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| 1s | foreign |
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| 3s | hello everybody and welcome to this |
| 7s | week's very cool very special very POG |
| 11s | live stream |
| 12s | um this stream is dedicated to Old |
| 14s | School runescape's potential first new |
| 16s | skill sailing so as you all know we have |
| 19s | moved forward with sailing as our first |
| 22s | new skill to be pulled hopefully by Late |
| 24s | July and we're now getting into this |
| 26s | really cool and fun process called |
| 29s | refinement which is where we talk about |
| 31s | the nitty-gritty elements of the skills |
| 34s | sailing and we shape the design based on |
| 37s | your feedback and as an unexpected kind |
| 41s | of surprise we now have a sailing |
| 43s | navigation preview to share with you |
| 45s | today and we're joined by mod Kieran mod |
| 49s | Husky and modnin and modernin is from |
| 52s | our engine team which is super cool |
| 53s | hello guys how are you guys |
| 57s | fantastic |
| 59s | excited |
| 61s | awesome awesome |
| 63s | um did any of you watch Eurovision |
| 66s | oh you bet I did I was I went to one of |
| 69s | the shows last week not the final |
| 71s | but and then watched it we had a |
| 73s | Eurovision pie on Saturday I mean all my |
| 76s | friends we all brought a |
| 77s | and we picked we ruled countries and |
| 79s | then had to bring food relating to that |
| 81s | country uh which was oh |
| 85s | yeah I got Germany so I brought Curry |
| 87s | first and it was delicious |
| 90s | awesome um husky |
| 94s | husk necessarily a fan of Eurovision I'm |
| 96s | sure many members of chat I agree with |
| 98s | you |
| 99s | sounds like XP waste |
| 103s | so true um let us know in chat by the |
| 106s | way if you did tune into Eurovision uh |
| 108s | what you thought about it I'm very very |
| 110s | curious |
| 111s | um I was team Finland like I was like |
| 115s | all the way anyway |
| 117s | um |
| 119s | absolutely uh you're not here to listen |
| 121s | to Eurovision uh that fun was for last |
| 125s | weekend so let's get on with some |
| 126s | announcements before we go into a |
| 129s | sailing prototype demo for you |
| 131s | exclamation mark game update last week's |
| 133s | update saw the release of some much |
| 134s | anticipated updates from mobile and |
| 136s | steam offering you ground item |
| 139s | indicators and loop trackers so that's |
| 142s | super super a big deal for mobile and |
| 145s | you can read all about it in last week's |
| 147s | game update news posts exclamation mark |
| 149s | Discord if you want to join the new |
| 151s | skilled Discord more on that later |
| 152s | exclamation mark account so we've |
| 155s | actually released a jagex account survey |
| 157s | to get your feedback whether or not |
| 159s | you've given jagex accounts a try please |
| 161s | let us know your thoughts and |
| 163s | exclamation mark d t b h that's the new |
| 167s | blog that we published about our |
| 169s | progress on desert Treasure 2 and Bounty |
| 171s | Hunter including a really cool survey |
| 174s | more of your favorite |
| 176s | um all right so we have a sneak peek and |
| 177s | then we'll get into the demo shortly |
| 180s | um so next week or sorry this week you |
| 182s | can expect drumroll please |
| 187s | Thai Farm updates |
| 190s | we're super excited to um release these |
| 194s | from wholesome to nine |
| 196s | um very very soon it'll literally be in |
| 198s | this week's game update who is booing in |
| 200s | the chat Matt do not boo this this is a |
| 202s | very anticipated update okay I want to |
| 206s | see some pogs in chat for this um you're |
| 208s | gonna get some really really cool call |
| 210s | for Thai farm and most importantly the J |
| 214s | mods can now sleep peacefully knowing |
| 216s | that you guys will not be spamming us |
| 217s | with Thai farm when messages uh so yeah |
| 222s | look forward to that this week |
| 225s | it's good it's genuinely a meaningful |
| 227s | update that changes the uh overall now I |
| 230s | think getting wines of zamarack through |
| 231s | Skilling and not telegramming is a |
| 233s | viable method so exciting |
| 237s | all right enough with that guys we are |
| 240s | here for sailing we are here to create |
| 242s | the hype we are here to talk about |
| 244s | navigational mechanics so |
| 246s | um we've been waiting to talk to you |
| 248s | about this um the engine team has been |
| 250s | working on some very very cool stuff mod |
| 252s | nin is here on behalf of the whole of |
| 254s | the engine team and let's roll the tape |
| 256s | and get into some questions |
| 259s | foreign |
| 262s | joined by mod Elena to give you a first |
| 265s | look at our early exploration into |
| 267s | sailing Tech |
| 269s | as you hopefully know by now the old |
| 272s | school team is working on a brand new |
| 274s | skill and shaping it with the community |
| 277s | during refinement |
| 279s | sailing was taken forward as the first |
| 282s | skill we'd like to refine further so our |
| 285s | first step will be nailing down the |
| 288s | navigational mechanics of sailing |
| 291s | before we get started Please be aware |
| 293s | that this demo is purely a technical |
| 295s | showcase there are no gameplay mechanics |
| 298s | here and the art is far from final but |
| 300s | this video is intended to show you more |
| 302s | about the tech and challenge some of the |
| 304s | misconceptions players might have around |
| 306s | what is technically possible for us to |
| 309s | do so let's jump into it |
| 312s | boats are a familiar Concept in old |
| 315s | school they're all over the place once |
| 318s | you start looking from Tiny row boats to |
| 320s | freminic longboats to huge Merchant |
| 323s | vessels that travel continents |
| 326s | you've seen them you've boarded them |
| 329s | you've smuggled rum on them so |
| 332s | captaining them shouldn't feel out of |
| 334s | place as a skill you could master |
| 336s | sailing in Old School needs to feel well |
| 339s | integrated intuitive and familiar and |
| 343s | that's where our technical exploration |
| 345s | started |
| 347s | we already have boats we just need to |
| 349s | make them move |
| 351s | here you can see a small boat with a |
| 354s | body and a sail and a player stood |
| 356s | inside |
| 357s | that player is able to do regular |
| 359s | interactions while on the boat and see |
| 361s | other players doing activities on the |
| 363s | dock this player is also in control of |
| 365s | the boat and can use point-and-click |
| 367s | movement to Traverse the waters |
| 369s | please note this movement and control |
| 371s | scheme are not final but we're using it |
| 373s | here to demonstrate how a player can be |
| 376s | part of a moving entity |
| 378s | that boat's a little cramped though |
| 381s | let's give our guy a bigger vessel |
| 384s | this one's got quite a bit more room |
| 386s | maybe to carry a treasure chest or some |
| 390s | fishing supplies or enough space to |
| 393s | bring your pants |
| 394s | maybe this boat is a bit more durable or |
| 398s | can carry more cargo |
| 400s | the specifics of what utilities boats |
| 403s | will have is not decided yet but they |
| 406s | can contain interactable objects like |
| 409s | anywhere else in the game |
| 411s | we also think sailing could make for a |
| 413s | fun group activity we want to let you |
| 416s | invite your friends aboard so you can |
| 417s | sail the high seas together |
| 419s | on even larger ships you might need a |
| 421s | whole crew working together to man the |
| 424s | Cannons Hoist the sails keep look out |
| 426s | and steer safely through the waves we're |
| 429s | able to have groups of players aboard |
| 430s | boats which could open up lots of |
| 433s | gameplay opportunities for multiplayer |
| 434s | sailing cutting |
| 437s | what did you guys think we'd love to |
| 440s | hear your feedback in the comments below |
| 442s | or if you're watching this live tell us |
| 445s | in the chat |
| 446s | we'd once again like to say that this |
| 449s | video footage is purely a technical demo |
| 452s | the core gameplay details art rewards |
| 456s | basically everything that makes a skill |
| 458s | a skill is still to come |
| 461s | knowing how navigation works at its core |
| 464s | is really important as it feeds into all |
| 467s | the other aspects of the skill |
| 470s | we know how important it is to ensure |
| 472s | that navigation feels fun engaging and |
| 476s | intuitive across all devices so now that |
| 479s | you're able to visualize yourself on a |
| 482s | ship with your homies what kinds of |
| 484s | feedback do you want to send our way |
| 487s | foreign |
| 492s | that was super super cool |
| 495s | um what did you guys think |
| 498s | Park it's an absolute W I didn't want to |
| 500s | say another lies |
| 505s | it's worth emphasizing how early this is |
| 507s | um first thing like this is uh you know |
| 510s | a handful of days of effort I've got |
| 512s | into getting us to this stage but my God |
| 514s | there's this like for us I think we feel |
| 517s | like this is now |
| 519s | the possibilities are endless what do we |
| 522s | want to do with this and so on |
| 524s | essentially uh but gosh it's it's like |
| 527s | it is ridiculous and exciting to see |
| 530s | boats big boats moving with players on |
| 533s | them seeing other players on the shore |
| 534s | on the real map and everything |
| 537s | for us that was that was a huge |
| 539s | challenge to get there |
| 541s | to get that going |
| 543s | um and I think it's yeah we're buzzing |
| 547s | yeah yeah it's |
| 549s | it's um I'm happy to see like positivity |
| 551s | in the chat it's like important |
| 554s | for it to feel old school and I think |
| 557s | that demo kind of captures it like you |
| 559s | see that boat that looks like one of the |
| 561s | boats from Port sarim actually moving |
| 563s | through the water that's really cool |
| 566s | um The Players moving around on it like |
| 569s | it looks and feels like old school |
| 571s | it feels it looks like it plays like old |
| 573s | school so yeah it doesn't |
| 578s | it was really exciting when we saw that |
| 580s | for the first time like during the game |
| 581s | Jam when we're just like because back |
| 583s | when we were thinking about all these |
| 585s | skill pictures and we're talking with |
| 586s | Elena and I'm like actually we don't |
| 588s | know what's our Perfect World Vision and |
