Lost Ark Academy Debate Club - Finale Remix | Lost Ark Dev Tracker

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1s	I'm the Aeromancer, here to give you the weather in Mokoko Village.
8s	Oh, looks like the Lost Ark creators are finally back in Arkesia after a few months away.
14s	Datmodz has been dwelling in darkness, much to the surprise of no one, especially after only winning one debate.
22s	He's been blown away by all the competition.
25s	Well, but Bobajenny has a sunny disposition.
28s	But in truth, only coldness radiates from her heart.
32s	As expected, Stoopzz is as loud as a thunderstorm.
35s	Let's just move away from that.
38s	Oh, I think there's some beautiful sun over there.
42s	No, no, it's just Grenton's big ******* forehead.
46s	I'm Aeromancer with the turbulent weather forecast of Mokoko Village.
54s	12 weeks ago, the Amazon Games Community Team set off on a wild journey to try something new, something silly, something experimental.
63s	Four Lost Ark creators joined us in Mokoko Village across 24 debates, all in the aim of determining who is and who is not a Mokoko.
74s	Is a Mokoko.
74s	Congratulations Bobajenny!
79s	Hahaha.
80s	None of that matters now.
81s	It was all a rehearsal for today.
84s	Who's it going to be?
86s	Bobajenny.
87s	I am having a ******* great time.
90s	It's ******* rigged.
91s	Grenton.
92s	I'm humble.
93s	I know my place.
93s	You're talking a lot of smack behind that mushroom.
97s	Stoopzz.
98s	That's why I'm here baby, let's go!
99s	Ah!
99s	Datmodz.
101s	Look no further.
102s	Pull out your axe, Whack 'em in the back.
104s	Let's find out.
106s	Coming to you from the Amazon Games Community Team.
108s	It's the live finale of the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club!
116s	You seem pretty ready.
117s	I'm losing control of my life.
117s	You want horses?
118s	We got horses.
119s	CAW, CAW, CAW.
120s	No, no, no, no.
120s	It's like.
124s	Lost in the mushroom forest.
126s	Well we can't all be emotionally stable, Michael.
131s	I keep winning, this ** easy as **.
136s	You know that's weird!
140s	You're losing your sanity.
145s	Why are you like this?
147s	He's talking to me, I'm just standing here.
148s	I think you're just scared to go back to the fun house.
154s	And now, the moment you've all been waiting for.
157s	It's your emcee Kanon.
161s	Hi guys.
161s	My name is Kanon, and welcome to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
166s	We've got a great show ready for you guys today.
168s	And I do want to mention that we've got some drops, a couple of drops, exclusive drops, I believe.
173s	But before we get started, I want to introduce you guys to a special guest.
181s	Oh.
182s	Hello there.
183s	Good to see all of you.
185s	My name is Balthorr, and I want to sing you a very special song.
193s	It's a beautiful song.
195s	Sing along, if you will.
197s	Light the lights, see how they gleam.
199s	Let the community see yus stream.
201s	Lost Ark debates and stupid memes.
203s	Get ready to vote for our last fever dream.
208s	Ohoho.
209s	Oh!
210s	Will Datmodz win?
211s	It's hard to say.
212s	He's one of six.
213s	And that's just okay.
215s	Only Bobajenny's made time to play.
217s	She won four debates.
218s	It could be her day.
223s	Oh!
223s	Or Grenton might take the crown.
227s	Tied with Jenny, but with a frown.
230s	Don't doubt, fivehead, or you'll surely fail.
233s	We will watch as Stoopzz becomes increasingly exasperated that he's a Mokoko.
242s	He's a Mokoko!
243s	The vote is up to you.
247s	Haha, haha.
247s	Oh, the vote is up to you.
251s	Yes!
253s	Oh, Roxx is back to host with a broken watch in her hands.
258s	The passive aggressive Roxx is back again.
263s	Roxx is back to host— Stop, stop, stop.
268s	Okay, okay.
269s	Can you stop?
270s	That was really mean.
272s	YUh, you threw off my groove.
274s	What groove?
275s	You just said I was passive aggressive.
277s	You're very passive aggressive, and you're being a little passive aggressive right now.
280s	I think I'm just being aggressive.
284s	You know what?
285s	Thank you, Bathorr, for whatever that was.
289s	I appreciate the effort and not much else.
293s	Anyway, welcome back to the Lost Ark Academy Debate Club.
297s	I'm so excited to be here and bringing you all the live finale where you will finally, finally, finally have it proved to you that this is not rigged.
306s	Kanon, why don't you come join me over here?
308s	Let's tell the viewers what they can expect.
312s	Yeah, um, I thought Datmodz was supposed to be Balthorr.
315s	Who's that guy?
316s	That's— that's Balthorr.
320s	Datmodz is not Balthorr.
320s	Yes.
323s	Datmodz is not Balthorr, they just both have beards.
324s	Okay.
325s	All right.
326s	Very attractive beards.
328s	I mean, it's a nice beard.
330s	It's a nice beard.
331s	Yeah.
331s	No, that's Datmodz.
333s	No, that's not Datmodz.
334s	That's definitely not Datmodz.
335s	That's Balthorr!
336s	Datmodz is coming later.
336s	Dat Balthorr.
336s	You're throwing me off my game already!
339s	I apologize.
339s	I apologize.
340s	I'm here to help you, not to distract you.
342s	Sorry.
342s	It's okay.
342s	Datmodz is important.
344s	He'll be showing up a little bit later, but our viewers can expect kind of a similar format to what they saw all season.
349s	We'll start with a warm up debate where everyone will be able to get it all out of their systems, figure out— we'll get you.
356s	We'll make sure you know who Datmodz actually is, and then we'll have six 1v1 debates so everyone can kind of prove themselves one more time, go up against each other, make their final arguments, and try to convince the audience that you or they are not a Mokoko.
371s	From there, viewers will actually vote on the winner of each debate and Kanon will talk a little bit more about how that will work later.
379s	But before we get started, you know, I just wanted to take a minute to thank the community team that we've been working with here.
384s	It's a team I'm part of, and honestly, the people behind the scenes are just some of the most professional individuals I've ever worked with.
391s	They're so organized.
392s	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
393s	Stop, stop, stop!
394s	Oh, no, no, That's embarrassing.
399s	Oh.
402s	Okay.
402s	And you know what?
403s	Anyway.
404s	I think we should just move on.
405s	Yeah.
406s	I'm sure they'll be fine back there.
408s	You know what?
409s	Let's go ahead and bring out debaters.
411s	I think it's about that time.
413s	We have four debaters here today who you should all be very familiar with.
417s	And they were all still playing Lost Ark when we contracted them.
421s	So first up, we're going to bring out Grenton.
425s	Sorry, there's only a couple of us to clap for you so far.
430s	It's the entire Reaper population.
431s	It's the entire— There are literally dozens of you.
433s	Literally dozens of reapers.
435s	That's true.
436s	And you're one of those dozens.
438s	You know, you've won quite a few debates throughout the season, but like Balthorr said earlier, you're feeling pretty, pretty down.
446s	You frown a lot.
447s	How are you feeling coming into today?
449s	I'm not going to be toxic at all today.
453s	Are you sure?
455s	To you?
455s	Maybe, but no one else.
457s	Great.
457s	Well, how are you feeling about your chances at the finale?
462s	I mean, the show is rigged, so I already know who's going to win.
465s	Twitch chat is literally voting for the winners I have— I don't think anyone has any control over Twitch chat.
472s	So you think?
474s	Well, I guess we'll find out.
475s	Not a very compelling argument.
477s	We'll see how they get swayed.
479s	We're going to move right along and bring out our next contestant.
482s	Next up, we have Bobajenny.
486s	Hey, guys.
488s	Hi, Bobajenny, welcome.
490s	You have just as many wins from across the season as Grenton does.
494s	How are you kind of feeling going into today?
495s	Those are the two highest numbers of wins.
498s	I mean, the whole time I wanted to be not Grenton, but somehow we're at the same spot.
504s	I don't know how I feel about that, but let's do our best.
508s	Very valid.
509s	Grenton, I know you said you wouldn't be toxic today, but Bobajenny apparently is still going with those smear campaigns she did all season.
516s	It clearly didn't work for her, we're still tied.
517s	I guess we'll find out.
519s	We'll find out after the audience votes today.
522s	Thank you for coming out.
523s	Next up, we're going to bring in Stoopzz.
529s	Full speed.
532s	Skrrrrt.
532s	Gotta put me up to the line, man.
534s	Yo!
537s	Are you crazy, man?
538s	Let's not drop our debaters.
540s	Thank you for joining us, Stoopzz.
541s	Welcome back.
542s	You are sitting squarely in the middle of the pack based on your performance this season.
547s	Are you making fun of me because I'm in the wheelchair?
549s	No, I just— that's literally, like, how many debates you won.
552s	What does that have to do with your...?
553s	"You're sitting in the middle of the pack?" Oh.
556s	Well, that's awkward.
557s	No, I wasn't.
558s	But I'm sorry I made you feel that way.
560s	I'm sorry you feel that way.
561s	I thought I did great on the show.
563s	You know, you do have the highest number in the show of claims that it's rigged.
567s	So you won at something.
568s	But you do decide— you did decide who won.
570s	Like that.
571s	Did I?
571s	You guys came over and told me every time.
572s	We did like a rehearsal of the show twice yesterday, and Mr.
575s	Modz won both times in the rehearsal.
578s	He got of the stars.
579s	I got zero.
581s	But it wasn't real.
583s	I'm saying it's rigged, though.
584s	Even when the show is not live, it's rigged.
587s	All right, anyway.
588s	Hello, man.
592s	Okay, we're going to keep moving on.
593s	Finally, we're going to bring out Datmodz.
595s	Datmodz, let's bring some positivity here.
602s	Oh, surprise!
604s	It's me!
604s	I bet no one expected the shadowy hooded figure to be me, Datmodz.
608s	Hello, Mr.
609s	Stoopzz.
609s	You were supposed to say, surprise, motha sucker.
611s	That was what you were supposed to say.
612s	Surprise mother licker.
616s	Please don't fire me.
618s	All right, Datmodz, welcome.
619s	Thank you for bringing out Stoopzz.
622s	You have only won one debate all season.
625s	Just one.
626s	So you're coming in as kind of an underdog.
627s	How 'bout you chill for a second here.
628s	Okay.
629s	It's not about who is winning or losing.
632s	What really matters is the fun and the memories you made along the way.
636s	And, yeah, I might be the underdog.
638s	I might have taken a lot of L's, but it's not over till it's over.
642s	And everyone loves a good comeback story.
644s	There you go!
645s	Don't say that.
645s	You ditched me last week.
646s	We were supposed to do Akkan together and you ditched me.
648s	What about memories and friends?
650s	Yeah.
650s	We have to talk about that later, I did cheat on you and Akkan with Zeals and Memo, which our raid did go quicker than yours.
657s	No, it didn't.
657s	We went faster.
658s	I watched.
659s	No.
659s	I checked the VOD.
660s	They're like a married couple.
661s	They really are.
662s	We're gonna have to have a fact check on this.
664s	I love Mr.
664s	Modz.
665s	Well, we'll have somebody, maybe Tom back there, will fact check that.
668s	But you know, Datmodz, thank you for joining us.
672s	Try not to tear down the set.
675s	Global warming.
676s	There are— those plants are very important.
679s	Now that we have all our debaters up.
682s	You guys are already feeling a little bit feisty, so we're going to go ahead and move into our warm up debate.
688s	So while Datmodz gets ready and gets sweaty, I'm gonna give you guys the warm up topic for you to think about.
695s	So today's warm up topic is: Should wipe mechanics be removed from the raid entirely?
700s	Remember, this is going to be your first 2v2 debate.
703s	The only rule is that there are no rules.
705s	Do what you want.
706s	Try to be nice to each other.
708s	Please.
708s	Like at least a little bit.
710s	But this is the last time you will be in teams together.
712s	So we'll have Grenton and Bobajenny behind the rock, Datmodz and Stoopzz behind the bongo— Stoopzz, are you okay?
719s	A little gassy.
720s	You were making a weird face.
725s	Those donuts earlier, Idunno.
727s	I thought Balthorr was going to be the stinky one today.
728s	Yeah.
729s	As long as you don't smell as bad as Balthorr I think you're fine.
732s	Oh, it's worse.
733s	Oh, no, no.
734s	That's saying a lot.
735s	All right, well, think about your warm up debate topic again.
739s	That will be: What would be— oh, no, it's not.
741s	I lied.
744s	"Should all of the wipe mechanics be removed from Lost Ark?" That is your warm up debate topic.
750s	Think about it for a couple of minutes.
751s	Talk amongst yourselves.
752s	And while you do that, Kanon is going to tell the viewers at home how they'll be able to vote once the real debates get started.
758s	Sure, sure.
759s	Yeah.
759s	So most of you guys are familiar with the Twitch interface.
762s	Once they're done debating, check the top of chat.
765s	You'll see a menu there.
766s	You click that and then you'll select who you think had the best defense.
771s	I want to, I want to mention this, but these debates and these takes that the content creators are giving, they're not necessarily reflective of their own personal opinions or Amazon or Smilegate for that matter.
787s	They are assigned topics and takes that they have to defend.
791s	So when you vote, be sure to vote on who you think defended or argued their give and take the best.
798s	Totally.
799s	Debate club, not be correct club.
801s	Right.
801s	Absolutely.
802s	All right, debaters, are we feeling warmed up?
805s	I hear a little bit of chatter, but how do we feel?
809s	I feel ready to go.
810s	Do you still feel gassy?
812s	I let it out.
814s	Oh, no.
815s	I'm so happy I'm over her.
816s	Yeah, me, too.
818s	You're gonna have to come over here soon.
820s	Hopefully it's gone by then.
822s	As long as we're ready to do that warm up debate, I'm going to pull out my— Balthorr, this is very much not a broken watch.
829s	It still works.
830s	Well, it looks broken.
831s	You probably can't see this far with your beady little eyes.
835s	But I assure you, the watch still works.
838s	So we're going to get right into it with our warm up debate.
841s	Again, the only rule: there are no rules.
843s	Let it all out of your system now, including that gas, and have the floor.
849s	That's not an easy way to start the conversation.
851s	They should be removed.
852s	Okay, they suck.
853s	No one really likes them.
854s	It's a lot of artificial difficulty.
856s	And in a game like Lost Ark where it's about re-clearing raids and going through them and a bunch of different characters, having...
862s	when everyone knows how to do the raid, having like even in Vykas where you can wipe the entire raid at that point where you're like 100 ilvls over it.
868s	I don't think it fits the mold of the game.
870s	I think you can still have fun doing raids without having a mechanic that wipes everybody.
876s	But having a wipe mechanic allows players to really know the raid, though, because they know.
881s	Does it?
881s	What do you mean?
882s	Yeah, because you know when it's coming up.
884s	What does that mean?
885s	If you're a mech do-er— Explain what that means.
887s	Listen, one second Akkan, for example.
889s	Okay?
890s	Okay.
890s	Gate 3 does— Not have white mechanics.
892s	It does, with the statue mech.
893s	Which one?
894s	But it happens very early in the flight, so I don't think it should be removed.
896s	But I don't think you should get like 8 minutes into a fight and then the wipe mechanic happens because then you have to re-prog another 8 minutes.
902s	But if it happens early, I think it's still good.
903s	Why does Vykas have wipe mechanics?
905s	We don't talk about Vykas.
906s	I just want to talk about this for a second.
908s	Valtan: one of the best raids in the entire game.
910s	Yeah?Okay.
911s	It's fun and engaging for new players.
913s	People can make mistakes.
915s	People aren't going to get gatekept too much because they're not going to be deterred from doing the raids, because if one gigachad is in the raid, they'll be able to clear everything for everybody.
