[2023] Lost Ark Academy Debate Club: A Day With a Sidereal

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7s	Coming to you from the Amazon Games Community Team, it's the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club!
13s	With your host, straight out of the rocks box, it's Roxx!
22s	Welcome to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
25s	This is where our contestants debate to prove they have what it takes not to be a Mokoko.
30s	I'm Roxx and I'm here to make sure that DatModz doesn't show up in clown makeup.
35s	Right, Mokoko?
36s	That wig was ratty.
37s	It sure was.
39s	All right, let's get into it and bring out our first contestant.
42s	Here is Stoopzz.
44s	Yeah.
45s	Vote for me in the finale!
48s	Next up, we have Grenton.
54s	Next, we're bringing out Bobajenny.
59s	And finally, last but not least, DatModz.
63s	Where are you going?
63s	Wrong way, buddy.
64s	Oh.
67s	There he is, the man himself.
70s	Now that everyone is here, let's get into our two versus two warm-up debate.
74s	The teams are the people on the bongos, the people behind the rock.
77s	I think you know that by now.
78s	For today's topic, and I'm going to make you decide who you're choosing before I let you strategize, which Sidereal would be the coolest to spend the day hanging out with?
93s	They didn't even talk.
93s	They just agreed.
94s	That was incredible.
97s	Same brain cells.
98s	Just the one shared brain cell putting in the work.
101s	All right, you two - what is your topic?
103s	Kadan.
105s	Okay, you two.
108s	Balthorr.
108s	All right, I'll give you all a minute to strategize or do whatever weird psychic s%#^ you were doing before.
114s	Okay.
116s	He is a Sidereal, but he doesn't...
119s	Mm hmm.
119s	You already know about that.
121s	Kadan, no one knows anything about that guy.
123s	He's actually a big, mysterious esther.
125s	So all season long, we've been listening to the debaters share their arguments, share their opinions.
129s	And honestly, I'm kind of sick of it.
131s	I wouldn't say that to them or my director, but I'll say it to you guys.
136s	I think I'm ready for some cold, hard facts about Lost Ark.
138s	And luckily, I have just the person that can share some of those with us.
143s	Greetings, foolish uninformed one.
145s	I am Ryan, barrer of knowledge.
147s	Okay.
148s	Ouch.
148s	But like, what do you - what do you do?
150s	Tell us what you do.
151s	Well, my team, Business Intelligence, we manage all of the data that comes in and out of Lost Ark.
159s	Okay, all of the data.
161s	What kind of data comes in and out of Lost Ark?
164s	Everything from when players are logged in, from what items they've collected, how much damage they've done.
172s	We know we have tracked every single one of the 6.8 billion tier one gems that people have collected out of Chaos Dungeons recently.
182s	We know whether you succeeded or failed.
184s	We know who you did it with.
185s	We know everything.
188s	That's not concerning at all.
190s	Can you share some of those numbers and everything you know with us?
194s	Did you know that the Artist is the class that has been deleted the least?
199s	No regrets with the Artist.
200s	No regrets.
201s	She's a great support.
202s	The most important emote in Lost Ark appears to be thumbs up, followed by the Let's Play emote.
210s	Understandable.
212s	And it says here that 750 million Mokoko seeds have been gathered by players.
218s	That's a lot of unborn Mokokos.
221s	Well, what else does a questionable mushroom tell you?
226s	We got about 3.5 million ignea tokens have been earned across the board from players.
231s	And it seems that well, I found where all of our silvers went.
235s	Somewhere in the ballpark of about 200 billion silver has been spent on triports.
240s	That's a lot of money going straight to the Arkesian government.
243s	Yeah, it's it's pretty much the heftiest tax on the island.
247s	Second.
248s	Second, of course, to honing. Lot of honing rate issues, but here we see that actually 60% of all hones throughout Lost Ark's history have in fact been successful.
258s	And now we can tell that to all the people who swear it's rigged.
261s	Right?
262s	1.6 million players have fallen.
266s	And that's kind of a lot.
269s	It is.
270s	But, you know, everybody's doing their part, such as this one player here who it says has died 46,900 times.
280s	One person?
282s	One player.
