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So,a half an hour ago admin named "Taki7o7" (i think) ID "8C5CEA27E9C2E0D9" sabotaged our team On Totenwald map,whenwe were in the church he/she destroyed our spawns using "1411" and shot a couple of teammates.Are their actions just?

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6 months ago - /u/Titan_TT - Direct link

The Church doors can be constantly repaired. This was not intended and is an oversight. The ability to repair the door will be removed completely.

OPs team put banners and multiple engineers constantly repairing the door inside the church and made the Church unbreachable. This stalemate was kept for a long time. At the time that the moderator took action there was 1 minute and 30 seconds left on the timer, the moderator spawned inside the church and could not destroy the door, so after the warnings he thinned out the engineers. The attackers did manage to take the point but OPs team won the match on the next objective.

Whoever spawned inside the church via the banners could not leave; technically that also makes it banner griefing.

People in the match were complainin about the stalemate, and were thankful about the resolution.

The people that complained were the engineers.

6 months ago - /u/Titan_TT - Direct link

Originally posted by Pineappleonpizza3333

admins ban people for tking their own friends but get away with tking with a 1411? get stuffed

The 1411 is an admin tool, if a player does not heed a moderators warning, they can use it to get a players attention. If getting shot does not get their attention and the player continues their behavior then a temporary kick or even ban may follow, depending on the severity of the offence.

In this specific case, the engineer turtling reached a point where no action the attacking team could do would suffice to break the door down. The moderator issued warnings while this was going on and acted only in the last minutes to break the stalemate.

Overzealous door repairing that makes it impossible to destroy it no matter the actions taken is considered exploitation of a bug and will be moderated until a patch is released. The engineers did not receive any punishment, it was just the number of them that reached a critical mass.

Every moderation action is also logged and can be viewed by other moderators and developers to be reviewed.

6 months ago - /u/Titan_TT - Direct link

Originally posted by Pineappleonpizza3333

Worse shit take i've ever seen lol

you can't use that excuse when half of the admins have been caught giving people blunderbusses and 1411ing people they don't like on cam lmao

They were allowed to give the blunderbuss during the halloween event. That was toned down significantly now.

On to the point about them allegedly abusing the 1411. The videos usually show the moment a player gets shot, and no real context is given. When we examine logs we find that the admin gave ample warnings to the player and was breaking some rule. The 1411 is meant to be used as a warning system and to snipe out of bounds banners or ballista.

Full disclosure: mods had a tendency to shoot one another in the past without having the moderator tag visible, which lead to some interesting "mod abuse" clips where it was just mods shooting other mods. That was toned down as well.