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6s | Coming to you from the Amazon Games Community team, it's the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club! |
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12s | With your host, straight out of a rocks box, it's Roxx! |
23s | Welcome to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club. |
26s | This is where our contestants debate to prove they have what it takes not to be in Mokoko. |
30s | I'm Roxx, and I'm here to make sure Stoopzz doesn't try to sell you any more fish. |
35s | Right, Mokoko?. |
35s | Or DPS Paladins. |
38s | Good point. |
39s | And with that, let's kick off our show and bring out our first contestant. |
42s | Here is Stoopzz. |
47s | Jazz hands. |
47s | Next up, we have Grenton. |
52s | Also jazz hands. |
55s | Lots of jazz hands today. |
55s | Finally, we're bringing out Bobajenny. |
60s | Hi everyone. |
61s | And last but not least, maybe least, DatModz. |
67s | I did not mean to hesitate. |
69s | I apologize. |
70s | What did I do to deserve that? |
71s | I know. |
72s | I'm sorry. |
73s | You came out last. |
74s | It wasn't your fault. |
76s | All right, let's get right into things with our warm-up debate. |
79s | This is going to be a 2v2. |
81s | Today we have DatModz and Bobajenny versus Stoopzz and Grenton. |
85s | For today's topic, who is better to dance with - Nia or Shana? |
91s | I see wheels turning. |
92s | I see wheels turning. |
94s | Bobajenny and DatModz, I will give you both Nia. |
99s | You two take Shana. |
100s | Aw! |
102s | I sense that I've made the correct choice. |
104s | All right. |
104s | I'll give you all a minute to strategize. |
107s | We're going to counter it hopefully. |
111s | Oh. |
112s | Doesn't Nia looks like a kid? |
113s | Yeah. |
113s | Yeah. |
114s | Hey, you. |
116s | Yeah. |
117s | I mean, you staring at your computer right now. |
120s | Are you kind of sad when you watch this show because you wish you were up here and debating and sharing your opinions very loudly? |
126s | I have some good news for you. |
127s | You can debate and share your opinions very loudly - in our new Discord server. |
131s | We have a Lost Ark-specific Discord server that you can join to engage with other members of the community, talk to each other, and of course, share your own opinions and have your own debates. |
141s | Just please make sure you do it nicely or the mods will be sad. |
144s | You can join over at Discord.gg/PlayLostArk and honestly, we hope to see you there. |
150s | All right. |
150s | One team has strategized and that is good enough for me. |
154s | Remember, the only rule is that there are no rules. |
157s | Say whatever you want. |
158s | Get it all out there now so we can be super, super serious, as we always are, later. |
163s | All right, debaters, are you ready? |
165s | Yeah, we are. |
166s | Go right ahead. |
167s | Listen, I know what you guys are going to say, but Nia has no one to dance with. |
172s | No one picks Nia. |
173s | Okay? |
173s | Everyone picks Shana. |
175s | She's the cool chick. |
176s | Nia needs someone to go to the... |
178s | You don't want to see that little girl go to the dance crying. |
180s | She saved the entire village. |
181s | You're a dad. |
182s | You know what that's like. |
184s | Do you love when your kiddo's crying like that? |
186s | The basis of your argument is that the best person to dance with is a pity dance. |
191s | It's okay. |
191s | You're a chaperone. |
192s | You got to make sure - What does Shana do compared to Nia? |
195s | Shana's adventurous. |
195s | She's crazy. |
196s | She does nothing. |
197s | She just stands in the corner and does nothing. |
199s | She actually is just laying on the floor and then you have to save her. |
201s | Yeah. |
202s | You got to save her - a damsel in distress. |
204s | She's a bozo, man, you got to save her over there. |
206s | You're the hero - that's what you're supposed to do. |
208s | There's a remix online of the only thing that she says - "I smell blood" like 12 times in the story, okay? |
212s | Yeah, she's crazy. |
213s | Nia saves the village! |
216s | The thing is, when you go dance with Shana, you might go do the Lailai, but you get the salsa instead. |