282s	He's really doing his part.
284s	There is a point where failure becomes success and at this point he is succeeding.
287s	Yeah. And now you're number one.
288s	Look at that.
289s	You can do anything.
290s	And that's, well, not our motto at the Debate Club, but it should be You can do anything.
294s	About something a little bit less painfu?.
298s	People seem to have preferences and their aliases on the island.
302s	And we found that Destroyers kind of followed a pattern.
306s	About 3% of all Destroyers created have "bonk" in their name, which is only matched by Artists, which - about 2% of them - decided to have "Ayaya" in their name.
317s	No creativity.
318s	But I respect that.
319s	You know, that's a lot of good player choices.
322s	But yeah, that all sounds great.
324s	Thankful for Business Intelligence.
328s	I must go.
329s	The shrooms need me.
331s	It's like everyone is about ready to get into it.
333s	So, debaters, whenever you are ready, start fighting.
336s	Okay.
337s	Mr.
337s	Modz, I know you like Balthorr.
339s	Yeah.
339s	You share the same beard with him.
342s	I understand why you picked him, okay.
343s	But Kadan is the one Esther that no one knows anything about.
347s	You get to build a rapport with all of the other ones in the game.
350s	So if I'm going to spend one day with somebody, I want to spend it with Kadan to find out more about who he is.
356s	Every time the guy comes out, he has the best cut scenes, the best music, the best hair line.
362s	And we know he's the strongest one.
363s	He's the big mystery of Lost Ark.
366s	So that's who we're going to spend our day with.
368s	You're just going to be sitting out with s$#% all day with him.
371s	Good. We don't know.
371s	A little bit.
372s	You don't know that.
374s	Kadan is that one edgy, quiet anime character that somehow is popular, but have absolutely no personality.
382s	We don't know that.
382s	You don't know that.
383s	You don't know.
384s	You don't even know.
384s	Maybe you should get to know him before you judge him.
387s	When you look at the facts about Balthorr, what does he have?
390s	Beer.
392s	That's it.
392s	He has a market dance.
394s	He has song.
395s	He has dance.
396s	He is a very lively people.
397s	He's beloved.
398s	I'm anti-social.
399s	He's one of the best new players Sidereals.
402s	You think you're gonna get knocked off somewhere, you just throw a little Balthorr at him.
404s	Balthorr is - Aren't you new player friendly?
408s	Yes.
408s	You like new players, right?
410s	Yeah. What does Kadan do to help new players?
412s	You don't know.
413s	No, exactly.
414s	We do know what is in the game. Does he do anything to help new players get set up?
417s	I'm not sure when - we're not sure when this is being aired.
419s	We don't know when this thing airs.
421s	But he may or may not save the world.
423s	And on top of that - no spoilers - on top of that, Kaden, like I can already spend the day with Balthorr.
431s	I can go in-game and -.
433s	You watch him sing Romantic Weapon, you don't know what Kadan's doing.
436s	You can't do that with Kadan.
438s	So if I have one day to spend it with someone, I'm going to pick the person I can't normally spend it with.
444s	True. You want what you can't have.
446s	And that's Kaden.
446s	You said "edgy anime character".
447s	You said "edgy anime character." Everyone loves the edgy anime character. But you know what you have with Balthorr.
451s	You can go and hang out with Kaden, right, and it's just the worst day of your life.
454s	With Balthorr - indecipherable Hospitality, though.
463s	He looks like a pile of play doh.
464s	Which means you're not special because anybody can hang out with Balthorr.
466s	But Kadan, if he hangs out with you, you're special.
470s	That just kind of makes him kind of mean.
472s	Good. Keep your social circle small.
474s	Balthorr looks like a pile of play doh.
476s	True.
476s	He looks like a pile of play doh.
478s	A good pile of play doh.
481s	Yeah. Good is subjective.
482s	Hmm.
483s	Just because he has a beard doesn't mean he's good.
484s	You're so biased.
486s	Kadan is the most powerful character in all of Lost Ark.
489s	I can go hang out with you.
493s	Me and you can go hang out for a day That's like hanging out with Balthorr.
495s	Just like double the height.
