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6s Coming to you from the Amazon Games Community team.
9s It's the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club with your host, straight out of the rocks box, it's Roxx!
24s Welcome to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
28s This is where our contestants debate to prove they have what it takes not to be a Mokoko.
33s I'm Roxx and I'm here to make sure things don't get too weird.
36s Right Mokoko?
37s Did you know Mokoko seeds are my unborn brethryn?
42s Yeah.
43s We survived week one, so that means it's time for episode two of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
49s We're going to start right now by bringing out our contestants.
52s First up is DatModz.
56s He's coming, I think. There he is, there he is..
59s Join us.
60s Join us.
60s Next up, we have Stoopzz.
62s I'm on top of the world.
66s I'm happy for you.
67s All right.
68s Next up, we have Grenton.
71s Yeah.
73s Oh come on!
75s I did that earlier.
75s It's wrong.
77s Moving right on from that, finally, we're bringing out Bobajenny.
83s Yeah.
84s There we go.
84s We're going to get things started right away by rolling out into our warm-up debate.
88s Remember, this is a two versus two debate.
90s There are no rules.
91s Nothing matters.
92s Do whatever you want, within reason, please.
96s Our teams are split, alright.
97s We're going to have DatModz and Stoopzz versus Grenton and BobaJenny.
101s Today's warm-up topic is, what is the best city to hone in?
105s Think about it, but not too hard because I'm going to tell you what - Punika.
110s Okay, you guys get Vern.
111s Grenton and Bobajenny, Punika.
114s All right.
115s All right.
116s I'll give you all a minute to strategize, make your arguments, and then we'll get right into our warm-up debate.
122s Our strongest argument here is...
128s You're probably wondering why we're asking all these creators to prove that they're not Mokokos.
133s Well, Mokokos are pretty cute and they're pretty nice.
135s The one we have on set is a little bit questionable.
137s That's not the point.
138s But we're asking them to prove that they're not Mokokos because in-game, the Mokoko buff is something that's put in place to help new players.
145s If you're under item level 1445, you get a buff to monsters, you take less damage from monsters and you get a bunch of free items.
154s And we don't think they deserve free items.
156s They have thousands of hours in the game.
159s They should know better by now and they should understand the ins and outs of Arcadia.
163s They play more than we do.
164s They don't need any free s$%@.
166s So there's no shame in being a Mokoko, being a new player.
168s We want you to get in game and that's one of the reasons we offer the buffs so you can get on your footing in Arkesia a little bit easier as you learn and grow.
176s But they don't need to learn and grow anymore and it's disappointing if they feel like they still do.
182s All right.
185s It looks like that has been about a minute.
187s Debaters, are you feeling ready?
189s Feeling good?
190s Yeah. All right.
190s Fight!
191s Okay.
192s I'm a very superstitious player,.
194s Okay?
195s I've gone to every continent testing the honing in every single area.
198s Have you seen his Ignia tokens?
199s That's true.
200s That's right.
200s All of them.
201s I got the golden pony.
203s Attaboy.
204s Some people might accuse me of having streamer buff, but it's not streamer buff.
207s Okay?
208s North Vern.
210s But you're supposed to debate for Punika.
211s So yeah.
212s North Vern channel three is by far the best honing area in the entire game.
217s One taps all the time.
219s Crazy quality taps.
221s 9 / 7 stones. It's everything any player wants.
223s No way.
224s Because I pitied some stuff in Vern though.
227s And I've seen a lot of clips from your stream where you're raging in Vern.
230s You seen his 100 quality?
231s Have you seen that?
233s Have you seen it?
234s Have you seen it?
235s The real question is, though, Bobajenny, when you go to hone, where do you hone at?
241s I heard you call him Mr.
242s Modz.
243s Okay.
245s Bobajenny, you're supposed to say Punika.
247s I've heard that.
249s Stoopzz hones in Punika and Stoops is probably the person that, out of us four, who hones the most because he makes every single character.
253s Your characters juiced as hell, man.
255s I know you're a whale, man.
256s I've seen your character.
257s Where do you think I get all my qualities?
258s On Punika.
259s No man you lie - where you hone in?
260s I hone in Feiton.
262s That's where demons hone.
262s Exactly.
263s Cause I'm a demon.
264s You guys are awful at this.
265s No, you hone in Punika and you hone in Vern.
267s I don't know why you're trying to go, Yes, Arkesia is very big, it's a vast open world, we've all seen the ads.
273s I don't like honing in Vern, man, it's the land of the bots.
279s All right.
280s All I have to say is, look at all the clips at the top.
281s You know, the one taps and everything like that is always in Punika.
284s Lailai is too strong.
285s I got pretty lucky.
286s That's where I got my 100 weapon as well.
287s The only thing people are doing in Punika are role playing and having dance parties in the water Because they don't need to hone anymore.
293s They got 25+ weapons.
295s The go to Vern first to hone and then they got to Punika to hang out.
298s It's very system.
299s You look at that, look at the town.
300s It's super simple.