220s | She did the Lailai too man, she can do a little salsa if she wants to. |
224s | She's a little reserved, she's a little stiff. |
224s | You don't think she deserves someone to dance with after saving everybody with the Albion scene? |
229s | Shana's like the extra in the movie no one likes. |
231s | No. |
232s | Still she needs someone to dance with, Mr. |
235s | Modz. |
235s | Honestly I think both choices are wrong. |
237s | I think Berver would be the best to dance with. |
240s | You look like Berver man. |
246s | And he has a ukulele - you can dance anywhere. |
249s | The right answer is Nia. |
250s | She needs a dance partner. |
252s | She needs a dance partner. |
253s | She can't go to the dance by herself, she saved the whole village. |
255s | Okay, she needs a little bit of compassion. |
258s | It's messed up. |
258s | She was crying by herself. |
259s | That's a pity dance, though. |
260s | You danced with her. |
261s | You're only dancing with Shana because you fear for your life she's going to, like, stab you or something. |
265s | That's a good reason to dance with somebody. |
269s | All right, I think that's going to do it for our warm-up debate. |
272s | I know we don't pick winners, but I DatModz won with Berver. |
276s | This is a rigged show. |
277s | Sorry, but I make the rules. |
279s | Anyway, we're going to go ahead and cut to a commercial break. |
281s | And when we get back, we'll get into our 1v1 debate. |
290s | Hey, everyone. |
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326s | And don't forget to leave a review - we've got lots of them. |
330s | Yum! |
331s | Neria's Tavern: come for the food, stay for the rapport. |
340s | So, we're gonna talk about Stoopzz. |
344s | Igo Baba. |
345s | El Shishe. |
346s | How many more names does this guy have? |
347s | How is he going to stand his ground when he can't stand on his chicken legs? |
353s | I just want to know, how is he doing that? |
356s | Maybe it's because he has $1,000,000 garage with a hot babe, but that's not the kind of guy that can see eye-to-eye with you. |
364s | I mean, I don't have that. |
366s | We can't all just be whales and keep on swiping. |
370s | We can't just sit at home and pet our cats all day. |
374s | So vote me, Bobajenny, in the live finale of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club. |
385s | All right. |
385s | Welcome back. |
386s | It is time for our 1v1 debate. |
388s | As a quick refresher, contestant one will get one minute to make an argument. |
392s | Contestant two will get one minute to make an argument, and then they will both get one minute each to argue back. |
398s | All right. |
399s | Well, Bobajenny and DatModz - today's debate topic is, which class spends the most time on the floor? |
405s | Bobojenny, what are you feeling? |
409s | Don't say it. |
412s | Reaper. |
415s | DatModz, what class do you think you'll be going with? |
418s | That's a very original choice there, Bobajenny. |
420s | I really have a lot of options. |
422s | I want to leave mine a mystery since you picked Reaper already. |
426s | I'll unleash it on you. |
429s | As long as it's not Reaper, I'll allow it. |
430s | Okay. |
431s | All right. |
431s | I'll give you both a minute to strategize. |
437s | Strategize by staring at Grenton. |
441s | Assess the Reaper. |
443s | Dude, I don't floor POV. |
444s | I'm sorry. |
446s | I'm a good Reaper, okay? |
447s | How do you feel, Grenton? |
448s | And how did that make you feel? |
450s | Business as usual. |
453s | It's not my fault the Reapers they play with have no hands. |
456s | I wonder what DatModz is going to pick though. |
458s | I don't think he ... |
460s | Gunslinger? |
461s | Has to be Gunslinger. |
464s | I don't think I have a Glaivier because then we're just going to roast him. |
468s | Which class spent the most time on the floor? |
472s | Sorcs. |
472s | Like a bad igniter Sorc that just sort of stands there? |
474s | I really do feel like it is Reaper, though. |
475s | I actually have to be honest. |
476s | I really dislike Reaper. |
477s | I mean, the only time I invite them - because there's not that many of them... |
482s | Like six. |
482s | No, but I do invite them and they end up somehow just dying. |
485s | Because you don't invite me. |
486s | I'd invite you. |
