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| 5s | welcome and welcome everybody uh it is |
| 8s | 2023 and we are back we are back I know |
| 11s | this is my first stream back anyway it's |
| 12s | been a while it's been a while how is |
| 14s | everybody doing I hope you are well uh |
| 17s | today if you haven't guessed because of |
| 19s | the guest we have on uh I am joined by |
| 22s | the wonderful mod Ed to talk all things |
| 25s | lore secrets of the north and more so |
| 28s | first off Ed how we doing |
| 30s | good good very good yeah it's uh it's |
| 33s | good to be back |
| 34s | um |
| 35s | it's been quite a while since we lasted |
| 37s | a law q a so uh very excited to be |
| 39s | talking about uh potentially some uh |
| 42s | some fun merger at antics |
| 46s | indeed indeed I always love these ones |
| 48s | as well because especially when you get |
| 49s | to go to town on all things Law related |
| 52s | I think it's uh some of the best ones we |
| 54s | have uh so yeah uh how what have you |
| 57s | been up to this week or is it all uh or |
| 59s | quite hush hush |
| 62s | oh well uh |
| 64s | I suppose this was it's not Hush Hush to |
| 67s | say that uh let's see with secrets for |
| 70s | North having gone out uh last week but |
| 72s | uh now the uh the next big thing for us |
| 75s | is uh is indeed desert treasure two so |
| 78s | uh this week has been the first uh |
| 82s | it's like first first like proper week |
| 84s | of the uh desert Treasure 2 project |
| 86s | we've done like sort of like little bits |
| 87s | of design work here at this or |
| 89s | inevitably like working on secrets and |
| 91s | off and stuff like that you come up with |
| 92s | ideas and open them down but this week |
| 94s | is kind of a first week properly uh |
| 96s | beginning uh the design work on uh on |
| 99s | desert treasure two so uh yeah really |
| 101s | exciting stuff obviously I can't say uh |
| 103s | any more but looking forward to sharing |
| 105s | uh sharing that with people very soon |
| 109s | yeah I'm not gonna lie me and uh me and |
| 111s | Goblin had some sneak peek earlier when |
| 113s | we was uh working through some things |
| 114s | and it looks very interesting uh I'll |
| 117s | just leave it at that so yeah so before |
| 120s | we uh jump into all things law let's |
| 122s | talk about some announcements so |
| 124s | exclamation mark game update uh this |
| 126s | week's update saw some tweaks to secret |
| 128s | to the north alongside some new quests |
| 131s | to uh Quest speed running uh not only is |
| 134s | there uh some that have come out of beta |
| 136s | but there's some new ones that have gone |
| 137s | in to Beta so see how fast you can clear |
| 140s | below Ice Mountain and Temple of AI and |
| 143s | in beta at the moment there's x marks |
| 144s | the spot and a kingdom divided so you |
| 147s | can check out all of that and some |
| 149s | funkiness uh in this week's update by |
| 152s | using that command uh the next one is |
| 155s | exclamation mark |
| 157s | s-o-t-n uh the martial art storyline |
| 159s | continues so unraveled the secrets of |
| 161s | the north and take on an otherworldly |
| 163s | boss in this brand new Master Quest so |
| 165s | you can check that out that exclamation |
| 167s | mark there uh animation Mark hole 78 so |
| 172s | the first of 2023's quality of life poll |
| 174s | is here with poll 78 you can check out |
| 177s | the new space to see what we have in |
| 178s | store as well as a survey to let us know |
| 180s | not only what changes you want us to |
| 182s | prioritize but also uh what TOA |
| 185s | improvements you'd like to see as well |
| 187s | as any future quality of life |
| 190s | whole questions you'd like us to |
| 191s | consider and I will say after this |
| 194s | stream I will be updating it with a |
| 196s | little list of stuff from your feedback |
| 198s | changes uh I'm not I'm just gonna |
| 201s | um say that don't expect any major |
| 204s | changes to the questions the questions |
| 205s | are staying the same there's just some |
| 207s | updates we want to share with with you |
| 209s | all so and finally we've got exclamation |
| 212s | mark accounts so we've got an update on |
| 214s | the jagex accounts which came out today |
| 216s | including info on the first of the close |
| 219s | beta's coming soon so you can learn more |
| 222s | about our plans for the jagex accounts |
| 224s | in our News Post there's also a handy |
| 226s | FAQ within the blog so check that out |
| 228s | before sending your questions over okay |
| 231s | so I think Ed we should just go straight |
| 234s | into the questions |
| 237s | um I hope you're ready for some uh |
| 239s | martial art related Mysteries |
| 243s | all right |
| 245s | good good stuff all right so the first |
| 248s | one we have is I've oh there's no names |
| 250s | on this one okay interesting there's no |
| 252s | names so they've all been kept a secret |
| 254s | okay uh I've really enjoyed secrets of |
| 256s | the north what was your inspiration when |
| 258s | creating secrets to the north and |
| 260s | there's a sort of follow-up question to |
| 261s | say did anything uh in particular |
| 264s | Inspire The Narrative behind it |
| 267s | so with secrets of the north uh a large |
| 270s | part of it came out of uh actually sort |
| 273s | of like for planning for Desert treasure |
| 276s | two |
| 277s | very like pretty much like very early on |
| 280s | desert treasure too it's sort of like |
| 281s | decided for |
| 282s | not only should it be a sequel to death |
| 284s | treasure one but also very much I'll |
| 286s | feel like a spiritual successor so uh to |
| 289s | like retain some of the iconic elements |
| 291s | like four new bosses in four new areas |
| 295s | uh that you have to uh defeat to unlock |
| 298s | some treasure in the desert |
| 300s | and then once that has sort of been |
| 302s | established uh |
| 304s | we moved on sort of starting to labor |
| 306s | groundwork for um |
| 308s | four of those four bosses in areas which |
| 311s | we started doing with other quests so |
| 314s | the first one was uh below Ice Mountain |
| 316s | uh then we did a temple of the eye and |
| 320s | uh the garden of death as well uh just a |
| 322s | just end of last year and so from that |
| 326s | sort of setting up these areas uh like |
| 328s | four areas we needed four quests and |
| 330s | that's sort of went conversation around |
| 331s | like well the fourth Quest could |
| 332s | potentially be |
| 334s | uh |
| 335s | and for that one |
| 338s | we're quite keen on uh not just having |
| 340s | it sort of human free where it just |
| 341s | introduces the area but also making it |
| 343s | in itself a major at Quest as well and |
| 346s | sort of like with it having been so long |
| 348s | since we've last uh seen any of them as |
| 350s | you're at uh sort of easing people back |
| 352s | into the March storyline with a smaller |
| 355s | but hopefully still quite impactful uh |
| 357s | addition to the storyline before the fun |
| 359s | really uh really kicks off in desert |
| 362s | treasure too so that was sort of like |
| 364s | the how the conversation on secrets are |
| 367s | not started and then as for like the |
| 369s | specifics of like what happens in it um |
| 373s | with it being |
| 375s | although it very much designed to set up |
| 377s | desert treasure too it is a very |
| 379s | important quest in its own right because |
| 380s | it is our first continuation of the |
| 382s | majorette storyline it is very much |
| 384s | setting uh |
| 385s | hopefully setting the standard for uh |
| 388s | all of our future major at work so one |
| 391s | of the things we did was uh looked at |
| 394s | be a large request we don't have in Old |
| 397s | School the ones that are in RuneScape uh |
| 399s | that sort of came out like um I mean |
| 401s | anytime after 2007 backup up until uh |
| 404s | ritual homage you're at in uh 2011. |
| 407s | and |
| 409s | it was very important to stay but we |
| 411s | wanted to stay true to |
| 414s | what the majorette storyline was |
| 415s | especially a storyline like that where |
| 418s | it's incredibly iconic it was incredibly |
| 420s | well received most of it was all written |
| 422s | by the same person who was you know Paul |
| 426s | Gower himself uh so it's not it was one |
| 429s | of those ones where like we need to make |
| 431s | sure we stay true to it but at the same |
| 432s | time |
| 434s | it still needs to |
| 436s | doesn't want to just be a rehash of |
| 438s | what's happened before people already |
| 439s | know that story so how can we |
| 441s | simultaneously stay true to Paul gowan's |
| 444s | work but also introduce uh some old |
| 447s | school elements so we looked at those |
| 449s | quests and uh |
| 451s | the one that stuck out was a tale of a |
| 454s | muscle which uh was a like a small |
| 456s | novice Quest that came out um |
| 459s | I think it was actually the first Marge |
| 460s | request that came out after a while |
| 461s | gothic's sleep so at that point dimar |
| 464s | storyline RuneScape was in full swing |
| 466s | but it's still quite a bit of a |
| 467s | backstory if it was unknown and tale of |
| 468s | a muscle I was a short Quest that was |
| 470s | used to like establish some of the |
| 471s | elements it would be key in like the |
| 473s | following majorette quests and uh that |
| 476s | sort of kind of made a lot of sense so |
| 478s | it must be in a similar place of like uh |
| 479s | we've got these marjack quests they're |
| 481s | quite cool not the one in a long time we |