301s Everybody's around the zoning vendor in Vern because they're just pitying their stuff.
304s Punika They're all on the beach, chillin because it's all one taps.
306s They're done.
307s They're done.
309s You just Lailai the entire time - it's demonic.
311s I never said it...
311s *indechipherable* All right, I feel like our actual debaters for this episode are warmed up and Stoopzz has given up so I'm going to call there.
323s You're going to cut to commercial really quick and we'll be right back to you after this break on the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
339s Bobajenny said some things about me, and it really got me thinking.
346s I think I might actually be getting old. My sight, it's starting to dwindle.
352s My reactions aren't there anymore.
359s I think my f$@#$ time is actually coming near.
363s And honestly, the only thing I want is for you, the audience, to vote for me in the live finale of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
370s That's my last wish.
375s Hey, everybody.
376s My name's Grenton.
377s Are you having trouble completing your raids?
380s Are you putting all your priorities to the side to watch the Lost Art Academy Debate Club?
384s Well, don't worry.
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390s Make sure you use code GRENTON at checkout and get yourself ready for our live finale of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club in August.
396s So come on down today and get your bus passes.
399s Make sure to use code Grenton.
402s Satisfaction guaranteed.
403s Welcome back to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
406s It's time to kick off our one versus one debate today with Grenton and Bobajenny.
411s Remember, this is a structured debate, so contestant one will have one minute to make an argument.
415s Contestant two will have one minute and then both sides will have one minute each for a response.
421s So for today's debate topic, what class would you want the most experienced person in your raid to be playing?
429s I'll let you think about it, but I think it would be really interesting if we got kind of like a DPS versus support.
434s Both sides are very important, you know.
436s Think about that.
437s Pick your classes.
440s I think I'm gonna argue for my support homies.
441s Support homies.
442s All right. I'll argue for the DPS homies.
445s Perfect.
445s Sounds good.
446s So, spectators, you're going to listen into their arguments with me and then we'll discuss afterwards to decide who our Mokoko is.
453s I'll give you all a minute to strategize.
457s I think it's a pretty interesting topic.
458s I mean, if you have to choose between a DPS and support, I'd pick Gunlancer and Bard.
462s Those are my two options.
463s I feel like they have the most impactful role in the group.
466s But would you pick DPS or support?
469s If I had a pick one?
471s Support.
472s Support for sure.
472s It all depends on the raid that you're doing.
474s If you have a super juicer damage, they could definitely carry the end of some raids if everyone else ends up dying.
479s Support players, if they know to time all their skills correctly, shields, reductions.
484s I mean, lock back mechanics.
485s I mean look at our group.
487s We have Averse in our group and we still wipe it.
493s Definitely.
493s It's interesting to see what they're going to come up with.
495s All right.
496s All right.
496s And that is our minutes.
499s Bobajenny, why don't you start us off with your first argument now?
503s So I am actually going to pick a class that is super well-rounded, even though it's still considered a DPS class, which is a Gunlancer.
513s So you guys might be thinking, why the Gunlancer?
515s It's all - we're all gated by supports.
517s But if you really do think about it, aside from supports, we need Gunlancers because it can help the juicers and it could help the people that are a bit squishier.
528s Gunlancers are beefy boys.
529s They don't really die and they help the support by shielding and they help the DPS by doing damage, whether it's back attack or hit master.
540s So I feel like the Gunlancer is a really well-rounded class.
543s If someone is super experienced, they can probably play any class.
547s But if you give them something that has kind of jack-of-all-trades, then I think they can do really, really well on it.
554s Awesome.
557s Grenton, your one minute argument starts now.
559s Yeah. So this one might be a little spicy, but I'm going to choose the Artist.
562s So I feel like the Artist is probably the most impactful support in the game.
567s Not only just because it has with decent cooldown gems, not like whale cooldown gems, you always have shields up.
573s So you don't need that Gunlancer to add that damage reduction to your group.
577s Not only that, but in some of the hardest content in the game, like Brel gate six, when you're dropping those meteors, Artist has portals, so a well-experienced Artist can set you up to get out fast.
588s Keep your up time on the boss, has very strong heals, very good uptime on their DPS buffs.
593s But not only that, a big thing about Artist is that it has punching power, too.
598s I'm not sure if you guys have heard, but there was an Artist that cleared Prokel Hard, solo DPS Artist in there, so it has the flexibility.
605s So if you have those two builds you can do it.
607s But also as a dedicated support, that player could just elevate the skill of the rest of your group by just enabling them to do more damage, keeping them safe and just keeping that party going.
617s All right.
618s That was a perfect one minute.
620s Jenny, you have one minute to rebut him.
623s Well, I mean, I feel like you have pretty strong cases about the Artist, but at the same time, the Artist that did Prokel, they probably didn't go with a very standardized Artist build, which means that they are probably a little bit more useless when it comes to team fights.
637s And on top of that, you have to choose between if you want to heal someone or if you want the buff.
643s So you kind of can only have either or and not both, versus the Gunlancer has shields, taunts.
