[2023] Lost Ark Academy Debate Club: Episode 2

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6s	Coming to you from the Amazon Games Community team.
9s	It's the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club with your host, straight out of the rocks box, it's Roxx!
24s	Welcome to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
28s	This is where our contestants debate to prove they have what it takes not to be a Mokoko.
33s	I'm Roxx and I'm here to make sure things don't get too weird.
36s	Right Mokoko?
37s	Did you know Mokoko seeds are my unborn brethryn?
42s	Yeah.
43s	We survived week one, so that means it's time for episode two of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
49s	We're going to start right now by bringing out our contestants.
52s	First up is DatModz.
56s	He's coming, I think. There he is, there he is..
59s	Join us.
60s	Join us.
60s	Next up, we have Stoopzz.
62s	I'm on top of the world.
66s	I'm happy for you.
67s	All right.
68s	Next up, we have Grenton.
71s	Yeah.
73s	Oh come on!
75s	I did that earlier.
75s	It's wrong.
77s	Moving right on from that, finally, we're bringing out Bobajenny.
83s	Yeah.
84s	There we go.
84s	We're going to get things started right away by rolling out into our warm-up debate.
88s	Remember, this is a two versus two debate.
90s	There are no rules.
91s	Nothing matters.
92s	Do whatever you want, within reason, please.
96s	Our teams are split, alright.
97s	We're going to have DatModz and Stoopzz versus Grenton and BobaJenny.
101s	Today's warm-up topic is, what is the best city to hone in?
105s	Think about it, but not too hard because I'm going to tell you what - Punika.
110s	Okay, you guys get Vern.
111s	Grenton and Bobajenny, Punika.
114s	All right.
115s	All right.
116s	I'll give you all a minute to strategize, make your arguments, and then we'll get right into our warm-up debate.
122s	Our strongest argument here is...
128s	You're probably wondering why we're asking all these creators to prove that they're not Mokokos.
133s	Well, Mokokos are pretty cute and they're pretty nice.
135s	The one we have on set is a little bit questionable.
137s	That's not the point.
138s	But we're asking them to prove that they're not Mokokos because in-game, the Mokoko buff is something that's put in place to help new players.
145s	If you're under item level 1445, you get a buff to monsters, you take less damage from monsters and you get a bunch of free items.
154s	And we don't think they deserve free items.
156s	They have thousands of hours in the game.
159s	They should know better by now and they should understand the ins and outs of Arcadia.
163s	They play more than we do.
164s	They don't need any free s$%@.
166s	So there's no shame in being a Mokoko, being a new player.
168s	We want you to get in game and that's one of the reasons we offer the buffs so you can get on your footing in Arkesia a little bit easier as you learn and grow.
176s	But they don't need to learn and grow anymore and it's disappointing if they feel like they still do.
182s	All right.
185s	It looks like that has been about a minute.
187s	Debaters, are you feeling ready?
189s	Feeling good?
190s	Yeah. All right.
190s	Fight!
191s	Okay.
192s	I'm a very superstitious player,.
194s	Okay?
195s	I've gone to every continent testing the honing in every single area.
198s	Have you seen his Ignia tokens?
199s	That's true.
200s	That's right.
200s	All of them.
201s	I got the golden pony.
203s	Attaboy.
204s	Some people might accuse me of having streamer buff, but it's not streamer buff.
207s	Okay?
208s	North Vern.
210s	But you're supposed to debate for Punika.
211s	So yeah.
212s	North Vern channel three is by far the best honing area in the entire game.
217s	One taps all the time.
219s	Crazy quality taps.
221s	9 / 7 stones. It's everything any player wants.
223s	No way.
224s	Because I pitied some stuff in Vern though.
227s	And I've seen a lot of clips from your stream where you're raging in Vern.
230s	You seen his 100 quality?
231s	Have you seen that?
233s	Have you seen it?
234s	Have you seen it?
235s	The real question is, though, Bobajenny, when you go to hone, where do you hone at?
241s	I heard you call him Mr.