923s	Have you ever done the final phase and been the only person alive on the final platform?
927s	Of course.
927s	Yeah, because the player skill prevails.
931s	And, the most important thing is— You have a really good view from that, usually, right?
934s	Because you're dead.
935s	Ooh.
935s	Hey, all I remember is carrying you in hard mode.
938s	Listen, all that matters.
940s	You were dead for how long?
942s	Games are about having fun, right?
943s	And that's an anti fun mechanic.
946s	You just want to go in there and enjoy your time.
947s	And if you're re-clearing raids, I don't want one person to wipe away, and a lot more people would be more likely to bring in like, new players if I knew that new player couldn't wipe the entire raid.
956s	You're right, because the game respects your time.
957s	So yeah sure, there's no— I mean, if there is one mechanic, it's going to be hard to bus.
962s	Yeah, but listen, you have fun, engaging mechanics, okay?
967s	That don't punish everybody for one person's mistake.
971s	But that's the challenge of it, though.
972s	That's what makes Lost Ark different from other games.
974s	So one person's cat sitting on their keyboard while they're raiding and doing a raid, wiping everybody...
978s	You're not explaining why it's good, though.
979s	You look at— Look at Akkan's wipe mechanic.
983s	Why is it good?
984s	Okay, maybe I'm biased because I solved that when we were doing it blind.
988s	But like.
988s	No, it's an easy mechanic, right?
990s	You press G and spin the statue.
992s	Explain to me why it's good.
993s	What makes a wipe mechanic good?
995s	It's because it's a, it's a hard cap.
996s	If you can't get that you can't continue.
999s	You just have to do the mech!
999s	There's a lot of other mechs that can be a hard cap where it doesn't wipe the entire raid.
1003s	Like what?
1003s	Even in Valtan if you can't survive the ghost phase...
1006s	Why are you talking about the first Legion Raid?
1007s	They re-released it, but they re-released it and people like it.
1010s	You're like, "back in my day".
1012s	How many people don't do clown, got get gatekept at clown because there are so many wipe mechs?
1016s	You just skip every mech now.
1017s	Yeah, that's true.
1018s	There's still people that don't go into clown because they can't get past Mario 1 and 2.
1021s	They're scared.
1023s	Then maybe they should just get good.
1023s	You can still make fun raids— All right, that's gonna do it.
1027s	Just don't be bad at the game and you'll be fine.
1028s	All right.
1029s	Well, then you get to, like, the ten people left in Punika.
1031s	You want to have more people playing the game.
1034s	Who stays in Punika?
1034s	Not anymore.
1036s	You are all really passionate about this.
1037s	The HH's?
1037s	I don't know.
1037s	Lailai!
1037s	I feel like everybody is warm.
1039s	Don't worry.
1040s	You'll be able to all argue with each other later, I assure you.
1042s	All right.
1043s	Grenton, I thought you said you weren't going to be toxic today.
1045s	Yeah, I lasted a whole 5 minutes.
1046s	I don't even think you made it 5 minutes.
1049s	That warm up debate was not 5 minutes.
1050s	And you came out swinging.
1051s	That was a little bit longer than a minute?
1053s	That was too long.
1054s	There's no rules in the warm up debate.
1056s	Yeah.
1057s	Are you trying to make rules?
1058s	No.
1058s	I got you a flower.
1060s	I'm sorry.
1060s	I'll put it on your coffin when I bury you.
1062s	Oh, my God.
1063s	Jesus Christ.
1064s	I thought.
1065s	Okay, I know what I'm going to have to talk to, Grenton.
1068s	We're going to take a quick break before we get into the first three official matches where there are rules.
1074s	We'll talk about that in a minute.
1076s	While we take that break, we're going to go ahead and cut to Balthorr at his live support center.
1081s	Yes, Yes.
1082s	Thank you, Roxx.
1084s	I can hear you.
1085s	We're coming at you live from our Twitch channel.
1087s	And welcome to Balthorr's Live Support Center for Salty Players.
1093s	Well, it looks like we got a lot of salty players in the Twitch chat here.
1097s	Ooh, we've got Mike Spicy saying "Commercial break." Hey, baby.
1102s	How you doing?
1104s	Oh, oh, we've got.
1106s	Oh, Jencrimson making a cringe face.
1108s	I like that.
1109s	You sound like a salty personality.
1112s	Ooh.
1113s	Ohoho, you want some fries for that salt?
1120s	Ooh, we've got so many people.
1121s	All the comments are coming in like, like a wild fire.
1124s	Oh, Balthorr, be a chad and remove— Wait a second.
1129s	We're not going to remove nothing, but I can be a chad.
1132s	Anything for you.
1134s	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
1135s	Oh, we got some more people.
1137s	I see you RecallYT.
1139s	You are beautiful.
1140s	Hold on.
1141s	I'm going to— let me just.
1145s	Yep.
1145s	Yes, Hello?
1147s	Yeah.
1147s	Police.
1148s	Yeah.
1148s	There's a lot of salty people in the chat here, but it looks like we're going to need somebody to call the WAHmbulance for a lot of these people.
1157s	Like Hopo0815.
1160s	Recall what a noob.
1164s	Haha, we have so many— Show my hammer!
1170s	Something sad about my hammer.
1172s	Long story short, my hammer has disappeared.
1175s	But I have brought a different weapon.
1179s	It is a smaller hammer.
1183s	It's not the size of the boat.
1185s	It's the motion of the ocean.
1187s	Don't quote me.
1189s	Back to the Twitch chat.
1191s	Oh, so many angry people.
1192s	Look at all that salt.
1194s	Do we have any water?
1196s	Droplet tears for all you salty players or maybe a salt shaker?
1201s	Let's see all the salt shakers.
1203s	Ohohoho.
1203s	Aww, you gonna cry?
1208s	Oh you can't, you can't win the raid?
1210s	Oh, why don't you just go to, I don't know, drink some ale at a bar?
1216s	You know, maybe you could meet me there.
1218s	You know, we could have a jolly old time.
1221s	Oh, look at all this salt.
1223s	Ooh, smells like victory.
1228s	Ah yes.
1229s	You know, this reminds me of a beautiful song.
1232s	I wrote it for this very moment, and it's going to be the most exciting song that you really love.
1239s	Wait a second.
1240s	Balthorr you look cute today?
1242s	Okay.
1243s	L, is for the way you look at— What was that?
1248s	Oh we're, we're done.
1249s	Okay?
1250s	And that's all for Balthorr's Live Support Center.
1252s	Back to you in the studio.
1257s	Thank you Balthorr for reading that Twitch chat so the rest of us don't have to, and managing all those salty players.
1265s	They're my salty babies.
1268s	Okay, maybe keep that to yourself next time, but we appreciate you.
1273s	Now that we're back from that quick break, we are going to get into our first 1v1 debate.
1279s	We're going to have Stoopzz and Datmodz who are already in position.
1281s	You'll be taking the first debate of the live finale.
1284s	How are you feeling about that?
1286s	He just called my editor a noob.
1288s	Recall, dude, that's crazy.
1290s	You got roasted by like the homeless Santa Claus.
1292s	That's crazy, dude.
1294s	Sometimes the truth is necessary, though.
1296s	I know.
1297s	Recall does suck though.
1297s	I've never even seen him raid before.
1299s	He's not that good.
1300s	Yeah.
1300s	I mean, I'm not great, but he's also not great.
1302s	I'm not good either.
1302s	But, you know, that's why you have strong friends.
1307s	Damn Recall you got roasted.
1307s	Okay, anyways.
1308s	Well, hopefully you are more ready for the debate than you are for your raiding parties, apparently.
1315s	Your topic for the first debate is going to be: What would be the best way to bring players back to the game?
1321s	We'll give you kind of a minute to think.
1323s	Not to each other.
1324s	You're debating against each other, but, you know, with yourselves and then we'll get right to it.
1328s	He already knows what I'm going to say anyway.
1330s	Yeah, I already know what you're going to say.
1331s	Yeah.
1332s	We always talk about this.
1332s	Take a minute to strategize anyway.
1335s	So Kanon, this is a pretty important topic, I think.
1338s	It is.
1339s	Bringing new players back to the game, well not new players necessarily, but bringing players back to the game is always super important.
1346s	Always going to be important.
1348s	Yeah, it's arguably the most important thing about the game, really any MMORPG.
1354s	The thing is, Stoopzz is pretty passionate about this subject, so I mean, he's going to probably say the same thing he always says on every single one of his streams.
1361s	Give a very passionate, inspirational take on the matter.
1367s	But the thing is, see, I don't know if you guys have been watching the other episodes from the Debate Club, but Datmodz, the man is a walking W.
1376s	He's deliberately lost all of his debates.
1378s	You said that live?
1378s	Deliberately, deliberately, lost.
1382s	And then he's just going, to he's just going to come out with some W takes.
1385s	So it'll be very interesting.
1387s	Alright.
1389s	All that copium going on in there.
1390s	Hey listen.
1391s	Listen, you see the color of this?
1393s	You see the color of yours?
1395s	This means that when I speak, you have to...
1399s	You gotta zip it, man.
1400s	Feeling lightheaded?
1401s	Listen, let.
1402s	Let the professionals talk.
1404s	She's behind the booth.
1405s	You're just standing there awkwardly.
1405s	No, I like this.
1406s	Somebody's finally supporting me.
1406s	What you gotta call me out on that man?
1409s	She has a whole set up, and you're just standing there like a plus one.
1412s	Yeah, but like, look.
1414s	Okay, let's.
1415s	Let's go on with this.
1415s	All right.
1416s	Well, I do appreciate your support.
1417s	And it sounds like, you know, both of these players kind of had pretty strong opinions on it.
1422s	So we'll see how they do during the debate.
1424s	Are you both feeling ready?
1426s	Yeah.
1426s	We are ready.
1427s	I'm ready to rumble.
1428s	All right.
1429s	Stoopzz is going to go first.
1429s	I'm going first.
1430s	Yeah, you're going first.
1431s	Stoopzz is going first?
1432s	Okay, sure.
1432s	By all means, Stoopzz, your first minute starts now.
1435s	I think it's a pretty hard topic to solve.
1437s	You know, it's not easy to bring people back into a game after they— Look me in the eyes when you're talking to me.
1441s	I'm nervous.
1443s	You're bullying me.
1443s	I'm in a wheelchair.
1444s	Okay, let me do my thing.
1445s	He's wasting— He's not allowed to interrupt me.
1448s	Stop arguing, you're— Can we restart?
1450s	Stoopzz, your one minute starts now.
1451s	Don't talk over each other.
1453s	Look in my beady eyes, bearded man.
1455s	It's not easy.
1456s	It's not an easy task to bring people back into the game.
1458s	Right.
1459s	I don't want look in your eyes makes you uncomfortable.
1461s	It's not an easy task with people back in the game.
1463s	People, when they've decided to stop playing a game.
1466s	It's very unlikely to them to, like reinstall or try out the game.
1468s	But the problem is in MMOs there is so much vertical progression that you can't just hop into the game and start playing.
1474s	And so with Lost Ark specifically, there's so many systems, so many materials that you need, so much horizontal content that you need that, to like tell a new player to get into the game, like yo, come into the game a year later.
1486s	They're not going to want to do that.
1487s	So a lot of MMOs, what they offer are expansions where somebody can hop in.
1490s	And there are so many people that played Lost Ark in the past and people that might be interested in playing today, but when they find out how much or how far they're behind, they're not going want to do it.
1499s	So for me, the best way to do it is obviously continue to revamp a lot of the systems like the dailies, to make them stay longer when they get in the game, but also offer a reset of some sort like season three or Tier four.
1511s	I think that would be the best way to get people back in the game.
1513s	Alright, that was your first minute.
1514s	Datmodz, your first minute to make your argument starts now.
1518s	Okay.
1519s	No, that is definitely one approach.
1520s	I do agree with some of that, but I think there is another way to do it because you don't want to punish the long term player.
1526s	MMOs are about the longevity, your experience, getting your achievements, right, doing all the raids, right, getting all your character progress, getting your gems and everything else like that.
1534s	But the problem is new players, there is that vertical hurdle that they do have to overcome and you do want the game to be inviting to the new players.
1542s	So what I think the correct approach would be is not remove the long term players grind that they worked so hard for.
1549s	I think what they should do is just revamp some of the more punishing systems for new players, such as revamping the card system where instead of just giving straight up power to the players, maybe it's more of a utility system.
1559s	So people aren't like, "Hey man, this guy wants to raid Brelshaza.
1563s	Oh, but he doesn't got LOS30.
1565s	We're not going to take him." And they just add a more utility side of that aspect.
1569s	And then also just introducing more system to assist new players in with progressing the game like recently there was the 1540 powerpass, right?
1577s	You're getting free level seven gems there!
1579s	Or you get free 1540 too, so you can pretty much do almos every single raod all the way up to Kayangel and then you just have to do a little bit more honing to get up to 1580 to do the new raid.
1587s	All right.
1588s	That was your minute.
1590s	Stoopzz.
1590s	You have one minute to make a rebuttal.
1592s	Yeah, it's a good point.
1593s	But the reality is that you could give anybody all the gear, all the gems, whatever.
1597s	But as soon as they see that you're roster level ten, or whatever you're at to show that you haven't been playing the game, you can't buy the knowledge, right?
1604s	And so when you don't have the knowledge, it doesn't matter if someone's super juiced up like nobody in the chat is going to take somebody that's 1600 but has never done a raid.
1612s	Because if they haven't done the raid, they're going to wipe you.
1614s	And with the wipe mechanics, the raid wide wipe mechanics for one person to wipe the whole raid, you don't want to waste time with that person no matter how geared they are.
1621s	Right.
1621s	So the reality is you have to reset the knowledge.
1624s	You have to get people to go into new raids and learn together.
1627s	And yes, at some point, right.
1628s	It's every MMO, there's always going to be gatekeeping, there's always going to be a knowledge gap, but you have to reset it frequently enough for then people to hop back in.
1635s	Dude, every MMO is like this.
1637s	You look at it like, Oh well, I'll wait till the expansion drop.
1640s	I'll wait for the next season, I'll wait for the next tier.
1641s	And Tier three has gone on too long.
1644s	And so they need to look to implement Tier four for new people to come back into the game.
1648s	And then, yeah, let's get rid of those systems.
1650s	All right that is your one minute.
1651s	All the extra horizontal but, a reset of knowledge is the most important thing.
1654s	Perfect timing.
1655s	All right.
1656s	Datmodz, you have one final minute to make your last response.
1660s	That is true.
1660s	Roster level is definitely one of the pain points for new players.
1663s	They see, hey, this guy has the item levels, he has some gems.
1666s	He doesn't have cards and he doesn't have roster levels.
1668s	That's something I think they definitely need to actively revamp to help the new players enter the game more easily.
1674s	Another thing that they could do, because it's an MMO, it's about community, about playing with each other.
1678s	They could add some mentor systems in the game.
1680s	Well, maybe like, Hey, there's a new player.
1682s	He hasn't done the raid.
1684s	You know, you have the different buffs are ready for those new players to take less damage.
1688s	They're going to have the cheat death mechanics.
1690s	So like when they do die in the raid, they actually are resurrected.
1693s	I think having like a mentor system where they could like scale up new players power level to the person leading a raid would kind of be helpful, and then it would help them introduce in the raid.
1703s	And then you can also add some reward system for these mentor players.
1706s	So these new players that want to learn the raids, you have an experienced guy leading them through there and maybe they get some extra gold or they get some cards to help them out.
1714s	All right.
1715s	That is your one minute as well.
1716s	That was pretty succinct.
1717s	Good job.
1718s	All right.
1719s	We are now turning it to the audience.
1721s	Twitch audience.