| 590s | I'm like oh yeah I'd love to be able to |
| 591s | see what's happening on the boat and |
| 594s | move around on the boat and control the |
| 595s | boat we were like how is this gonna work |
| 597s | are we gonna need like a |
| 598s | picture-in-picture kind of thing do we |
| 599s | need to talk about like we were talking |
| 601s | about wasd and or what if you we just |
| 603s | turned the player into the boat is that |
| 605s | simple and to me this was like the |
| 607s | perfect outcome this would be it working |
| 610s | as if like like if I could have had it |
| 613s | worked anyway this is how it would have |
| 615s | been and we were just like ha we don't |
| 617s | know if the text possible can we do it |
| 618s | and then oh engine team delivered during |
| 621s | game jam it looks really good from a |
| 624s | from a tech perspective and that's where |
| 626s | I'm most excited I think |
| 627s | all the disclaimers on the video about |
| 629s | Arts gameplay everything is just this is |
| 632s | just about the idea that players can be |
| 634s | on a boat doing stuff while the boat is |
| 637s | moving and that is actually really |
| 639s | exciting to me |
| 640s | yeah for sure I'm seeing some comments |
| 642s | in the chat about the the art style and |
| 644s | things like that like we have not |
| 645s | dedicated |
| 647s | um a significant amount of art resource |
| 648s | into this demo |
| 650s | um this was literally purely to show you |
| 652s | that it was technically possible because |
| 654s | there are a lot of misconceptions about |
| 655s | the skill and whether this would be |
| 657s | technically achievable and now that we |
| 659s | know that you can not only have you know |
| 662s | a boat in the open world moving it |
| 664s | around yourself you can also have people |
| 666s | on your boat which we'll talk about in a |
| 668s | bit more detail in the question so this |
| 671s | from a tech point of view I think is is |
| 672s | massive it really helps you to visualize |
| 674s | the skill and now hopefully players will |
| 676s | be able to give us a lot more feedback |
| 679s | um targeted feedback to be like can you |
| 681s | change this can this be fixed to work |
| 684s | this way Etc whereas before it was |
| 686s | really really difficult for people to |
| 688s | imagine themselves on a boat because the |
| 691s | kinds of stuff that you've done in game |
| 692s | already |
| 694s | um don't really involve you necessarily |
| 696s | being on a boat driving it yourself |
| 698s | navigating Etc so we are planning |
| 700s | publish a Blog uh sometime this week and |
| 704s | this q a is going to be focused on |
| 705s | asking some immediate questions so let's |
| 708s | begin uh mod nin can you talk us about |
| 711s | what the engine changes are and explain |
| 713s | the new tech |
| 715s | yeah so I guess first |
| 718s | let's let's like Define like what the |
| 721s | difference is between engine and content |
| 724s | um because people are always like ah |
| 726s | that needs engine work and we can't get |
| 727s | engine work we can't get engine work |
| 729s | um |
| 730s | so the the engine is basically a set of |
| 733s | like gameplay agnostic systems |
| 737s | um the game content that then gets built |
| 739s | on so |
| 740s | you know you need a model drawn to the |
| 743s | screen the engine will draw that model |
| 744s | to the screen doesn't care what it is or |
| 746s | the game needs some scripts to run the |
| 748s | engine doesn't care what those scripts |
| 749s | are but they'll make them run |
| 751s | um so anytime anytime someone's like oh |
| 753s | that needs engine work it basically what |
| 755s | it means is we need to go and like |
| 756s | change one of those systems or anything |
| 758s | in this case like add a new system |
| 761s | um |
| 762s | so yeah and and what this is is uh a way |
| 767s | for us to draw an area of the map that |
| 771s | exists like somewhere else in a place |
| 772s | that we've dubbed the boat dimension |
| 775s | um somewhere else in the game world so |
| 777s | we're basically like superimposing a map |
| 779s | that exists like off in the void over |
| 783s | where a boat should be in the real world |
| 786s | and that gives you this um this effect |
| 789s | where it looks like there's a bow in the |
| 791s | water |
| 792s | um |
| 792s | and |
| 795s | that's I think as a husky was saying |
| 798s | it's like that's kind of how you want |
| 799s | sailing to look you want sailing to look |
| 801s | like the boats that already exist except |
| 803s | they're moving and you can run your |
| 805s | little your player around on them |
| 807s | um |
| 808s | what what it would be like quite |
| 810s | disappointing is if we just like turned |
| 812s | your player model into a boat |
| 815s | um that would probably feel a bit Naf so |
| 818s | yeah going like the extra step getting |
| 820s | the system in place from the engine side |
| 822s | to be able to draw a full boat moving |
| 824s | across the ocean |
| 826s | um was |
| 828s | uh where we wanted to start exploring |
| 831s | very very cool I love the explanation of |
| 833s | a boat Dimension |
| 836s | um could you just kind of highlight what |
| 838s | consequence of this could have for the |
| 840s | rest of the game so does this Tech has |
| 841s | to have to be specific to sailing or |
| 845s | could you see it applying elsewhere in |
| 847s | the game potentially |
| 849s | uh yes I mean like I said the engine is |
| 852s | generally gameplay agnostic systems and |
| 855s | this is no exception this is just draw |
| 857s | an area |
| 858s | somewhere else |
| 860s | um some of the ideas we've had floating |
| 862s | around is you could have like a boss |
| 864s | fight that's on the back of a dragon |
| 866s | like you're standing on the back of a |
| 867s | dragon fighting something as that flies |
| 869s | around the entire game map |
| 872s | so you're like flying over Catherine |
| 874s | while you're on top of a dragon doing |
| 876s | some boss fight that could be super cool |
| 879s | um so yeah there's there's probably |
| 881s | quite a lot of things that we could do |
| 882s | with this um we could have proper like |
| 883s | moving scenery and like cool kind of |
| 885s | visual effects in in boss fights uh yeah |
| 888s | also |
| 890s | very very very cool |
| 892s | um and can I just clarify as well this |
| 895s | is still open world gaming so all of the |
| 898s | stuff to do with the boat Dimension |
| 899s | everything like that you are still |
| 901s | looking to make sailing an open world |
| 903s | skill |
| 905s | uh yeah do you want to take this one |
| 907s | husky |
| 908s | uh yeah absolutely I mean this is this |
| 911s | is literally on the game world we expect |
| 913s | you to see other ships like the fact |
| 914s | that someone was fishing and saw the |
| 916s | gameplay that was happening on the on |
| 918s | the on the boat is really exciting |
| 921s | um yeah absolutely no nothing for this |
| 923s | cause for instance and the whole |
| 924s | shipworld thing or boat world or |
| 926s | everyone to call it is just the idea |
| 928s | that we can have a collection of |
| 929s | entities scenery players like items on |
| 933s | the ground beef like something that is |
| 935s | transmitted to the game world and moving |
| 937s | as a single entity that is that is |
| 939s | literally all this is for a tech demo I |
| 941s | think I still see a lot of chatting like |
| 943s | oh like how how does this matter for |
| 945s | gaining XP and and what is this gonna |
| 948s | work and it's like well those are those |
| 950s | are great questions that we'll cover in |
| 951s | core gameplay which is like two weeks |
| 953s | from now right now we were bombarded |
| 955s | with a ton of player questions being |
| 957s | like why are you doing core gameplay |
| 958s | first and we don't know how we're gonna |
| 960s | navigate a ship at Sea and how that's |
| 962s | gonna feel so you're like yeah actually |
| 964s | let's let's do navigation First you're |
| 965s | right let's cover how we envision you |
| 968s | moving around at Sea and what that |
| 970s | impact to that sort of has on the player |
| 972s | and then let's move into core gameplay |
| 975s | things like how you gain XP from doing |
| 977s | the skill the actual activities you'll |
| 979s | be doing that kind of thing |
| 981s | um just a reminder to people that the |
| 983s | whole intention of the sailing design |
| 985s | isn't to say here is our full design of |
| 989s | sailing boom go read this novel |
| 991s | right we want to bring players along the |
| 994s | way get feedback as we're going along |
| 996s | and just sort of build up to this final |
| 998s | finished uh product and design which you |
| 1001s | guys will then vote upon uh at some |
| 1003s | point in the future |
| 1005s | so yeah |
| 1007s | I kind of hope that over the course of |
| 1009s | this journey anyone who's like well |
| 1010s | sailing isn't a scale and it's like well |
| 1012s | we haven't got to explaining how it can |
| 1013s | be a skill yet I think the core gameplay |
| 1015s | is probably the biggest part that will |
| 1017s | hopefully turn a lot of people |
| 1019s | um so yeah yeah we're we're laying down |
| 1022s | this like Foundation |
| 1024s | or how you even like do the basic |
| 1027s | interactions on the sea and then we can |
| 1030s | really get into the meat of the school |
| 1032s | awesome yeah I've seen some questions |
| 1034s | about collision and Chip customization |
| 1036s | we'll probably cover that in the later |
| 1038s | questions but just to let chat know like |
| 1040s | I've seen your questions don't worry |
| 1042s | we've got that in mind |
| 1044s | um right so Mont husky can you explain |
| 1046s | how players can expect to move their |
| 1048s | ship |
| 1049s | um I know that we saw on the demo but |
| 1051s | just having your explanation and |
| 1053s | expertise and as well can you clarify |
| 1055s | whether players will be able to freely |
| 1057s | walk around on their boats |
| 1060s | so when we were looking at the tech demo |
| 1063s | I think one of the gameplay decisions |
| 1064s | that mod nin had made was that you could |
| 1066s | just click on the water to move the ship |
| 1068s | and then you click on the on the ship to |
| 1070s | move on the ship and that raised a lot |
| 1072s | of questions for us and Dev where we |
| 1074s | were thinking how does that work in |
| 1075s | multiplayer do you have like an assigned |