242s	Modz.
243s	Okay.
245s	Bobajenny, you're supposed to say Punika.
247s	I've heard that.
249s	Stoopzz hones in Punika and Stoops is probably the person that, out of us four, who hones the most because he makes every single character.
253s	Your characters juiced as hell, man.
255s	I know you're a whale, man.
256s	I've seen your character.
257s	Where do you think I get all my qualities?
258s	On Punika.
259s	No man you lie - where you hone in?
260s	I hone in Feiton.
262s	That's where demons hone.
262s	Exactly.
263s	Cause I'm a demon.
264s	You guys are awful at this.
265s	No, you hone in Punika and you hone in Vern.
267s	I don't know why you're trying to go, Yes, Arkesia is very big, it's a vast open world, we've all seen the ads.
273s	I don't like honing in Vern, man, it's the land of the bots.
279s	All right.
280s	All I have to say is, look at all the clips at the top.
281s	You know, the one taps and everything like that is always in Punika.
284s	Lailai is too strong.
285s	I got pretty lucky.
286s	That's where I got my 100 weapon as well.
287s	The only thing people are doing in Punika are role playing and having dance parties in the water Because they don't need to hone anymore.
293s	They got 25+ weapons.
295s	The go to Vern first to hone and then they got to Punika to hang out.
298s	It's very system.
299s	You look at that, look at the town.
300s	It's super simple.
301s	Everybody's around the zoning vendor in Vern because they're just pitying their stuff.
304s	Punika They're all on the beach, chillin because it's all one taps.
306s	They're done.
307s	They're done.
309s	You just Lailai the entire time - it's demonic.
311s	I never said it...
311s	indechipherable All right, I feel like our actual debaters for this episode are warmed up and Stoopzz has given up so I'm going to call there.
323s	You're going to cut to commercial really quick and we'll be right back to you after this break on the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
339s	Bobajenny said some things about me, and it really got me thinking.
346s	I think I might actually be getting old. My sight, it's starting to dwindle.
352s	My reactions aren't there anymore.
359s	I think my f$@#$ time is actually coming near.
363s	And honestly, the only thing I want is for you, the audience, to vote for me in the live finale of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
370s	That's my last wish.
375s	Hey, everybody.
376s	My name's Grenton.
377s	Are you having trouble completing your raids?
380s	Are you putting all your priorities to the side to watch the Lost Art Academy Debate Club?
384s	Well, don't worry.
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390s	Make sure you use code GRENTON at checkout and get yourself ready for our live finale of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club in August.
396s	So come on down today and get your bus passes.
399s	Make sure to use code Grenton.
402s	Satisfaction guaranteed.
403s	Welcome back to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
406s	It's time to kick off our one versus one debate today with Grenton and Bobajenny.
411s	Remember, this is a structured debate, so contestant one will have one minute to make an argument.
415s	Contestant two will have one minute and then both sides will have one minute each for a response.
421s	So for today's debate topic, what class would you want the most experienced person in your raid to be playing?
429s	I'll let you think about it, but I think it would be really interesting if we got kind of like a DPS versus support.
434s	Both sides are very important, you know.
436s	Think about that.
437s	Pick your classes.
440s	I think I'm gonna argue for my support homies.
441s	Support homies.
442s	All right. I'll argue for the DPS homies.
445s	Perfect.
445s	Sounds good.
446s	So, spectators, you're going to listen into their arguments with me and then we'll discuss afterwards to decide who our Mokoko is.
453s	I'll give you all a minute to strategize.
457s	I think it's a pretty interesting topic.
458s	I mean, if you have to choose between a DPS and support, I'd pick Gunlancer and Bard.
462s	Those are my two options.
463s	I feel like they have the most impactful role in the group.
466s	But would you pick DPS or support?
469s	If I had a pick one?
471s	Support.
472s	Support for sure.
472s	It all depends on the raid that you're doing.
474s	If you have a super juicer damage, they could definitely carry the end of some raids if everyone else ends up dying.