1723s	Be sure to look for that poll you are going to be voting on who is and who is not a Mokoko, or just more simply put, who won this first debate.
1731s	So that was kind of a lot of ideas floating around there.
1734s	What do you think, Kanon?
1734s	Yeah, I'll be honest.
1737s	I personally, if I if I may inject my own personal opinion, I think I'm actually in favor of Stoopzz's take there.
1744s	But again, it's not about their beliefs.
1747s	They're they're they're they're going.
1749s	They are there defending a give and take.
1752s	Right.
1752s	So I would definitely agree with with Stoopzz's there.
1756s	But I think that Datmodz did a pretty good job defending his point.
1760s	All right.
1760s	Fair enough.
1761s	Yeah.
1761s	These folks, remember, it's important to remember they're debating different things.
1764s	Some they might not believe in, some they may.
1767s	I help you both believe in bringing new players back to the game in general, though, that would be ideal.
1772s	We've gotta bring Mr.
1773s	Modz back to the game.
1776s	I did Akkan.
1777s	Without me!
1778s	Yeah, I played with some better Korean players.
1780s	Yeah.
1781s	I see you were dead at the end.
1783s	I would've restarted the raid for you if you didn't make it to the end.
1785s	I was on the MVP system.
1787s	I was on the family photo at the end.
1788s	It shows how good your other teammates were.
1789s	For what, stagger?
1790s	For damage, Grenton, something you don't know about.
1795s	Well.
1796s	You can't turn into a bear in this game.
1800s	All right, While those votes are trickling in, are there any other thoughts you kind of want to share?
1805s	Kanon, how are you feeling so far?
1807s	That was just our first debate.
1808s	So it could be anyone's game.
1810s	I think it's going to start getting a little heated, to be honest, because when we're going through this yesterday, this was.
1817s	It was a very different culture.
1819s	Let me just tell you that this was— they actually— I feel like there was a lot of effort put into that talk that they just had.
1826s	It was actually a serious talk.
1827s	I thought it was just going to be kind of a...
1830s	I mean we get serious time when it's time for serious debates.
1831s	It is.
1832s	I mean, Grenton was very toxic yesterday, but you were doing, you were doing good today, even though you got a little spicy during the warm up debate.
1839s	I'm never toxic.
1841s	He said he was going to bury me.
1842s	What do you mean?
1843s	He still is toxic?
1844s	I mean.
1845s	He's doing better.
1846s	And Kanon said Datmoz is a walking W seven times so far.
1850s	He said that line like five times yesterday.
1854s	Listen, it's not about being nontoxic instantly.
1855s	It's about the progression.
1856s	Okay.
1857s	So what happens if you beat the walking W?
1859s	I'm setting you up, man.
1863s	Alright, so it looks like we're about ready to find out who is or has...
1867s	I guess you can be a W, as Kanon's decided, the first W of the day.
1871s	That's a W.
1872s	It is!
1877s	Datmodz.
1879s	You are the first to Mokoko.
1881s	Oh, my God.
1883s	Stoopzz you won the debate.
1883s	Oh, yeah.
1884s	Oh, baby.
1885s	Really?
1886s	Kanon's going to come give you a gold star.
1886s	Wait, I thought you were saying this is rigged.
1888s	I think this is rigged, I agree with you now.
1890s	This dink-donker, what you are talking about?
1894s	This is the first time I've gotten one of these.
1895s	We did this before.
1896s	This is the first.
1897s	I'm.
1898s	I'm not.
1898s	I'm serious.
1898s	Doesn't it feel better that you beat a walking W?
1901s	I got none yesterday.
1904s	You got one yesterday.
1904s	They're giving you pity votes.
1906s	This is leftover, huh?
1906s	No, I think Kanon's right, though.
1908s	The way he's hyping up Datmodz, you've got to be like.
1910s	Feeling like yeah, you did it.
1912s	He's just getting pity votes.
1913s	I can't control Twitch chat, and I would not like to try.
1918s	All right.
1919s	We're going to move right ahead.
1920s	Congratulations on your first win to our second official debate.
1925s	He's so happy.
1925s	We're going to have Grenton and Bobajenny, who are already in place.
1929s	Thank you very much.
1930s	Oh!
1930s	For our next official debate, your topic will be: Is too much of Lost Ark based on RNG?
1938s	So I'll give you both a minute to kind of think about that.
1941s	Think about your points.
1942s	Yeah, look at that.
1942s	They're thinking already and we'll go from there.
1946s	You know what, Balthorr, actually, why don't you come over here?
1949s	You're not really doing much over there.
1950s	Over there?
1951s	Yeah, to my mushrom.
1951s	You want me?
1952s	Over there?
1953s	Yeah.
1953s	Okay.
1954s	All right.
1955s	Just don't mind me.
1957s	You look so different in person.
1959s	Oh, thank you.
1961s	In a good way.
1961s	Hey, I like your beard, brother.
1963s	Same to you there, sir.
1964s	Hey, brother.
1966s	Thank you.
1966s	Keep it on, big man.
1967s	I will.
1968s	Don't worry about me, baby.
1969s	Thank you.
1970s	Thank you for joining us over here at our mushroom.
1973s	You know, I just.
1973s	I figured, you know, you might be a good person to talk a little bit about this.
1977s	RNG, is that something you feel like has impacted your experience in Arkesia?
1981s	Yeah, absolutely not.
1984s	When it comes to Balthorr there is nothing random, everything's precisely calculated.
1990s	I like that confidence.
1992s	I wish some of our debaters had that kind of confidence instead of just being toxic.
1996s	That's called confidence.
1997s	I didn't even say you.
1999s	Why are you responding?
2000s	You were staring into my eyes.
2001s	You don't know that.
2003s	Yeah, I was looking at Bobajenny.
2005s	She's looking great.
2006s	She was looking at Bobajenny, Crouton.
2006s	So don't worry about it.
2009s	All right.
2010s	Sorry about that.
2011s	Little bit of a sidebar, but are you both feeling ready for your first debate?
2015s	I got a weird whiff of something when he walked by, but.
2017s	It's probably the booze.
2018s	It's definitely me.
2019s	I assume it's the ale.
2021s	Alcohol.
2022s	I think Kanon picked him up off the bar floor last night.
2022s	Oh, the rotten alcohol.
2024s	You know, it was a late night.
2026s	It just comes through my skin.
2026s	Hmm.
2027s	Late night.
2029s	He gets it.
2029s	I got to drink with Balthorr.
2032s	He was actually wearing that.
2033s	Uh-huh.
2035s	Anyway, how are you guys feeling ready for your first debate of the finale?
2039s	Sure.
2039s	Yeah, sure.
2040s	Sure.
2041s	Sure.
2041s	Yeah, sure.
2043s	Please stop saying that.
2044s	Bobajenny looks very excited.
2046s	Sure.
2046s	So you know what?
2047s	I'm going to give you the floor first.
2050s	Remember, the topic is: Is too much of Lost Ark based on RNG?
2054s	Bobajenny, your minute to start starts now.
2058s	So I'm arguing for no, it is not too much RNG.
2063s	I know some of you guys in chat right now think that I don't really have a say in this, but let me tell you.
2069s	Why do games make you feel special?
2072s	If you play every single MMO and everyone has the same things?
2075s	It doesn't really feel that special.
2077s	But when you have that one thing where no one else, no one else has, then you feel a little bit better about yourself.
2084s	And when it comes to honing and stuff like that, people say it's RNG, but there's also a pity system going on.
2090s	So I don't think it's that bad.
2092s	At the end of the day, if you have a mount that no one else has, that's why people go back to certain games just to get that mount.
2100s	It makes your gameplay so much more.
2102s	It just makes that item so much more worth it versus everyone else having the same thing over and over again.
2111s	And that's why I think there's not too much like, what is too much anyway?
2114s	What's too much?
2116s	All right, Grenton, your minute is about to start, so we'll see your first argument now.
2121s	Thank you for literally helping my argument a little bit.
2123s	So RNG is great, but there is too much, right?
2126s	So you're never going to get gatekept for item level because you need to be a certain item level to do the raid.
2130s	You will get gatekept for not having, or if someone else applies who has a9 /7 stone and you don't.
2135s	They'll take them.
2135s	There's no pity system for stones.
2137s	Someone applies with a hundred quality weapon.
2138s	You don't have a hundred quality weapon.
2140s	You know all about hundred quality weapons, right?
2142s	No wonder you love RNG, because you got a 9/7 stone.
2146s	You have a hundred quality weapon, so you didn't experience the rough of spending millions of gold trying to get a weapon.
2152s	Ask Stoopzz.
2153s	This guy's perma blue quality.
2155s	He has trouble getting that RNG factor into the game.
2158s	So RNGs great...
2160s	in small amounts.
2162s	A rare amount, Sure.
2163s	That shows prestige.
2164s	You know, maybe, you know, a 9/7 stone OR quality, but too much RNG is bad and there's too much in Lost Ark that's based on RNG.
2172s	The only thing that isn't is honing and your set levels, which at the end of the day don't really matter because you need the level to get to the raid anyways.
2180s	All right, Bobajenny, your one minute to have a rebuttal starts now.
2185s	Okay.
2186s	I get what you mean.
2187s	You're saying that people with 9/7s are automatically getting into raids.
2191s	But I don't think that's the only thing that people look at when they try to get someone in their raid.
2195s	And second of all, did you not tell me yesterday that you ran all of your Yorn card runs to get all of your LOS stuff?
2205s	You got a full set?
2206s	Yeah, you got a full set, but then you worked for it though.
2210s	So I feel like there is some sort of RNG to it.
2214s	But if a game does not have RNG it does not have the same effect.
2216s	It does not light up the parts of your brain that is like, Hell yeah, I want to keep going.
2221s	So I do think RNG is relatively healthy for a game.
2225s	So like I said, what is too much?
2228s	Are the people saying that it's too much the ones that just aren't playing enough to even have the RNG?
2234s	Right?
2234s	If they're not playing enough and they're not really trying it out.
2238s	A lot of people that I know that play a lot of Lost Ark, like they all have LOS 30 without spending on card packs, etc.
2245s	So dopamine rush.
2247s	Good.
2248s	All right, Jenny.
2250s	Grenton, you now have one final minute to make your last argument.
2254s	You play a lot of Lost Ark, right?
2256s	Yeah.
2256s	You don't have a LOS 30.
2258s	I don't.
2258s	You're the only one here without LOS 30.
2260s	But— No, my turn to talk.
2261s	Okay.
2262s	Okay.
2262s	I'm just setting you up.
2263s	Okay.
2264s	You have a high quality weapon.
2265s	You have a 9/7 stone.
2266s	You got hand-me-down level ten gems.
2268s	You just don't have LOS 30.
2269s	See what I mean?
2270s	There's too much RNG.
2271s	You're almost a perfect player, but there's just too much RNG.
2274s	Like I did six card runs for, like, eight months and I never missed a week and I got LOS 30 like December of last year.
2282s	It sucked.
2283s	I had two 9/7 stones.
2284s	I'm RNG blessed and I still think there's too much RNG in the game.
2290s	There has to be a certain balance of.
2292s	if it's going to be cards, it's cards.
2293s	If it's going to be weapon quality, it's weapon quality.
2295s	If it's going to be a stone, it's a stone.
2296s	But having all these different system in the game.
2298s	Not only that, like Datmodz said, that has a lot of player power attached to the RNG that you have no control over and no pity for.
2304s	It's just bad for the health of the game.
2306s	And that's why I think that there is too much RNG in Lost Ark.
2309s	But I like a little bit of RNG.
2311s	You need that dopamine rush.
2313s	Alright, Grenton that is just about your minute.
2316s	Twitch chat is now going to take some time to vote on who they think is the winner.
2321s	You know, guys, I think that was kind of interesting, too.
2324s	Grenton, both called Bobajenny the perfect player and then said, I like "RNG" to close out his argument.
2330s	"Almost the perfect player." You just don't listen.
2333s	No, I heard the important parts.
2336s	"No I heard the important parts." Excuse you?
2338s	I'm noticing this guy's kind of a bully.
2342s	I got bullied all season.
2344s	I got bullied all season.
2345s	This guy's calling her out on light of salvation 30.
2347s	She called me a fivehead and made fun of my hairline.
2349s	I didn't do that.
2350s	That was AGS.
2351s	Did you not see the intro, brother?
2355s	You started it.
2356s	That was definitely Aeromancer.
2357s	Bathorr actually called me a fivehead.
2358s	Huh?
2359s	Yes.
2359s	Five.
2360s	I would say six, actually.
2362s	Oh.
2363s	You know, after all this, I think we can all agree, I mean, all of the topics that we've been talking about, a pineapple, it certainly should never be on pizza.
2372s	What?
2372s	Wait what were we talking about?
2374s	Is he even paying attention?
2374s	Uh, Grenton's fivehead, specifically. 956 00:39:37,985 --> 00:39:37,710 Oh, yes.
2378s	I think he's a little drunk, actually.
2380s	Sixhead!
2381s	Balthorr or me?
2381s	All the time.
2382s	I love pineapple pizza.
2384s	That's my favorite, Balthorr It's so good!
2385s	I agree.
2386s	I agree.
2386s	I have some problems.
2388s	What is going on?
2389s	Listen, I like you because of your beard.
2391s	I'm going to take your mead rations.
2392s	What?
2393s	Yes.
2394s	Fighting words, Boo.
2396s	You know what?
2396s	I'm pretty sure Bathorr's a little drunk right now, but he also has enough hair to go around for your hairline.
2402s	I don't want that sweaty mug on me.
2405s	You can borrow it.
2406s	I'd rather go bald.
2407s	Okay.
2408s	Won't be long.
2408s	All right.
2409s	I think I've created some tension.
2410s	Balthorr, why don't you go ahead and head back to your call center?
2414s	Back to my center?
2415s	I'm sure there's plenty of salty players.
2417s	Yeah.
2417s	Okay.
2418s	All right, let's get a little fist bump.
2420s	Wait.
2420s	Let me check my hair in your head.
2422s	Oh!
2423s	Oh, my God.
2426s	Good hustle Balthorr!
2428s	Yeah, see what I mean?
2429s	I just get bullied all season.
2430s	Oh, my God.
2432s	Oh, I'm both the bully and getting bullied.
2435s	I don't understand how this works.
2437s	You crazy, man.
2438s	How does this even work?
2438s	Wow.
2439s	You know what?
2439s	I guess we'll find out if you are truly being bullied or not.
2444s	Or if Bobajenny is truly the perfect player.
2447s	Almost the perfect player.
2450s	If Bobajenny is the perfect player because the results are in.
2455s	Grenton.
2459s	We're going to do this again?
2459s	We are going to do this again, Grenton.
2461s	Roxx.
2461s	Grenton.
2462s	Kanon.
2463s	Grooten.
2465s	Balthorr.
2471s	Anyway, Grenton.
2471s	Roxx.
2471s	You are not a Mokoko, you got a gold star.
2474s	I thought you guys had my back, what is this?
2477s	I'm sorry Bobajenny.
2478s	I got flowers for your coffin too, don't worry.
2480s	I don't want your flowers.
2480s	You are almost perfect.
2483s	Thanks, Kanon.
2484s	You're welcome.
2485s	Good luck.
2486s	Same here.
2487s	I need more than one star.
2488s	Stoopzz already had that, like, 20 minutes ago.
2490s	Oh.
2491s	That is true.
2492s	Yeah, but your walking W is starless.
2496s	I, uh, I felt bad for, like, bullying you the whole season.
2500s	Like maybe I was a little mean.
2501s	But you guys are unhinged today, what is going on?
2504s	Yeah you did roast the sh— poop out of me.
2506s	Say it out man.
2509s	You say ish?
2509s	In my contract.
2510s	I can't swear, I swore too much during the season.