| 483s | need to |
| 484s | reintroduce people to the story get |
| 486s | people back into it again and sort of |
| 488s | like introduce the key elements like |
| 489s | they can expect to see more moving |
| 491s | forward so taking some elements and tail |
| 493s | of muscle made a lot of sense but also |
| 495s | adding our own uh our own twist on it uh |
| 498s | by uh taking elements from a place as |
| 500s | well adding a few new things here and |
| 502s | there |
| 503s | um obviously in particular the stuff |
| 505s | with uh Hazel and uh the connection to |
| 507s | devious minds and uh and yeah sort of |
| 510s | the end result uh was a secrets of |
| 513s | enough |
| 522s | I'm double muted apparently so yeah |
| 525s | there we go |
| 527s | yeah I was I was just saying yeah it's a |
| 530s | I mean it's a fantastic West I really |
| 532s | enjoyed it it both Within the play tests |
| 534s | and uh doing it on my on my main account |
| 536s | again so it was a it was nice to to do |
| 540s | that and we even saw some graphical |
| 541s | improvements to the the uh the Margaret |
| 544s | returned which was quite nice to see |
| 546s | actually so |
| 547s | yeah |
| 548s | all right so uh we have sort of |
| 551s | something similar uh on the next |
| 553s | question Ed but which quests have been |
| 555s | your favorite to work on is secrets on |
| 557s | North one of your favorites |
| 560s | so I guess the word in the question like |
| 563s | favorite to work on which is an |
| 565s | interesting question because like not |
| 566s | necessarily the same as which quests are |
| 567s | my favorite uh I definitely say that |
| 571s | there's some quests that |
| 574s | we're just really enjoyable to create |
| 575s | and even if they're so like the end |
| 577s | result isn't necessarily sort of like a |
| 578s | quest I look at her and go like oh like |
| 580s | that's one of the better ones I've |
| 581s | worked on that sort of thing there might |
| 583s | be some like small novice quests or |
| 584s | something like that |
| 585s | but |
| 586s | I think the the ones that are really fun |
| 589s | to work on are um |
| 593s | I think they are to be honest they are |
| 594s | actually ones like secrets for enough |
| 596s | where you're sort of doing actually |
| 597s | doing a lot of setup for future because |
| 598s | you get to have a lot of fun with sort |
| 600s | of like little teasers and stuff like |
| 601s | that and uh |
| 602s | putting things in that you know people |
| 605s | can speculate on and that sort of thing |
| 606s | they can actually sometimes they can be |
| 608s | more fun to work on than the actual sort |
| 611s | of like really big ones where lots of |
| 612s | stuff starts happening because uh |
| 615s | because what you could do afterwards is |
| 616s | you even just sit on uh on social media |
| 618s | and watch people speculate on what did |
| 619s | this mean what did that mean so uh I |
| 622s | don't actually know what I'd say with my |
| 623s | favorite quest to work on but I |
| 624s | definitely want to say secret to North |
| 626s | it's definitely up there |
| 629s | excellent excellent all right so was |
| 631s | there a particular part of Secrets from |
| 633s | the north outside of the building up for |
| 635s | bigger things that you you particularly |
| 636s | enjoyed |
| 638s | uh I'd say um |
| 641s | really enjoyed doing stuff with uh Hazel |
| 644s | uh he's a character that was one of the |
| 648s | things sort of very early on in |
| 649s | development sort of uh |
| 652s | decided that we want to do more with |
| 654s | that character in RuneScape he's one of |
| 656s | the ones that isn't really explored due |
| 658s | to the whole uh whole thing of a |
| 661s | diverting storylines of uh is he uh is |
| 664s | he back or is he not so |
| 667s | that was one of the things that like we |
| 669s | do want we do want to bring him back and |
| 671s | do more with him so that was one thing |
| 673s | that was really fun but on the flip side |
| 674s | another thing that was actually really |
| 675s | quite fun was working on the uh on the |
| 678s | puzzles at the end uh we've talked for |
| 679s | quite a while about uh like it would be |
| 682s | fun to do like some more escape room |
| 684s | style puzzles in Old School a very like |
| 686s | a lot when you look back at a lot of |
| 687s | like the really like old quests to sort |
| 689s | of like those kinds of pulls like really |
| 691s | seen as a like classic uh classic Quest |
| 693s | puzzles but we've actually really done |
| 695s | too many in old school so it was really |
| 697s | fun doing some sort of like very like |
| 699s | traditional uh style puzzles |
| 703s | yeah I'm not gonna lie in terms of the |
| 705s | puzzles lately Garden of death I adore |
| 709s | The Garden of death and just the way we |
| 711s | did that like just like no hold hand in |
| 714s | just sort of like here's what you need |
| 716s | to do and you go and figure out all the |
| 717s | steps along the way like I I was I was |
| 720s | doing the quest |
| 721s | on my main next to uh my wife and she |
| 725s | was like oh this is really interesting |
| 726s | oh what's going on here and just like |
| 729s | you could see her leaning like closer |
| 731s | and closer to the screen as I was doing |
| 732s | bits and pieces and it was uh it was |
| 734s | fantastic |
| 736s | um yeah the garden of deaf is a really |
| 738s | uh it's a it was a really fun quest to |
| 739s | make uh it's one of those things where |
| 742s | I think sometimes when doing quests like |
| 744s | that like a smaller quests you get the |
| 746s | opportunity to try something a little |
| 747s | bit different and it's definitely not |
| 749s | going to be for everyone but yeah you |
| 751s | get the opportunity to like think |
| 752s | outside the box a bit and like what what |
| 755s | what could we uh what could we do here |
| 756s | but we don't normally do and |
| 758s | conveniently The Garden of death is one |
| 760s | of the four setup Quests for uh desert |
| 762s | treasure two so if you haven't already |
| 764s | played it |
| 766s | yeah I'd highly recommend Garden Of |
| 769s | Death 100 not just for the setup but |
| 772s | everything else is fantastic West |
| 775s | um all right there's there's one here |
| 776s | which uh I suppose |
| 779s | maybe like development time or just in |
| 782s | terms of you setting up law wise Ed but |
| 784s | how long did you spend creating secrets |
| 786s | to the north |
| 787s | uh so actual development uh |
| 791s | it was it was a fairly short project |
| 792s | this one it's not it's not it's |
| 795s | a hugely long Quest I mean it's not |
| 797s | super shot either it's not like a mid |
| 799s | sort of medium length one I'd say when |
| 801s | you compare it to a request uh I mean we |
| 803s | started development on it in uh October |
| 806s | and finished in uh December so it took |
| 809s | about just just over two months to make |
| 811s | a so |
| 813s | leaning towards sort of like I guess |
| 815s | sort of like |
| 817s | it's not like middle ground with regard |
| 818s | so how long it takes us to make quests |
| 820s | uh |
| 821s | I guess that's the actual development |
| 823s | though uh as sort of mentioned we sort |
| 824s | of been thinking about this and planning |
| 826s | a lot of this stuff for uh quite a bit |
| 827s | before then we first started uh thinking |
| 830s | about desert treasure to uh |
| 833s | about like three and a half years ago uh |
| 835s | that's when the first teaser started |
| 837s | appearing game with uh with gnome child |
| 839s | at via VIA birthday event and then |
| 842s | obviously as mentioned with a below ice |
| 843s | mountains so so like a lot of the like |
| 845s | ideas and stuff are sort of being like |
| 847s | potential designs when you're sort of |
| 849s | floating around for a while uh quite a |
| 851s | bit before development started |
| 856s | all right nice awesome uh and it's I |
| 859s | suppose to compared to like the previous |
| 861s | Quest Garden Of Death how long how long |
| 862s | did that take to make |
| 864s | so Garden Of Death was uh was actually a |
| 866s | that was a game Jammer project so that |
| 868s | one took a took a week to create a on |
| 872s | the whole we did do like a little bit of |
| 873s | tidying up afterwards so very of anyone |
| 876s | if anyone has ever done anything like a |
| 877s | game Jam they'll know but uh |
| 880s | those things can often be quite um |
| 884s | I want to say uh just just make make |
| 887s | anything but um |
| 890s | it they sometimes need a little bit of |
| 891s | Polish afterwards so uh focus on the |
| 893s | game channel is very much let's create |
| 895s | something that works and nurse it's |
| 896s | often quite fun about game Jam you get |
| 898s | something that's a little bit rough |
| 899s | around the edges and then you refine |
| 901s | afterwards so yeah Garden Of Death it |
| 902s | was about a week to making the game |
| 903s | German a few extra days afterwards to |
| 905s | actually polish up and make it |
| 906s | releaseable |
| 909s | I mean just just speaking on on related |
| 912s | topics the game Chan there is something |
| 913s | else that Ed created within a game Jam |
| 916s | that's uh also on the thing so people |
| 918s | should check out the pulsory ad block |
| 920s | for that it's very cool uh all right |
| 923s | next uh Law related question then uh |
| 926s | someone said I really like that Callahan |
| 928s | I hope I pronounced that right |
| 930s | uh is having another challenge and |
| 933s | that's how I think |
