he's good. |
| 484s | You're so biased. |
| 486s | Kadan is the most powerful character in all of Lost Ark. |
| 489s | I can go hang out with you. |
| 493s | Me and you can go hang out for a day That's like hanging out with Balthorr. |
| 495s | Just like double the height. |
| 499s | All right, That's going to do it for our warm-up debate, I guess. |
| 503s | When we get back from this commercial break, we'll get into our 1v1 debate with Bobajenny taking on DatModz in their rematch. |
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| 547s | Did you know that every hour one of these pets is eaten by me? |
| 555s | Hello, I'm Akkan. |
| 558s | I might be the Lord of Death. |
| 563s | But I also love cute, fuzzy animals like this cat, this bunny, or this egg, I guess. |
| 575s | So please call today and help save these loveable pets. Or I will eat them! |
| 582s | All right. |
| 583s | Welcome back. |
| 583s | It is time for our 1v1 debate. |
| 586s | As always, each party will have one minute to make their initial argument and one minute to respond for a total of 2 minutes each. |
| 593s | Today we have the rematch between Bobajenny and DatModz. |
| 596s | Your debate topic is: what is more impressive, Grandmaster PVP title or Legion Raid Inferno titles? |
| 604s | DatModz, you will be arguing for PVP titles. |
| 607s | Bobajenny, you will be arguing for Inferno titles. |
| 610s | YI'll give you both a minute to strategize. |
| 614s | How are y'all feeling? |
| 616s | I think it's in my opinion, it leans towards more Top Tier PVP. |
| 621s | Just because a lot of people have Inferno titles. |
| 624s | Doesn't mean it's easy, but I just think it's - whenever I see some of the top tier people like GM, I'm usually more taken back by that, but they're both impressive. |
| 633s | So it sounds like Bobajenny might have some challenges in today's topic. |
| 638s | I'm biased though. |
| 639s | Yeah. |
| 639s | Yeah, that's fair. |
| 640s | I shouldn't even bother asking you. |
| 643s | I don't know. |
| 643s | I think Legion Reign titles are impressive. |
| 646s | They're cool, yeah. |
| 647s | They're common. |
| 648s | Yeah, it's a good consolation prize. |
| 649s | I'm curious to see what she has to say. |
| 652s | All right, debaters, are we feeling ready? |
| 655s | Feeling armed and ready? |
| 656s | Let's kick things off with Bobajenny, your minute to make your initial argument starts now. |
| 663s | Okay, So I can see how top tier PvP can be very, very, you know, notorious. |
| 668s | They're like, Oh, damn, this guy has a title that I've never seen before. |
| 671s | But let's have a reality check. |
| 674s | Not that many people play PVP. |
| 676s | If you got Top Tier, there's probably only ten players playing PVP. |
| 679s | I'm sorry. |
| 680s | But you know, think about, you know, the PVE raids, the Inferno raids. |
| 686s | Not only do you have to save your own ass during a PVP, you got to make sure that all the other members are also alive, especially if you're going through Deathless. |
| 696s | Not only are you putting in your time, effort, energy, sometimes budget, you're even putting in battle items. |
| 706s | You got to try again and again. |
| 708s | You're losing your sanity. |
| 709s | So I feel like there is more... |
| 713s | there's more challenge when it comes to PVE raid... |
| 718s | Sorry, there's more challenge when it comes to PVE raiding because you're not only counting on yourself, you're counting on seven other people and you're counting on teamwork, which is why I think PVE rating is more impressive. |
| 730s | All right, that was - You were staring into my soul.. |
| 734s | Well, stare back. |
| 735s | You're supposed to listen. |
| 736s | All right, DatModz, your one minute to make your argument starts now. |
| 740s | Okay. |
| 741s | No, you made some good arguments with Inferno Mode raids. |
| 745s | They are fun. |
| 745s | They are challenging. |
| 746s | However, they are scripted. |
| 748s | There are guides for them and it's easily bussable. |
| 752s | However, when we're talking about PVP, it's a lot more exclusive. |
| 755s | Yeah, there's less people playing, but you only have a limited amount of time to get those titles and they're a lot more limited. |
| 760s | Only ten people could get a Grandmaster title. |
| 763s | How many people can get an Inferno mode title? |
| 766s | You also have no time limit on getting Inferno Mode titles. |
| 769s | You could go into Inferno Mode one year from now, with people that have done it before, and you could just be the only person that has not got the Deathless clear. |
| 776s | In addition, Inferno mode - you're also expending a bunch of your gold. |
| 780s | I'd rather take that gold and tap my weapons. When you do PVP and you get Grandmaster, you get 10,000 blue crystals. |
| 787s | You can buy pheons. |
| 790s | That's pretty good, right? |
| 792s | You also get a sick mount and you get a sick title. |
| 796s | All right, that was your one minute bow. |
| 799s | Bobajenny, you have one minute to respond. |
| 802s | So I see your point. |
| 803s | You know, it's a limited time only, but aside from it sounding like a great deal at the shopping mall, I think personally Lost Ark is a team player game. |
| 816s | If you go into Party Finder, if you see someone that has all the Inferno titles, you're going to be like, Damn, this person knows what they're doing. |