2512s	Is it?
2513s	Yeah.
2514s	No, it's not.
2515s	But anyway.
2516s	How do you know?
2518s	Tom knows.
2519s	You don't know.
2521s	You doing okay back there, Tom?
2523s	I don't know why you're getting bullied now.
2524s	I got wave from production.
2526s	Leave my production team alone.
2528s	They're working hard back there, man.
2529s	You're right.
2531s	That's the one team I'm not going to pick on.
2532s	They're so nice.
2533s	They deserve the world.
2535s	And I really hope they got that Mokoko out of there.
2537s	Anyway, we're going to move right into our — Aw, there they are, beautiful.
2541s	They're so cute.
2542s	Oh, look at them.
2542s	Thank you, guys.
2544s	All right.
2544s	We're going to move right ahead into our third debate.
2548s	That'll be halfway through our live finale debates.
2552s	Yeah, we're going to do a little switcheroo up here and Datmodz is going to join Grooten— Grenton.
2558s	What is happening?
2561s	Grenton.
2561s	Is it Grooten or Grenton?
2562s	Grooten!
2562s	Can I just get it one time?
2565s	Stoopzz, thank you for not bullying me.
2565s	It's actually Crouton.
2568s	Balthorr, what's his name?
2569s	Crouton.
2570s	Is that like Dwarvish for Grenton?
2572s	No, he just looks like a crouton.
2576s	Oh my god.
2576s	You know what?
2577s	Crouton and Damtmodz.
2578s	I want to go back to Canada.
2580s	This is what happens when you're in the middle of every conversation.
2584s	It goes with the territory man.
2586s	I'm just simultaneously the villain and the person who's getting picked on.
2588s	It's kind of impressive.
2590s	Wild.
2590s	But you know what?
2591s	You have a gold star for your efforts.
2594s	So remember that.
2595s	Yeah.
2597s	Datmodz and Grenton.
2599s	Thank you.
2599s	You're welcome.
2600s	Your topic is not going to make you feel any better.
2604s	Okay.
2604s	Do pheons add value to the Lost Ark?
2609s	Datmodz is looking confident, Grenton's looking kinda sad.
2612s	Listen, we coin flipped.
2615s	They did coin flip.
2616s	Bobajenny flipped it, I witnessed it.
2617s	I lost eight out of nine coin flips.
2620s	It is 100% true.
2623s	How does that happen?
2623s	RNG.
2623s	It's called destiny.
2623s	Too much RNG, see?
2623s	Because you're not winning!
2625s	But you won that one.
2626s	So despite the coin flip, despite, you know, the sides you're arguing for, take a minute to think about it.
2632s	You know I'm doomed no matter what.
2634s	So, Kanon.
2635s	Congratulations on the win.
2636s	This is obviously a topic that, you know, we assume people will feel very strongly in one direction.
2643s	But what do you think?
2644s	Do you think it's going to be an overwhelming vote, do you think Twitch chat might surprise us just because they do that?
2649s	How are you feeling?
2650s	Yeah, I think they're just going to side with...
2652s	I do think that they're going to side with the opinion that is in line with their thoughts.
2656s	But I do want to say one more time that even if you disagree with one person, if they have a very, if they defend that point pretty well, then that's what you're voting on, not necessarily the actual take.
2669s	So with that said, yeah, Datmodz definitely I think is going to take this one.
2673s	I was proud of you for how neutral you were being, but.
2676s	You almost got there.
2677s	Yeah, you did a good job.
2679s	Had me in the first half.
2680s	Yeah, you did.
2681s	Grenton and Datmodz.
2682s	He's getting pulverized.
2685s	Are y'all both feeling?
2687s	We're ready.
2689s	Ready to take this L.
2691s	Ready to take the L?
2692s	You know what, Grenton?
2693s	I respect that.
2694s	So I'll give you the floor first.
2696s	Grenton.
2696s	Your minute to debate starts now.
2698s	And I got shafted.
2699s	I'm gonna get creative with it.
2700s	Okay.
2701s	Question is not are pheons good.
2703s	But if pheons add value to Lost Ark.
2705s	And they do add value to Lost Ark.
2707s	Now is that good value?
2708s	Probably not.
2709s	But.
2710s	But if we didn't have pheons right, there would be less of a reason for whales to circulate their money into the economy and there'd be less of a reason for people to interact with the blue crystal market.
2722s	Not only that, we have the gold from raids coming down right, with gold nerfs, but if we didn't have pheons, the price of accessories and everything would be going up.
2731s	So not only would it be harder for the blue crystal market to work, but it'd be also harder for new players, which you care deeply about, and so does the rest of the panel here, it would be harder for them to actually finish their builds and to get into raids.
2743s	Gatekeeping is a big problem.
2744s	You need 5x3, you need 5x3+1 maybe now.
2747s	And if we had no pheons, accessory prices would go up, stones would go up.
2751s	And there's too much RNG there.
2753s	So people would have a really hard time getting into the raid.
2756s	So pheons provide that sort of level of...
2759s	All right.
2760s	Something.
2760s	That was your first minute.
2762s	This is hard man.
2762s	You did good.
2763s	Datmodz, your minutes starts now.
2765s	Yeah.
2765s	I'm not going to lie.
2766s	I just.
2767s	I'm totally disregarding everything you just said.
2769s	You know, I'm very passionate about this, this topic.
2771s	I think we should just remove pheons.
2773s	It doesn't matter who you are, if you're a little free to play Andy grinding six characters every single week, maybe 18 characters doing all your raids, getting lucky on drops.
2781s	You're a little minnow, you're a dolphin, you're a whale, you're the freakin' sea, you're swiping a bunch, whenever you go to purchase some stones, okay.
2790s	Whenever you go to get some items, there is that flat tax on everything, right?
2794s	It deters people from experimenting.
2796s	Hey, I want to try and offmeta build.
2798s	Oh, look, there's an accessory that costs 200 gold.
2801s	Oh, wait.
2801s	I got to spend 3000 gold on the pheon tax.
2805s	Right.
2805s	And that reduces one of the main things and fun parts of MMOs.
2809s	Not trying different builds, experimenting with different engravings.
2814s	And yeah, we do have Trixion to do that, but sometimes you want to try it out in a real life scenario.
2818s	You want to go try to solo Valtan with a weird build.
2821s	You want to go try to do some Vykas carries with the weird build.
2825s	Alright, that was your one minute.
2827s	Grenton, you have one minute to make a response.
2830s	You're right.
2830s	Trying different builds is really fun.
2833s	There's great ways to do that.
2834s	The new Hyper Express events lets you try both engravings for free.
2838s	No pheons, no accessories, nothing.
2840s	You have Inferno.
2843s	Inferno mode which lets you try any build you want, any engravings at zero cost.
2847s	You just got to bring your consumables.
2849s	So there are ways to do exactly what you said without having to interact with pheons.
2853s	But not only that, you were talking about people playing six characters, 18 characters.
2856s	Listen, the vast majority of the playerbase, they're not playing 18 characters.
2860s	You know, it's just you, because you sit at home all day, you know, your little Cheeto beard playing 18 characters.
2866s	But the vast majority of the players, they just want to make sure the economy is stable to a point where they can afford to even build their meta 5, let alone even try other builds.
2875s	But if prices of accessories and stones are going to go up, I saw Stoopzz try to cut like 80 stones for a 7/7?
2882s	Yeah, he sucks at stone cutting though.
2883s	Imagine, Imagine if that had no pheons and stones were 4x the price, his community would go broke trying to fund his stone cutting addiction.
2891s	It'd be insane.
2892s	Alright Grenton.
2892s	That is your time.
2894s	Datmodz, your final minute starts now.
2897s	I don't get how you can argue for this topic, pheons.
2900s	I have to!
2900s	Yeah I know.
2906s	That's everything that you need to know.
2907s	You HAVE to argue for this topic.
2910s	It adds value.
2912s	It adds value.
2912s	Datmodz, this isn't even an argument.
2912s	Okay.
2913s	Yeah.
2915s	What?
2918s	Well.
2919s	I don't know about this added value, but when...
2922s	I never said it was good value.
2923s	Yeah.
2924s	Whenever you go to buy something, you have to pay a tax on it.
2928s	Some of the items aren't even tradable.
2929s	They're also trade restrictions for items.
2932s	So one of your main points is A, it helps new players get items and stuff, but you know what also helps with that is the trade restrictions.
2940s	You have an accessory, you can only trade at a certain amount of times.
2942s	So why does there have to be that pheon tax?
2944s	And what's one of the biggest pain points for new players?
2947s	They're doing a really good job giving new players the new passes and stuff, getting them up to 1540 item.
2952s	But what do they not have yet?
2953s	They don't have a well-established roster that's generating a lot of gold and they don't have a lot of characters that are able to run Chaos Dungeons.
2959s	And the only one Guardian Raid now per day.
2963s	That is your minute.
2963s	It allows them to get lucky and give them extra money— REMOVE PHEONS!
2965s	VOTE FOR ME DATMODZ!
2968s	I feel like this is just, I don't know.
2971s	He didn't ven argue anything.He just yelled at me.
2972s	It was one minute, but it was only about 30 seconds of a debate.
2977s	Twitch chat is unhinged, so they're gonna begin voting now.
2980s	Vote for me.
2980s	We'll really see how that that turns out.
2983s	Datmodz walking W.
2985s	Jenny looks like she's already a little bit biased over there.
2987s	I'll give everyone 100 pheons if you vote for me.
2989s	Datmodz.
2989s	W.
2989s	What is this?
2989s	Modz!
2992s	Yeah that's a lot better.
2993s	And then W.
2994s	Yeah this is a W.
2995s	I've got a pocket watch in my hand.
2997s	Pocket watch walking W.
2998s	Yeah.
2998s	Grenton, you did have a very difficult topic.
3000s	I think I debated— The question was do they add value to Lost Ark?
3004s	I didn't say good value, bad value.
3007s	Just remember that.
3008s	Do they add value to Lost Ark.
3010s	Grenton, you look like you're trying to beat the system here.
3013s	I have to win on a technicality.
3014s	It's the only way.
3015s	Man.
3016s	I'll give you this.
3016s	You made, you made a pretty good point.
3019s	Stoopzz.
3019s	What are you thinking?
3020s	My legs look so goddamn skinny on this thing man, holy.
3026s	This is messed up man, I look crazy, man.
3027s	Oh.
3028s	Bro.
3029s	Why?
3030s	Why am I always get roasted on the side too.
3032s	This is crazy.You call him a walking W and he's roasting me every 5 seconds.
3034s	Datmodz is like, running for office.
3036s	Datmodz you were actually in the debate, do you have anything you'd like to share?
3038s	Oh, Stoopzz, you have skinny legs.
3040s	But they're nice and they're athletic.
3042s	Thanks, man.
3043s	Yeah.
3043s	They have muscle.
3044s	Good muscle tone.
3045s	OMOMOMOM.
3049s	What?
3049s	Sure.
3049s	The OM emote, he's too old to get that one.
3051s	Hey, don't call me out man!
3053s	He's too old.
3054s	I've never seen you from this POV before man, I usually stare at the top of your head.
3058s	I'm this tall.
3058s	This is.
3058s	Guys, guys.
3059s	They gave me, the first thing that I heard when these guys saw me minus Datmodz because he's like 9 foot 12.
3065s	Everyone's like, Wow, you're really tall.
3067s	I mean, you are taller than Balthorr, so.
3069s	I am.
3070s	I am in many ways.
3073s	Okay, relax, chill.
3076s	Wow.
3077s	Wow.
3078s	I got your back Balthorr.
3079s	Even though you make fun of me.
3081s	And I won't stop making fun of you.
3085s	Thought we're going to have a moment, but.
3086s	Give him another one.
3087s	Don't stop.
3087s	I can tell you one thing about that debate.
3089s	If I was a cheeto, I would want to be stuck in that beard.
3094s	You know what?
3095s	Fair enough.
3096s	And now it's finally time to see which decision Twitch chat made.
3102s	Surprising.
3104s	I'm shocked.
3105s	I'm kind of shocked.
3106s	GRENTON.
3106s	Yeah, Yeah.
3108s	Datmodz, here's your gold star.
3111s	All right, if you don't want it.
3112s	Nah, I'm just kidding.
3113s	Datmodz, you are not the Mokoko.
3116s	I don't need to hype that one up.
3117s	I think we were pretty, pretty certain.
3120s	Give me that participation star.
3121s	Thank you very much, sir.
3123s	Grenton, you did do a great job arguing for something that was very challenging.
3125s	I'm complimenting you.
3127s	Why are you sassing me?
3128s	Because there's sarcasm in the compliment.
3130s	My mom's watching this and she's going to be disappointed in you.
3133s	This guy is part of every conversation.
3135s	She is talking to me!
3136s	Every time we talk.
3137s	Like, it's just Grenton.
3138s	What do you mean?
3139s	We should have had Stoopzz like over here.
3142s	Like, you would've been...
3143s	You just want a barrier.
3144s	You want to use him as a physical barrier?
3145s	He's just too active in this.
3147s	Production team.
3148s	Let's, uh...
3149s	Oh, my goodness.
3150s	I mean that is probably true, Michael...
3151s	It's all good, Grenton, you are doing quite all right.
3153s	We're going to take another quick break and hand over to Balthorr's support Center again while we get ready for our second round of three more debates.
3163s	Mhm.
3163s	Hm.
3164s	No.
3164s	Yeah, baby, it's okay.
3166s	No, you could call me here anytime.
3167s	Oh, yeah.
3168s	No.
3168s	And then I said, No, no, no, no, no.
3170s	That's not my wife.
3171s	That's my hammer.
3174s	Oh!
3174s	Uh.
3177s	Welcome back to Balthorr's Live Support Center for the Salty Twitch Players.
3184s	We have so many wonderful people.
3186s	Ah I see L373 saying, I love you Balthorr.
3189s	I know.
3190s	I look better in HD or widescreen.
3195s	You know, you got those little bars on the top of your screen and you could see more.
3199s	There's so much real estate.
3201s	You could see me drunk passed out on the ground and it's like, whoa oh, oh, oh, yes, I see.
3207s	Oh, Ratpatrols "Fix the game Stare".
3210s	Oh, you know what I could stare at is your tears all the way from over here.
3215s	I could see you cry, and cry me a river.
3217s	You know, it's like a giant river that we can all just float in.
3221s	We could drink mai tais and float down the way.
3223s	And we could have a great time, you and I, you know, while you cry and give us more of that stuff.
3228s	Yes, that's right.
3230s	Oh, yes.
3231s	You know what?
3231s	Wreckedess.
3233s	I see you there.
3234s	Yes.
3234s	Do my knees hurt?
3236s	More like does my back hurt from carrying all you noobs?
3240s	Ha!
3241s	Oh, you know, if I could be serious for a moment, there's something that I want to talk to you all about that I think would really help all you salty crybabies.
3251s	I think if you buy this new ale of mine, you know, it's.
3256s	It's definitely delicious ale.
3258s	You could sell it to all your friends.
3259s	And it's most certainly not a multilevel marketing scheme.
3264s	I promise you, it's the best thing ever.
3266s	You just sell it to your friends, especially if they're salty.
3270s	If they're salty, little pancakes just floating over there.
3272s	And you're like, here's some ale, you noob.
3275s	Why don't you take this— What was that?
3277s	Why don't you take this ale, and it'll be delicious and you will stop being such a noob at raids.
3284s	Oh, and can I talk to you salty players about another thing?
3288s	Is it peons or is it pheons?
3292s	I don't get it.
3293s	I don't get it.
3293s	You know, it really it grinds my gears.
3297s	So AmyYasu says just swipe more.
3301s	Yes, I'm always fan of the whales.
3304s	You know, we like to swim in that big open sea and it is the most wonderful time.