| 934s | Jalen okay all right cool yeah he's he's |
| 936s | not actually he's not one that I've made |
| 938s | he's a he's a character that appeared in |
| 941s | RuneScape as well so I believe that |
| 943s | pronunciation is uh Jalen uh |
| 946s | we need to say it is it's Canon now |
| 948s | that's a pronunciation in case it wasn't |
| 950s | there we go Jalen there you go you heard |
| 953s | it here first we need another mods uh |
| 955s | pronounciate James must pronounciate |
| 957s | RuneScape words |
| 960s | um all right and and that's how the |
| 962s | Phantom musfa manifests can you tell us |
| 964s | more about how you approach this |
| 965s | storytelling |
| 966s | yes I think sort of like kind of covered |
| 968s | us a bit of one of the other questions |
| 969s | and that we talked a bit about how we |
| 972s | looked at tale of a muscle in particular |
| 974s | and this is one of the things that we |
| 975s | wanted to uh |
| 977s | retain from RuneScape so like while |
| 979s | quite a bit of a quest like takes a very |
| 981s | different turn like |
| 983s | Jalen Mustafa was one thing we did want |
| 985s | to keep the same |
| 986s | but we wanted to make it feel more um |
| 991s | impactful like uh in in television with |
| 994s | being a novice Quest there's not |
| 995s | actually really any combat in that Quest |
| 997s | you just you find John as a musbar and |
| 1000s | then he just turns back into a major |
| 1002s | atom we wanted to make it sort of a bit |
| 1004s | more intimidating that this is a |
| 1007s | creature of a must VAR is something that |
| 1009s | the Mars are out of themselves fear to |
| 1011s | the point that Maja having nightmares |
| 1013s | about them and accidentally |
| 1014s | shape-shifting into them and turning |
| 1017s | that into a full boss fight was uh a |
| 1020s | really good way of showing it it's one |
| 1021s | of those really fun places where like |
| 1022s | sort of a game playing The Narrative |
| 1024s | combined like we knew we wanted to do a |
| 1025s | big boss at the end of a quest and we |
| 1027s | wanted to make the muscle feel more |
| 1029s | intimidating and what better way than |
| 1030s | sort of combining that make the muscle |
| 1032s | of a boss itself |
| 1035s | I mean it's a very cool looking bus I'm |
| 1037s | not gonna lie this is very cool uh |
| 1040s | speaking on I suppose the tales of |
| 1042s | musfire uh are there any future plans to |
| 1044s | follow the major art story uh outside of |
| 1047s | uh what we've already presented I |
| 1049s | suppose especially with stuff like wild |
| 1052s | Gothic sleeps and ritual the majora |
| 1056s | so |
| 1058s | I guess that's sort of like a sort of |
| 1060s | kind of uh semi answer this earlier but |
| 1063s | uh like as a question well the question |
| 1065s | says tangents to other Mustafa which uh |
| 1068s | sometimes quite a word I'd use but it |
| 1070s | definitely there definitely is sort of |
| 1072s | like a connection to tell them as well |
| 1073s | as the quest we looked at the most but |
| 1074s | we also wanted to make sure we added |
| 1077s | plenty of old school unique elements uh |
| 1079s | and hopefully sort of like people that |
| 1081s | see those elements that sort of gives |
| 1082s | you an idea sort of like some of the |
| 1084s | stuff we're planning for the future |
| 1086s | and hopefully sort of shows that um as |
| 1090s | sort of mentioned earlier but while we |
| 1092s | do very much intend to stay uh stay true |
| 1094s | to sort of like the |
| 1096s | feel of a of the original marjak Quest |
| 1099s | and sort of like the characterizations |
| 1101s | like individual characters and stuff |
| 1102s | like that that |
| 1104s | this isn't just going to be a copy and |
| 1107s | paste uh there is it is going to move in |
| 1110s | a little bit of a different direction |
| 1113s | um |
| 1114s | and as part of that I realize I'm |
| 1115s | probably going to probably answer a few |
| 1117s | questions in one here that might come up |
| 1118s | later but it also have interlinks so we |
| 1120s | can talk about it a bit uh I suspect uh |
| 1123s | assuming we don't run off time later in |
| 1125s | the Stream we might talk a little bit |
| 1127s | about uh Quest backboarding about the |
| 1130s | survey because I know if there was a |
| 1131s | question about that uh |
| 1134s | um and one of the things that was on |
| 1135s | that survey was while Gothic sleeps and |
| 1137s | basically with what our sort of feeling |
| 1139s | is when looking at the marjack quest |
| 1141s | there's a few from RuneScape that we |
| 1143s | want to follow relatively closely like |
| 1145s | the Lucy inside with valkyr fix Loops |
| 1147s | it's something that we'd like to say |
| 1149s | fairly true to if nothing else uh |
| 1152s | it's considered one of the most iconic |
| 1154s | quests of all times and uh there's a |
| 1157s | there's could be dangerous to try and |
| 1159s | perfect uh what is already close to |
| 1161s | Perfection uh so uh with how the loved |
| 1164s | wall Gothic sleeps is I think I wouldn't |
| 1166s | want to just change that story for the |
| 1168s | sake of it just to try and do something |
| 1169s | different and so when it comes to doing |
| 1171s | different things uh the hope is that |
| 1173s | they add to the storyline so Quest like |
| 1177s | Walger fix sleeps uh |
| 1179s | I'm very much hopeful that we can see |
| 1182s | our owner versions of folks in old |
| 1183s | school at some point but stay fairly |
| 1185s | true to those stories but other aspects |
| 1187s | of the majorette storyline I think |
| 1189s | there's going to be some quite |
| 1190s | unexpected twists and turns there and as |
| 1192s | a result I don't expect we will do |
| 1194s | ritual for marjorat in old school |
| 1196s | because uh ritual of a major app with it |
| 1199s | being the |
| 1200s | finale of a major storyline Where It All |
| 1202s | Leads to if we wanted to take ritual of |
| 1205s | Maja and put in Old School that would be |
| 1206s | basically us committing to |
| 1208s | doing all the other majak quests as well |
| 1210s | exactly as they were done in RuneScape |
| 1212s | which we don't want to do so |
| 1214s | we will have our own version of the |
| 1217s | Margaret finale and a ritual will of |
| 1220s | course take place in it but it will not |
| 1221s | be a ritual of a major app |
| 1224s | [Music] |
| 1226s | awesome stuff thank you Ed uh yeah I |
| 1228s | mean speaking of uh questions that you |
| 1231s | sort of answered already I suppose we'll |
| 1233s | ask this anyway because you might have |
| 1235s | something further to say uh secret stuff |
| 1237s | is very fun it has awesome lore with a |
| 1240s | great setup for dt2 can you explain the |
| 1242s | brainstorming process for this awesome |
| 1243s | Lord to tie it to dt2 and continue |
| 1246s | devious minds and uh Hazel cult easy or |
| 1250s | cult |
| 1252s | yeah so uh this is quite like convenient |
| 1255s | actually got to this question next to |
| 1257s | the devious lines of cult those are sort |
| 1259s | of the connections that we wanted to add |
| 1260s | for |
| 1261s | didn't that weren't present in RuneScape |
| 1264s | and uh sort of like they sort of like |
| 1265s | played a big part of the the old school |
| 1267s | elements we wanted to add to this but um |
| 1269s | so as I already mentioned Hazel is a |
| 1271s | character that was one of the Margaret |
| 1273s | that wasn't really explored too much in |
| 1275s | RuneScape at least not |
| 1277s | not the time when these quests were |
| 1278s | coming out um |
| 1280s | and devious Minds was one that while |
| 1284s | while it did play a pie it was quite a |
| 1287s | small part uh it was sort of like um |
| 1291s | had a small small connection to a |
| 1293s | template senderston but not not too deep |
| 1296s | on it was basically uh spoilers for |
| 1298s | anyone who hasn't played template |
| 1299s | Sanderson it's been uh it's been quite a |
| 1301s | long time so hopefully you don't mind uh |
| 1303s | like the assassin reappears in that |
| 1305s | quest uh and he uh gives the player the |
| 1307s | uh Relic that he stole so it could be |
| 1308s | used as part of uh as an address uh sort |
| 1312s | of like um |
| 1314s | ritual that he's doing to uh uh rest up |
| 1317s | hopefully re-establish contact with uh |
| 1319s | with zaros and uh |
| 1322s | again it's one of those things where |
| 1324s | devious Minds is part of a Margaret |
| 1326s | storyline it wasn't obvious in old |
| 1328s | school before but it absolutely always |
| 1330s | was he uh admittedly the developer of |
| 1332s | devious Minds who's no longer at the |
| 1334s | company didn't leave much documentation |
| 1336s | on what their plans were for a sequel to |
| 1338s | that Quest but one thing they did make |
| 1340s | very clear from some comments I left in |
| 1342s | the code is that devious Minds from the |
| 1344s | very beginning was always a major |
| 1345s | request just never obvious at the time |
| 1348s | so we took those comments and we we ran |
| 1350s | with it and tried to uh tried to link it |
| 1353s | into this we really wanted to |
| 1355s | feature the Assassin quite a bit more |
| 1358s | heavily than he was featured in |
| 1359s | RuneScape and making sort of like a core |
| 1360s | part of the story and make it feel like |
| 1362s | devious Minds is a is it is its own |
| 1364s | worthy part of the marjorat storyline |
| 1366s | rather than just sort of like oh it's an |
| 1367s | afterthought uh let's not worry about |
| 1369s | that one uh so yeah like those two |