479s	Support players, if they know to time all their skills correctly, shields, reductions.
484s	I mean, lock back mechanics.
485s	I mean look at our group.
487s	We have Averse in our group and we still wipe it.
493s	Definitely.
493s	It's interesting to see what they're going to come up with.
495s	All right.
496s	All right.
496s	And that is our minutes.
499s	Bobajenny, why don't you start us off with your first argument now?
503s	So I am actually going to pick a class that is super well-rounded, even though it's still considered a DPS class, which is a Gunlancer.
513s	So you guys might be thinking, why the Gunlancer?
515s	It's all - we're all gated by supports.
517s	But if you really do think about it, aside from supports, we need Gunlancers because it can help the juicers and it could help the people that are a bit squishier.
528s	Gunlancers are beefy boys.
529s	They don't really die and they help the support by shielding and they help the DPS by doing damage, whether it's back attack or hit master.
540s	So I feel like the Gunlancer is a really well-rounded class.
543s	If someone is super experienced, they can probably play any class.
547s	But if you give them something that has kind of jack-of-all-trades, then I think they can do really, really well on it.
554s	Awesome.
557s	Grenton, your one minute argument starts now.
559s	Yeah. So this one might be a little spicy, but I'm going to choose the Artist.
562s	So I feel like the Artist is probably the most impactful support in the game.
567s	Not only just because it has with decent cooldown gems, not like whale cooldown gems, you always have shields up.
573s	So you don't need that Gunlancer to add that damage reduction to your group.
577s	Not only that, but in some of the hardest content in the game, like Brel gate six, when you're dropping those meteors, Artist has portals, so a well-experienced Artist can set you up to get out fast.
588s	Keep your up time on the boss, has very strong heals, very good uptime on their DPS buffs.
593s	But not only that, a big thing about Artist is that it has punching power, too.
598s	I'm not sure if you guys have heard, but there was an Artist that cleared Prokel Hard, solo DPS Artist in there, so it has the flexibility.
605s	So if you have those two builds you can do it.
607s	But also as a dedicated support, that player could just elevate the skill of the rest of your group by just enabling them to do more damage, keeping them safe and just keeping that party going.
617s	All right.
618s	That was a perfect one minute.
620s	Jenny, you have one minute to rebut him.
623s	Well, I mean, I feel like you have pretty strong cases about the Artist, but at the same time, the Artist that did Prokel, they probably didn't go with a very standardized Artist build, which means that they are probably a little bit more useless when it comes to team fights.
637s	And on top of that, you have to choose between if you want to heal someone or if you want the buff.
643s	So you kind of can only have either or and not both, versus the Gunlancer has shields, taunts.
649s	Taunts for Brel would be friggin amazing.
652s	And when they taunt, the back attackers can actually do massive damage as well.
656s	And they also have a cleanse.
658s	So I feel like instead of choosing one side to play, the Gunlancer can do both.
662s	And that's why I chose the Gunlancer.
665s	Yeah.
666s	Got a few more seconds if you want to make any last points.
669s	Oh, they really just don't die.
670s	They're so beefy.
671s	They just tank everything.
673s	They don't care.
673s	So I feel like they're just very, very well rounded.
677s	Perfect.
677s	Perfect closing.
678s	Grenton, your final minute for your final argument starts now.
682s	So you're absolutely right.
683s	Prokel gate tweo, the artist went in with a DPS build.
685s	But guess what?
686s	That's the entire fight.
687s	They're not there to support their team.
688s	They go in with the DPS build.
690s	The top side is super easy if you have average players.
694s	So they went in there, they cleaned up Prokel and they came back out.
696s	But not only that, everything a Gunlancer can do besides taunt, Artist just does better.
702s	They have two cleanses.
703s	They have more active uptime on their shields.
705s	And like I said, that damage buff that you're getting from a Gunlancer?
709s	With a good Artist, they'll just enable their team to have the uptime or that damage buff is negligible, the difference between it.