499s	All right, That's going to do it for our warm-up debate, I guess.
503s	When we get back from this commercial break, we'll get into our 1v1 debate with Bobajenny taking on DatModz in their rematch.
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582s	All right.
583s	Welcome back.
583s	It is time for our 1v1 debate.
586s	As always, each party will have one minute to make their initial argument and one minute to respond for a total of 2 minutes each.
593s	Today we have the rematch between Bobajenny and DatModz.
596s	Your debate topic is: what is more impressive, Grandmaster PVP title or Legion Raid Inferno titles?
604s	DatModz, you will be arguing for PVP titles.
607s	Bobajenny, you will be arguing for Inferno titles.
610s	YI'll give you both a minute to strategize.
614s	How are y'all feeling?
616s	I think it's in my opinion, it leans towards more Top Tier PVP.
621s	Just because a lot of people have Inferno titles.
624s	Doesn't mean it's easy, but I just think it's - whenever I see some of the top tier people like GM, I'm usually more taken back by that, but they're both impressive.
633s	So it sounds like Bobajenny might have some challenges in today's topic.
638s	I'm biased though.
639s	Yeah.
639s	Yeah, that's fair.
640s	I shouldn't even bother asking you.
643s	I don't know.
643s	I think Legion Reign titles are impressive.
646s	They're cool, yeah.
647s	They're common.
648s	Yeah, it's a good consolation prize.
649s	I'm curious to see what she has to say.
652s	All right, debaters, are we feeling ready?
655s	Feeling armed and ready?
656s	Let's kick things off with Bobajenny, your minute to make your initial argument starts now.
663s	Okay, So I can see how top tier PvP can be very, very, you know, notorious.
668s	They're like, Oh, damn, this guy has a title that I've never seen before.
671s	But let's have a reality check.
674s	Not that many people play PVP.
676s	If you got Top Tier, there's probably only ten players playing PVP.
679s	I'm sorry.
680s	But you know, think about, you know, the PVE raids, the Inferno raids.
686s	Not only do you have to save your own ass during a PVP, you got to make sure that all the other members are also alive, especially if you're going through Deathless.
696s	Not only are you putting in your time, effort, energy, sometimes budget, you're even putting in battle items.
706s	You got to try again and again.
708s	You're losing your sanity.
709s	So I feel like there is more...
713s	there's more challenge when it comes to PVE raid...
718s	Sorry, there's more challenge when it comes to PVE raiding because you're not only counting on yourself, you're counting on seven other people and you're counting on teamwork, which is why I think PVE rating is more impressive.
730s	All right, that was - You were staring into my soul..
734s	Well, stare back.
735s	You're supposed to listen.
736s	All right, DatModz, your one minute to make your argument starts now.
740s	Okay.
741s	No, you made some good arguments with Inferno Mode raids.
745s	They are fun.
745s	They are challenging.
746s	However, they are scripted.
748s	There are guides for them and it's easily bussable.
752s	However, when we're talking about PVP, it's a lot more exclusive.
755s	Yeah, there's less people playing, but you only have a limited amount of time to get those titles and they're a lot more limited.
760s	Only ten people could get a Grandmaster title.
763s	How many people can get an Inferno mode title?
766s	You also have no time limit on getting Inferno Mode titles.
769s	You could go into Inferno Mode one year from now, with people that have done it before, and you could just be the only person that has not got the Deathless clear.
776s	In addition, Inferno mode - you're also expending a bunch of your gold.
780s	I'd rather take that gold and tap my weapons. When you do PVP and you get Grandmaster, you get 10,000 blue crystals.
787s	You can buy pheons.
790s	That's pretty good, right?
792s	You also get a sick mount and you get a sick title.
796s	All right, that was your one minute bow.
799s	Bobajenny, you have one minute to respond.
802s	So I see your point.
803s	You know, it's a limited time only, but aside from it sounding like a great deal at the shopping mall, I think personally Lost Ark is a team player game.
816s	If you go into Party Finder, if you see someone that has all the Inferno titles, you're going to be like, Damn, this person knows what they're doing.
824s	So you're more likely to choose them over PVP.
827s	And alongside with that, PVP - you already kind of know who you're playing with because there's only ten people playing PVP.