| 1077s | person who can move it is that a little |
| 1079s | weird |
| 1080s | um what happens if I want to move to the |
| 1082s | tile right on the edge of the ship and I |
| 1083s | actually miss clicking there my ship |
| 1085s | moved so from a gameplay perspective we |
| 1088s | would expect the player to navigate to |
| 1090s | The Wheel of the ship and then once |
| 1092s | they're sort of locked in with a wheel |
| 1093s | they're able to to move the ship to the |
| 1096s | coordinates at Sea and then other |
| 1097s | players some sort of do other stuff or |
| 1099s | if you want to go manipulate the sales |
| 1101s | or do other things you would leave that |
| 1103s | sort of navigation mode and then move |
| 1105s | over to that entity one thing that was |
| 1107s | really important for us when we were |
| 1108s | reading feedback and seeing like how |
| 1110s | players Imagine This Feeling old school |
| 1111s | and feeling like a skill was the idea |
| 1113s | that you're actually going and |
| 1114s | interacting with the things individually |
| 1115s | on the ship and not controlling them |
| 1117s | through an interface uh and that kind of |
| 1119s | thing so yeah it's still going to be |
| 1121s | point-and-click to move we're not really |
| 1123s | looking at anything like wasd or like |
| 1125s | interface to sort of navigate things and |
| 1128s | I think the only question that kind of |
| 1129s | has come up uh from sort of the Discord |
| 1131s | channels that we've been looking at is |
| 1133s | the idea of Perpetual momentum obviously |
| 1135s | if you're having to go back to the ship |
| 1137s | wheel every time you need to click is |
| 1139s | that going to get too tedious and we've |
| 1141s | just sort of said that Perpetual |
| 1142s | momentum is something we'd like to look |
| 1144s | forward uh to introducing as like a an |
| 1146s | upgrade space as you get a larger ship |
| 1148s | maybe you can install some sort of thing |
| 1150s | that can allow for Perpetual momentum |
| 1152s | that kind of thing but we don't know |
| 1154s | exactly the specifics of how that's |
| 1155s | going to work yet it's just something |
| 1156s | we're open to because as your ship gets |
| 1158s | larger and more complex |
| 1160s | um you will are probably going to want |
| 1162s | to have to do more things than just |
| 1164s | navigate it so yeah |
| 1168s | fantastic I love that explanation |
| 1170s | um so we've confirmed basically no um |
| 1173s | nothing other than point and click |
| 1174s | really there will be it's mainly |
| 1176s | point-and-click and then you navigate to |
| 1178s | your wheel |
| 1179s | um to make sure that you're kind of |
| 1180s | locked in so that you don't end up Miss |
| 1182s | clicking |
| 1183s | um Kieran I think we've already touched |
| 1185s | on this but could you kind of give us |
| 1187s | your view on why it was so important for |
| 1189s | the team to look at navigation and how |
| 1192s | important it is to the sailing skill |
| 1194s | well I think I think simply put |
| 1198s | it's very hard to go deeper into |
| 1200s | gameplay unless you know how players are |
| 1202s | even moving the bloody bow right how can |
| 1205s | you come up with all these other things |
| 1206s | until that's understood so it's a |
| 1209s | foundational piece like like uh lemon |
| 1211s | huskier said uh but also like it is one |
| 1215s | of the most common bits of skepticism |
| 1218s | and feedback we've seen from from |
| 1221s | players |
| 1222s | we can't imagine how bullets would work |
| 1224s | is it just gonna look a bit tacky you |
| 1226s | just get transmogged into a little robot |
| 1228s | or whatever |
| 1229s | well no it's the answer to that and this |
| 1232s | is this is the that proof that this is |
| 1234s | why we felt it was really important to |
| 1236s | look at this properly understand what is |
| 1238s | possible with our engine remember when |
| 1241s | we were talking about it when we were |
| 1242s | even looking at the three skills |
| 1244s | one of the big things we constantly |
| 1246s | mentioned when we come to refinement is |
| 1247s | we're going to the need to look at how |
| 1249s | do bullets work this this is that step |
| 1252s | essentially anything you can do on land |
| 1254s | you could do on a boat and it can move |
| 1257s | through the world in the real world and |
| 1259s | that to me means the possibilities |
| 1261s | gameplay wise really are endless yet it |
| 1265s | feels real it feels like it'll play |
| 1267s | quite like old school or you can click |
| 1269s | movement run around your ship it's not |
| 1271s | going to feel overly different which is |
| 1273s | awesome and so |
| 1276s | I think it's really good to get that |
| 1277s | sense of yes sailing is a part of this |
| 1279s | game it is part of this world and I love |
| 1281s | that clip of the the guy fishing on |
| 1284s | Canterbury Beach while somebody else |
| 1286s | goes past on their boat because that to |
| 1289s | me sets quite clearly like how |
| 1292s | properly part of old school this is it's |
| 1295s | part of the world you can be going doing |
| 1297s | something on your boat maybe you're |
| 1298s | fishing on sea or whatever or you're |
| 1300s | just training Sailing by some gameplay |
| 1303s | and you can see the other people on land |
| 1305s | fishing lobsters on Karam Japan or |
| 1307s | whatever it is that's great |
| 1310s | there's a lot still to work out right |
| 1312s | this is not to say this is done this is |
| 1314s | just that proof of concept to say we can |
| 1316s | do it like this brilliant now the |
| 1319s | shackles are off let's go and work out |
| 1321s | how the skill Works etc etc and |
| 1325s | we wanted to make sure like |
| 1327s | because we saw the feedback all the time |
| 1328s | like is sailing just gonna be like that |
| 1330s | section of um bon voyage which is a pain |
| 1333s | or is it gonna be like fishing trawler |
| 1337s | no it's much much better than that and |
| 1340s | feels much more like it's a genuine |
| 1342s | interaction you can do in game and it's |
| 1345s | not hidden behind an interface or |
| 1346s | whatever |
| 1348s | yeah it's really great to give players a |
| 1350s | visual that isn't what they've currently |
| 1352s | seen in game for sure and I'm really |
| 1353s | looking forward to the feedback |
| 1355s | um so please do keep letting us know |
| 1357s | what you think |
| 1359s | um can we talk about the tech again so |
| 1362s | um anyone can take this is it going to |
| 1363s | be possible just clarify that you will |
| 1366s | be able to have other people on your |
| 1368s | boat and are you already starting to |
| 1370s | think about the kinds of possibilities |
| 1372s | for group content on boats |
| 1375s | yeah |
| 1376s | hell yeah |
| 1378s | makes sense right it would be such a it |
| 1380s | would be such a missed opportunity if we |
| 1383s | as an MMO like like a big sandbox MMO |
| 1386s | added boats that you couldn't like sail |
| 1389s | around with other people especially |
| 1390s | given like how big the boats in the game |
| 1392s | are like the ones that you see is like |
| 1395s | I mean |
| 1396s | yeah get a crew together go sailing |
| 1399s | there were you there was a clip in the |
| 1400s | the demo that showed like four people |
| 1403s | running around a boat |
| 1405s | um and there was like you know it looks |
| 1407s | a little bit awkward because one of them |
| 1408s | runs upstairs and you know you can't see |
| 1410s | people upstairs in old school you can |
| 1411s | only see people who are on the same |
| 1412s | floor as you |
| 1414s | um but you know that's something we can |
| 1415s | fix |
| 1416s | um yeah absolutely |
| 1419s | oh Big W |
| 1422s | um and do you think at this stage other |
| 1423s | people might be able to help you steer |
| 1426s | the boat and influence the way that it |
| 1428s | moves or do you think that they're going |
| 1430s | to be passengers like what are your |
| 1431s | early thoughts on how other people might |
| 1434s | interact with the boat are they just |
| 1436s | gonna kind of I think what husky was |
| 1438s | saying kind of covers it really like I |
| 1441s | think the player who goes up to the big |
| 1444s | wheel or depends on the type of ship |
| 1445s | right but some entity on the boat will |
| 1448s | get control over the ship's movement |
| 1451s | um in terms of which direction it's |
| 1453s | going and so on that |
| 1455s | baby we'll have things like if you're in |
| 1458s | a group maybe you need to give |
| 1459s | permission to somebody else on your boat |
| 1461s | like who knows there's lots of little |
| 1463s | details like that but in theory somebody |
| 1466s | else on the book could go up to the |
| 1467s | wheel take over say I'm the captain now |
| 1469s | like you just did in the chat |
| 1473s | yeah but but we're also conscious of |
| 1476s | like multiplayer is awesome and when it |
| 1478s | comes to stuff like hey maybe in 2000 |
| 1481s | and 2027 we had a raid that's see and |
| 1485s | you you have to go on with your team on |
| 1487s | the boat |
| 1488s | that might feel a little bit that that |
| 1490s | feels very suitable for multiplayer but |
| 1492s | do you want your core training stuff for |
| 1494s | sailing to be multiplayer I think |
| 1496s | probably not maybe as an option but we |
| 1499s | are conscious a lot of players like do |
| 1501s | like playing the game solo as well and |
| 1503s | we don't want to hide like best XP rates |
| 1505s | and so on behind playing with other |
| 1507s | people for example so that's all the |
| 1509s | stuff that's going to be thought about |
| 1510s | when we go into gameplay where does |
| 1512s | multiplayer Ships Come into it |
| 1515s | um what about NPC crew like that might |
| 1517s | well be a part of it but also I like |
| 1520s | what somebody else said in the chat like |
| 1521s | can I just play noobs to clear my ship |
| 1523s | who knows I totally right that could be |
| 1525s | part of the ecosystem and how we really |
| 1527s | love that |
| 1528s | proper MMO aspect of it so who knows |
| 1531s | yeah I'm just I'm imagining now just |
| 1533s | like a a raid where you like five boats |
| 1538s | come in that all have like four players |
| 1540s | on them and you've got this crazy 20 |
| 1541s | person like raid out in the middle of |
| 1543s | the sea that'd be ridiculous but |
| 1547s | technically feasible so that's really |
| 1549s | awesome |
| 1551s | so let's just endless |
| 1553s | um okay let's talk about par thing so we |