649s Taunts for Brel would be friggin amazing.
652s And when they taunt, the back attackers can actually do massive damage as well.
656s And they also have a cleanse.
658s So I feel like instead of choosing one side to play, the Gunlancer can do both.
662s And that's why I chose the Gunlancer.
665s Yeah.
666s Got a few more seconds if you want to make any last points.
669s Oh, they really just don't die.
670s They're so beefy.
671s They just tank everything.
673s They don't care.
673s So I feel like they're just very, very well rounded.
677s Perfect.
677s Perfect closing.
678s Grenton, your final minute for your final argument starts now.
682s So you're absolutely right.
683s Prokel gate tweo, the artist went in with a DPS build.
685s But guess what?
686s That's the entire fight.
687s They're not there to support their team.
688s They go in with the DPS build.
690s The top side is super easy if you have average players.
694s So they went in there, they cleaned up Prokel and they came back out.
696s But not only that, everything a Gunlancer can do besides taunt, Artist just does better.
702s They have two cleanses.
703s They have more active uptime on their shields.
705s And like I said, that damage buff that you're getting from a Gunlancer?
709s With a good Artist, they'll just enable their team to have the uptime or that damage buff is negligible, the difference between it.
716s So yeah, sure, you might have to decide between healing and juicing your party, but you have so much active mitigation as an Artist that your team doesn't really have to worry about taking that chip damage because it's going to be negated anyways and they can just focus on blasting the boss.
729s So an experienced player on Artist is going to have such a huge impact in the group.
733s And I'm sure some of you at home probably have had some experience Artists in your group and it's just a cakewalk.
738s It's a breeze.
739s Time! That was your final minute.
742s Spectators, you're going to head over to me in a minute and we're going to talk about what we just listened to.
747s So I have our spectators over here with me.
749s Let's talk about what we just heard from our debaters.
751s How are you all feeling?
752s I feel like I zoned a lot during it because Grenton was just listing all these things about - Your literal only job was to listen.
760s He was talking about juiced - so he was talking about DPS Artist and no one cares about DPS Artist.
764s And on top of that, Bobajenny was talking about beefcakes and things like that.
768s But, I do think they had a lot of good points about...
771s Bobajenny talking about the taunts being very useful, great synergy, and I get the idea of a cleanse, but I still think Artist is the worst support.
778s Do you get the the idea of a cleanse?
781s I mean every support...
782s except Bard...
783s they also have the best DPS buff in the game.
785s DatModz, how are you feeling?
786s Yeah, no, they both made very compelling arguments.
788s Grenton with the Artist with the positional of the portals allowing you on gate six, easier transition during gold war phases, and just bypassing different mechanics so you potentially die too, double cleanse, high DPS up times.
800s If you have a good support in the group it's very noticeable.
803s Not Artists though.
803s It's like they have to heal them.
804s I don't know.
805s It's pretty good.
805s How many?
806s What's the - name one good DPS...
808s name one good Artist.
809s Me.
810s You don't even have one, do you? I got one.
813s I've never played with you.
815s Well, I will say, Bobajenny did mention the DPS Artist that could clear Prokel is probably not a good Artist, and that is actually our Social Media Manager.
824s So when you watch this, I apologize.
827s Thank you for being a part of my static.
830s Anyway, anything else about how their arguments kind of made you feel, any kind of swaying you felt that maybe changed your mind?
837s Gunlancer, yeah, it's a straight up gigachad class and it's hard to argue that it's probably one of the best progression characters in the game.
843s Jack-of-all-trades.
844s Decent damage, sometimes not enough damage, but if your support player dies and everyone else is dead in your group, most of the time you can finish a fight with a Gunlancer.
854s For support, you pretty much have to wait for a sidereal tocome up in order to finish the boss or multiple sidereals.
860s I guess that's enough of that.
861s It sounds like we've come to a consensus.
864s I'll send you back over and we will decide our winner.
867s Really good arguments on both sides today.
870s You know what, Grenton?
871s Congratulations.
873s He knows.
875s Does he know?
875s How would you know?
877s I haven't told you.
878s Why are you looking at me like that?
880s Oh, you know why.
881s You know why?
882s I think I know why.
884s I think you know that I know why.
890s I don't think you know.
890s I know.
893s I'm a Reaper player.
894s I'm like, punching from the bottom of the barrel here.
896s I know.
899s I don't know what you know.
901s I don't know what you don't know.
902s You don't know either.
903s I know what I know.
904s And you know that I know that I know.
906s And I know that Grenton is a Mokoko.
910s Congratulations Bobajenny, you are not a Mokoko.
918s It's all right, Grenton.
919s Sorry.
920s That's all right.
920s All right, all right.
922s Bobajenny, you and your beefcake Gunlancers are not Mokokos today.
926s But remember, none of these debates really matter until the live season finale, where the community will vote on who is and who is not a Mokoko.
935s Thanks for joining us and we'll see you on the next episode of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
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974s Yeah.