3310s	I'm just floating like the freedom flag of justice just going on there.
3314s	I could float on my hammer all day.
3316s	Oh, yes.
3316s	Let's see here.
3318s	We got Barban97.
3321s	Shift G.
3321s	More like alt F4 you, noob.
3323s	Get out of my game.
3325s	RecallYT again.
3327s	Balthorr, What do you think?
3329s	Listen, why don't you just go back to modding Stoopzz chat?
3332s	You know he needs some support right now.
3334s	He really does.
3335s	He can't stand.
3336s	Literally.
3338s	Let's see it.
3339s	Oh, and we got a special.
3343s	Oh, oh, oh!
3345s	Ugh.
3346s	I'm fragile.
3349s	Oh, oh.
3350s	Yes, back to my noobs.
3352s	I hope you been thinking about me multilevel marketing scheme.
3356s	It's one of the best in town.
3357s	I tell you right now.
3358s	It's— wait!
3359s	Not multilevel marketing scheme.
3361s	My bad.
3362s	Oh, Lovebug says LMA—Ooh!
3365s	Yeah.
3366s	La la la.
3367s	I see what you're doin' in there.
3368s	It feels really good.
3370s	Ooh, I see so many people.
3371s	DLoe that say hi to Datmodz.
3375s	That's his Baby mama.
3376s	Oh, hello, Datmodz.
3378s	Good to see ya.
3380s	He's got the Cheetos for reals.
3382s	Hey, why don't you come over here Datmodz?
3384s	Oh.
3385s	Hello, family.
3386s	You're looking good.
3387s	Balthorr.
3388s	I really like your beard.
3389s	Now, this is a majestic thing.
3391s	That's.
3391s	Yes.
3391s	Yes.
3392s	What do you, what products to use in that?
3394s	You got anything to sell me?
3395s	It's pure oil from the bottom of the barrel of the ale.
3399s	Mm hmm.
3400s	That sounds good.
3401s	Yes.
3401s	And.
3402s	And the tears of my enemy.
3404s	Yeah.
3405s	All these nobs.
3406s	Look at all of them.
3406s	They're just floating away.
3407s	Say hi to Datmodz Beard.
3409s	Hello, Datmodz Beard.
3410s	I see.
3411s	Oh, it's nothing compared to yours at all Balthorr.
3414s	Ah, yes thank you.
3415s	I try my best.
3417s	You're talking about whales.
3418s	I see a bunch of them in chat right now.
3420s	Yes.
3421s	Yes, they are.
3422s	They are just swooning all the way from their little whale stoop.
3427s	I can hear you guys.
3428s	You sound like.
3429s	You sound like you need your back scratched because you're just here.
3432s	You can't reach them with your little hands.
3435s	Hey.
3437s	Now, what was that?
3439s	More multilevel marketing scheme?
3441s	No.
3442s	Okay.
3443s	Back to you in the studio, Roxx.
3447s	Thanks, Balthorr.
3448s	You know, you're not supposed to, like, advertise your sales on like, company time.
3455s	Like, have you ever...
3457s	Who hired you?
3458s	You did.
3459s	I believe you did.
3461s	Uh, I definitely didn't.
3463s	But I do know you said you had customer support experience, and I'm no longer sure if that's true.
3470s	No, I absolutely lied.
3472s	Uh, okay.
3474s	Good to know.
3475s	You know what, I don't trust you over there.
3476s	Why don't you.
3476s	Why don't you come over here?
3478s	Go over there?
3480s	Yeah.
3481s	Before we get our next debate started.
3481s	Here, let me get my mallet.
3483s	What is that face Stoopzz?
3484s	Huh?
3485s	Why?
3485s	What is that face?
3488s	Do you need this mallet to fix it?
3489s	What is he doing?
3490s	We're good.
3491s	I already regret this.
3493s	Good hustle, Balthorr.
3494s	Thank you, Daddy.
3496s	Son, is that you?
3497s	Papa!?
3501s	Oh, wow.
3502s	Your son grew up quick.
3502s	What a man you've become.
3504s	What a mighty hammer.
3505s	Thank you.
3506s	Well, you may have been on to something at the beginning of his show.
3509s	Apparently, we're finding out a little bit too much about Datmodz and Balthorr.
3514s	But you know what?
3515s	We're going to move on from whatever that is and get ready for our next debate with Stoopzz and Bonaenny.
3522s	So this is going to be our fourth debate.
3524s	It's still anyone's game so far.
3526s	Lots of stars spread out.
3527s	We'll see if Bobajenny earns her first start here.
3531s	So, you two, your topic is going to be: Should Lost Ark offer more solo progression opportunities for players?
3539s	We'll give you kind of a minute to think through what you want your arguments to be and we'll go from there.
3545s	Yeah, Balthorr, also what you said when you— I don't want to know.
3549s	It sounded like you were taking a personal call.
3552s	Oh, you heard that?
3553s	Yeah, we all did.
3554s	Yes.
3555s	Well, I was talking to my agent.
3558s	Yes, my agent.
3560s	About, you know.
3561s	About your hammer?
3562s	Yeah, that's it.
3563s	Tell me more about this...
3565s	Don't...
3565s	don't tell us more.
3565s	About my mallet?
3567s	No, no not that hammer.
3568s	Oh, my hammer.
3569s	Oh, yes.
3570s	It's the best in the world.
3571s	Oh I bet.
3572s	Everybody loves it.
3573s	They talk about it for miles.
3574s	In fact, speaking of this topic, I mean, I pretty much solo the entire game.
3580s	You could basically just hang out with me the whole time.
3583s	Yeah, fair enough.
3585s	Except some people here don't have my card.
3589s	No more multilevel marketing, that's enough from you, no more sales.
3595s	But it sounds like Balthorr might be a fan of solo progression opportunities.
3599s	So we'll see what our two debaters are going to argue for.
3602s	Are you both feeling ready?
3604s	Datmodz, is...
3605s	I don't know why I said Datmodz.
3607s	This is crazy, man.
3609s	Datmodz is over there and not debating.
3611s	It's the beard.
3612s	Stoopzz and Bobajenny.
3613s	It's because I'm in this wheelchair.
3614s	You don't remember my name.
3614s	Yesterday you called me Grenton and now you call me Datmodz.
3617s	This is messed up man.
3621s	I never called you Grenton, I called Grenton Grooten.
3622s	She did one time.
3623s	He kind of look like you a little bit.
3625s	You almost are twins.
3626s	Who the hell looks like Grenton?
3627s	I'm still getting bullied.
3629s	What do you mean, Groupon?
3630s	Groupon?
3631s	Oh, is that what you're talking about?
3633s	Are you talking about Grooten?
3635s	Grooten?
3636s	I like it.
3637s	What is this guy saying, man.
3639s	Stoopzz, again, thank you for not bulling me.
3641s	Sounds like our debaters are ready for that debate.
3644s	Stoopzz, who I very much know, and Bobajenny, are you both ready?
3648s	Yeah, I'm ready.
3649s	All right.
3650s	Stoopzz, I feel bad, so I will give you the floor first.
3652s	Your minute starts now.
3654s	I think this is a kind of an easy topic.
3656s	And it's like, of course, Lost Ark needs more solo progression.
3659s	Okay?
3659s	Because right now the game is a very raid-based heavy game.
3663s	And so you get your character all juiced up.
3664s	A lot of you guys come to the game, check out Hyper Express, you're waiting to play Aeromancer.
3669s	You want to pump, do big damage— well that class doesn't do a lot of damage.
3672s	You want to do big damage, right?
3674s	You want to play in the raid or support your friends.
3676s	So you hone, you enhance, you go through the little triangle dance of the screen as you enhance it all the way up.
3680s	You get there and then you don't get invited into the group.
3683s	And that is one of the hardest things about MMORPGs is that you do all the work to do a raid and then you sit in the party finder it for hours and it's super frustrating if you don't have friends.
3692s	And so we have to go out of the way to help people get into groups.
3695s	But if you offer more solo content and ways to progress your character via solo content, then you can at least play on your own time, whether it be 1 in the morning, 12 in the afternoon, whenever you want to play, you can play.
3706s	Not saying group content isn't important in an MMORPG, but giving people ways to progress on their own I think is super important.
3712s	Do I have more time to go?
3713s	All right.
3714s	That was like, exactly your minute.
3715s	So that wass pretty good for you to ask.
3717s	Bobajenny, your minute starts now.
3720s	I get it.
3721s	You know, sometimes you would be like, Hey, it'd be a lot faster if I just do the whole Valtan by myself.
3727s	And I totally understand that.
3729s	At the same time, like, don't you want to have a community where you can count on or are you just like, Hey, I wanted to Valtan.
3735s	Is anyone up to do Valtan with me?
3738s	And then they hop right in.
3739s	Because at the end of the day, there is vertical content that is very, very co-op.
3745s	But people usually forget about the horizontal.
3747s	Nothing about horizontal is co-op.
3751s	It's all solo.
3752s	So we have solo horizontal and then solo vertical.
3757s	I feel like that's going to throw off the balance a little bit.
3760s	You know, people are going to just play solo and I feel like what makes Lost Ark a bit different from other MMO is that there's so many opportunities for you to play co-op, and I think that is what makes it fun.
3773s	All right.
3774s	You have a little bit more time.
3776s	Do you want to?
3777s	This is very difficult, guys.
3782s	All right, Stoopzz.
3784s	Your minute, your final minute for your final argument starts now.
3787s	I agree with you Bobajenny, playing with your friends is important.
3789s	Like when Mr.
3790s	Modz ditched me last week I was hurt.
3791s	I like playing with my friends, man, it's very, very important.
3794s	But I think that giving people an option is always better than sitting in the party finder.
3798s	And I think Lost Ark has really great combat and no one can deny that.
3802s	And so I think that with fights like Prokel, which are super fun, if you gave solo boss encounters, so we have legion raids, then we can work on solo bosses and maybe you get three for your gold earners, and you can either do one or the other.
3813s	Maybe raids give you more gold.
3815s	You can get gear sets from solo bosses, you can earn some gold on the side.
3818s	So if you don't have time to get into a raid group or you can't, you still have the avenue of doing some solo boss encounters and you can work on your skills and get better.
3825s	For a new player getting to the game, how are you going to develop your skills?
3828s	And you can't really get into the groups, right?
3830s	So offer a solo fight.
3831s	Solo Boss like a solo Vykas man.
3833s	A solo clown.
3834s	That'd be really cool, man.
3835s	Some of the same patterns help you learn a little bit, right?
3838s	Get your skills on, make some gold, progression.
3840s	Solo encounters is the future.
3843s	All right, that was your minute.
3846s	Damn.
3846s	Bobajenny, you can do it.
3847s	Pay me.
3847s	You have one more minute.
3849s	Objection!
3850s	No, no, objection.
3852s	We're still in the middle of a debate.
3853s	You can't object a debate.
3855s	Object!
3855s	I want to point out Mr.
3856s	Stoopzz did not even invite me to the raid.
3858s	I only got invited by Zeals.
3860s	And you forgot about me, I did no.
3863s	leave you.
3864s	You forgot about me.
3864s	I just want no lies and slander.
3867s	I don't even know what game he's been playing.
3869s	My invite got lost in the mail.
3871s	This guy said Xavier won the argument.
3873s	That's messed up, man.
3879s	All right, Bobajenny still has one minute for her last debate, so we're going to give her that.
3884s	Bobajenny, you feeling ready?
3885s	I know we kind of got us off base there.
3887s	All right.
3888s	Your final minute starts now.
3890s	Mr.
3890s	Man.
3891s	I understand.
3891s	We're still going?
3893s	It's my turn!
3895s	Mr.
3895s	Man.
3895s	Look, I understand he ditched you.
3898s	You know what?
3899s	I wasn't invited either.
3901s	But this could be the moment where we can all make up and just play together.
3906s	And at the end of the day, it's just so much more fun when you play with everyone.
3912s	So do you really, truly want solo prog all the time, though?
3916s	Like, although I'll say this, to have co-op and have the option for solo, but I feel like that kind of gameplay would be completely different because everyone has solo in mind thinking I'm juiced, I'm just going to go in and I'm just going to one shot the boss.
3931s	But at the end of the day, there is mechs.
3932s	There's mechs to do.
3934s	And we talked about wipe mechanics and stuff like that.
3936s	So I think that that could be a different play mode.
3939s	But the game overall is mainly based on co-op.
3943s	And I would definitely invite you.
3945s	I'll play with you.
3945s	Screw this guy, I don't want to play with this bish.
3948s	Alright, that was Bobajenny's final minute.
3950s	Twitch chat now has the opportunity to vote on who they think the winner is.
3955s	You guys, this got weirdly like emotional and about friendship.
3958s	I'm glad you guys are here with me at my mushroom.
3960s	Yeah.
3960s	I got to tell you, something Stoopzz said really resonated with me about having friends, and I realized I don't have any.
3970s	But everyone calls you to protect them, though.
3972s	Yeah, that's true.
3973s	But Iike.
3973s	They just use you.
3974s	You know, it's just using me.
3976s	That's why I drink myself.
3977s	You know, I got to drink my body weight to make up for the pain and the sadness.
3982s	Are you okay?
3983s	I'll be fine.
3984s	Just looking for a friend.
3985s	I'm your friend.
3987s	Oh, wow.
3991s	You're moving rather fast there Kanon.
3995s	I mean shoot, man.
3996s	I said shoot.
3998s	I definitely said.
4000s	I said shoot.
4002s	You got to watch out, man.
4003s	I'll give you my contact.
4004s	We'll.
4005s	You know.
4006s	Oh I got it.
4006s	I got yesterday.
4007s	I got it.
4008s	Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
4010s	Yeah.
4010s	Heheheh.
4011s	All right.
4012s	Well, it looks like we have the beginnings of another beautiful friendship over here.
4015s	This is weirdly heartwarming.
4017s	Despite you all yelling all over each other during that debate a minute ago.
4020s	So, you know what?
4021s	I will take it.
4022s	I will take it.
4023s	This is like an opposite.
4024s	It's like there's nothing but love here.
4026s	But then over there, it's like my boy.
4029s	My boy Stoopzz is really jaded about something.
4032s	Datmodz, what did you.
4033s	What did you do?
4034s	I feel bad.
4034s	I think.
4035s	I think I pushed him to be a solo cell phone player.
4037s	Now, we used to have so much fun in raids together, and he told me that group content was the favorite content.
4042s	Oh no.
4043s	We missed one raid together.
4044s	And I think all your fault, it really had an everlasting effect on him.
4048s	That's like Story of the Joker.
4049s	Yeah, I think we're gonna have to do some raids together and make up for it.
4051s	He created the villain.
4054s	The Stoopzz villain arc.
4057s	How come he has the orange thing?
4058s	What is the...
4059s	why does he get the orange?
4061s	'Cause he's my Emcee.
4061s	I'm like, yeah, I'm at a higher level.
4063s	He's above us.
4063s	Is that like a retired Mokoko or?
4067s	Is that like an aged Mokoko?
4068s	He's just definitely the more attractive Mokoko.
4071s	Listen here Xavier.
4076s	Are you crazy, man?
4078s	That's a pretty savage comment.
4079s	There's a picture of me in Discord as, Professor X with, like, my head shaved.
4084s	All right, well, I guess we'll find out who won that debate.
4088s	It looks like the votes are in.
4092s	Oh, man.
4093s	I just needed to take a deep breath.
4095s	Yeah.
4095s	No, no.
4096s	Yeah.
4097s	It was dramatic.
4097s	It was really good.
4098s	Thank you.
4099s	I try to be dramatic.
4101s	Can I ask one question?
4103s	Because we got the results in, and I don't think my boy Stoopzz.
4106s	You know, because yesterday he was.
4108s	He was complaining about how he was always losing in the rehearsal.