| 1555s | haven't really touched on that as part |
| 1557s | of the demo could you guys explain how |
| 1560s | you imagine pathing to work |
| 1564s | um |
| 1565s | there you go go for a husky |
| 1568s | okay uh so something that we said right |
| 1570s | from the get-go is that the sort of way |
| 1573s | that players move just isn't necessarily |
| 1575s | going to be appropriate for ships like |
| 1577s | imagine if your ship could just 180 you |
| 1579s | suddenly face the other way and turn |
| 1581s | back quickly right that |
| 1583s | I know that like realism video games |
| 1586s | don't necessarily go hand in hand and |
| 1587s | there used to be a line somewhere but |
| 1588s | that feels like something that would |
| 1589s | just feel really jarring right so we |
| 1592s | would want players to be able to sort of |
| 1594s | have their ship travel in an arc to get |
| 1596s | to a point like more slowly like like |
| 1598s | you might expect a ship to work uh in |
| 1601s | the real world uh so that's something |
| 1603s | that we're quite intent about but also |
| 1605s | the normal player pathing algorithm for |
| 1608s | those like who sort of know it you kind |
| 1610s | of just go in a straight line and then |
| 1612s | like they are going to move into finish |
| 1613s | off your getting to your destination |
| 1615s | usually which |
| 1617s | kind of would feel strange in a big Open |
| 1621s | Sea that didn't have many things to sort |
| 1623s | of like block and interact with you just |
| 1624s | always see ships doing that whereas in |
| 1627s | the open world that's kind of hidden |
| 1629s | right because you'll occasionally have |
| 1630s | to nap during a tree or a rock or a |
| 1632s | fence or a wall or around a corner it |
| 1635s | just it's kind of like sort of hidden |
| 1637s | behind the scenes with all that so we |
| 1640s | would very much like to have that more |
| 1642s | General sort of Arc to get there and |
| 1644s | slow sort of steering and I mean correct |
| 1647s | me if I'm wrong then but that's |
| 1648s | something that you guys an engine have |
| 1650s | been sort of backing from the start and |
| 1652s | saying yeah that's something that you |
| 1653s | guys would like to do and very possible |
| 1656s | yeah yeah it's basically just |
| 1659s | pathfinding with extra steps |
| 1661s | um it will be more complicated than |
| 1663s | layer path lining obviously but uh one |
| 1667s | thing that old school does really well |
| 1668s | is all the systems are fundamentally |
| 1672s | quite simple |
| 1673s | um and we'd keep it that way for the |
| 1675s | sailing path finding you know it would |
| 1677s | have a few extra steps |
| 1680s | very very I think |
| 1682s | um sorry because you go ahead |
| 1685s | you're gonna say the thing I was gonna |
| 1687s | say |
| 1688s | uh yeah I I was just gonna ask about |
| 1690s | um the lithium uh the Reddit submission |
| 1693s | basically I think the the user was |
| 1695s | called lithium potassium I do apologize |
| 1696s | I'm gonna double check the name because |
| 1698s | I was rushing around uh when I was was |
| 1700s | lithium potassium okay great we saw a |
| 1702s | really cool uh Reddit submission |
| 1706s | um by lithium potassium take a look at |
| 1707s | this |
| 1709s | this was their suggestion for |
| 1710s | pathfinding and I I wanted to ask a |
| 1713s | question just as a talking point like |
| 1714s | was this something that you were keen on |
| 1716s | taking further as inspiration |
| 1721s | absolutely |
| 1723s | the limitation that it has is |
| 1727s | the boat can only turn 45 degrees every |
| 1731s | Tech |
| 1733s | um and that just kind of |
| 1736s | is it's a very simple like change |
| 1740s | but it adds like a very kind of real |
| 1742s | effect where you now have this big |
| 1744s | turning Arc |
| 1745s | um we've been talking since the start of |
| 1747s | the skill is like boats can't turn like |
| 1749s | players that can't be the case it would |
| 1751s | look ridiculous |
| 1753s | um so |
| 1755s | yeah having that Arc maybe having like |
| 1758s | some amount of acceleration and |
| 1759s | deceleration so you don't just like kind |
| 1762s | of just start going at this consistent |
| 1764s | speed |
| 1765s | um |
| 1766s | all these kind of things I think would |
| 1768s | add a lot to the feel of |
| 1770s | sailing a boat |
| 1773s | awesome husky did you want to add even |
| 1776s | more so with the um I'm just gonna say |
| 1778s | even more so with the bigger boats I |
| 1780s | think like with a little robot like this |
| 1782s | actually I'd say you get away with it |
| 1783s | better but when you're on a massive like |
| 1785s | ports of rib style sale but it would |
| 1788s | look absurd if that just burns in the |
| 1789s | spot |
| 1790s | yeah for the um for the demo that that |
| 1794s | we put together uh we didn't change any |
| 1797s | of the pathing at all it's just using |
| 1799s | like normal pathing but what we did do |
| 1801s | was make the speed at which the boat |
| 1803s | like visually turns really slow |
| 1806s | um so even though that boat is kind of |
| 1808s | doing like a immediate diagonal or |
| 1811s | immediately changes directions because |
| 1812s | it rotates so slowly |
| 1814s | it kind of looks alright like without us |
| 1816s | even doing anything we didn't show it |
| 1819s | off in the in the demo uh without us |
| 1821s | really doing too much |
| 1822s | it did feel kind of all right and we'd |
| 1825s | go and do some extra steps like this and |
| 1827s | we you could get it to feel like pretty |
| 1829s | nice |
| 1831s | I think you've both said words that are |
| 1833s | a particular word that's really |
| 1834s | important which is feel |
| 1836s | so this is something that like while |
| 1838s | this grid that we're looking at is very |
| 1840s | very particular in exactly how it works |
| 1842s | what is really important is that it |
| 1844s | feels good once we're on a ship so we |
| 1846s | could start with implementing exactly |
| 1848s | this in the demo and then if it feels |
| 1850s | really bad we'll try and change it or do |
| 1852s | something else |
| 1853s | um it's something that's |
| 1855s | we can only really talk about on a |
| 1857s | theoretical level until we actually try |
| 1859s | and implement and I think that this is |
| 1861s | something that is probably going to get |
| 1863s | a lot of player feedback because uh |
| 1866s | assuming that this skill gets greenlit |
| 1867s | and moves on and we can have beta |
| 1869s | servers we get players to start testing |
| 1870s | give us feedback and all this stuff |
| 1873s | um we imagine that one of the biggest |
| 1875s | things we'll get is is less going to be |
| 1877s | about like hey I think this meta is very |
| 1879s | powerful for this particular level I |
| 1882s | think what we're probably going to get |
| 1883s | actually is hey like I think boats feel |
| 1885s | either really good but I could change it |
| 1888s | this way or hey even if they feel really |
| 1890s | bad but these are things that we changed |
| 1892s | because I think we are not releasing the |
| 1894s | skill unless navigating the ship at Sea |
| 1896s | feels good because that is that is the |
| 1899s | biggest most core part of this skill |
| 1903s | absolutely |
| 1905s | um Amen to that we really want it to |
| 1906s | feel intuitive |
| 1908s | um engaging and as husky said we're |
| 1912s | looking at a green light pole sort of |
| 1914s | around Late July if that then passes |
| 1917s | through we would then be working on a |
| 1918s | beta which uh we would then take your |
| 1921s | feedback about this kind of stuff so |
| 1923s | it's not absolutely set in stone we hope |
| 1925s | that the demo and the blog about |
| 1928s | navigational mechanics |
| 1929s | um this week will give you a bit more |
| 1931s | information |
| 1932s | um but this is still we'll still work |
| 1934s | for players on this like it has to feel |
| 1936s | right and we welcome constructive |
| 1938s | feedback on it |
| 1940s | um speaking of feel oh yeah sorry husky |
| 1943s | you go ahead |
| 1944s | I would say one thing that was shared I |
| 1946s | just saw it was it was like a player had |
| 1948s | said suggestion for a lunar spell that |
| 1949s | rotates your bow to 180 degrees so you |
| 1951s | just cast a spell and it looks like |
| 1954s | um and I don't know whether that |
| 1956s | specific idea is a good one or a bad one |
| 1958s | but the idea that we this isn't just |
| 1961s | Sailing In traditional old-school |
| 1963s | RuneScape right this isn't just sorry in |
| 1965s | like the traditional world this isn't |
| 1966s | like you know early 100th Century |
| 1969s | sailing where we have to live by |
| 1970s | everything that the real world does this |
| 1973s | is a fantasy MMO low fantasy albeit that |
| 1976s | has potential to have inspiration with |
| 1978s | magic potential to integrate with |
| 1980s | technologies that exist in in our |
| 1982s | current world you know Dwarven |
| 1984s | Technologies or fremitic Seer |
| 1986s | Technologies to be able to see weather |
| 1987s | stuff so the idea that we can sort of |
| 1991s | circumvent sort of expectations as you |
| 1994s | level up the skill upgrade your ship to |
| 1996s | get additional features is like a really |
| 1998s | cool thing that I think we haven't even |
| 2000s | explored fully right the idea that |
| 2002s | we ask how old school how sailing Works |
| 2005s | in old school RuneScape but the the next |
| 2007s | logical question is |
| 2009s | how does being an old school RuneScape |
| 2011s | directly impact some of the things that |
| 2012s | we can do with sailing like as the |
| 2014s | player progresses through the skill |
| 2015s | because I I remember seeing a really |
| 2017s | janky Reddit image that was like oh |
| 2019s | black dragon height sales and all this |
| 2022s | and I'm like well actually if you're |
| 2023s | sailing to fight a dragon you might want |
| 2025s | some sort of black dragon height sales |
| 2027s | that don't just get breeds on fire so I |
| 2029s | don't know I think that that sort of |
| 2030s | integration with the this sort of whole |
| 2032s | game world is just like a really |
| 2034s | exciting thing |
| 2037s | yeah |
| 2039s | I absolutely loved that |
| 2041s | um I really really love that |
| 2043s | um okay let's talk about camera controls |
| 2045s | I've seen it pop up a bit in chat um nin |
| 2048s | can you take this one so |
| 2050s | how do you imagine can I also combine |