| 1372s | quests are like it was very key from the |
| 1374s | start that they play a big role here |
| 1378s | yeah it's very cool I mean the Assassin |
| 1379s | in itself especially is Iconic uh bow |
| 1383s | sword weapon I think is a |
| 1385s | quite iconic piece that it's nice to see |
| 1388s | return in its own right anyway |
| 1390s | and indeed uh maybe not the last we'll |
| 1393s | see of him |
| 1395s | oh all right nice T there's the first |
| 1398s | tease I was waiting I was waiting for |
| 1400s | the first Ed Ed teaser drop and we're 26 |
| 1403s | minutes in that's not too bad that's not |
| 1405s | too bad sorry |
| 1407s | um all right uh question seven we have |
| 1409s | is there a law reason why the Phantom |
| 1411s | Mustafa uses corruption which is |
| 1413s | otherwise associated with the uh Arceus |
| 1415s | magic or is that coincidental |
| 1419s | okay so I'm gonna have to be probably a |
| 1421s | bit disappointing here and follow on the |
| 1423s | last uh fun little teaser with uh a |
| 1425s | rather boring answer that uh like the |
| 1428s | only reason corruption well before this |
| 1430s | Quest the only reason correction was |
| 1432s | considered tied to the Arceus spell book |
| 1433s | is because it was the only place where |
| 1435s | it was used but it was never the |
| 1437s | intention that corrupt shouldn't be some |
| 1438s | like archaeus or like Korean specific |
| 1441s | effect it was just meant to be designed |
| 1443s | as like a new sort of like General |
| 1444s | prayer draining effect that could be |
| 1446s | used throughout the game it's not |
| 1447s | similar to like poison or |
| 1449s | I don't say disease but it's not like |
| 1451s | diseases used anywhere in the game |
| 1452s | probably for good reason but along that |
| 1454s | sort of line so so no I'm afraid I'm |
| 1456s | afraid not uh there's not really meant |
| 1458s | to be any uh |
| 1460s | any secret like hints or tears in that |
| 1463s | it's just uh it's an effect that we |
| 1465s | expect to use in various places in the |
| 1467s | game |
| 1469s | it's a cool mechanic it's a cool |
| 1471s | mechanic it's nice to see uh see it see |
| 1473s | it come into Old School in like a nice |
| 1475s | nice way |
| 1476s | um all right the uh question a I mean |
| 1481s | will we be seeing more martial art in |
| 1483s | the future that haven't yet appeared in |
| 1485s | Old School like how Jalen was introduced |
| 1487s | in this Quest |
| 1489s | oh spoiler territory but uh but yes yes |
| 1492s | we uh |
| 1494s | we don't want to go overboard and start |
| 1496s | having larger reference Center one of |
| 1498s | the really nice things about the Majora |
| 1500s | is they're sort of like |
| 1502s | there's like there's just there's a |
| 1504s | really nice amount of them that like |
| 1505s | each one of them sort of has her own |
| 1506s | unique like unique distinct character |
| 1508s | that you can explore into like like |
| 1511s | reasonable detail like their quests and |
| 1513s | stuff like that if you start adding too |
| 1514s | many you sort of lose that and it starts |
| 1515s | to become more about just for Maja as a |
| 1518s | race rather than as the individual so we |
| 1519s | don't want to like introduce too many uh |
| 1522s | but there are a few more who haven't yet |
| 1524s | appeared in Old School who will do over |
| 1526s | the like uh future quests and when I say |
| 1529s | quests I do mean quests like I don't |
| 1531s | expect every single Marge wrap to appear |
| 1532s | in desert Treasure 2 for example will |
| 1534s | save others for like other other stories |
| 1537s | um |
| 1538s | but yeah we're not going to go overboard |
| 1539s | so it'll it'll mostly just be the ones |
| 1541s | that were sort of in RuneScape in the uh |
| 1544s | like 2007 to 2011 era so the ones that |
| 1548s | sort of appeared in those Post Old |
| 1549s | School quests uh prior to Ritual of |
| 1551s | majara rather than any of the uh others |
| 1554s | that are sort of like spoken about just |
| 1556s | in like history and stuff uh or any like |
| 1558s | new ones |
| 1561s | yeah don't don't expect an end game |
| 1563s | style all the all the characters are |
| 1566s | here now kind of things because I don't |
| 1568s | think I don't think that's gonna happen |
| 1571s | um all right and again this is another |
| 1573s | question Ed that you uh you've sort of |
| 1575s | touched on but I like the follow-up |
| 1577s | question that this is where you can be |
| 1579s | as vague as you want uh is there a plan |
| 1582s | at the moment for where the martial arts |
| 1584s | story line is going I wonder if you have |
| 1586s | a plan Beyond dt2 or the ritual of |
| 1589s | Rejuvenation if those are different |
| 1590s | things for where you'll take it and will |
| 1592s | dt2 be the end of the martial art |
| 1595s | storyline or the beginning of something |
| 1597s | bigger |
| 1599s | so I just kind of alluded to this a bit |
| 1601s | with some of the previous answers but um |
| 1604s | of course not give too much away but |
| 1606s | make sure we uh at least provide a |
| 1609s | reasonable amount of clarity uh so |
| 1613s | when it comes to planning storylines uh |
| 1616s | like we generally plan out sort of like |
| 1619s | the big like main key beats uh and then |
| 1623s | so like some of the smaller details uh |
| 1625s | often aren't uh properly worried about |
| 1627s | until it actually comes to developing |
| 1629s | the individual quest uh it's a good |
| 1631s | bounce I found that's like served us |
| 1633s | really well with like the quest we doing |
| 1634s | but like you always know where the story |
| 1636s | is going there's always room for like |
| 1638s | little extra elements to be added based |
| 1640s | on like feedback or uh like other |
| 1642s | developments are happening in the game |
| 1644s | that sort of thing |
| 1645s | um so for the Margaret storyline uh the |
| 1649s | fact that yeah we are now working it |
| 1650s | means that we have planned out the key |
| 1652s | beats of like where this storyline is |
| 1654s | going to go |
| 1655s | and as a tradition plays a core part of |
| 1658s | that but it is uh it's not intended to |
| 1660s | be the finale I put desert treasure two |
| 1663s | as a wild Gothic sleeps to your |
| 1665s | questions but it's going to be big it's |
| 1666s | going to be impactful it is a grand |
| 1668s | master quest uh but there will be more |
| 1670s | to come after that so just like what |
| 1672s | while Gothic sleeps is to Ritual homage |
| 1674s | consider this something similar there |
| 1676s | will be additional quests after desert |
| 1679s | treasure two uh and similar to the way |
| 1682s | uh the marjoratzarella has worked up |
| 1684s | until this point where it's rather the |
| 1685s | linear storyline it's sort of like |
| 1687s | crisscrosses over a bit and like comes |
| 1688s | back and forth not all of us quests were |
| 1691s | required as a treasure two there'll be |
| 1692s | some coming from like different areas |
| 1693s | focusing on marjorette but we haven't |
| 1695s | seen much of yet or haven't done much of |
| 1697s | in a while then there will also be ones |
| 1699s | that directly uh follow on from dt2 as |
| 1701s | well and that sort of is uh X going back |
| 1704s | to ensure about backporting that's how |
| 1706s | we feel that we can do back ports of |
| 1708s | quests like while Gothic sleeps while |
| 1710s | still offering plenty of new things as |
| 1712s | well the major storyline is really well |
| 1713s | set up for that sort of thing with it |
| 1715s | being like lots of branching plot |
| 1718s | threads that then eventually come |
| 1719s | culminate together at the end rather |
| 1721s | than it being a linear storyline it |
| 1723s | means we can simultaneously do our own |
| 1724s | things and uh |
| 1726s | and um backpack quests as well so yes |
| 1730s | there's there is a rough plan it |
| 1732s | involves multiple quests some new some |
| 1735s | potentially backboarded and it will |
| 1737s | culminate in one big finale that will be |
| 1739s | the ritual of Rejuvenation but it will |
| 1742s | not be a ritual of a majak quest as you |
| 1744s | know it from RuneScape it'll be |
| 1746s | some other |
| 1748s | take on the ritual |
| 1751s | and to say anymore would be a spoiler I |
| 1753s | hope we've at least provides some |
| 1754s | clarity on what the plans are so for |
| 1757s | anyone who is who is thinking desert |
| 1759s | Treasure 2 might be the end uh I guess |
| 1762s | depending on depending on your take |
| 1764s | either |
| 1765s | side relief you've got plenty more |
| 1767s | marjorak coming or oh no horror plenty |
| 1770s | more Mars track coming |
| 1773s | yeah I think I mean I'm I'm in the |
| 1776s | camper definitely that's a good thing |
| 1777s | right so |
| 1780s | um I mean we've already spoken about |
| 1781s | this person but I the question in itself |
| 1784s | is pretty good so can we discuss the bow |
| 1786s | sword wielding Ninja Assassin who not |
| 1788s | only kills monks on entrana but also is |
| 1791s | messing up followers of zamarack uh is |
| 1794s | this a Rambo guffix agent a zerosian |
| 1797s | general three known children in a trench |
| 1799s | coat sliskay in disguise |
| 1803s | the best part about old school |
| 1805s | storytelling is that free dojo in a |
| 1807s | trench coat wouldn't actually be an |
| 1809s | impossibility uh for probably unlikely |
| 1812s | I've you know what I do like it though |
| 1814s | maybe we should make that true |
| 1817s | um so again don't want to give spoilers |