4111s	He's been doing that for like three months.
4112s	Hey Stoopzz.
4112s	How do you feel about this?
4114s	Do you feel like you won this one or what do you think?
4117s	Yeah, I think so.
4118s	I think she had a hard topic.
4119s	Okay.
4120s	Fair.
4120s	Well, Bobajenny, how are you feeling though?
4122s	I got the hard topics.
4124s	Yeah.
4125s	All right, Well, then I guess it's time for me announce that— Time for me announce?
4129s	Time for me to announce that Bobajenny.
4134s	Unfortunately Stoopzz is not the Mokoko.
4137s	Nooo.
4138s	Sheeeeeesh.
4138s	He'll get his second gold star.
4139s	I mean look at that.
4140s	But the stars aren't everything.
4142s	Don't worry too much yet.
4144s	Wow.
4145s	They seem like everything.
4146s	Look at that.
4147s	They are pretty important.
4148s	Look at that.
4149s	Look at that.
4150s	Balthorr now that you've made a friend, thanks for joining us as well.
4152s	I'm going to send you back to man the support center.
4155s	Oh no!
4156s	I see chat was getting pretty spicy.
4156s	I don't know who Xavier is, but like.
4160s	It's alright, I'll head back.
4160s	Call me later.
4162s	I'll get you on my multilevel marketing scheme.
4165s	Sounds great, just make sure you bring that other hammer.
4166s	Oh, the other one.
4167s	That's right.
4168s	Okay.
4168s	What are you guys talking about?
4169s	Like I said, what?
4172s	You're really struggling there about Balthorr, huh?
4174s	You know it, Papa.
4177s	What is going on with this guy?
4179s	I don't know.
4181s	Are you making fun of how slow he walks?
4183s	He's got short legs.
4185s	This guy's crazy.
4186s	I just showed up yesterday.
4187s	I saw him for the first time.
4188s	He's crazy.
4189s	He's drunk.
4190s	Leave him alone.
4191s	I think he's getting progressively more drunk throughout the show.
4193s	He's getting unhinged.
4193s	Have you met Balthorr?
4194s	That's kind of what he does.
4196s	Asughs...
4199s	Look in his eyes right now.
4202s	Balthorr are you okay over there?
4203s	I got a new Papa and his name is Datmodz.
4209s	Let's leave him in his support center for a while.
4212s	Stoopzz may be on to something.
4214s	We're going to go ahead and move into our next 1v1 debate.
4218s	Bobajenny and Datmodz, why don't we do a little, do a little shuffle?
4224s	Thank you.
4224s	Thank you.
4225s	A shuffle.
4226s	Oh.
4226s	Oh!
4227s	You're stepping on my leaves.
4228s	Oh.
4229s	Oh, flower.
4229s	Get everyone into place.
4232s	Bobajenny and Datmodz.
4233s	Bobajenny, you still have another chance to earn a gold star.
4236s	I'm the only one without a star.
4237s	This is your chance.
4238s	You can earn it here.
4240s	Your topic for this debate is: Should there be options for how players can earn gold in their raid?
4246s	Is it something that they should have control over?
4249s	Okay.
4250s	So I'll give you both a minute to kind of think about that before we get started.
4255s	Can someone check on Balthorr, please?
4257s	Yeah, I miss him already.
4260s	I'm fine.
4261s	I'm fine.
4265s	Oh, okay.
4267s	You know, let's not check on Blathorr.
4268s	Or someone turn off Balthorr's camera and figure out who hired him.
4273s	Bobajenny, Datmodz.
4275s	Are you feeling, feeling ready?
4276s	I think we are ready.
4278s	Ready?
4278s	Oooh!
4279s	Ready.
4279s	Ready.
4280s	Ready.
4280s	Oh.
4282s	They're squaring up.
4283s	They're very ready over there.
4285s	Okay.
4286s	You know what, Bobajenny got that first hit in, so I will give you the floor first.
4290s	Your one minute to make your first argument.
4293s	And the debate starts now.
4295s	So should there be customization options for how players can earn gold?
4299s	Wait, wait, wait.
4301s	You know what they say.
4302s	What?
4302s	Ladies first.
4303s	That means I'm going first.
4304s	Hahaha alright, fine.
4306s	Okay.
4307s	I firmly believe that players should have more customization options for the content they consume weekly.
4313s	There's certain raid that you really enjoy.
4314s	You might really like Vykas, her feet— What?
4317s	The scene where you're doing the typing test.
4319s	Okay.
4320s	Maybe you like doing the Brelshaza square places.
4322s	Maybe you just really like Akkan.
4323s	Maybe Kayangel, your favorite fight.
4325s	You want to get the wings.
4326s	I think players should be able to select what raids they do every week.
4330s	Maybe you don't, you shouldn't be forced to do something you don't want to do just for a reward.
4334s	Once you get your sets leveled up, once you get your items required, once you get your horns, once you get your pet, you should just be able to do three Kayangels per week on your character.
4342s	Okay.
4343s	You don't even like playing your old set anymore.
4345s	They're retired.
4347s	There are the new things.
4347s	The new hotness.
4349s	Souleater came out.
4350s	You want to know what?
4351s	You should be able to transfer all your raids to the new character and just play that character all week long.
4354s	Do as many chaos dungeons on it.
4356s	Do all the guardian raids you want to do it.
4359s	Do Vykas as much as you want to do it.
4362s	It also will help getting, uh, assisting in getting your sets quicker and your bonuses quicker so you're not forced to run things that you don't want to run.
4369s	All right.
4369s	That was your minute, I guess, since you decided.
4374s	Bobajenny, your one minute starts now, officiallu.
4377s	It felt like you were selling me a slap chop or something.
4379s	But, I was gonna say the question is, should there be customization options?
4387s	I think no...
4390s	because...
4393s	you know what?
4393s	You're right.
4394s	But!
4395s	Hold up.
4396s	Because listen, listen.
4398s	People want to progress their character.
4400s	Every single time a new raid comes out, that's when you get the new materials to craft your new gear.
4405s	If everyone is just doing the new stuff over and over again, who's going to help out the Mokokos with the other stuff?
4411s	And I feel like in general, Lost Ark is an alt kind of playing game.
4417s	So again, this kind of ties in with the solo progression where you probably just want to stick with one character and solo progress.
4422s	But I think overall, like there's also like group synergies and stuff like that.
4426s	This is very, very difficult, guys.
4429s	But I do think that it would throw off the balance a little bit and no one's going to be doing Brelshaza anymore because it takes ten years.
4436s	So I feel like a little bit of customization is fine, but full customization where you can do multiple raids, I don't think that would be healthy.
4445s	All right, Datmodz, you have one minute to make a final response.
4449s	Now, you did make a really good point.
4450s	There is certain raids that people don't necessarily like the most and that might cause and force players not to run it anymore.
4456s	So new players might not be able to find groups.
4458s	However, there is one big problem with Lost Ark, that's burnout.
4461s	What leads to burnout?
4462s	It's doing things that you don't actually want to do, it's things that you feel forced to do.
4467s	And I think that's problematic.
4468s	That's why you should be able to select the raids that you want to do.
4471s	And also for new players, because that's obviously a concern, you always want to have the new players having a good experience.
4476s	That's why you need to add more systems in the game to allow other players to mentor them.
4480s	You have a better group finder, have a better matchmaking game.
4483s	So there is players that want to learn a trade and there should be some type of incentive for older players, veteran players, bored players to go in there and help them out.
4492s	Maybe instead of running a bus or something, because that's what a lot of people do for extra gold, you have a system in place in the matchmaker where you want to be a mentor and you basically get the equivalent of the bus gold for helping the new players, and then they also get their sets.
4504s	But then if you don't want to do that, you could just run your favorite raid three times per week and make that gold.
4509s	Cash Money!
4509s	Alright, Bobajenny, you have your final minute to argue against President Datmodz.
4516s	I'm literally against the walking W.
4518s	You guys don't understand how hard this is.
4521s	Okay.
4521s	But I do feel like some customization is good.
4525s	But if it's, if it really, really comes down to a gold, you know, the gold thing, is it really about the customization or should they just keep the gold, you know, higher so people wouldn't have to think about gold, wouldn't have to think about, you know, doing Valtan every week.
4540s	Mmhmm.
4541s	Because at the end of the day, like these earlier raids are there to prep you for the future raids.
4548s	And if you keep going back, that would get boring as well, don't you think?
4553s	Like I said, guys, this is very difficult.
4556s	I wouldn't get bored.
4557s	But that is a good point, though.
4559s	Certain raids do introduce mechanics that help you learn new raid mechanics because they reintroduce them at certain points.
4564s	So not reinforcing those raid mechanics might make it harder for other people learn their stuff...
4568s	and I'm fighting against myself.
4571s	Why'd I do that?
4572s	Don't listen to what I'm saying!
4572s	That was Bobajenny's minute.
4574s	Don't listen!
4575s	Honestly Bobajenny made her argument, but I kind of liked the support you were giving her, so I let it happen.
4581s	Let's go!
4581s	You know what, we had Bobajenny versus Datmodz.
4584s	Actually, it was Bobajenny and Datmodz versus Datmodz.
4587s	So we'll see how the community decides to vote on that.
4592s	Yeah, that was very interesting, while they're voting, that you decided to take her side at the end there.
4597s	That is an interesting debate strategy for sure.
4600s	I didn't take her side.
4601s	I just recognized she made some fair, good points.
4604s	And MMOs are about community, so you should respect your community members point of views and perspectives, and you shouldn't just automatically dismiss them.
4611s	Back to you Roxx and Kanon.
4613s	Kanon look at this guy, do you see this?
4613s	He's like walking himself back now.
4615s	He's trying to make himself look good.
4616s	Yeah, it's, I think it's part of his campaign technique.
4619s	I think he's guilty.
4620s	I mean, I don't know what he actually said, but I'm kind of mesmerized at how he said it.
4624s	I mean, this guy looks like he's...
4626s	Are you okay?
4627s	I mean, he's the only one out here that looks like he's, that sounds and looks like he's running for president of the United States.
4634s	I mean.
4635s	Arkesia.
4636s	Arkesia.
4637s	Arkesia.
4638s	That's right.
4638s	That's what I said.
4639s	Yeah.
4639s	Yeah.
4640s	I heard that.
4640s	I don't know man, what is that?
4642s	What?
4644s	Stooppz, what are you looking at?
4644s	What's going on?
4645s	Why in the hell are you panning to me when I'm staring off into the void?
4647s	Man I was out there zoning and I look up and the camera's on me.
4650s	I'm not even...
4650s	You are, Stoopzz, are you aware that you are on a livestream?
4655s	You are on a livestream.
4656s	But he controls the camera.
4657s	You're always on camera.
4659s	I know, but it just randomly panned to me.
4660s	You're the main character.
4662s	Like Grenton, you're always on camera.
4662s	You're saying it's, I'm always interjecting myself in the conversation?
4664s	Like Balthorr, he's always camera ready.
4667s	What's going on?
4668s	It doesn't matter.
4669s	Ughh...
4669s	It's so bright in here.
4671s	Do we need to call a medic?
4671s	I can't see anything.
4672s	What do you mean?
4673s	It's too much, you guys yelling, it's hurting my ears.
4676s	Why are your goggles so wet?
4677s	And because I sweat.
4679s	Aughhh.
4681s	Balthorr is sweating from his eyes and he is still more camera ready than you, Stoopzz.
4686s	It's just so much.
4688s	They're foggy, you see that?
4689s	Yeah, dew.
4690s	It's very moist.
4691s	Hey, I don't need to see anything to still carry your salty butt through a raid.
4697s	Oh, my God.
4699s	Does he even play the game or no?
4701s	He's in the game.
4702s	Balthorr is in the game.
4703s	He's in the game.
4705s	I am the game, baby.
4707s	O-okay.
4708s	Hehehe.
4709s	You know what?
4709s	Your guys' toxicity seems to be rubbing off on our Sidereal here.
4714s	I don't know how that's going to play out next time y'all have to face the Legion Commanders.
4723s	We're getting some comms in right now, guys.
4725s	Hahaha, sorry, I'm laughing.
4727s	We can hear it so.
4728s	So what you all can't see.
4729s	Michael, why don't you let them see you really quick?
4733s	Show our production team.
4734s	They're talking into my ear, and they just told me a super secret.
4737s	That was my real shocked face, so.
4743s	All right.
4744s	All right.
4745s	I don't know if you can lip read from that angle, but by one vote, confirmed by the people counting back there, the votes Twitch chat.
4755s	A single vote.
4758s	Datmodz.
4760s	Bobajenny is the winner.
4763s	Woooo!
4764s	Let's go!
4764s	Down with Modz.
4768s	Your first gold star.
4768s	I don't know who that one vote was, but they got you a gold star.
4771s	It was, it was the Play Lost Ark channel.
4774s	It was the Play Lost Ark channel, hahaha.
4774s	I don't think we can vote in our own polls.
4776s	Wow.
4776s	Let's goooo!
4777s	That is, that is amazing.
4778s	It is a tight race.
4780s	This show's rigged, I told you.
4781s	Oh, my God.
4782s	Grenton, are you kidding me?
4782s	Are you still saying the show is rigged?
4785s	How do we all conveniently have one star?
4787s	You don't!
4788s	Stoopzz has two!
4788s	Chat decided.
4790s	Oh, does he?
4790s	Yeah he has two.
4791s	Yeah.
4791s	It's a pity, star.
4792s	It's— what you mean it's a pity star?
4795s	It's because you've been bullying him.
4795s	You called him Xavier.
4797s	Uh, me?
4798s	Yeah.
4799s	That's true though, that's crazy man.
4801s	I can't believe you called me that.
4802s	All right.
4803s	Well, we'll, keep his name to Stoopzz for now.
4806s	But it looks like we have one more debate.
4810s	Look at all the stars on everyone.
4812s	I'm— I'm really happy.
4813s	Everyone has at least one gold star.
4815s	Yeah, less complaints.
4816s	You know what, good job.
4817s	Everyone gets the participation trophy.
4819s	Joke's on you.
4820s	These maybe don't matter, but we'll get to that later.
4824s	But you know what?
4824s	I'm proud of all of you.
4825s	You all did good enough to get a gold star from the wrangled Twitch chat.
4831s	Like I said, though, it is still anyone's game.
4833s	Anyon'se season.
4834s	Anyone can be a Mokoko.
4836s	We have one more debate to do between Grenton and Stoopzz.
4841s	So y'all are both set up.
4843s	Grenton.
4843s	you got to give it your all, or he's going to have three stars.
4846s	He's going to have won all his debates.
4848s	That's the one person I'm not going to be toxic to.
4850s	Wow.
4850s	Wow.
4850s	Why did you decide that?
4852s	Because all show he was talking over me for 12 episodes, but all show, he's been nothing but nice to me.
4858s	Your hands are freezing.
4859s	That's not what you said yesterday, man.
4860s	Well, yesterday we were all tired and then he was just mean.
4862s	But like, today, he's nice.
4863s	Don't let him fool you Twitch chat.
4864s	I wasn't mean yesterday, man.
4866s	I don't know, you were kind of mean yesterday.
4867s	I was not.
4867s	Okay, you're right.
4868s	What?
4868s	I'm not gonna— he's right all the time.
4871s	I will.
4871s	I want to correct something, though.
4872s	So the last episode we had to debate which gate was the coolest.
4877s	Yeah.
4878s	And I had to do, I didn't do Akkan yet, right?
4880s	So I had Brel gate six, Akkan gate three is definitely the coolest gate in Lost Ark.
4884s	Yeah.
4885s	So I'm gonna give you that W.
4886s	Yeah, I just said Akkan gate three is the best gate.
4888s	Yeah, I would do.
4889s	Akkan for like...