| 2052s | this question with render distance |
| 2053s | because I've also seen that pop up um so |
| 2055s | how do you imagine camera controls uh |
| 2058s | render distance view working with |
| 2061s | sailing because obviously a ship is |
| 2062s | going to take up a bigger portion of |
| 2064s | your screen than |
| 2065s | um you perhaps would otherwise so if you |
| 2067s | can just talk us through that |
| 2069s | yeah so if we start with render distance |
| 2072s | um |
| 2073s | it's |
| 2074s | something that's obviously on on our |
| 2078s | minds |
| 2079s | um we have the steamer mobile clients |
| 2081s | they have an increased render distance |
| 2082s | at the moment |
| 2084s | um |
| 2084s | obviously everyone who's playing on |
| 2086s | moonlight |
| 2087s | hopefully you're using the GPU plugin |
| 2089s | and you're bumping the Reddit distance |
| 2090s | up because it makes the experience quite |
| 2092s | a lot better in Vanilla Java uh it's |
| 2094s | kind of capped to that very short render |
| 2097s | distance |
| 2098s | um that is obviously something that |
| 2101s | we're aware of and in that last example |
| 2103s | the boat that we used was kind of |
| 2105s | massive |
| 2106s | um and does take off quite a lot of the |
| 2108s | screen |
| 2109s | um so it's not something we've got an |
| 2112s | answer for like right now but it's |
| 2114s | something that we're very very aware of |
| 2116s | um as for the camera itself |
| 2119s | uh |
| 2122s | I guess when you're controlling the boat |
| 2124s | your camera is going to be centered on |
| 2126s | the boat |
| 2127s | and if you're controlling your player |
| 2128s | then your character will be centered on |
| 2130s | your player as you walk around the boat |
| 2131s | that's where we'd like to get to |
| 2135s | um |
| 2136s | the it gets kind of funny when you have |
| 2138s | when you're on a boat and your boat is |
| 2140s | actually rotating your camera's focused |
| 2142s | on your player uh so we'll have to |
| 2145s | figure that one out that gets a little |
| 2147s | bit confusing and disorienting but I |
| 2150s | imagine we can fix the camera to the |
| 2151s | boat rather than the world so that's not |
| 2155s | too much of an issue |
| 2157s | um and then one of the other discussions |
| 2159s | we were having was about |
| 2161s | um let's say you had a crow's nest in |
| 2164s | your ship and you wanted to send someone |
| 2165s | up there with a telescope so they could |
| 2167s | look out into the distance |
| 2169s | um |
| 2169s | that's probably something that we could |
| 2172s | we could manage to do |
| 2175s | um you know we could put we could put |
| 2177s | the camera like a little bit further |
| 2179s | down the world and kind of |
| 2181s | smoke a mirrors pass some engine |
| 2183s | limitations to make it feel like you're |
| 2184s | looking into the distance we could |
| 2185s | definitely do things like that |
| 2187s | um so yeah there's a lot of a lot of |
| 2189s | ideas floating around |
| 2191s | um yeah |
| 2192s | having to hear people's thoughts on that |
| 2195s | awesome very very good explanation |
| 2198s | um |
| 2199s | can I ask another question so um size of |
| 2202s | ships and the type of ship that we'd |
| 2204s | like to offer players |
| 2206s | um husky can you talk us through that |
| 2207s | and potentially explain how navigation |
| 2210s | might change based on what size your |
| 2212s | ship is and what type of ship it is |
| 2214s | maybe touch on customization as well if |
| 2217s | you can |
| 2219s | yeah so it was kind of skipped over in |
| 2223s | the demo if you noticed uh there was |
| 2224s | like a really small ship and then a |
| 2226s | large a slightly larger one than a |
| 2228s | massive one and right now for our uh |
| 2230s | navigation design we've sort of said |
| 2232s | we're gonna have three tiers of [ __ ] |
| 2234s | like sort of rough tiers of [ __ ] I could |
| 2237s | imagine maybe a a scale between them as |
| 2240s | you upgrade right that you know but |
| 2241s | let's just go with a free Seer system |
| 2243s | for now you have small ships large ships |
| 2246s | and colossal ships so small ships from a |
| 2249s | navigation perspective would be like |
| 2251s | your kind of smaller row boats maybe |
| 2253s | with like a sail it's supposed to be a |
| 2255s | very simple solo player based experience |
| 2258s | and I don't say solo as in you can't |
| 2260s | have your friends on I mean the |
| 2262s | complexity of navigating this specific |
| 2264s | ship is designed around one person being |
| 2267s | there |
| 2268s | uh a large ship would be a complex solo |
| 2272s | experience so still doable solo uh |
| 2274s | probably so if a small ship's maybe like |
| 2277s | four by three ish size a larger ship we |
| 2279s | kind of got pegged in the like six by |
| 2281s | ten ish size these are just all Park |
| 2283s | sizes to give an idea of scale uh and |
| 2286s | then our colossal ship is a complex |
| 2287s | group experience uh and again not saying |
| 2290s | solo players can't do it just this is |
| 2292s | how the complexity of operating this |
| 2295s | vessel uh is designed around being uh |
| 2298s | one thing that we've come up a lot |
| 2299s | Kieran touched on it was oh well if I |
| 2301s | need a group to have this large ship |
| 2303s | that I want to play solo well we're |
| 2305s | going to look into things like NPC |
| 2306s | crewmates like we love the idea of |
| 2307s | building and customizing it and like a |
| 2309s | sort of NPC crew to help you that kind |
| 2311s | of thing uh but the different ships |
| 2313s | cannot we all want to make them feel |
| 2315s | very different uh we can play around |
| 2317s | with ship speeds turning speed sort of |
| 2320s | render distance kind of to give them all |
| 2321s | a different feel uh but I think one of |
| 2324s | the biggest things that will change how |
| 2325s | they feel is that as you just sort of |
| 2327s | have a larger shape you'll be able to |
| 2330s | build and upgrade more facilities on |
| 2332s | your ship and your ship will be able to |
| 2334s | do more things so if a smaller vessel is |
| 2338s | you know maybe got like a small cannon |
| 2341s | or ballista or something up front in a |
| 2342s | sale or maybe an extra other thing on it |
| 2345s | you're not going to be doing much other |
| 2347s | than the navigation and maybe that a |
| 2349s | couple of other things but if a larger |
| 2351s | ship has like four or five or six |
| 2353s | different things you can interact with |
| 2354s | uh maybe some of those things that |
| 2356s | you're building and interacting are |
| 2358s | going to take some of that navigation |
| 2359s | burden off you so you can interact with |
| 2361s | more of the things on the ship and sort |
| 2362s | of scale that up to colossal so that's |
| 2365s | that's kind of how we're seeing this |
| 2367s | sort of progression cruise ships as you |
| 2369s | go along |
| 2371s | um |
| 2372s | I think that we definitely want players |
| 2374s | to be able to have more than one though |
| 2376s | I think that's such a such a fundamental |
| 2378s | part is we don't just want you to have |
| 2379s | oh you always have the biggest ship and |
| 2381s | it can always do the most stuff and this |
| 2382s | is the perfect ship for all the |
| 2384s | activities in game we want you to be |
| 2386s | able to have multiple different ships uh |
| 2388s | each one built for their each thing |
| 2389s | we've even played around with the idea |
| 2391s | that what if like your colossal ship |
| 2393s | could just have sort of your your your |
| 2394s | small ship sort of like attached to it |
| 2397s | at the side and then at certain points |
| 2399s | we need to go and explore Islands you |
| 2400s | just like anchor up and take your robot |
| 2402s | to the maybe the places that are more |
| 2404s | sort of uh |
| 2406s | tightly sort of like sorry what would |
| 2408s | say narrower places to navigate that |
| 2410s | kind of idea |
| 2412s | um and as far as uh like the different |
| 2415s | ships as well we were playing around the |
| 2416s | idea of different types of sea so maybe |
| 2419s | shallow C is ideal for having these |
| 2421s | small vessels uh just general open C is |
| 2425s | suited for large vessels and the deep |
| 2427s | sea is where you want to be using |
| 2428s | colossal vessels and we probably just |
| 2430s | have some sort of penalty for using a |
| 2432s | ship that isn't quite optimized for it |
| 2435s | it could be sort of like a movement |
| 2436s | speed penalty but there's also the idea |
| 2439s | that just having less things available |
| 2441s | especially on like a smaller ship could |
| 2444s | just be the penalty in itself right if |
| 2445s | you've got a really small uh single |
| 2448s | Cannon and a large sea creature suddenly |
| 2451s | comes up and your [ __ ] maybe doesn't |
| 2453s | have a lot of Health it's maybe that is |
| 2455s | the penalty but it's not gonna be able |
| 2457s | to be able to deal with that threat as |
| 2458s | opposed to a specific uh |
| 2460s | sir |
| 2462s | arbitrary movement penalty so we're |
| 2464s | these are all the things that we're |
| 2465s | talking about and a lot of these |
| 2467s | examples that I've given are just to |
| 2468s | give context to the situation and |
| 2471s | describe the differences especially in |
| 2474s | the different sizes of ships but from a |
| 2476s | navigation perspective and what we're |
| 2477s | refining right now that's kind of what |
| 2479s | we're pitching that we have three |
| 2480s | different tiers of ships three different |
| 2482s | types of c and just sort of have that |
| 2484s | complexity of uh controlling the ships |
| 2487s | and managing them increase as you uh as |
| 2491s | you sort of go up in size |
| 2495s | question from me it may not be designed |
| 2498s | yet but you imagine players would have |
| 2500s | one small ship one medium one large and |
| 2503s | then they just work on customizing and |
| 2504s | upgrading that one ship or are you |
| 2507s | thinking |
| 2509s | um they could have multiple versions of |
| 2511s | different sizes of ships and upgrade |
| 2513s | them depending on that's like a far out |
| 2515s | question it might not be but |
| 2518s | I don't think I would necessarily want |
| 2520s | to restrict them to one small one large |
| 2522s | one colossal unless there was a tech |
| 2524s | restriction meaning it had to be that |
| 2526s | way |
| 2527s | um we obviously haven't started doing |