| 1820s | out what's happening in the future but |
| 1822s | uh so as we mentioned in an earlier |
| 1823s | question like we wanted to make the |
| 1825s | Assassin uh sort of like a much bigger |
| 1828s | character again some some of that was |
| 1831s | based on like the few small comments the |
| 1833s | original creator of uh devious Minds |
| 1836s | Left Behind uh but |
| 1838s | we wanted to explore him a bit more and |
| 1840s | we will be exploring him again in the |
| 1842s | future and uh hopefully providing some |
| 1845s | clarity on like who he is and what |
| 1847s | exactly is he up to and uh who's he |
| 1849s | working for |
| 1850s | is he working for anyone |
| 1853s | who knows |
| 1855s | ooh very mysterious very mysterious and |
| 1859s | talking of a more mysterious assassins |
| 1862s | someone asked with what's with the plot |
| 1865s | armor for assassins in Old School first |
| 1868s | akd and Now secrets of the north why do |
| 1870s | they keep killing people after being |
| 1872s | clapped by the player |
| 1877s | I don't think they have pla armor I |
| 1880s | think I mean |
| 1882s | I would I would say that wouldn't I I've |
| 1884s | made these quests uh some some person |
| 1887s | who wrote this question is now something |
| 1888s | like oh I've trapped him now come on Ed |
| 1890s | what are you gonna do here |
| 1892s | um I think like with akd like |
| 1896s | the assassins in that one um |
| 1900s | they were sort of written in that Quest |
| 1902s | sort of like very specifically be like |
| 1903s | uh they're absolutely terrible in a in a |
| 1907s | proper fight and that's why the player |
| 1908s | soil to effectively beat their their uh |
| 1912s | the advantage they have is their ability |
| 1914s | to be stealthy assassins and that is why |
| 1917s | variables do what they do at the end of |
| 1918s | the quest so that's obviously going to |
| 1919s | be it's obviously a huge plot point the |
| 1921s | current storyline is going to be |
| 1922s | explored very heavily |
| 1925s | but I say very heavily it is going to be |
| 1927s | the focus of the next quest of the |
| 1929s | correct storyline of uh |
| 1932s | why what I can spoil it can't I it's |
| 1935s | been a couple of years who killed the |
| 1937s | king who hired this assassin how was an |
| 1939s | assassin able to get into the castle |
| 1940s | what what how are they able to get past |
| 1943s | all the defenses both physical and |
| 1945s | magical and get into that castle anyone |
| 1948s | realizing and assassinate the king like |
| 1950s | that shouldn't have been able to happen |
| 1951s | what was the reasoning behind that and |
| 1953s | that is sort of like very much the focal |
| 1956s | point of the next quest in the current |
| 1957s | storyline when we come to doing that one |
| 1958s | so hopefully uh hopefully they don't |
| 1962s | have slot armor they just uh they had a |
| 1964s | very good plan and acted it very well |
| 1966s | and uh that might uh |
| 1969s | there's an interesting things in future |
| 1971s | quests and uh that's the secrets of the |
| 1973s | north you didn't you didn't clap him he |
| 1975s | just got bored and uh |
| 1978s | and cracked on that's that assassin is a |
| 1981s | he's definitely not your standard |
| 1983s | assassin that warning he's got some more |
| 1984s | tricks up his sleeve |
| 1988s | serious stuff I like this I like they |
| 1990s | said so I think we're gonna go from |
| 1992s | mysterious though to a bit more open and |
| 1994s | ask who's your favorite murderer |
| 1998s | oh who's the favorite |
| 2000s | um |
| 2003s | I don't know |
| 2007s | I do really I do quite like uh Hazel |
| 2011s | maybe I'm just biased because I saw what |
| 2013s | I mentioned doing like he's sort of like |
| 2015s | the the one of the main Majora in |
| 2017s | secrets of the northern one that wasn't |
| 2019s | exploding RuneScape so it was really fun |
| 2021s | like uh actually getting to do more with |
| 2023s | him |
| 2024s | um |
| 2025s | so he's on |
| 2027s | and I uh I've got a bit of an |
| 2029s | interesting I've always found act for |
| 2030s | Knuckles quite interesting but he's got |
| 2032s | a head of a camel like uh |
| 2036s | who goes right |
| 2039s | I'm going you've got the ability to |
| 2041s | shapeshift into anything you want you're |
| 2043s | a part of a race that has this magical |
| 2045s | ability to shape shift |
| 2047s | and you go |
| 2049s | I could be anyone |
| 2051s | I'm gonna be a camel |
| 2054s | I I find that fascinating and I really |
| 2057s | hope we get to explore more about his |
| 2060s | curious uh |
| 2062s | choices |
| 2066s | I get it for a day right just like I |
| 2068s | wonder what it's like I wonder what it's |
| 2070s | like ah it's not always cracked up to be |
| 2072s | and then move on to something different |
| 2073s | it seems like he's been in cam mode for |
| 2076s | a while at least I think it might have |
| 2079s | been quite a few thousand years he's |
| 2081s | been doing this so |
| 2083s | it's really quite the thing for him |
| 2086s | the man just loves camels camels |
| 2092s | uh all right cool actually chat what if |
| 2095s | you were a margin you could transform |
| 2096s | into anything what would you be what |
| 2098s | would you be at actually the first thing |
| 2100s | what would I be uh not a camel |
| 2103s | um |
| 2106s | I don't know is this is this |
| 2108s | transferring into another person or an |
| 2109s | animal or |
| 2111s | whatever you like we'll keep it open |
| 2113s | let's keep it open |
| 2116s | I don't know you've really you've you've |
| 2118s | really caught me out there you go |
| 2121s | trapped me |
| 2123s | I think that idea or something if it's |
| 2125s | like if the the transformation is like |
| 2127s | fully |
| 2129s | then I'd want to do something that can |
| 2130s | swim probably |
| 2135s | can you not swim |
| 2136s | I can swim but I sink it's my biggest |
| 2139s | you're on a swim swim |
| 2141s | I want to swim swim I want to like |
| 2143s | explore the depths of the ocean you know |
| 2145s | okay fair enough we'll say something |
| 2147s | like a like a like probably like a bird |
| 2149s | or something just go go for a little fly |
| 2151s | around just just to say you've done it |
| 2154s | yeah I think that's nice I think that's |
| 2156s | nice someone asked someone said they |
| 2157s | should they they want to turn into free |
| 2159s | known children in a trench coat which is |
| 2161s | very fitting |
| 2163s | um which one would you be would you be |
| 2165s | all of them though or would you just be |
| 2167s | the top one |
| 2169s | now now we're getting into the |
| 2171s | intricacies of how how do how does shape |
| 2173s | shifting work like what are the rules of |
| 2175s | shape-shifting |
| 2177s | yeah maybe presumably explore like when |
| 2181s | they shapeshift into humans they get a |
| 2183s | bit smaller so they can presumably |
| 2184s | change their Mass while shape-shifting |
| 2186s | what's the limit of that how big can |
| 2188s | they make themselves |
| 2189s | oh man these are all the questions of it |
| 2193s | I think we need to write a quest about |
| 2194s | this |
| 2196s | yes cancer too we need to focus more on |
| 2198s | the intricacies of how does shape |
| 2200s | shifting work and what are the rules |
| 2202s | I think we should just get rid of |
| 2203s | everything else this year and just focus |
| 2206s | on on that do everything to do with that |
| 2208s | I'm sure I'm sure the players would love |
| 2210s | that |
| 2213s | um all right uh the next question we |
| 2215s | have in is uh will the Easter egg |
| 2217s | connections between Karen Zurich and |
| 2219s | zaros pay off in desert treasure 2. I |
| 2223s | feel like that would be telling |
| 2225s | well the thing is this is quite an |
| 2226s | interesting question because |
| 2229s | I didn't think there were really Easter |
| 2232s | eggs directly connected to and I guess |
| 2234s | like some of the question I had earlier |
| 2235s | I said hopefully not disappoint people |
| 2238s | to temper expectations of uh |
| 2241s | I don't think we've been putting that |
| 2243s | many Easter eggs in about some big |
| 2246s | secret link between Zurich and zaros so |
| 2250s | if we if I did I would I didn't realize |
| 2253s | um |
| 2255s | so I will say is there are links between |
| 2258s | the Margaret storyline and current like |
| 2261s | we've already you know said as much with |
| 2264s | like there's a treasure 2 requiring uh |
| 2267s | the uh The Garden of death Quest um so |
| 2269s | there are definitely links there but |
| 2271s | we're not talking links to a point where |
| 2273s | the Korean storyline is actually |
| 2275s | secretly part of a major storyline and |
| 2277s | the two are going to combine into as you |
| 2279s | mentioned earlier the big epic end game |
| 2281s | style Quest where all the storylines |
| 2282s | combine like that's very much not the |
| 2285s | intention we want to just not strong |
| 2287s | about these surroundings in general with |
| 2289s | all of our storylines uh |
| 2291s | we want to make sure we stay true to all |
| 2294s | of them and like keep them all like |
| 2296s | their own storyline and not just try and |
| 2299s | like start combining storylines and |
| 2300s | stuff like that to try and make it feel |
| 2302s | more big or epic or anything like that |
| 2304s | there's a lot of crossover there's a lot |
| 2307s | of like little links here and there |
| 2308s | there are little links between the major |
| 2310s | and the current storyline but you will |