835s	For PVE, you might get pugs, you have to deal with players of all different calibers.
843s	They could be really good players or they could be, you know, kind of normie players.
847s	So I feel like the amount of patience and perseverance that you need to get these Inferno titles is way more impressive than PVP.
856s	All right, DatModz, do you have one minute for your final response.
860s	No, you are right.
861s	When you have an Inferno mode title, it does break that barrier to entry in a rage.
864s	When someone sees Addicted to Delight, they're like, Wow, this guy is good.
867s	But the thing is that it only gets you into the raid, a lot of these things are bust and these players might not be good.
871s	So when they start dying over and over again and they're addicted to the floor, you're going to get kicked out of the raid.
876s	Or if you can't do Prokel, you're going to get kicked out of the raid.
880s	In PVP, you can't be selective of who you're playing with.
883s	It's ranked brackets.
884s	I can go into the Inferno mode Discord, and I can find a bunch of good players that I know are capable.
889s	When you're in PVP, you might get some better players, you might not get some, you might get the worst players.
895s	So you're going to have to carry them in that match or do a little better.
899s	And also in PVP, it's reactive-based combat.
903s	In the moment you're going to be doing stuff, you're gonna have to to be saving your spacebar.
906s	You got to be using your immunities, right?
907s	You're paralysis immunities.
909s	You don't really need to do that in PVE.
911s	You know - Oh, okay, here's the health bars.
915s	Oh, this is happening.
916s	There's a stagger.
916s	Okay, this is coming next.
918s	We're going to move to the corner of the Sidereal.
920s	You kind of know what's coming ahead and it's already planned out.
923s	All right, that is your time.
925s	I'm going to bring the spectators over so we can discuss the debate and pick a winner.
929s	All right.
930s	I feel like that was a really solid debate, but I want to hear both of your thoughts.
934s	I think DatModz might have got his first win.
937s	Yes, I think Bobajenny is right though it's not Hell mode titles - Inferno titles - are impressive, but I think what DatModz said was really true - is that you can get those Inferno titles at any point.
953s	You could get a group that has cleared it a year ago.
956s	They're really polished at the fight and they can kind of bring you in and make your journey a little bit easier.
961s	Whereas in PVP it's a select amount of people that are able to earn it.
965s	It's a short period of time when you can earn it.
968s	So they're both impressive.
971s	But I think DatModz probably had a little bit of a stronger argument.
976s	Grentom, I kind of know probably how you're feeling.
979s	But yeah, I mean, Jenny, Jenny actually has some really good points as well.
982s	So as someone who's done both PVP and Inferno, there are challenges in Inferno that you won't see in PVP and vice versa.
989s	So I think it comes down to what you're better at.
992s	Some people are just better at like 1v3ing, so even if they have two griefers on their team and people are just staying in spawn - because I've had that happen before - they can still somehow pull out a win.
1002s	But in Inferno it's really hard to just solo carry seven other people, especially if they're going for Deathless.
1007s	Because if you have people in your group who are squishier and they just get one-shot by a couple of mechs, you've got to restart.
1013s	If you're on Gate Three Vykas, and you're at the stagger mech and then someone dies, okay, well, you stop the raid, you go out and you start from Gate One all over again.
1019s	So I think they're both very impressive.
1021s	They're both impressive.
1022s	Yeah, but, I mean, I'm biased.
1025s	Well we knew that going into this so sounds like this was a really solid debate, I definitely have some things to think about.
1030s	Thank you for your input.
1031s	I will send you back.
1032s	That was a really solid debate.
1034s	But Bobajenny...
1039s	She's going to lose.
1041s	Bobajenny, unfortunately, you are our Mokoko.
1045s	This show with not rigged.
1047s	It's all right, Bobajenny, it's okay.
1049s	It's all right.
1051s	All right.
1051s	Thank you for joining us for this week's episode of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
1055s	And remember, it's okay, Bobajenny, it doesn't matter, because you can still win in the season finale when the Community votes on who is and who is not a Mokoko.
1063s	All right.
1063s	We'll see you next week.
1064s	Go PVP.
1087s	Hey, guys.
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