| 2529s | things like mapping player variables to |
| 2531s | ships and how complex that gets but I'd |
| 2533s | ideally like players to just have a |
| 2536s | number of ships and if they want five |
| 2537s | specific small ships go ahead if they |
| 2540s | want five sorry larger ships go ahead uh |
| 2543s | and that kind of thing we'd obviously |
| 2544s | expect that having at least one of each |
| 2547s | is probably a good idea to sort of |
| 2549s | enable you to navigate all the varieties |
| 2553s | of C more optimally but all of these are |
| 2557s | just like all of these are just ideas at |
| 2559s | this point right I think that |
| 2561s | one thing I've seen come up a lot with |
| 2563s | players is oh what do you think about |
| 2565s | this specific thing how do you feel |
| 2566s | about this type of content at Sea and |
| 2568s | the question is that we're going to sort |
| 2570s | of build that over time and we just want |
| 2571s | to give players the direction that we're |
| 2573s | heading in right now and how it relates |
| 2575s | to navigation so that we can get more |
| 2577s | specific and relevant feedback to sort |
| 2580s | of help have the community help us shape |
| 2582s | this skill into the skill that they the |
| 2584s | best skill that it can be and the skill |
| 2586s | that they want for the game |
| 2588s | well some fantastic explanation |
| 2591s | um right we've only got 15 minutes so |
| 2592s | I'll run through the next ones really |
| 2594s | quickly |
| 2595s | um how will players expect to get access |
| 2598s | to the Sea have we kind of designed that |
| 2600s | in mind |
| 2603s | just simply going to a port uh one thing |
| 2606s | we've talked about a lot with sailing is |
| 2608s | the idea of sort of revamping ports |
| 2609s | around the world making them a really |
| 2611s | like truly Social Hub uh in old school |
| 2615s | RuneScape for the sailing activity and |
| 2616s | having them dotted all around across the |
| 2618s | game we already have these ports but |
| 2620s | they might need additional features to |
| 2621s | sort of support sailing uh well one |
| 2624s | thing we have also thought about is that |
| 2625s | if you're going to an island and from a |
| 2627s | lower perspective it doesn't really make |
| 2628s | sense for there to be a port there it's |
| 2629s | an Undiscovered Island why would it just |
| 2631s | have this fully functional Port we can |
| 2633s | have these sort of like mirroring points |
| 2634s | where you could dock your ship and then |
| 2636s | go explore and then come back to it so |
| 2638s | you wouldn't necessarily be restricted |
| 2640s | to just ports but either it would be |
| 2642s | either ports or specific designated |
| 2644s | locations |
| 2646s | um we wouldn't want players to just sail |
| 2647s | freely and sort of drop off anywhere |
| 2651s | they want across the coast while it |
| 2653s | sounds it would sound nice it gets very |
| 2656s | complicated for dealing with things like |
| 2657s | restrictions and access to content one |
| 2660s | of the best examples is that players |
| 2662s | shouldn't have access to to randwin |
| 2663s | unless they've done underground pass in |
| 2666s | that Quest Series so |
| 2669s | one of the cleanest ways of doing that |
| 2670s | is having that sort of single access |
| 2672s | point or access points like work to |
| 2674s | Grass where we go cool have they done |
| 2676s | this Quest no right okay now they're |
| 2677s | getting kind of shot at by the guards |
| 2679s | and told to go away because they don't |
| 2681s | trust like strangers you know to their |
| 2683s | lands like that sort of thematic idea |
| 2686s | and then you're saying okay I can't dock |
| 2688s | there and if we just allowed you to sort |
| 2690s | of |
| 2690s | like say place your ship anywhere along |
| 2693s | the coast it would get really |
| 2694s | complicated in all the checks and all |
| 2696s | the tiles and oh can we dock here and |
| 2698s | that kind of thing so yeah ports are |
| 2700s | just like a necessity for us from a |
| 2702s | implementation perspective to make it uh |
| 2705s | easier to handle |
| 2706s | cool sorry for spamming you with |
| 2708s | questions |
| 2709s | um let's talk about Collision I've seen |
| 2711s | a couple of people asking about that um |
| 2713s | anyone can take this but can you explain |
| 2715s | the ramifications of |
| 2717s | having many players at Sea potentially |
| 2719s | colliding their boats and how that works |
| 2721s | on a technical or |
| 2724s | developmental level |
| 2726s | yeah I think |
| 2728s | uh wherever at the moment is it's just |
| 2730s | gonna kind of work how players Collide |
| 2732s | which is that they don't |
| 2734s | um when two boats intersect uh the boat |
| 2737s | that's not your boat will just kind of |
| 2738s | become a shadow on the water because |
| 2740s | otherwise |
| 2742s | gameplay wise that's just going to get |
| 2743s | really annoying you don't want like some |
| 2746s | I don't know some Clan gets together and |
| 2748s | just create like a blockade across like |
| 2750s | the entire ocean now you can't go |
| 2753s | anywhere like that doesn't make any |
| 2755s | sense Bridge |
| 2761s | um so yeah that's that's where our |
| 2763s | thoughts are at the moment |
| 2765s | um we there were some interesting |
| 2766s | discussions as well about |
| 2768s | um you know what if like could your boat |
| 2771s | crash into something |
| 2774s | um |
| 2775s | and then like your boat would be damaged |
| 2777s | or is your boat always going to like |
| 2779s | half find through whatever obstacles you |
| 2782s | send it through |
| 2784s | um so yeah that's all stuff we're |
| 2786s | thinking about but as for like player |
| 2788s | collision and maybe player Collision |
| 2790s | would turn on if there's like PVP boat |
| 2792s | areas maybe or maybe it wouldn't |
| 2796s | yeah we'd have to like experiment with |
| 2798s | that and and figure it out |
| 2801s | yeah I mean the whole idea can you |
| 2803s | imagine |
| 2804s | sorry husky |
| 2806s | I was just gonna say so can you imagine |
| 2808s | on launch day wherever we I don't know |
| 2811s | where the like level one sailing Hub |
| 2813s | would be at this point but you can you |
| 2814s | imagine everyone gets their first boat |
| 2816s | and the ships Collide and there's like a |
| 2818s | thousand players from one world it just |
| 2820s | it wouldn't work we have to we have to |
| 2822s | get it we have to get it right |
| 2830s | busy that's a lot of people you're on |
| 2833s | boats I didn't collided like it just |
| 2835s | doesn't it wouldn't really work would |
| 2836s | have to limit it in some capacity so it |
| 2839s | can maybe work like Lin says in specific |
| 2843s | activities like if we did a raid down |
| 2846s | the line with boats like hey that could |
| 2847s | have totally different rules on some of |
| 2850s | this stuff to what regular sailing |
| 2852s | training and gameplay looks like but uh |
| 2854s | yeah sorry |
| 2857s | no that's that's exactly what I was |
| 2859s | gonna say and even in the example of say |
| 2862s | PDP I know that that's a scary topic |
| 2864s | right now PPP boats at Sea uh |
| 2867s | that isn't something that we're ruling |
| 2869s | out but it is something that it depends |
| 2871s | on the entire content implementation |
| 2873s | right like there's probably like four or |
| 2874s | five different PVP ship ideas that we |
| 2877s | could pitch to The Community and uh like |
| 2879s | they like one or they like none of them |
| 2880s | and that kind of thing so it's not |
| 2882s | something we're ruling out but it |
| 2883s | absolutely feels like Collision should |
| 2885s | exist there right the idea that I'm |
| 2886s | ramming my ship into someone else we |
| 2888s | both take damage sounds really cool and |
| 2890s | yeah as you said like if a specific |
| 2891s | content implementations where we're |
| 2894s | specifically testing your navigation |
| 2895s | skills to not collide with things uh we |
| 2899s | should probably turn it on and do that |
| 2900s | kind of thing but even even when it |
| 2901s | comes to just scenery I'm not a big fan |
| 2903s | of I didn't quite get to my wheel in |
| 2905s | time in general navigation and now my |
| 2907s | sich like crashed into land is damaged |
| 2909s | it feels like that element of realism |
| 2911s | that just detracts from gameplay |
| 2913s | meaninglessly where it's like a simple |
| 2915s | mistake suddenly requires like a |
| 2917s | punishment on the player |
| 2919s | um yeah |
| 2921s | awesome it's awesome to hear your |
| 2923s | thoughts on that um so I've seen a |
| 2926s | couple of people talking making memes |
| 2929s | about feeling like ships might not be |
| 2931s | big enough to scale with the sea I'm |
| 2933s | hoping the demo helped with that um but |
| 2935s | curious to hear the panel here's |
| 2937s | thoughts on expanding the sea do we need |
| 2940s | the sea expanded to deal with maybe the |
| 2942s | influx of people that could be training |
| 2944s | sailing do you think that its size is |
| 2946s | good right now |
| 2948s | so it comes down to Content density at C |
| 2952s | and that's something we already surveyed |
| 2954s | players on where we said hey would you |
| 2955s | like just very thinly spread content to |
| 2957s | see or would you like more fully |
| 2959s | developed areas and we could just leave |
| 2960s | areas to be expanded upon later and |
| 2962s | players were saying yeah we want more |
| 2963s | densely packed areas of actual content |
| 2966s | and the idea there's like an early game |
| 2968s | sea area like a few of those dotted |
| 2970s | around and some more mid-game series and |
| 2971s | this part's dedicated to this content so |
| 2974s | in terms of expanding to see if we have |
| 2976s | this sort of densely pack see it's |
| 2977s | already quite a large job to do the |
| 2979s | existing C let alone expanding uh there |
| 2982s | probably does still need to be some |
| 2983s | growth uh particularly say fossil island |
| 2986s | is right up against the very Eastern Sea |
| 2988s | and Zaya is like five tiles off the edge |
| 2991s | of the western sea so we probably want |
| 2992s | to expand it a bit more to allow you to |
| 2994s | sail around those and make it feel more |
| 2996s | more immersive |
| 2998s | um but as far as like C scale in general |
| 3000s | uh the Prototype itself was you know |
| 3003s | obviously just showing hey you're here's |
| 3005s | different sizes of ship and hey cool |