4890s	Can you fix that on the show?
4890s	Like, can we go back?
4891s	No, we can't retcon the show.
4892s	No you can on YouTube, Michael you can add text, like.
4895s	Sure.
4896s	Okay.
4896s	Thank you.
4897s	You're pissing off Michael.
4898s	No you can.
4898s	I know but he said sure but he's not going to do it.
4900s	You can't retcon canon.
4902s	Have you ever seen Star Wa—?
4904s	Anyway.
4905s	Roxx got fired.
4906s	Anyway.
4907s	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
4907s	Chat don't let— this is part of his strategy.
4908s	Anyway.
4909s	We still have one more debate to get through.
4911s	I haven't even told y'all your topic and you're all, already all ready.
4916s	True true true.
4916s	Your debate topic is actually an important one.
4919s	So I'm glad you hugged it out.
4920s	OM OM OM.
4920s	OM OM OM.
4921s	How do we create a better and healthier community for newer...
4925s	newer players or players that are still progressing?
4929s	So, you know, hug it out.
4930s	Think about how you can help those noobs keep those warm fuzzies inside and you'll all have a minute to strategize.
4938s	I think it's an interesting strategy that Grenton's taken here.
4941s	This is all part of his his strategy.
4943s	You think maybe he's just playing the long con?
4943s	Oh 100%.
4944s	I mean, all of a sudden he's a nice guy.
4946s	Are you kidding me?
4948s	Grooten?
4948s	I mean, come on.
4948s	No, no, I'm not buying it.
4950s	I don't buy it chat.
4951s	So you think he's trying to be the wholesome in order to sway votes about the, you know, the new players and the community?
4956s	100%.
4956s	100%/ That's interesting.
4958s	That's a very interesting take from our Emcee here.
4961s	Why do you call him Grooten?
4963s	I don't understand.
4963s	What is that supposed to— I don't understand.
4964s	See this is why I like him.
4966s	But I just don't actually understand.
4967s	What is it?
4967s	Is that not his name?
4968s	You said that so many times.
4969s	You guys were saying it yesterday too.
4970s	What is Grooten?
4970s	I have no idea what you're talking about.
4972s	What do you mean?
4973s	You guys said it, like, ten times yesterday.
4975s	I was sitting right here.
4976s	That's his name?
4977s	Yeah, Grenton.
4977s	What does Grooten mean?
4979s	I don't know.
4979s	What does Stoopzz mean?
4980s	Why are you arguing with us?
4981s	This isn't a debate between us.
4981s	I could talk to you about the lore.
4985s	True, you do have lore.
4985s	Wait I want the Stoopzz lore.
4986s	I can't because I'm not allowed to say like, stuff on.
4988s	Oh.
4989s	Yeah.
4990s	Yeah, yeah.
4990s	A TV show.
4991s	Well, I don't know what these guys are talking about, but are you both ready for your final debate?
4995s	It's the final debate of the season.
4997s	Yeah, I'm ready to go.
4998s	I'm ready.
4999s	I have to go to the bathroom so bad, so someone has to wheel me out of here right after this is done.
5003s	This is crazy.
5004s	I need some help.
5004s	Alright.
5004s	Well, I really don't want to see that on camera.
5007s	So we're going to go ahead and get things started.
5010s	Stoopzz, you know what, you have the floor first.
5012s	Your first minute— what?
5013s	Do you not want it?
5014s	No, no, no, it's fine.
5016s	Let's go.
5016s	Okay.
5016s	I'm ready, full speed.
5016s	Your minute to debate starts now.
5016s	Full speed.
5019s	Okay, so.
5021s	Lost Ark.
5021s	Listen, everyone always talks about Lost Ark, right?
5023s	And we all know that, you know, if you get into the game, everyone's experience, it's hard to get into groups orand stuff like that.
5027s	People can be a little bit more hurried for time, rushed, and it can create an environment that's maybe not as welcoming to new players cause you have stuff to do, right?
5035s	And so we've done a lot, you know, shout out to my mods and the Discord, TinyDam, Kim, Connor, all you guys.
5041s	I seen you in the chat.
5042s	You look cute today.
5043s	Thanks guys for being here.
5044s	Shout out to you guys for moderating that Discord for new players and getting them in there.
5049s	But the reality is, I think that you need to create more opportunities like that in game.
5053s	It doesn't have to be specifically in game like a mentor system but I think just whatever, have opportunities for people that like that, like Connor, Kim and etc to shine because not everybody is built for helping other people.
5064s	You have to do it out of the goodness of your heart, right?
5067s	You have to do because you want to, not for some stinkin reward or like a skin, you're gonna get the best results when you generally want to do something.
5074s	Am I good?
5074s	Do I got time for more?
5075s	You have more time.
5076s	Send it baby.
5077s	So yeah, that's what I would focus on there is giving those people more of an opportunity to play with other players and also not so much of the focus on raids.
5084s	Now you do not have more time.
5085s	That was your minute.
5087s	You made the most of it though.
5088s	Grenton, your first minute to make a debate starts now.
5092s	Yeah.
5093s	So everything you said makes sense.
5095s	But there's a underlying issue is that no matter how many nice people you have, you were saying like TinyDam, Connor, all these people, you're still going to have the biggest issue, which is gatekeeping.
5104s	And you gatekeep for a lot of reasons.
5105s	I play Reaper.
5106s	I was super excited to show Stoopzz's my 5x3+2.
5110s	His whole chat?
5111s	"Wasted nine seven on Reaper KEKW." So no matter what it is, at the end of the day, it has to be balance in the game that allows you to play the class you want, play to the build you want so you can get into these raids.
5124s	So the best way to bring new and returning players back to the game and create a healthier community is to make it so there's less of a discrepancy between the absolute top like predator slayer and the absolute bottom like, you know, machinist and kind of compress that gap so people aren't getting gatekept based on what they find fun.
5144s	All right, Stoopzz, you have one minute to make your final argument.
5148s	Yeah, that was kind of hard to come up with that on the spot huh?
5150s	Yeah, that was all improv.
5152s	I think ultimately an important topic, regardless of whatever, like this whole thing.
5156s	I think that the game ultimately should offer more avenues for people to interact and let players that are willing to help other players shine a bit more.
5164s	And I think taking away the focus from raids is also important, right?
5167s	Because Lost Ark is a game where it is a raiding game and in any game or MMO you ask people do they raid?
5173s	They might say no, but in Lost Ark, if you ask them, if you ask somebody if they raid, they're going to say yes 100% because that's the game, it's raiding.
5179s	With raiding, you're going to have people that aren't willing to sit there and teach other players.
5183s	So it creates this experience as a new player where you're trying to get into the end game content of raids and people aren't always going to be willing to teach you these things.
5189s	So I think by all— One, giving people an opportunity to help other players, I don't know what that solution actually is, but creating those and then Two, not putting so much of the focus on raids in an environment where it's a little more lax, chill and, you can kind of interact and hang out.
5203s	I think those are what make an MMO more welcoming to other players and new players specifically.
5209s	Right?
5209s	You have the diversity of content, but you also have to make sure that you can let veteran players teach other players— is that time?
5215s	All right, it's time.
5216s	I let you finish your sentence!
5218s	Grenton your final minute is now.
5220s	Yep.
5221s	And at the end of the day, it all comes down to, like you said, the content and what's in the game.
5224s	People, MMO communities have been like notoriously cutthroat.
5228s	That's the word I'll use, not toxic, where if you're not at their level, you're bad.
5232s	And if you're suddenly over their level, you're RMT-ing, like that's the sort of the community that MMOs fosters.
5237s	So you kind of gotta figure out a way to bridge that gap.
5240s	And I think what you were saying makes a lot of sense.
5242s	Less of a focus on raids.
5243s	We were talking about it earlier with more solo content, ways to express your skill, right?
5247s	To show that, hey, even though you play a class that isn't the top of the DPS, you have a way to show that, hey, I'm still a good player.
5254s	That in itself will alleviate a lot of the community sort of bias that other regions have imposed on our region.
5261s	But not only that, like you said, having people who are willing to help newer players is very important.
5266s	But I think even if you have thousands of people who are willing to help but the systems in the game and the discrepancies between classes is where it is now, then you can have the nicest people in the world and you're still going to have toxicity in the game.
5277s	All right.
5277s	That was your minute.
5279s	Twitch chat will now vote on what they think.
5283s	That was hard.
5283s	It got really friendly all of the sudden.
5285s	Jenny, we got the hard topics.
5286s	What is happening?
5288s	It is friendly.
5289s	Actually Bobajenny and Grenton are...
5291s	Yeah.
5292s	What are you?
5292s	What's goin' on here?
5293s	No we were just saying we got hard topics.
5294s	Oh, okay.
5295s	Yeah.
5295s	Well you know what you guys did a great job.
5297s	That was our last debate of the season as well.
5300s	Wow.
5300s	So we've done, you know, 12 episodes, six debates today in the live show.
5304s	And, you know, there were, like Kanon said earlier, some topics that are more challenging just to take an angle, take a stance.
5311s	But I think everybody...
5312s	I feel good.
5313s	Y'all did a good job debating.
5314s	You, uh, arguing, being argumentative, too, which you know, I think is more natural for some folks here.
5322s	But all in all, I feel like you guys did a really good job.
5324s	How are you all feeling?
5326s	Feeling pretty confident going in this last one that Stoopzz hopefully doesn't win another star because honestly, he's just gotten all the really easy topics today.
5335s	He's been saying this competition has been rigged from the beginning and he was right.
5340s	He was right!
5340s	For whatever reason everyone else has to debate the hard stuff.
5346s	That.
5347s	It's almost like he pitied.
5348s	Stoopzz looks confused.
5349s	What do you have to say?
5350s	I mean.
5351s	You had a really easy one.
5352s	Where like, the pheons.
5354s	The pheon one, but also like the gold and splitting it up.
5356s	And you're like, doing this like campaign and like running for president and you still lost to Bobajenny.
5360s	Damn!
5360s	Oh.
5362s	Smear campaign!
5362s	Look how awesome Bobajenny is though.
5365s	I would vote for her too.
5365s	I'm just saying!
5365s	I'm just saying.
5365s	Imagine voting for a giant bearded man or Bobajenny?
5370s	I don't know, am I wrong?
5371s	I'd vote for Bobajenny every time.
5372s	I mean, we have to figure out who won this debate.
5375s	And actually it will not be over until it is over.
5379s	Surprisingly, that's something Datmodz said, I wasn't trying to pick up on that.
5383s	But this is not, you know, this may not be for all the Mokoko seeds quite yet.
5387s	We want to see who won this last debate.
5389s	And this is important, but, you know, the audience will still have an important decision to make.
5393s	More on that later.
5395s	You know, we didn't actually ask Balthorr who he thought was the winner.
5399s	Uh huh.
5399s	Yeah.
5400s	Yeah.
5400s	I hear you loud and clear.
5402s	The fact is, Roxx, I am not drunk anymore.
5406s	I soaked up all the Cheetos from Datmodz's beard.
5410s	And I can also say without any competition, that we can all agree that I should be in the game more often.
5417s	Can we make that happen?
5419s	Anyone?
5420s	Hello?
5421s	Well, we'll see about that later.
5423s	After, maybe after this Debate Club finale.
5426s	And if you stop drinking on the job.
5430s	But before we do that, it looks like we have our final winner of the debates, but not our final winner of the show.
5438s	Grenton.
5439s	Hmm.
5440s	You're so unenthusiastic.
5442s	I main Reaper.
5445s	I cannot argue with that.
5447s	And that is why Stoopzz is not a Mokoko.
5449s	Wait, that is why he's not a Mokoko?
5450s	No, that's not really why.
5451s	Are you saying that Roxx's official view is that she hates Reapers?
5454s	It actually has to do with the whole debate you just did?
5455s	Yeah.
5456s	That's why he's not a Mokoko.
5458s	Put it on this.
5459s	I'm making a Reddit post about you.
5461s	You wouldn't be the first.
5461s	Bling bling man, you got stars.
5463s	Put it on your forehead.
5465s	Oh, my God.
5468s	Give him that star.
5468s	Stoopzz is putting on his third gold star.
5474s	Sheeeeeeesh.
5474s	Let's let him stick that on.
5474s	Look at that.
5474s	Look at that.
5475s	Look at how happy he is.
5476s	Yeah.
5477s	Kanon actually, Stoopzz's cape is almost as shiny as yours now.
5480s	It almost is.
5481s	Hey production team.
5482s	Can we get a, can we get a, can we get a zoom in on Stoopzz right now?
5486s	I haven't seen that man smile this much since.
5490s	Yeah.
5490s	Oh, nooo.
5491s	Ohkay!
5494s	Kanon knows too much, apparently.
5496s	We still have to tally all the votes.
5498s	And, you know, I know you can kind of see we just talked about, but we're going to count the votes, just to be sure.
5504s	And there will be another vote coming up soon.
5507s	So stick around to figure out who the winner will finally be and for those very important Twitch Drops.
5513s	But, you know, when we do that, we're going to head back to Balthorr at his support center one last time.
5518s	Yeah.
5519s	Uh huh.
5519s	Uh huh, yeah.
5520s	Thanks.
5521s	Thanks again.
5522s	Yeah.
5523s	Okay.
5523s	No, no.
5524s	You can still call me Papa.
5526s	Thank you for coming back to the Balthorr Live Support Center for you salty, salty players.
5534s	I am definitely not tipsy anymore, and I can read the comments like, we've got so many people here.
5540s	We got people saying "Go Stoopzz, go," so many people saying, "Huh, I'm confused." Wow, it sounds like you inside the raid.
5547s	Listen, I literally tell you what to do in those dungeons and you just can't do it.
5553s	Like, what's the point?
5554s	You know?
5554s	You know, why do I even try?
5557s	Kylin says "Balthorr card when?" you're speaking my language, brother, I tell you right now, I've been trying to figure that out my whole entire life.
5568s	Lets see, KaraSky says, "Ooh, you crazy hot." Oh, yeah, that's right.
5574s	Maybe like hot Cheetos.
5576s	Datmodz's!
5576s	Hot Cheetos next stream.
5578s	That's right.
5579s	Throw some over.
5580s	Heheh.
5581s	Digital bro said "I want my Balthorr card" You know, this is starting to look like the right chat.
5587s	In fact, I should change the name from Balthorr's Live Support Center for Salty Players to Balthorr to Live Support Center for Balthorr stans.
5597s	Yeah.
5597s	Look at all the people.
5598s	Everybody's going for Balthorr.
5600s	You know what?
5600s	I would shipBalthorr with Balthorr.
5603s	Yeah, I'd be in for that.
5605s	That'd be crazy, Tyrell says.
5608s	"Balthorr, are you single?" Well, who?
5611s	Maybe...
5612s	we're going...
5612s	No!
5613s	Not anymore.
5614s	Have you met Kanon?
5616s	Heheh.
5618s	Oh, let's see who's there, Georby says "Balthorr by far worst Sidreal.
5624s	Get Azena or Innana on the screen." I see what you're saying there, but like I said, maybe we could get you some.
5630s	I don't know, some some some nachos or some French fries or all that salt you're dealing with or maybe Stoopzz over here can wheel in.
5640s	This mothasucka said barrage enhancement Stoopzz.
5643s	Man F-you, man, you crazy, man?
5644s	He's upset.
5645s	He's upset.
5646s	Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first.
5648s	Stoopzz is angry.
5649s	He's wheeling all the way back to his spot at the speed of a snail.
5654s	He's so mad.
5655s	Don't put yourself near that Stoopzz because he's a snail and he will literally melt and die.
5660s	So don't do that.
5661s	Let's see who else we got here.
5662s	Oh, RandomOak99.
5665s	You are laughing your face off and I love you for it, baby.