486s | We can play together. |
487s | Okay? |
488s | Yeah. |
489s | And knowing my luck I'd die. |
490s | You have to clear Gate Five first first. |
492s | Six! |
492s | I cleared Five! |
493s | I just, you know - Oh, I'm going to meet you at Gate Six? |
496s | Yeah, we can. |
496s | Okay. |
496s | Yeah. |
498s | If you can make it to the hardest gate in the game, you know, then you can - You'll carry me through? |
501s | Yeah. |
502s | All right, we're going to go ahead and get things started. |
505s | You guys feel like you've had enough time to strategize? |
508s | Yes. |
508s | Perfect. |
509s | All right, Bobajenny, you came in very confident with the Reaper, so I'm going to give you the floor first. |
515s | Your minute starts now. |
516s | Okay, So - I'm sorry - but, but, you know, in Reaper's toolkit, there's just a lot of movement speed. |
524s | And on top of that, you have to build your gauge in order to do a little bit more. |
530s | The napkin damage, maybe like a paper towel damage. |
533s | So I feel like, you know, if you're... |
535s | if you're in Brel and you have to dodge the normal attacks, you have to do, you know, all these mechs and stuff. |
541s | Sometimes you might just run into a ball, get paralyzed, get knocked off of the platform and stuff like that. |
547s | So I feel like - I feel like just in general, since you have to move around so much, then you have more chances to either die, fall off, etc. |
557s | wipe the raid, have a black and white screen. |
561s | I'm just saying. |
561s | So that is my argument for Reaper. |
564s | It's just - it's just how Reapers are. |
567s | The skill, not the player. |
568s | I'm sorry. |
570s | All right, DatModz, you have one minute starting now. |
573s | Okay, so Bobajenny, let's look at the facts of the matter. |
577s | Class survivability is a developer-based problem. |
581s | Every single class is balanced differently. |
582s | Every single class has different health pools, different health coefficients, different armor coefficients. |
588s | And this determines the class survivability and raid. |
591s | Bard being the lowest. |
591s | But fortunately for Bard, they accompany heavy armor in their setup, allowing them to be more tanky, allow them to face tank more in the company with their tool set, they survive more. |
600s | Reaper is on the low end side. |
602s | Deadeye is on the low end side. |
604s | Gunslingers on the low end side. |
605s | Yes. |
606s | Scouter is also on low end side. |
608s | True. |
609s | But they have shields to make them a little more tanky. |
612s | So that's why I think Gunslinger is the most floor POV class in the game. |
619s | But you play with Gunslingers. |
621s | Bobajenny no talking. |
622s | Sorry. |
623s | I do play with Gunslingers and it's a lot more high skill class than Reaper. |
627s | Reapers, all they do is just auto attack, basic attack, attack from the back. |
634s | All right. |
635s | DatModz that is your time. |
635s | They don't swap weapons or anything else like that. |
637s | Bobajenny, you have one minute to make your response. |
641s | You guys shut up, please. |
642s | That's the thing - you said Gunslingers, you know, you have to switch weapons and you have to, you know, close range, you know, high range and stuff like that. |
649s | Exactly. |
650s | Gunslingers have more to do, but yet Reapers die more. |
654s | So I still think Reaper is up there since you don't really find many Reapers when you, you know, for example, like pugging and stuff like that. |
663s | We don't see many Reaper players, but we do see a lot of Gunslinger players because even if they die a lot, they have a very high ceiling. |
670s | They can do massive damage so they can die a lot. |
675s | But they also do a lot of damage, whereas Reapers die a lot - period. |
680s | So I feel like generally floor POV Reaper has more movement speed. |
685s | You have to keep up the gauge, otherwise you can't really contribute to the fight. |
690s | So I still stand my ground and I think Reaper is more floor POV. |
695s | All right, DatModz, you have one minute for your final response starting now. |
699s | Okay. |
700s | But your damage doesn't matter if you're dead. |
701s | That's one of your main arguments, right? |