| 2312s | see a fair amount of in uh desert |
| 2314s | Treasures two some of those links are |
| 2316s | quite significant but this isn't some |
| 2319s | like secret uh oh it's all going to |
| 2322s | combine and it's going to be revealed |
| 2323s | that Zurich was behind everything uh so |
| 2325s | that's not the direction we're going to |
| 2327s | be taking it in |
| 2330s | I mean this might give you uh more |
| 2333s | context that the the last question we |
| 2335s | have related to Secrets enough one of |
| 2337s | the new NPCs in uh user Oasis at secret |
| 2341s | North mentions uh Sidious are these new |
| 2343s | areas desert treasure two related |
| 2348s | uh |
| 2349s | when they say new areas I assume they're |
| 2351s | referring to the user Oasis |
| 2353s | deciduous isn't new um but I guess I'll |
| 2356s | answer both uh so |
| 2359s | yeah here we did add a little uh Oasis |
| 2362s | uh alongside uh secrets for now if I |
| 2364s | wonder how that got there |
| 2366s | um |
| 2368s | some of it some of that area is |
| 2370s | definitely |
| 2371s | desert treasure two related that's not a |
| 2373s | spoiler if you watched the uh does it |
| 2376s | Treasure 2 trailer you'll already |
| 2378s | recognize the uh the uh Vault that is |
| 2381s | located in this new River desert as |
| 2383s | being from the trailer and if you |
| 2385s | haven't watched visitation 2 it did too |
| 2387s | the desert Treasure 2 trailer yet |
| 2391s | go and watch it because it is quite a |
| 2392s | good trailer and you might see a little |
| 2395s | uh a few little teasers here and there |
| 2396s | uh so yeah some of that stuff like that |
| 2399s | vault is absolutely setting up treasure |
| 2400s | two but also um |
| 2403s | there's also some other stuff in that |
| 2404s | area as well that isn't uh there's a |
| 2406s | treasury related |
| 2407s | some of that stuff is still marja |
| 2409s | related which is quite fun so some stuff |
| 2411s | there setting up other things we like |
| 2413s | we'd like to do with a major storyline |
| 2415s | in the future for Aunt as a treasure too |
| 2417s | and some of the stuff there is just not |
| 2419s | Margaret released at all it's just some |
| 2421s | nice uh it's a nice little bit of flavor |
| 2422s | to add some life to the area and |
| 2424s | potentially be explored one day but |
| 2426s | doesn't have to be in future quests and |
| 2428s | stuff uh so yeah I guess to answer |
| 2431s | something like that it's a mixture of |
| 2434s | yes maybe and no depending on which bits |
| 2436s | you're looking at |
| 2438s | all of the above essentially right |
| 2441s | that's exactly |
| 2443s | yeah we were actually surprised I |
| 2445s | remember Ed in the call when like the we |
| 2448s | always have a weekly update called while |
| 2449s | the game update goes live and I remember |
| 2452s | two hours in you've been like why has no |
| 2454s | one mentioned this new area that we've |
| 2457s | dropped I don't understand how they |
| 2459s | haven't seen it yet I was keeping an eye |
| 2461s | on the uh on like the wiki Discord |
| 2464s | having a little nosy like for watching |
| 2466s | them sort of like update everything and |
| 2468s | find all the little stuff they were so |
| 2470s | focused on secrets to the north and like |
| 2471s | everything like in the north but nobody |
| 2474s | had even opened the map and looked at |
| 2476s | what was happening in the South and then |
| 2477s | it's not quite a few years that someone |
| 2478s | just suddenly went hang on this wasn't |
| 2481s | here before |
| 2484s | yeah it took it took a lot it took you |
| 2486s | guys a lot longer I know you might have |
| 2488s | probably was interested in the quest and |
| 2490s | the boss which is fantastic but it was |
| 2492s | quite surprising I will say |
| 2495s | um all right oh we haven't even got long |
| 2496s | left this time has flown by so I feel |
| 2499s | like we should get a couple of General |
| 2501s | law questions in and then we'll show |
| 2502s | some uh lovely uh play Creative content |
| 2505s | to finish off uh so the first one we |
| 2508s | have Ed is when creating the Loft |
| 2509s | request what's the process like between |
| 2511s | you and other Developers |
| 2514s | uh it really depends from uh from quest |
| 2518s | to Quest To be honest uh |
| 2522s | I mean the actual process of creating |
| 2523s | the law itself varies from quest to |
| 2526s | quest uh depending on a lot of things |
| 2527s | like some like oh we're just talking |
| 2529s | about the secrets of the north where |
| 2530s | we'll like look to RuneScape see what |
| 2532s | they've done make sure we're being |
| 2533s | respectful of that but I'll also adding |
| 2535s | on its own elements obviously with |
| 2536s | something like adding a new Corinne |
| 2538s | Quest it's uh you know has no texture |
| 2540s | would say whatsoever so like we're like |
| 2542s | not looking at RuneScape at all |
| 2544s | particularly so the actual process of |
| 2546s | creating law itself could vary quite a |
| 2548s | bit |
| 2549s | and then |
| 2550s | I guess on like working with other |
| 2553s | developers uh that also depends sort of |
| 2555s | like the type of project it is like some |
| 2557s | quests that are Standalone uh |
| 2560s | in the sentence that sometimes that's |
| 2562s | very bad word to use I mean standing |
| 2563s | over sets like Standalone Quest but more |
| 2564s | as in Standalone pieces of content uh |
| 2567s | where uh |
| 2568s | we'll just release a quest and nothing |
| 2570s | else so for example like uh you know |
| 2572s | Garden Of Death was like but the release |
| 2573s | was just the quest uh |
| 2577s | most cases normally just myself working |
| 2580s | on them uh then once we uh are working |
| 2583s | on things like seeks North or desert |
| 2585s | treasure two and there's a like |
| 2586s | post-quest content big process contact |
| 2588s | bosses and new areas and stuff like that |
| 2590s | uh then there's only quite a few of us |
| 2592s | working on it and uh |
| 2594s | it's myself normally like taking a lead |
| 2596s | on the law and then uh with the uh |
| 2598s | working with other developers is often |
| 2600s | like a it's often a fun back and forth |
| 2602s | of uh like you might have somebody who's |
| 2604s | thinking more about sort of like the |
| 2606s | gameplay the mechanics of the boss fight |
| 2607s | and I'm there going uh |
| 2610s | oh it doesn't quite fit with a law |
| 2612s | they'll go but it's really cool and I'll |
| 2614s | go |
| 2615s | crap all right let me see if I can make |
| 2617s | this work the ultimate example of that |
| 2620s | it wasn't actually a quest was uh |
| 2622s | theater of blood so for the theater of |
| 2625s | blood |
| 2626s | uh we decided quite early on in |
| 2628s | development that we want to do it in |
| 2630s | Mauritania at a time we hadn't really |
| 2632s | done much content in Mauritania so it |
| 2634s | was in mauritan obviously it's going to |
| 2635s | be vampire themed and then soon after |
| 2637s | that the suggestion came up of uh |
| 2640s | like let's let's lean in heavily on uh |
| 2643s | like for like vampire Society aspect of |
| 2646s | the law of like uh |
| 2648s | like the wavy sort of like uh Lords and |
| 2650s | Ladies act let's make a theater this is |
| 2651s | a place of entertainment and then what |
| 2654s | sort of those things have been |
| 2655s | established it sort of fell to me to |
| 2656s | sort of like fill in all the detail like |
| 2659s | uh okay we want to do a vampire theater |
| 2661s | in Mauritania Ed what what is the actual |
| 2664s | law for that so I think with like lots |
| 2666s | of characters and like ideas and |
| 2668s | backstories for the bosses and then we |
| 2671s | were Midway through development and we |
| 2672s | were sort of under the impression that |
| 2673s | all this had been finalized a mod ghost |
| 2676s | he comes along he goes |
| 2679s | I've got an idea to make the final boss |
| 2681s | versic |
| 2683s | to give a more month |
| 2685s | at the time mod Kieran who was working |
| 2688s | on it he wanted to do an additional |
| 2689s | phase at the end we were we designed her |
| 2691s | as a two-phase boss it's like it's not |
| 2693s | enough she needs more she needs a third |
| 2694s | phase and mod ghost comes on and goes |
| 2696s | I've got this idea for a third phase you |
| 2698s | know we've got these spiders in other |
| 2700s | parts of a grade she turns into one |
| 2705s | and I'm just sitting there like |
| 2707s | the vampire turns into a spider |
| 2711s | but what that's not what that's not what |
| 2714s | we wrote |
| 2716s | and so I had to go away this is like |
| 2718s | mid-developed I went away and uh |
| 2721s | I basically rewrote verzic story to the |
| 2725s | one that is presented in uh the night of |
| 2728s | a theater Quest so all of that only |
| 2731s | really came about because because |
| 2733s | someone came along and went |
| 2735s | spider that'd be cool |
| 2738s | and I hope it doesn't sound like I'm |
| 2739s | moaning about that because at the time |
| 2741s | it's probably very much like uh it was |
| 2743s | very much like oh God what am I gonna do |
| 2745s | but |
| 2746s | stuff like that is actually really one |
| 2749s | of the really good parts about game |
| 2751s | development that it really forces you to |
| 2754s | uh sometimes it really does force you to |
| 2757s | sometimes go back to the drawing board |
| 2759s | and like come up with ideas or even |
| 2761s | cooler than before like when when |