716s	So yeah, sure, you might have to decide between healing and juicing your party, but you have so much active mitigation as an Artist that your team doesn't really have to worry about taking that chip damage because it's going to be negated anyways and they can just focus on blasting the boss.
729s	So an experienced player on Artist is going to have such a huge impact in the group.
733s	And I'm sure some of you at home probably have had some experience Artists in your group and it's just a cakewalk.
738s	It's a breeze.
739s	Time! That was your final minute.
742s	Spectators, you're going to head over to me in a minute and we're going to talk about what we just listened to.
747s	So I have our spectators over here with me.
749s	Let's talk about what we just heard from our debaters.
751s	How are you all feeling?
752s	I feel like I zoned a lot during it because Grenton was just listing all these things about - Your literal only job was to listen.
760s	He was talking about juiced - so he was talking about DPS Artist and no one cares about DPS Artist.
764s	And on top of that, Bobajenny was talking about beefcakes and things like that.
768s	But, I do think they had a lot of good points about...
771s	Bobajenny talking about the taunts being very useful, great synergy, and I get the idea of a cleanse, but I still think Artist is the worst support.
778s	Do you get the the idea of a cleanse?
781s	I mean every support...
782s	except Bard...
783s	they also have the best DPS buff in the game.
785s	DatModz, how are you feeling?
786s	Yeah, no, they both made very compelling arguments.
788s	Grenton with the Artist with the positional of the portals allowing you on gate six, easier transition during gold war phases, and just bypassing different mechanics so you potentially die too, double cleanse, high DPS up times.
800s	If you have a good support in the group it's very noticeable.
803s	Not Artists though.
803s	It's like they have to heal them.
804s	I don't know.
805s	It's pretty good.
805s	How many?
806s	What's the - name one good DPS...
808s	name one good Artist.
809s	Me.
810s	You don't even have one, do you? I got one.
813s	I've never played with you.
815s	Well, I will say, Bobajenny did mention the DPS Artist that could clear Prokel is probably not a good Artist, and that is actually our Social Media Manager.
824s	So when you watch this, I apologize.
827s	Thank you for being a part of my static.
830s	Anyway, anything else about how their arguments kind of made you feel, any kind of swaying you felt that maybe changed your mind?
837s	Gunlancer, yeah, it's a straight up gigachad class and it's hard to argue that it's probably one of the best progression characters in the game.
843s	Jack-of-all-trades.
844s	Decent damage, sometimes not enough damage, but if your support player dies and everyone else is dead in your group, most of the time you can finish a fight with a Gunlancer.
854s	For support, you pretty much have to wait for a sidereal tocome up in order to finish the boss or multiple sidereals.
860s	I guess that's enough of that.
861s	It sounds like we've come to a consensus.
864s	I'll send you back over and we will decide our winner.
867s	Really good arguments on both sides today.
870s	You know what, Grenton?
871s	Congratulations.
873s	He knows.
875s	Does he know?
875s	How would you know?
877s	I haven't told you.
878s	Why are you looking at me like that?
880s	Oh, you know why.
881s	You know why?
882s	I think I know why.
884s	I think you know that I know why.
890s	I don't think you know.
890s	I know.
893s	I'm a Reaper player.
894s	I'm like, punching from the bottom of the barrel here.
896s	I know.
899s	I don't know what you know.
901s	I don't know what you don't know.
902s	You don't know either.
903s	I know what I know.
904s	And you know that I know that I know.
906s	And I know that Grenton is a Mokoko.
910s	Congratulations Bobajenny, you are not a Mokoko.
918s	It's all right, Grenton.
919s	Sorry.
920s	That's all right.
920s	All right, all right.
922s	Bobajenny, you and your beefcake Gunlancers are not Mokokos today.
926s	But remember, none of these debates really matter until the live season finale, where the community will vote on who is and who is not a Mokoko.
935s	Thanks for joining us and we'll see you on the next episode of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
964s	Hey, if you like the video, be sure to like it down below and subscribe to our channel for more Lost Ark video content.
974s	Yeah.

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