| 3007s | look here's multiplayer on a ship and |
| 3008s | whatnot but I think players would have |
| 3011s | seen like that really large ship really |
| 3013s | close to land and go oh my God that |
| 3014s | feels really strange and people look at |
| 3016s | well there's crandor really close to to |
| 3019s | land here and I wouldn't fit a large |
| 3021s | ship there and we're just gonna have to |
| 3023s | be very clever about what we denote as |
| 3025s | being shallow sea open C and DC right |
| 3028s | we're gonna have to make sure that |
| 3030s | players are using the appropriate sized |
| 3032s | uh vessels for the area provided and |
| 3035s | that would help to alleviate some of the |
| 3037s | C scale problems because |
| 3038s | the truth is that Gillen or is already |
| 3041s | not very well put to scale look at the |
| 3044s | size of mountains compared to houses |
| 3045s | compared to players compared to the |
| 3048s | ships even at Port and you go |
| 3050s | actually that just isn't |
| 3052s | that just isn't the scale and I don't |
| 3054s | think the game ever really tried to |
| 3055s | right it tried to just create this fun |
| 3058s | game world to sort of play in and that's |
| 3060s | something that we're just going to |
| 3062s | continue on with with sailing |
| 3065s | awesome fantastic |
| 3068s | um right in our last few minutes |
| 3070s | um sorry husky I'm gonna put you on the |
| 3071s | spot again |
| 3073s | um how do you imagine wins and currents |
| 3075s | influencing navigation |
| 3079s | these are things that have come up quite |
| 3081s | a lot in the the Discord where we've |
| 3083s | been talking with players and there's |
| 3084s | definitely been a a sentiment that we |
| 3087s | don't just want to have wind be |
| 3088s | something that is a negative but I want |
| 3090s | to be able to like use my sales |
| 3092s | effectively to use wind as a positive |
| 3095s | and this kind of thing and it is a |
| 3097s | question of do we include these |
| 3099s | mechanics and do we go with uh sort of |
| 3102s | this part of realism and sailing to me |
| 3104s | the both of these make what is |
| 3107s | fundamentally sort of navigation to see |
| 3110s | interesting the idea that I have to drop |
| 3112s | my sales or put up my sales based on the |
| 3114s | Wind maybe there's slight uh movement |
| 3116s | penalties for not doing it correctly or |
| 3118s | like following a current helps you be |
| 3119s | faster or provide some other benefit |
| 3122s | um these are things that we are |
| 3123s | definitely looking to explore uh wind |
| 3126s | we've got as being |
| 3128s | I'm more sort of dynamic you need to |
| 3130s | react to it it's affecting everyone in |
| 3132s | the area at the same time and those that |
| 3134s | can utilize it correctly will get a |
| 3136s | benefit from it and currents are just |
| 3139s | this static thing in the game world |
| 3140s | where you know you're going to this era |
| 3142s | you've discovered a current and you can |
| 3144s | manipulate that current or like to |
| 3146s | indirect or so you can you know to go in |
| 3148s | the current if you're going this |
| 3149s | direction or to avoid it if you're going |
| 3151s | the other direction |
| 3153s | um but when it comes to game design |
| 3154s | while it's something oh my god I've got |
| 3156s | to deal with wind and current and what a |
| 3158s | strong wind is going against the current |
| 3160s | and I can't deal with it |
| 3162s | um we would definitely not want to |
| 3163s | overload these mechanics just from |
| 3165s | trying to stick to good game design |
| 3167s | early if you're in shallows or like sort |
| 3170s | of near like land we're probably just |
| 3173s | going to have wind and no current and |
| 3175s | even then the wind is probably going to |
| 3176s | be quite small to get players used to it |
| 3177s | as a coming into the skill and then when |
| 3179s | they move to open C maybe the wind is |
| 3181s | getting a bit more and uh currents are |
| 3184s | now a thing or you're maybe dealing with |
| 3186s | them in isolation or we don't have high |
| 3187s | wind with strong currents but when you |
| 3190s | get to the deep sea now we've got like |
| 3192s | everything sort of coming together and |
| 3194s | while that might sound like it's getting |
| 3196s | like a lot to deal with in deep sea and |
| 3198s | deep sea might just become frustrating |
| 3199s | the thing that we would emphasize is |
| 3201s | that a colossal ship has more facilities |
| 3203s | to be able to deal with things right |
| 3205s | you're not a small robot in deep sea |
| 3208s | necessarily struggling to deal with both |
| 3210s | wind and current and not having options |
| 3212s | a colossal ship would have more options |
| 3214s | potentially for you know like magically |
| 3217s | Enchanted sails that react to the wind |
| 3219s | or something or |
| 3221s | um or at least like partially react to |
| 3223s | the wind or hey like I've got this |
| 3226s | really massive like ship with a |
| 3227s | reinforced Hull that like and you could |
| 3230s | just think of like ways that sailing |
| 3232s | could could really just have things to |
| 3234s | help you deal with it I think one of the |
| 3235s | things that we've played around like how |
| 3237s | does magic play into it right if you |
| 3239s | just magically Enchanted something can |
| 3240s | it help lessen a mechanic or circumvent |
| 3242s | a mechanic and is that if that's part of |
| 3244s | the skills progression that just feels |
| 3246s | really good to be yes I reach this |
| 3248s | breakpoint and now 82 sailing now I've |
| 3251s | unlocked this thing that makes my life a |
| 3253s | bit easier to help deal with the other |
| 3255s | thing means I can focus on other things |
| 3257s | to see so I think that |
| 3259s | um all of these sort of ideas |
| 3261s | culminating uh to me like sailing as a |
| 3264s | skill like it it provides so much room |
| 3267s | in terms of like unlocks and uh things |
| 3270s | you can progressively feel like as |
| 3271s | you're training the skill either your |
| 3273s | player is getting better at dealing with |
| 3275s | it or your ship itself you're helping to |
| 3278s | uh like sort of improve is getting |
| 3280s | better at dealing with it |
| 3283s | awesome I think from this conversation |
| 3285s | it's so clear that this is so much more |
| 3287s | than what sailing was originally |
| 3289s | proposed to be back way back when and I |
| 3292s | do want to make it clear to the the |
| 3293s | comments in chat like this isn't just |
| 3295s | what sailing is this is just the |
| 3298s | navigational mechanics of serving we |
| 3300s | still have four game plan system Loops |
| 3302s | reward space skill integration area |
| 3305s | integration law that is all still to |
| 3307s | come and that's what we're going to |
| 3310s | build on |
| 3311s | um this this navigational mechanics |
| 3313s | discussion is is before kind of |
| 3315s | foundation that we're building upon so |
| 3317s | this isn't the entirety of the skill |
| 3319s | this is just kind of where it begins |
| 3322s | um and I just want to stress that like |
| 3324s | if you do have um comments like |
| 3327s | constructive criticism we are all for it |
| 3329s | we want to hear it we want to want to |
| 3331s | hear what you have to say |
| 3333s | um but make sure you that you let us |
| 3334s | know what um what constructive feedback |
| 3337s | that is that we can change it we can |
| 3340s | um build upon it and make it even better |
| 3342s | and improve for you |
| 3345s | um right with only a few minutes left to |
| 3347s | go yeah I want to touch on that a little |
| 3349s | bit because there's still a lot of like |
| 3351s | sentiment around hey sailing isn't a |
| 3353s | skill I think that's something that |
| 3355s | people still go this all looks really |
| 3357s | good I'm enjoying what you're seeing out |
| 3359s | there is content |
| 3361s | but it's not a skill and that was one of |
| 3363s | the reasons why we wanted core gameplay |
| 3366s | to come first initially when we'd had a |
| 3367s | look at it right because being a skill |
| 3370s | involves having like a good core |
| 3372s | gameplay Loop and progression systems it |
| 3374s | ties into rewards and we were very eager |
| 3376s | to sort of nip that in the bud and sort |
| 3379s | of just say hey here is how sailing can |
| 3382s | be a skill and this is what it makes our |
| 3384s | skill and to really make that convincing |
| 3386s | case but player feedback was we want to |
| 3389s | we just can't understand how being on |
| 3392s | the ship at Sea is going to work we |
| 3393s | can't understand what that is are you a |
| 3395s | ship is it wasd is it instanced all of |
| 3399s | these kind of things we were like right |
| 3400s | we have two problems that we need to |
| 3402s | solve to convince people that this is |
| 3406s | truly going to be an amazing piece of |
| 3407s | content to sort of you know we know |
| 3409s | there's already a ton of people who love |
| 3410s | sailing but there are people who are |
| 3412s | skeptical and that's where we said well |
| 3414s | it's okay to be skeptical allow us to |
| 3416s | bring you along the journey and to |
| 3417s | explain it so we have to do it piecemeal |
| 3420s | though we cannot drop massive amounts of |
| 3423s | exposition and gameplay and all of these |
| 3427s | details because then it'll just get lost |
| 3428s | so we've done navigation there's going |
| 3431s | to be a Blog with a ton more information |
| 3432s | coming out tomorrow and some other uh |
| 3434s | cool assets that are accompanying that |
| 3436s | but give us a chance to get into core |
| 3439s | gameplay and rewards if you're still |
| 3440s | skeptical about sailing being a skill |
| 3442s | because that is the moment where we |
| 3444s | impact that so yeah I understand what |
| 3447s | players might not think it's a skill |
| 3448s | right now that is fine but I think that |
| 3452s | I would just ask people to |
| 3454s | with us on this journey so keep your |
| 3456s | mind open and if at the end of |
| 3458s | refinement you're still not convinced |
| 3459s | it's a skill |
| 3461s | like let us know like what would it take |
| 3463s | to what would it take to make you feel |
| 3464s | like it's a skill like that's that is |
| 3466s | really valuable feedback and information |
| 3467s | but it's something that we need we're |
| 3470s | we're going to get to that's what we're |
| 3472s | trying to overcome and sort of make you |