| 2763s | someone like mod ghost comes on and goes |
| 2765s | I want to turn it into a spider |
| 2768s | it was a really good opportunity to |
| 2769s | actually go back and go |
| 2771s | okay how can we make this work and the |
| 2773s | end result was something that was |
| 2774s | probably far faster period than the |
| 2777s | original story which was just she's just |
| 2779s | a boring old vampire he gave us the |
| 2781s | opportunity to sing really fun and |
| 2782s | creative |
| 2785s | yeah it's a very very cool uh like it's |
| 2788s | just a cool thing when I especially when |
| 2790s | we were sorting out a night at the |
| 2791s | theater and you were presenting that I |
| 2792s | was like that is cool when you explore a |
| 2795s | bit more of why that is it's amazing and |
| 2797s | that was another funny thing about it as |
| 2799s | well it's like uh it was all written |
| 2802s | back for theater of blood but we didn't |
| 2803s | really properly explore until three |
| 2805s | years later with night at the theater so |
| 2807s | it was just sat there and there's a lot |
| 2808s | of things like that where we always like |
| 2811s | to establish like backstory of |
| 2812s | characters even if it's not going to be |
| 2814s | using the piece of content we're making |
| 2816s | them for |
| 2817s | because |
| 2818s | chances are there'll be some update in |
| 2820s | the future that requires us to explore |
| 2822s | those characters more deeply and it |
| 2823s | ensures that things always stay really |
| 2825s | nice and consistent and it's always |
| 2827s | really fun going back to something that |
| 2828s | was made three years earlier like |
| 2829s | finally properly revealing it to people |
| 2837s | it's one of the things especially with |
| 2839s | the uh you know especially the quests |
| 2841s | that were storylines were revisit and |
| 2843s | it's fantastic we can go back and I |
| 2845s | suppose that they're actually got a lot |
| 2847s | more in common considering the first |
| 2849s | game update I was here for which was in |
| 2852s | 2020 |
| 2853s | I believe but I found out spiders |
| 2856s | actually spawn vampires in Mauritania |
| 2861s | maybe they do have more in common than |
| 2863s | uh |
| 2865s | than we thought |
| 2867s | oh dear that was a yeah |
| 2870s | there's some bugs that are bad bugs that |
| 2873s | was a good one |
| 2874s | that was yeah for my first my first ever |
| 2877s | game update to have like a big bug |
| 2879s | happen and that was it we was all |
| 2881s | cracking up in the in the chat which was |
| 2883s | good |
| 2884s | um all right uh oh we've only got [ __ ] I |
| 2887s | suppose like technically |
| 2889s | five-ish minutes before we uh let's wrap |
| 2892s | up let's try and do the next you want to |
| 2894s | pick a question you just want to do next |
| 2896s | to it all right let's let's do this |
| 2897s | we'll do the next two because I did I |
| 2899s | did I did semi-promise earlier we talked |
| 2901s | a bit more about back porting so I feel |
| 2902s | it's only right we do uh the one after |
| 2903s | this one as well uh so we'll do these |
| 2906s | things and see where that takes us all |
| 2908s | right |
| 2908s | yes all right let's go we'll speed run |
| 2910s | this then all right the first of the two |
| 2913s | is is this uh is the world of old school |
| 2916s | actually going to step forward and |
| 2918s | progress storylines are progressing but |
| 2921s | they don't seem to matter in the grand |
| 2922s | scheme of things other than end game |
| 2924s | rewards quests seem to have no |
| 2926s | implications on the world as if they're |
| 2928s | all their own self-contained bubble |
| 2931s | I'm I'm insulted |
| 2933s | [Laughter] |
| 2938s | so |
| 2940s | I guess I guess also it depends what you |
| 2943s | mean which means what your definition of |
| 2945s | progression is so |
| 2948s | probably a little bit biased as may you |
| 2950s | may have gathered there by my response |
| 2952s | to that question but |
| 2953s | I do feel that our story lines there is |
| 2956s | Meaningful progression there and there |
| 2957s | is stuff that is impacting the world |
| 2958s | some of that is very small like you know |
| 2960s | changes to like |
| 2962s | like certain characters and stuff like |
| 2964s | that but some of that is you know |
| 2966s | significantly bigger like you complete |
| 2968s | song of The Elves and a whole new city |
| 2970s | has appeared and another city that was |
| 2974s | once full of mourners that they've now |
| 2975s | all gone and they're now starting to |
| 2976s | rebuild again like you know very those |
| 2979s | that feels to me like stuff that is |
| 2981s | impacting the game World in a very |
| 2982s | meaningful way |
| 2984s | um so if that is for the definition of |
| 2987s | progression I've politely disagree with |
| 2990s | the person asking this question that uh |
| 2993s | they're sort of self-containable they I |
| 2995s | do think they are having a meaningful |
| 2996s | impact on the wide world in that sense |
| 2998s | but if by progression we're sort of |
| 3000s | referring more to the fact that |
| 3004s | I guess like old school like this song |
| 3006s | is set in the same year and think more |
| 3008s | about how like RuneScape progressed and |
| 3010s | that it progressed to a new age and New |
| 3012s | Years where the gods came back and that |
| 3013s | sort of thing then |
| 3016s | no that's not that's not what we want to |
| 3019s | do uh part of old school is that it is |
| 3022s | old school we do add new content to old |
| 3025s | school we do it weekly but we add |
| 3028s | content in a way that is if it's done |
| 3032s | well the idea is that content feels like |
| 3034s | this content but would have but could |
| 3035s | have been present in in old school |
| 3037s | RuneScape as it was back then but while |
| 3039s | it's new it still feels old school and |
| 3040s | we take this sort of the same attitude |
| 3041s | to narrative that |
| 3044s | old school RuneScape is so important the |
| 3045s | world always feel familiar always feel |
| 3047s | like home that is for like foundation |
| 3049s | for old school is built on |
| 3051s | so progressing the storyline in a way |
| 3053s | that like it would move to a new age but |
| 3054s | Gods would come back but you know |
| 3056s | lumbridge blows up and that sort of |
| 3058s | thing like I'm not saying those are bad |
| 3061s | things to do like it's great that |
| 3064s | RuneScape did for him and the fact that |
| 3066s | we're really gonna do I think is |
| 3067s | actually really beneficial for both |
| 3069s | games because it really helps her like |
| 3070s | it means if you want that kind of thing |
| 3072s | you've got a RuneScape story and if you |
| 3074s | want them or also you've got the old |
| 3075s | school story we don't need to do it as |
| 3077s | well uh we can just you know stay in the |
| 3080s | fifth age and keep telling those stories |
| 3082s | about a world where the gods aren't |
| 3083s | present and like uh very much a focus on |
| 3086s | what what do the followers of the gods |
| 3088s | do when they don't have a God to |
| 3089s | actually tell them what to do if it's |
| 3091s | all about their own interpretations and |
| 3092s | stuff it's all it's all like that side |
| 3094s | of uh |
| 3096s | that sort of thing rather than uh like |
| 3098s | the direction RuneScape went in so if |
| 3101s | that's the definition of progress then |
| 3103s | then no that's not something we will |
| 3105s | ever do in Old School |
| 3108s | I think it's good that we distinguish |
| 3110s | ourselves to be honest like we're we're |
| 3112s | 10 years old this year Believe It or Not |
| 3115s | old school is will be 10. so like I feel |
| 3118s | like if we weren't to distinguish |
| 3120s | ourselves by now maybe we haven't done |
| 3123s | the right thing but I feel like you know |
| 3125s | we've done we have |
| 3127s | um all right so uh final question uh I'd |
| 3130s | like to ask about Quest back porting |
| 3132s | which was surveyed to high successes how |
| 3134s | is it planned to incorporate the quest |
| 3136s | into Old School having noted that the |
| 3137s | old school devs are trying to |
| 3139s | incorporate their own spin on the story |
| 3142s | yeah so |
| 3145s | we talked about this a bit early and I |
| 3146s | said we'd hopefully talk about more at |
| 3148s | the end we managed to fit it in so yeah |
| 3150s | to reiterate first of all what was said |
| 3151s | earlier |
| 3152s | um |
| 3154s | yeah the survey was a like show really |
| 3157s | positive results people very interested |
| 3158s | in the idea of back porting quests with |
| 3160s | some uh caveats uh for sort of caveats |
| 3163s | being uh thank the ones that we uh sort |
| 3165s | of already on board with uh that |
| 3168s | General consensus people didn't want to |
| 3172s | to backport quests from after 2011 uh |
| 3176s | because that's when the storyline |
| 3177s | started to move towards the gods |
| 3178s | returning we sort of like feeds into |
| 3179s | answer a previous question uh that's not |
| 3181s | the direction you want to take old |
| 3182s | school in so any back ports would be |
| 3184s | limited up to quests released uh prior |
| 3187s | to uh |
| 3189s | so like 20 2011 and earlier |
| 3193s | um and that we only backpot |
| 3197s | the good ones this sort of basically |
| 3198s | what the survey was saying don't |
| 3200s | backpack bad ones it's not like yes no |
| 3202s | we won't we won't back for bad ones and |
| 3205s | the quests that we asked about in that |