704s | I definitely think Gunslingers a more high skill class - you have multiple weapons you have to rotate through. |
709s | You have to keep your buffs up, you have to keep your bleeds up. |
711s | In addition to that, you also have animation lock, so you can only get out if you spacebar. |
715s | If you're in rifle form, you got to channel. |
717s | There's a lot of boss attacks that punish you. |
720s | If you're in channeling and you don't have your spacebar you get knocked or you have to use your time stop. In addition to that, Reapers - since they're a back attack ambush master class - a lot of times they're accompanied with their good friend, the blue Gunlancer. |
731s | So even though their tool kit has them always jumping and attacking from the back and using mobility skills like that to be sticking in the back more, more often than not, they have additional shields and additional damage reduction that keep them alive. |
744s | Whereas Gunslingers is not at the hit master... |
746s | hit master based class. |
748s | Righ? |
749s | And add a crit buff so usually it's paired up with like, you know, Berserkers. |
756s | A Destroyer maybe for damage down. |
758s | But never really a Gunlancer. |
761s | Time! |
761s | All right, that is your time. |
762s | I'm going to bring the spectators over so we can discuss your argument and decide on a winner. |
768s | All right, let's talk about that. |
769s | Grenton. |
770s | First of all, how are you just feeling? |
772s | It's okay. |
773s | Listen, I know Bobajenny was talking about the general Reaper population and not like the Grentons of the Reaper population. |
780s | I'm not floor POV. |
781s | Just wanted to check in. |
782s | Just wanted to check in. |
783s | But she did have some very good arguments when it comes to Reaper's kit, because all of your mobility skills, if you're playing Lunar Voice, needs to be used to build gauge so you don't really have a safe way to play. |
792s | Hunger Reaper is a little bit more forgiving, but she kind of hit the nail on the head with the mobility skills and causing you to go into mechs that you wouldn't otherwise have to. |
802s | And then DatModz, when it comes to Gunslinger, I think the biggest issue with gunslinger is the animation locks from what I see when I talk to other Gunslingers, which you really need to think farther ahead in the fight to know like, do I have time to get this entire channel off or do I have to move and micro adjust myself after? |
815s | So they both had really good arguments. |
817s | And as much as I hate to say it, Reaper is a pretty floor POV class. |
822s | It's just a hands issue or a skill issue. |
824s | Very big of you to admit that. |
825s | Yeah. |
826s | The better you get at the class the less time you'll spend on the floor. |
828s | All right, Stoopzz. |
829s | What are you thinking? |
831s | I mean DatModz kind of got shafted. |
832s | That's a hard debate. |
834s | It's not that easy to argue against the Reaper in general. |
838s | I love Gunslingers. |
839s | I think they're pretty good. |
840s | They're not usually floor POV. |
841s | I usually do see Reapers die the most - or Arcana, to be honest. |
843s | Yeah, I think he has a hard topic, so it wasn't that easy for him. |
847s | All right. |
848s | I mean, it sounds like we made a decision pretty quickly, so I'll send you back over there and we'll announce our winner. |
854s | Well, Bobajenny. |
857s | I think it's pretty obvious that you are not a Mokoko. |
860s | Sorry DatModz. |
865s | It's the only time Reapers can carry. |
868s | The debate's done. |
869s | You can stop. |
870s | She won. |
871s | She smoked you. |
873s | You're gonna get reoasted in the comments, man. |
874s | There's a lot of angry Reaper players out there. |
876s | Yeah. |
876s | Reapers roast her! |
878s | There's only five of them anyway. |
879s | Six. |
881s | All right. |
881s | Thank you for joining us for this week's episode of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club. |
885s | But remember, none of these arguments matter, because what does matter is the season finale, which will be live where you, the community, will vote on who is not in a Mokoko. |
894s | We'll see you next week. |
900s | Dance break. |
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