| 824s | So you're more likely to choose them over PVP. |
| 827s | And alongside with that, PVP - you already kind of know who you're playing with because there's only ten people playing PVP. |
| 835s | For PVE, you might get pugs, you have to deal with players of all different calibers. |
| 843s | They could be really good players or they could be, you know, kind of normie players. |
| 847s | So I feel like the amount of patience and perseverance that you need to get these Inferno titles is way more impressive than PVP. |
| 856s | All right, DatModz, do you have one minute for your final response. |
| 860s | No, you are right. |
| 861s | When you have an Inferno mode title, it does break that barrier to entry in a rage. |
| 864s | When someone sees Addicted to Delight, they're like, Wow, this guy is good. |
| 867s | But the thing is that it only gets you into the raid, a lot of these things are bust and these players might not be good. |
| 871s | So when they start dying over and over again and they're addicted to the floor, you're going to get kicked out of the raid. |
| 876s | Or if you can't do Prokel, you're going to get kicked out of the raid. |
| 880s | In PVP, you can't be selective of who you're playing with. |
| 883s | It's ranked brackets. |
| 884s | I can go into the Inferno mode Discord, and I can find a bunch of good players that I know are capable. |
| 889s | When you're in PVP, you might get some better players, you might not get some, you might get the worst players. |
| 895s | So you're going to have to carry them in that match or do a little better. |
| 899s | And also in PVP, it's reactive-based combat. |
| 903s | In the moment you're going to be doing stuff, you're gonna have to to be saving your spacebar. |
| 906s | You got to be using your immunities, right? |
| 907s | You're paralysis immunities. |
| 909s | You don't really need to do that in PVE. |
| 911s | You know - Oh, okay, here's the health bars. |
| 915s | Oh, this is happening. |
| 916s | There's a stagger. |
| 916s | Okay, this is coming next. |
| 918s | We're going to move to the corner of the Sidereal. |
| 920s | You kind of know what's coming ahead and it's already planned out. |
| 923s | All right, that is your time. |
| 925s | I'm going to bring the spectators over so we can discuss the debate and pick a winner. |
| 929s | All right. |
| 930s | I feel like that was a really solid debate, but I want to hear both of your thoughts. |
| 934s | I think DatModz might have got his first win. |
| 937s | Yes, I think Bobajenny is right though it's not Hell mode titles - Inferno titles - are impressive, but I think what DatModz said was really true - is that you can get those Inferno titles at any point. |
| 953s | You could get a group that has cleared it a year ago. |
| 956s | They're really polished at the fight and they can kind of bring you in and make your journey a little bit easier. |
| 961s | Whereas in PVP it's a select amount of people that are able to earn it. |
| 965s | It's a short period of time when you can earn it. |
| 968s | So they're both impressive. |
| 971s | But I think DatModz probably had a little bit of a stronger argument. |
| 976s | Grentom, I kind of know probably how you're feeling. |
| 979s | But yeah, I mean, Jenny, Jenny actually has some really good points as well. |
| 982s | So as someone who's done both PVP and Inferno, there are challenges in Inferno that you won't see in PVP and vice versa. |
| 989s | So I think it comes down to what you're better at. |
| 992s | Some people are just better at like 1v3ing, so even if they have two griefers on their team and people are just staying in spawn - because I've had that happen before - they can still somehow pull out a win. |
| 1002s | But in Inferno it's really hard to just solo carry seven other people, especially if they're going for Deathless. |
| 1007s | Because if you have people in your group who are squishier and they just get one-shot by a couple of mechs, you've got to restart. |
| 1013s | If you're on Gate Three Vykas, and you're at the stagger mech and then someone dies, okay, well, you stop the raid, you go out and you start from Gate One all over again. |
| 1019s | So I think they're both very impressive. |
| 1021s | They're both impressive. |
| 1022s | Yeah, but, I mean, I'm biased. |
| 1025s | Well we knew that going into this so sounds like this was a really solid debate, I definitely have some things to think about. |
| 1030s | Thank you for your input. |
| 1031s | I will send you back. |
| 1032s | That was a really solid debate. |
| 1034s | But Bobajenny... |
| 1039s | She's going to lose. |
| 1041s | Bobajenny, unfortunately, you are our Mokoko. |
| 1045s | This show with not rigged. |
| 1047s | It's all right, Bobajenny, it's okay. |
| 1049s | It's all right. |
| 1051s | All right. |
| 1051s | Thank you for joining us for this week's episode of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club. |
| 1055s | And remember, it's okay, Bobajenny, it doesn't matter, because you can still win in the season finale when the Community votes on who is and who is not a Mokoko. |
| 1063s | All right. |
| 1063s | We'll see you next week. |
| 1064s | Go PVP. |
| 1087s | Hey, guys. |
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