5669s	Listen, this is a really good time.
5671s	I mean, I was talking to my friend Kanon over there for a moment, and he said maybe we could be friends, but maybe all of us can be friends.
5680s	You know, we could form like a community.
5683s	We, we could do a synchronized dance.
5686s	Oh, we could all dance at the same time.
5689s	Or maybe cry tears of sadness because we're all alone in drinking.
5695s	Hey, can we get some more ale, Roxx?
5697s	Maybe?
5698s	Maybe uh, maybe later.
5699s	Let's see who else we got going on over here.
5701s	Waspuee says, "Can we be friends?" You know it, I already said so.
5709s	Korusami says, "Can you sing for us?" I can sing you a song!
5715s	And it's not very long.
5717s	That's about it.
5717s	That's all I got for you.
5719s	We've got so many wonderful people.
5720s	People are very angry.
5721s	"Do the dance for us?" Listen, I was wasted when I did that dance.
5725s	Not going to lie.
5726s	Don't remember a step.
5727s	In fact, if you say that I dance, I don't believe you.
5730s	You're going to have to go back and watch it again later.
5733s	"Expose your hammer size?" Well, let's see here.
5737s	Yeah.
5738s	Heh?
5739s	I mean, you know, knocking on the boats of freedom!
5743s	Heheh.
5745s	I got to tell you right now, like I said, this is my favorite hammer.
5748s	I do have a little axe, but nobody uses those these days, You know what I'm saying?
5752s	Hey, "We love you," Big Nate.
5754s	Well, we love you.
5756s	In fact, I love all of you.
5758s	And you can all be a part of my multilevel...
5760s	oh, uh.
5762s	We'll talk later, babe.
5763s	We got to get back to the studio.
5765s	Back to you.
5765s	Roxx.
5768s	Woo!
5768s	Thank you, Balthorr, for keeping them...
5770s	I.
5771s	I don't know how you made them feel, but thank you for doing that.
5775s	So we're going to— actually, I was so distracted by Balthorr, I forgot to tally the votes.
5778s	He's good!
5781s	Bobajenny, can you like, lean foward?
5783s	One, three, three.
5786s	I have five.
5787s	I don't think.
5788s	Is that a star?
5789s	Do you count too?
5790s	I'm having a hard time seeing.
5791s	Yeah, I'm from.
5793s	Yeah.
5794s	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5796s	Oh, there we go.
5797s	Oh god, now they're confusing me.
5797s	Thanks man.
5798s	That's a pity.
5798s	That's a pity star.
5799s	Why would they do that?
5800s	Oh, you know what?
5801s	You know, none of the gold stars matter.
5804s	And you know what?
5805s	I lied all season!
5807s	All season did matter because it is up to the community to decide who is and who is not a Mokoko.
5814s	I know we said all season the aired debates didn't matter and only the final mattered.
5820s	But I changed my mind.
5822s	It's up to you to decide.
5824s	Put together, you know, your brains, collective Twitch chat hive mind.
5828s	That sounds scary, actually.
5829s	Maybe don't do that.
5830s	You know, think about what you saw today, what you saw during the season, the debates today.
5835s	You can think about the gold stars because they're pretty and shiny and we like pretty and shiny things.
5840s	But, you know, really think about all season, the debaters you saw and we want you, Twitch chat, to decide once and for all who is not a Mokoko.
5850s	While Twitch chat votes, you know what?
5852s	Why doesn't everybody give their final kind of campaign?
5855s	We'll go down the line and start with Datmodz.
5857s	Oh, a campaign speech!
5859s	Here we go.
5859s	Wow, right on the spot.
5860s	Okay.
5861s	Well, first off, I just want to thank all of you guys for watching.
5863s	And if you vote for me, you're just going to get one taps from this point forward.
5866s	I can't actually ensure this, but it is a possibility.
5869s	And I just want to give a big shout out to the production crew and Balthorr for the amazing performance.
5873s	Mr.
5874s	Stoopzz.
5875s	I love you, buddy.
5875s	And.
5877s	You're looking wonderful.
5878s	And then also just sharing this set with this entire crew is an absolute privilege.
5883s	Anyway, hopefully you guys found an entertaining.
5885s	Also, my son, not to guilt trip you guys, 18 months old.
5888s	He just wants to see his father be winner.
5893s	Wait, what is going on? 2543 01:38:13,822 --> 01:38:13,600 Please vote for me!
5894s	Please!
5897s	Alright Bobajenny, why don't you let chat know how you're feeling.
5903s	Uhm...
5903s	I never left the game.
5905s	I never left the game.
5907s	Damn.
5907s	I stuck through Lost Ark through thick and thin.
5911s	Still playing to this day.
5913s	When you're stuck on the floor, you can't get up.
5915s	Nah man.
5915s	No no no no, my Summoner is reformed.
5919s	Okay.
5920s	Reformed?
5920s	Reformed!
5921s	I've been reformed.
5922s	I'm no longer the helper of Azkaban.
5924s	This is a reform.
5927s	I stuck to the game through thick and thin.
5930s	All right.
5931s	Why?
5932s	Why do you have extensions on your forehead?
5935s	Listen.
5936s	I am the underdog here.
5938s	I'm the one who plays Reaper.
5940s	I've been bullied the entire season except by Stoopzz, he bullied me the entire season, but not now.
5943s	So that's nice of him.
5945s	If I win, I'll shave my head.
5947s	I will embrace.
5949s	I will embrace the bald memes.
5951s	That's not a big difference.
5952s	I know.
5952s	I know.
5953s	But it's a difference.
5955s	You crazy, Bobajenny, how are you going to say that?
5958s	All right.
5958s	Grenton will shave his head.
5960s	Stoopzz, is there anything you'd like to tell Twitch chat?
5964s	Yeah.
5964s	All memes aside, guys, thank you guys so much for watching.
5966s	I really, really appreciate it.
5968s	All the staff here.
5970s	Michael in the back, Tom, everybody, even drunk Balthorr.
5974s	It's really, really cool.
5975s	And I think honestly, I got so happy just reading all the people in the chat and like, just seeing all of us here.
5980s	It's kind of crazy that I met all these people through a video game.
5982s	And I'm just thankful that I'm here and yeah, just super cool that Lost Ark has brought so many people together.
5988s	I love all you guys and appreciate everybody.
5991s	So wholesome!
5992s	Don't wave too much yet because we're not going anywhere.
5995s	Those votes are coming in.
5998s	I think we have our winner.
6001s	We'll give them a couple more minutes to tally.
6003s	I just want to make sure.
6005s	Looks like we're good.
6006s	Balthorr any last words before we announce our winner?
6009s	Yes, I can absolutely say without a doubt that I have no idea where I am.
6018s	Alright.
6019s	Well, leave him there in his corner, then, where he can do the least amount of property damage and finally announce our winner.
6028s	Are you ready for this, Kanon?
6029s	I am.
6029s	But before we do, I just want to say something really quick.
6033s	First of all, big shout outs to AGS for putting this together.
6037s	Michael in the back.
6038s	Tom and Chuck, you guys have been fantastic, but all of you guys in Twitch chat should know the situation Mr.
6045s	Stoopzz has been through and he's a really good friend of mine.
6048s	I'm glad to have you out here now.
6051s	I thought Balthorr was a really good friend.
6052s	He is.
6053s	He is, but.
6053s	He's just my boo.
6055s	All right, well, it's finally time to announce our winner.
6058s	Datmodz is already making eye contact with me.
6062s	It's like he knows something.
6065s	You know what I know?
6065s	What happened?
6067s	You are a Mokoko.
6068s	Awww.
6069s	So there's still three left.
6070s	Grenton.
6072s	Three stars on your forehead.
6074s	There's four.
6075s	I don't know how to count.
6077s	That's definitely four.
6078s	Sorry.
6078s	I'm not surprised you could fit that many on there man.
6079s	I was getting blinded, this gold star and forehead sheen is very blinding.
6081s	I'm just leaning into it now.
6085s	You are also.
6086s	A Mokoko.
6087s	I don't know why I paused after I said also.
6089s	Yeah, I figured.
6089s	That made it.
6090s	Yeah.
6091s	That means we're down to two, Bobajenny and Stoopzz.
6096s	Mhm.
6097s	Twitch Chat already knows, but you guys don't.
6099s	So I have all the power right now.
6100s	I love it.
6101s	I know.
6102s	You cheated.
6103s	I saw it over there.
6104s	Why are you reading Twitch chat?
6107s	I can see the screen.
6108s	Why did you cheat?
6108s	Why did you take all my power?
6110s	I don't know.
6112s	Unreal.
6113s	Well, Stoopzz, you are not a Mokoko.
6119s	You are the winner of our Lost Ark Academy Debate Club finale and season.
6121s	Crown me Balthorr.
6122s	Look at that.
6123s	Oh, my god!
6124s	Oh, wow.
6127s	The lovely Balthorr has crowned you.
6129s	This is my pity crown, huh?
6130s	You won!
6131s	What do you mean it's a pity crown?
6132s	You look real good.
6133s	All right.
6133s	Balthorr, why don't you come join us over here?
6135s	And I know we kind of just did our campaign speeches, but I wanted to give everyone a minute to kind of share their parting thoughts.
6140s	Mr.
6140s	Balthorr!
6143s	You know, you've been here all season.
6144s	We did a lot of filming.
6145s	We did 12 weeks of episodes, and we've just well, not quite yet, but we're just wrapping up the live finale.
6153s	Datmodz, are there any parting thoughts you'd like to share with Chat, with the Lost Ark Community?
6157s	No, just thank you guys for watching.
6158s	And you guys are all peepocute.
6160s	And I hope you guys have a wonderful day and hopefully you get all the items that you want.
6164s	Aw, kind till the end.
6167s	Bobajenny, anything you'd like to share with the audience before we sign off?
6171s	I think Lost Ark has been very transformative in our lives in different ways.
6176s	I'm really happy to be a part of this and really see the game come to life.
6182s	And yeah, I just really enjoy my time here and everyone here is really awesome.
6186s	Awesome.
6187s	Thank you.
6188s	Grenton, the floor is yours with that shiny forehead.
6191s	Yeah, I'm just adding stars to my head now.
6193s	I think I'm allergic to these.
6194s	I'm crying.
6196s	Or you're just really emotional.
6198s	Yeah.
6198s	Stoopzz has a wreath, and I have a crown of stars.
6201s	But no, for real.
6201s	Thank you, everyone, for watching.
6202s	It was super fun.
6203s	It was awesome to meet all of you and Stoopzz, and meeting Kanon for the first time was cool, even though Balthorr makes fun of me.
6209s	Still a big fan, so.
6211s	It was really awesome.
6212s	Thank you again to everyone in production and everyone at Amazon Games for putting this together, because I can't think of any other company who would actively self roast themselves week after week and uh, take it on the chin.
6224s	So thank you everyone.
6224s	It was super fun and congratulations Stoopzz.
6227s	I don't think it was a pretty win.
6228s	I think you deserve to win.
6230s	Awwwww.
6230s	All right.
6230s	Stoopzz, our winner.
6231s	Do you have any parting thoughts?
6233s	Yeah, I kinda already said it all, but thank you guys so much for watching.
6236s	And thanks for voting for me.
6237s	Hi, Mom.
6238s	If you're watching, you might be watching at home.
6240s	And big shout out to just everybody in the chat, the community and stuff like that.
6244s	Like I know sometimes we're mad, you know, especially like the cubes.
6246s	Fix the damn cubes, Roxx.
6248s	I don't know what's going on with that thing, but.
6249s	I'm here!
6250s	I need more gems!
6251s	But overall, you know, like, I really, really do think it's super cool, especially on Twitch, like all the people that you get to see them in chat, you know their name, you know what I mean?
6259s	It's like it's like a cool experience, a very, like small knit community.
6262s	And also everybody here at Amazon, like, they work really, really hard you guys.
6266s	I've been around this office a few times now and they're working super, super hard trying to do cool stuff for you guys, the best they can.
6271s	So overall, I think big shouts at them, shouts to you guys, I love you and thanks for having me.
6276s	Awesome.
6276s	Thank you so much, everybody.
6278s	Wow, I'm like, I just wanted to give you guys the floor for a minute.
6280s	I had a point of realization.
6282s	Datmodz has had a realization.
6283s	A new development?
6284s	Let's hear it Datmodz.
6285s	I just want to get one more thing off my head.
6287s	I just realized at this point, we all became friends because of this game.
6290s	And that's really what MMOs are about.
6292s	Talking about nurturing friendships without Lost Ark, I would've never met Stoopzz.
6297s	I would never raided with Grenton, and I never would've been— You ditched me last week, man, I can't believe it.
6303s	Let's keep it heartwarming.
6304s	We know.
6304s	We know, you can cry about it later.
6305s	I'm not letting that go!
6306s	You buy me a beer after this for sure.
6307s	As many as you want.
6309s	As many beers as you want.
6311s	I'm not freakin' Balthorr.
6313s	I'll wheel you around.
6315s	He's here, he's in for sure.
6317s	I'm always in for ale.
6318s	Are you going to finally invite me to a raid now.
6319s	Of course!
6321s	You're always welcome, just ask me.
6322s	Okay man.
6322s	All right.
6323s	Well, I feel like I'd be amiss to not ask Balthorr.
6327s	Any parting thoughts for the community as you know, a hero of Arkesia?
6330s	Yes.
6331s	I just have to say, after all our fun today, I want to be serious and say I love all my salty little babies.
6340s	All right.
6341s	Thank you all so much for joining us all season.
6344s	And with this finale, I just wanted to take a minute as well to say, you know, the community team has worked really hard on this.
6350s	I'm very grateful to be a part of it.
6352s	And it's been just really great to see the reaction to the show.
6355s	I know we did something totally weird, totally unexpected, like very clearly a little bit crazy, and it's not like something we've ever done before, but we've had a lot of fun making this content for you, you know, reading reactions.
6368s	We've learned a ton, and you know, I think you've probably seen we have some other videos that have come out recently, and it's just been really great to connect with the community on that level.
6376s	So we're still here.
6378s	The show may be ending, but we're already coming up with whatever we're going to do next and we'll still be around to see you.
6383s	And also, just on a personal note, thank you for letting me host the show and having me be a part of the Lost Ark community.
6390s	And this is by far the weirdest thing I've ever been paid to do.
6393s	So I'm very appreciative of that.
6395s	Yay for weird pay.
6396s	We love doing weird stuff, apparently.
6399s	All right, Kanon, why don't you close us out one last time?
6403s	Yes, ma'am.
6404s	Thank you guys so much for joining us here today.
6406s	I hope you guys enjoyed the show.
6408s	Before we close this out, I want to see you guys send as many hearts as you can.
6412s	I can't see the chat, so I'm going to trust that you guys do.
6414s	I want to see Dink Donks or Hearts in the chat for my good friend Stoopzz and everyone else here, especially Stoopzz.
6420s	It was very difficult for him to come.
6421s	I cannot imagine how difficult it was.
6424s	Are you bettering me up?
6425s	This is crazy man.
6428s	Of course man, of course.
6429s	You're my boy.
6430s	There's a lot of hearts.
6431s	There is?
6432s	Thank you, guys.
6432s	I appreciate that.
6433s	We're gonna go out to dinner tonight and he's still going to be wearing that thing if you keep hyping him up.
6437s	I mean let's go.
6437s	He's not taking that thing off.
6438s	Wheel me back, let's go I'm ready.
6439s	Thank you, guys.
6440s	I'm ready.
6441s	All right.
6441s	Thank you, guys.
6442s	Thank you all.
6443s	And we'll see you next time.
6446s	Bye.
6447s	Thanks.
6448s	Oh, yeah the jazz hands.
6448s	The jazz hands!

Lost Ark Academy Debate Club - Finale Remix

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