| 3475s | believe because we definitely see it as |
| 3477s | a skill internally we absolutely see |
| 3479s | that sailing is content worthy of being |
| 3481s | a skill we just |
| 3483s | but it's the problem is it's all in our |
| 3485s | heads internally and what we've shared |
| 3486s | in Eternal columns we just need to get |
| 3488s | that out to you guys as the players so |
| 3490s | yeah uh hopefully that kind of addresses |
| 3493s | that because I didn't want to just leave |
| 3494s | that as a |
| 3495s | but it was such a prevalent thing I |
| 3497s | guess to chat from him |
| 3501s | absolutely |
| 3503s | um yeah I don't want to come across as |
| 3505s | dismissive to anyone when they when they |
| 3507s | give feedback and I I don't want to make |
| 3509s | them feel as though their feedback isn't |
| 3511s | valued |
| 3512s | um so if you aren't a fan yet absolutely |
| 3516s | fine I would urge you guys to join the |
| 3518s | Discord and and send us your feedback |
| 3520s | and just explain to us what we can do to |
| 3523s | improve the skill if if you're not a fan |
| 3525s | at the moment I hope that the demo there |
| 3527s | approves a lot of people's |
| 3529s | misconceptions perhaps wrong maybe have |
| 3531s | a second look at the skill |
| 3534s | um but let us know what you like let us |
| 3535s | know what you don't like |
| 3537s | um we'll spam the Discord Link at the |
| 3538s | end of the stream I think you can get it |
| 3540s | with exclamation mark Discord |
| 3542s | um but yeah the whole point of this new |
| 3544s | process is to shape it with you |
| 3547s | um to get people that may not be on |
| 3549s | board no pun intended on board and I did |
| 3553s | see a comment about Shamanism as well we |
| 3555s | did say in a blog post that we were |
| 3557s | going to be looking at refining |
| 3559s | Shamanism no matter the outcome of |
| 3561s | sailing |
| 3562s | um so that shouldn't be a concern at |
| 3564s | this stage but we're focusing on |
| 3566s | refining sailing because of the fact |
| 3568s | that this is the skill we've chosen to |
| 3570s | move forward from the skill pictures |
| 3572s | stage so |
| 3573s | um thank you so much chat |
| 3575s | um I think we are ready to round off the |
| 3578s | stream |
| 3579s | um thank you to our wonderful panel |
| 3581s | Kieran husky nin if any final thoughts |
| 3583s | before we close off the Stream |
| 3586s | just make sure to read the blog tomorrow |
| 3588s | uh we've tried to cover as much |
| 3591s | information about navigation as we can |
| 3593s | through this format but the primary |
| 3595s | focus of this stream was to highlight |
| 3596s | this really amazing Tech demo that was |
| 3599s | done by the engine team uh so there |
| 3601s | should be a lot more about navigational |
| 3603s | mechanics coming up over the next few |
| 3605s | days so please keep changing please keep |
| 3607s | in tune for that if you watch the stream |
| 3609s | you still don't even have all the |
| 3611s | information about navigation and that |
| 3612s | just sort of hopefully reinforces what I |
| 3614s | was saying by we've got a lot to cover |
| 3618s | what you're saying is as an amazing |
| 3621s | foundation and the next stuff that comes |
| 3623s | up in the next couple of weeks will be |
| 3626s | well all right now how does your |
| 3627s | character actually gain XP how does your |
| 3629s | character get better at sailing what do |
| 3631s | you do to train sailing what do you do |
| 3633s | when you're out at Sea and and so on all |
| 3635s | this gameplay stuff that will really |
| 3638s | deliver on the this is the skill element |
| 3640s | I think will be coming then |
| 3643s | um but first we had to work out how do |
| 3646s | you move around the ocean and all these |
| 3648s | basic fundamentals that you don't have |
| 3651s | to do on land because walking's already |
| 3653s | there right we're kind of going to |
| 3654s | establish this basic framework and I |
| 3657s | think it's incredible to have what we've |
| 3659s | got |
| 3661s | um and you'll see the video again I |
| 3663s | believe and if you haven't there's the |
| 3665s | YouTube link in the chat as well but |
| 3666s | like that it's the very early prototype |
| 3669s | of what this could be who knows what |
| 3672s | water might look like who knows what the |
| 3673s | boats themselves might look like all |
| 3675s | this stuff is to come and it's super |
| 3677s | exciting because this is the start of |
| 3679s | that Journey really |
| 3681s | yeah |
| 3683s | I agree with everything said I think um |
| 3685s | I think sailing as a skill is like |
| 3688s | it sounds quite simple and hopefully we |
| 3691s | can get it to play in quite a simple way |
| 3693s | but as you know everything that husky |
| 3695s | was talking about there's a lot of depth |
| 3697s | for us to explore there which is really |
| 3699s | really cool |
| 3702s | absolutely |
| 3705s | awesome all right we will round off |
| 3707s | we'll say goodbye with a |
| 3708s | um the MP4 that we showed at the |
| 3711s | beginning the demo make sure to give it |
| 3713s | a like And subscribe on our YouTube |
| 3714s | channel if you want to if you're feeling |
| 3716s | generous |
| 3717s | um and the final words for me is just |
| 3718s | that we would like to thank you so far |
| 3720s | for your feedback |
| 3722s | um even getting to this place hasn't |
| 3723s | been possible without all of your |
| 3725s | feedback |
| 3726s | um we really enjoy engaging with you |
| 3728s | um shaping the skill with you |
| 3731s | um and we're genuinely excited for |
| 3732s | what's to come so thank you so so much |
| 3735s | um thank you to all the positivity as |
| 3737s | well in chat we see it we appreciate it |
| 3739s | it makes all the hard work worth it |
| 3742s | um and when the blog releases I'm aiming |
| 3744s | for tomorrow it may be Wednesday not |
| 3746s | sure yet but when that blog releases |
| 3748s | please do let us know what you think |
| 3749s | about it |
| 3751s | um we are open to making changes |
| 3753s | um so yeah please do send your love and |
| 3755s | constructive feedback |
| 3758s | um and yeah I I heard someone burfing |
| 3761s | but I think that was someone behind the |
| 3763s | scenes |
| 3764s | yeah |
| 3765s | really threw me off I'm sorry |
| 3768s | um |
| 3775s | play the clip |
| 3779s | hail I'm modnin joined by mod Elena to |
| 3783s | give you a first look at our early |
| 3785s | exploration into sailing Tech |
| 3787s | as you hopefully know by now the old |
| 3790s | school team is working on a brand new |
| 3793s | skill and shaping it with the community |
| 3795s | during refinement |
| 3798s | sailing was taken forward as the first |
| 3801s | skill we'd like to refine further so our |
| 3804s | first step will be nailing down the |
| 3806s | navigational mechanics of sailing |
| 3809s | before we get started Please be aware |
| 3812s | that this demo is purely a technical |
| 3814s | showcase there are no gameplay mechanics |
| 3816s | here and the art is far from final but |
| 3819s | this video is intended to show you more |
| 3821s | about the tech and challenge some of the |
| 3823s | misconceptions players might have around |
| 3825s | what is technically possible for us to |
| 3827s | do so let's jump into it |
| 3831s | boats are a familiar Concept in old |
| 3833s | school they're all over the place once |
| 3836s | you start looking from Tiny row boats to |
| 3839s | freminic longboats to huge Merchant |
| 3842s | vessels that travel continents |
| 3845s | you've seen them you've boarded them |
| 3847s | you've smuggled rum on them so |
| 3850s | captaining them shouldn't feel out of |
| 3852s | place as a skill you could master |
| 3855s | sailing in Old School needs to feel well |
| 3858s | integrated intuitive and familiar and |
| 3862s | that's where our technical exploration |
| 3864s | started |
| 3865s | we already have boats we just need to |
| 3868s | make them move |
| 3870s | here you can see a small boat with the |
| 3872s | body and a sail and a player stood |
| 3874s | inside |
| 3875s | that player is able to do regular |
| 3877s | interactions while on the boat and see |
| 3879s | other players doing activities on the |
| 3881s | dock this player is also in control of |
| 3884s | the boat and can use point-and-click |
| 3886s | movement to Traverse the waters |
| 3888s | please note this movement and control |
| 3889s | scheme are not final but we're using it |
| 3892s | here to demonstrate how a player can be |
| 3894s | part of a moving entity |
| 3897s | that boats a little cramped though |
| 3899s | let's give our guy a bigger vessel |
| 3902s | this one's got quite a bit more room |
| 3905s | maybe to carry a treasure chest or some |
| 3908s | fishing supplies or enough space to |
| 3911s | bring your pants |
| 3913s | maybe this boat is a bit more durable or |
| 3916s | can carry more cargo |
| 3919s | the specifics of what utilities boats |
| 3921s | will have is not decided yet but they |
| 3925s | can contain interactable objects like |
| 3927s | anywhere else in the game |
| 3930s | we also think sailing could make for a |
| 3932s | fun group activity we want to let you |
| 3934s | invite your friends aboard so you can |
| 3936s | sail the high seas together |
| 3938s | on even larger ships you might need a |
| 3940s | whole crew working together to man the |
| 3942s | Cannons Hoist the sails keep look out |
| 3944s | and steer safely through the waves we're |
| 3947s | able to have groups of players aboard |
| 3949s | boats which could open up lots of |
| 3951s | gameplay opportunities for multiplayer |
| 3953s | sailing content |
| 3955s | what did you guys think we'd love to |
| 3958s | hear your feedback in the comments below |
| 3960s | or if you're watching this live tell us |
| 3964s | in the chat |
| 3965s | we'd once again like to say that this |
| 3967s | video footage is purely a technical demo |
| 3971s | the core gameplay details art rewards |
| 3974s | basically everything that makes a skill |
| 3976s | a skill is still to come |
| 3979s | knowing how navigation works at its core |
| 3982s | is really important as it feeds into all |
| 3986s | the other aspects of the skill |
| 3988s | we know how important it is to ensure |
| 3991s | that navigation feels fun engaging and |
| 3994s | intuitive across all devices so now that |
| 3998s | you're able to visualize yourself on a |
| 4000s | ship with your homies what kinds of |
| 4002s | feedback do you want to send our way |
| 4005s | foreign |