| 3206s | survey were sort of like specifically |
| 3208s | chosen based on that that they were sort |
| 3209s | of like what we felt were good quests |
| 3212s | that felt old school that didn't |
| 3215s | progress a story in a way that would you |
| 3217s | know move towards like God's returning |
| 3219s | or that sort of thing |
| 3221s | um and that didn't uh I don't think this |
| 3223s | is important bit as well that sort of |
| 3224s | like feeds into this question it's just |
| 3226s | here but didn't interfere or construct |
| 3228s | with our own narrative plans uh so again |
| 3231s | retro mentioned earlier that's why we |
| 3233s | asked about while Gothic sleeps we feel |
| 3235s | we can do work or fixed sleeps with a |
| 3237s | few minor changes and it would fit |
| 3238s | really nicely with our own plans for |
| 3240s | marjorat we didn't ask about template |
| 3242s | senderston we didn't ask about tale of a |
| 3244s | musbar we didn't ask out ritual of a |
| 3245s | major because none of those free would |
| 3247s | fit with what we are doing ourselves |
| 3249s | well of course as soon as secrets to the |
| 3251s | north some small elements of his quests |
| 3253s | may still appear in other different ways |
| 3256s | um |
| 3256s | so yeah when it comes to blackporting |
| 3259s | we'd like to do it in a way that it |
| 3261s | complements and adds to the quests that |
| 3264s | we're currently working on rather than |
| 3266s | just uh let's backbot all the quests and |
| 3268s | let's not ever make any new old-school |
| 3269s | quests uh so that's sort of the the aim |
| 3272s | with it uh that was something back when |
| 3274s | we asked about it and obviously it was a |
| 3275s | very early days it was uh last year when |
| 3277s | we sent that survey around and uh we did |
| 3280s | mention I think of the News Post at the |
| 3282s | time that |
| 3283s | that was sort of like pretty much day |
| 3284s | one it's a bit different to anything |
| 3286s | we've done before I normally wait a bit |
| 3287s | until later in the process but |
| 3289s | what we're swimming like that we feel |
| 3291s | like there's no point even starting to |
| 3293s | explore this if people aren't interested |
| 3295s | so we asked those questions very early |
| 3296s | on it we've fully owned the expectation |
| 3298s | but it's not something to be explored in |
| 3299s | 2022 |
| 3301s | we're not in 2022 anymore so I'm hoping |
| 3304s | that uh soon we can start talking about |
| 3306s | this again a bit more and hopefully have |
| 3307s | some uh some more concrete stuff to |
| 3310s | share nothing today uh |
| 3312s | as well we are into 2023 it's still |
| 3314s | January so we'll take a little bit of |
| 3316s | time but yeah it's already something |
| 3318s | that we've had a few conversations about |
| 3319s | uh internally about what the next steps |
| 3322s | are now that we are into 2023 I'm sort |
| 3324s | of planning some of that long-term stuff |
| 3325s | and hopefully we'll be able to share |
| 3327s | more soon |
| 3329s | awesome stuff all right well thank you |
| 3332s | very much Ed uh man I always love these |
| 3334s | streams it's just super cozy Vibes and |
| 3336s | lore which is an amazing combo |
| 3339s | um all right we will uh just before we |
| 3342s | wrap up we'll just show some |
| 3344s | ugc or some play correct content uh so |
| 3346s | if we can head over to there on spear |
| 3350s | all right the first one uh is a birthday |
| 3353s | cake from Cook's assistant IRL from Mr |
| 3356s | Colin Sawyer which I mean I'm surprised |
| 3359s | if he isn't in chat so |
| 3361s | happy birthday Colin and that was |
| 3366s | nice can you |
| 3369s | you cannot especially that looks well |
| 3371s | nice I'm not gonna lie I'm very jealous |
| 3373s | there's any left it probably isn't can |
| 3375s | we have some sent to the office |
| 3377s | yes please or another one you know I'm |
| 3379s | not gonna I'm not gonna complain about |
| 3381s | more cake so |
| 3384s | um all right the next one we have is uh |
| 3386s | called frog toes uh this is a escaper |
| 3389s | tattoo artist tattoo designs with old |
| 3391s | school and frogs combined which look |
| 3393s | great |
| 3397s | look at that they all look amazing I |
| 3400s | think I'd have |
| 3402s | probably number six he was like a he |
| 3406s | looks like a fine fellow |
| 3411s | maybe this is who the Assassin is Maybe |
| 3415s | it's a frog in Disguise |
| 3417s | and now we have one of the frogs yet |
| 3420s | being tattooed onto someone so uh good |
| 3423s | job I mean to go from I suppose concept |
| 3426s | to on someone's skin that quickly is |
| 3429s | quite impressive so |
| 3431s | nice nice |
| 3435s | um all right what have we got next we've |
| 3436s | got three more uh the next one we have a |
| 3438s | play created uh an old school RuneScape |
| 3440s | version of the board game wrist based on |
| 3442s | the Lord of the Rings Edition |
| 3444s | that is really cool |
| 3449s | that is really cool have they got the |
| 3451s | map down to a t as well oh here we go |
| 3455s | I actually haven't seen any of these |
| 3457s | before we went into Stream So This is |
| 3460s | this is fantastic |
| 3463s | all right they might have to come and |
| 3465s | visit the office so we can get a game of |
| 3467s | old school risks down that'd be great |
| 3470s | not if my Dash works over time that's |
| 3472s | very rude no yeah not if much works over |
| 3476s | time definitely not |
| 3478s | uh okay the next one uh oh that was |
| 3481s | there was a double the uh final one is |
| 3484s | old school RuneScape rugs with various |
| 3486s | capes so we've got the quest Point Cape |
| 3488s | uh Slayer magic herb law uh and |
| 3492s | seems to be more that I'm missing on |
| 3494s | here no no there's just a double up |
| 3497s | question |
| 3498s | but they all look amazing that's what |
| 3500s | we're trying to say they look amazing |
| 3504s | I'd have one what one would you have Ed |
| 3508s | well can we have it might be uh some uh |
| 3512s | potential development on a new skill at |
| 3514s | some point soon uh maybe maybe we have |
| 3516s | one for that |
| 3518s | oh maybe maybe I'd like to see what that |
| 3521s | looks like oh okay okay I like I like |
| 3524s | where you went there I like where you |
| 3525s | went there |
| 3527s | um all right that is it for the player |
| 3529s | created content so uh thank you everyone |
| 3531s | and keep making cool RuneScape stuff |
| 3533s | because we always love to see it and we |
| 3535s | always love to share it |
| 3537s | um so I'm just going to quickly go |
| 3538s | through the announcements before we wrap |
| 3539s | up and say goodbye uh because I know |
| 3541s | monster has to get going and so do we uh |
| 3543s | so exclamation mark game update this |
| 3545s | week's update saw some tweaks to Secrets |
| 3547s | of the north alongside some new quests |
| 3549s | to speedrunning uh so see how fast you |
| 3552s | can clear below Ice Mountain and Temple |
| 3554s | of the eye and in beta there's x marks |
| 3557s | the spot and the kingdom divided uh so |
| 3559s | check out all that and some weirdness in |
| 3562s | uh this week's News Post uh exclamation |
| 3564s | mark o s n o s o t n uh the marjorat |
| 3569s | storyline continues unravel the secrets |
| 3571s | of the north and take on another worldly |
| 3573s | boss in this brand new Master Quest |
| 3575s | check out all that under that command |
| 3577s | exclamation whole uh exclamation mark |
| 3579s | poll 78 the first of 2023's quality of |
| 3583s | life polls is here with poll 78. check |
| 3585s | out the news post to see what we have in |
| 3587s | store as well as a survey to let us know |
| 3588s | what changes you'd like for us to |
| 3590s | prioritize which will be updated just |
| 3593s | after this stream so give me five |
| 3595s | minutes and that will all be sorted uh |
| 3597s | with some feedback from you guys and |
| 3599s | finally exclamation mark account with |
| 3601s | the recent blog we uh uploaded today |
| 3604s | we've got an update on jagex accounts |
| 3606s | included info on the first of the closed |
| 3609s | betas coming soon so you can learn about |
| 3611s | our plans for jagex accounts in that |
| 3613s | News Post including a very handy FAQ so |
| 3617s | check that out before sending your |
| 3618s | questions over with all that I think |
| 3621s | it's a wrap uh Ed any final words |
| 3627s | is this where you were hoping I would uh |
| 3629s | spoil some big piece of law |
| 3632s | um maybe the floor is yours |
| 3635s | I don't think so just that um to |
| 3638s | reiterate I think we'll mention of the |
| 3639s | starch we are now working on desert |
| 3641s | treasure two and uh really excited to uh |
| 3643s | over coming months uh start sharing more |
| 3646s | about that |
| 3647s | excellent stuff all right thank you very |
| 3650s | much Ed again I always enjoy these uh |
| 3652s | cozy shrooms with you so hopefully we |
| 3654s | can do some more in the future I'm sure |
| 3657s | we'll find a good excuse |
| 3659s | yes of course always always |
| 3661s | uh with that being said yeah thank you |
| 3663s | to uh mods Ed uh mod spear behind the |
| 3666s | scenes all the mods that set things up |
| 3668s | whether you're in just watching you're |
| 3670s | moderating the chat all the script set |
| 3672s | up everything uh to do the stream uh |
| 3675s | I've been your host matani and thank you |
| 3677s | all for watching and we will see you |
| 3679s | next time |
| 3681s | bye |
| 3683s | [Music] |