[2019] Could we have some more player discussion about the Siren's Tome?

Originally posted by thisfornsfwww

It’s definitely not fine as it is. The magic damage buff currently provided by it will likely replace arcane in almost all scenarios. Also, stacked with with other damage boosting items, and the new staffs proposed, it will be very game changing for magic, something I believe doesn’t need buffed. If it does need buffed, not to this extent.

Originally posted by thisfornsfwww

Appreciate the response. It’s not specially about arcane, although it does have no mage damage %, and the proposed 10% from the tome blows it out of the water. It would further increase the barrage max from 42, to 46 in pvp. Keep in mind the max on release was 30. Overall, the staffs and tome currently as they are, are overpowered. I’m sorry I don’t agree with the proposed update, but magic should not be hitting 80’s. I guess the poll will speak for itself, and I do agree the boss needs some viable rewards, just don’t feel massively buffing magic damage and adding a ko weapon that maxes over 80 is the way to go. The overall response from pkers so far is not very good. Hard to please crowd I know, but I’d trust their judgement.

Originally posted by DelonWright

Idc about my bank value, I care about making Corp drops useless. I’ll be able to afford any of the new gear I want, but I’d rather not see a mage off hand with as high accuracy as arcane PLUS a % damage boost

Originally posted by DelonWright

I did see that. The negative defensive bonuses mean very little, especially in scenarios like COX and TOB where skill is more important than defence. I also believe that the damage % of 4% is still ultimately destroying the arcane spirit shields usefulness.

The one BIS item from Corp for many scenarios is the arcane. The ely is a niche item, used for tanking and infernal mainly. The spectral is only used at Cerberus. Both of them have passive effects.

I struggle to think of any scenario in which the arcane would be better than the sirens tome under these proposed changes. I think for long zulrah trips possibly, but even then the zulrah meta is tbow now, and those who can’t afford tbow likely won’t be able to afford the sirens tome upgrade.

With all of what I’ve just mentioned I really think the only item from Corp that is used in a variety of situations as a BIS will be destroyed. As Corp is one of the most nostalgic bosses, and should have at least one item serving a purpose across the game, I’ll be voting no.