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10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by iamcherry

I’d like more details on the claws, wondering how they stack up against current spec weapons and if they’ll have a use case (higher dps than claws if the monster survives for full burn duration, lower if they will die before the burn)

Or if they’re just bad claws and basically only useful as an Ironmans first spec weapon that isn’t chally. Either way it would be cool if yall could put together a dps chart and show how it stacks up to claws and voidwaker in places like maiden, bloat, vard, sote, kephri, zebak, etc

It's mainly meant to sit in a place in terms of usefulness and cost between DDS (a 17k weapon) and the Dragon Claws (a 100m Weapon).

We might be dropping some spreadsheets for those of you who like the numbers.

EDIT: Linking my comment with a cut section of the blog explaining how claws work - https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1czk7d3/comment/l5gy8q4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by HappyZuk

Will the scorching bow be able to use dragon arrows?

Yes, it will be able to use Dragon Arrows.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by pzoDe

Will the burning claws special roll against an opponent's slash defence?

And does the Firelight upgrade the Arclight itself or is it completely separate?

I would prefer to see a slightly higher requirement for making the weapons, like level 80 perhaps, but otherwise it all looks really good upon first glance.

Can't wait for a new end-game quest, super excited

  • The Claws will roll against the type the claws are on (i.e. Slash (Slach) against Slash Defence)
  • Upgrade, Synapse added to a charged Arclight to create Firelight
  • We can pass that feedback on, but kept it a decent requirement as it's something we don't do that often, to gauge feedback.

EDIT: Changing the Synapse comment as I've been informed you upgrade a charged Arclight with the Synapse.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by JTwizzie

does this mean god alignments are being scrapped?

We will be discussing God Alignments in the near future.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Me2217

Would the claws burning effect stack with the Atlatl's burn effect?

Yes :)

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Raisoshi

You can't leave us hanging like that, what teleport was it that you gave up on proposing?

Essentailly, we are discussing adding some sort of teleport to near the TDs but we thought it didn't need to be polled at this point as it's a new place you'll be travelling to.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Reach_4the_sky

Seems a shame to completely toss aside the arclight when there were some talks about “corrupting” it with ancient shards so it stops using charges. Still, perhaps integrating it with creating Firelight somehow would be neat

Just to clarify, the idea currently is to use the Synapse on a fully Charged Arclight to create Firelight. If that's not clear in the blog, we can make it so :)

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Raisoshi

Yeah, it's also missing the accuracy buff from claws so I wonder if it would truly be better than a dds lol, wanna see some calcs

So, for some context, Dragon Claws are weird. There was a part in the blog I was going to add but we stripped it back to not overload people, but for clarity:

On that note, we wanted to give you some context before we talked about the new reward. We realised when discussing this rewards, we've never actually spoken about how the Special Attack of Dragon Claws work. It rolls damage uniquely to say the least but it's important context we assure you!

Even though there's multiple hitsplats dealt with the Dragon Claws' Special Attack, they are not rolled seperately. Let's take a look at the process of Claws:

Roll Accuracy:

If this hits, deal 200% damage split over 4 attacks/hitsplats.

If it missed. Roll again.

2nd Accuracy Roll:

If this hits, deal 150% damage split over 4 attacks/hitsplats.

If it missed. Roll again.

3rd Accuracy Roll:

If this hits, deal 100% damage split over 4 attacks/hitsplats.

If it missed. Roll again.

4th Accuracy Roll:

If this hits, deal 50% damage split over 4 attacks/hitsplats.

If it missed. Deal no damage or a few 'flavour' damage.

https://preview.redd.it/gzntwykwvd2d1.png?width=1522&format=png&auto=webp&s=2107d3ee72b23a661b043efb828b12754f171bc2

With that in mind, the Burning Claws will have a special attack that works similar to this, although with the Burning Claws... missing the first time isn't a bad thing! Instead the Claws will have three chances for you to hit with reduced power for each; 175%, 115.5% and 57.5% respectively. Although, with each roll missed, the chance to burn your target increases! Let's look at the Claws the same way we looked at the Dragon Claws Spec:

Roll Accuracy:

If this hits, deal 175% damage split over 3 attacks/hitsplats.

Roll 33% chance for Burn for each hitsplat

If it missed. Roll again.

2nd Accuracy Roll:

If this hits, deal 115.5% damage (rounded down split over 3 attacks/hitsplats.)

Roll 66% chance for Burn for each hitsplat

If it missed. Roll again.

3rd Accuracy Roll:

If this hits, deal 57.5% damage (rounded down split over 3 attacks/hitsplats.)

Roll guranteed chance for Burn for each hitsplat

If it missed. Deal no damage and no Burn effect.

You can expand here for a chart of how the Special Attack works:

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Middle_War_9117

Can we get clarification if Firelight works on Duke or not? it was on the blog and then removed so trying to see if that was a typo? or if thats intentional

https://preview.redd.it/41bitdehnd2d1.png?width=1066&format=png&auto=webp&s=75fa182cd97ce632890f40a7c98a9620d3d1fcf2

It does work on Duke, but I felt the wording of that sentance didn't sit right with the Duke's resistances.

10 months ago - /u/JagexRice - Direct link

Originally posted by SoAndSo_TheUglyOne

Can a Jmod clarify on the Burning claws if each hitsplat has a chance to inflict burn? Since it's a 30% spec wep and you could spec 3x, does that mean you have 9 chances to inflict burn, 3 chances at 33% accuracy, 3 chances at 66% accuracy and 3 chances at 100% accuracy?

This weapon works like dragon claws, in that it rolls multiple accuracy rolls and has different outcomes based on how many fails. If dclaws fails 2 of its 4 accuracy rolls, it does between 50-150% of its damage, for example. If you hit fail no rolls, you do between 100% and 200% of your damage.

Bclaws works the same way, the more accuracy rolls it fails, the less damage it deals. However, the burn effect works the opposite way round. The more accuracy rolls you fail (Without failing all of them) the higher your burn chance. If you miss 2 rolls and hit the 3rd, you have 100% burn chance on each hit. If you hit the 1st, you have 33% burn chance on each hit.

We didn't include this all in the blog post since Dragon Claws are not very well understood by most people, and are honestly quite confusing. The simple way to think about it is this: Burning claws hit 3 times, the higher the enemy's defence, the more likely you are to burn them with each of those hits. You can only ever apply 3 burn, because burning claws only hit 3 times.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by [deleted]

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It does :)

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Bashram_

Just to clarify with the new staff, will it double the demonbane spell bonuses WITH the mark of darkness? Wiki mentions dark demonbane has 20% accuracy boost and 40% accuracy boost with mark of darkness. Will the new staff give the spell 40% accuracy boost and 80% accuracy boost with mark of darkness?

It will double the effects of Mark of Darkness.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by Urgasain

Will Firelight be storable in the Catacombs stash and interchangeably usable for the clue step?

Yeah, we will more than likely let you store this Unit.

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by About-40-Ninjas

Honeslty great post, my feedback:

The audio read, at 2:09, there is a stumble in the sentence, "sword at your side". This was not edited out after you did a retake of the sentence.

I stopped listening immediately, downvoted the post, and came here to report you to Jagex personally.

I hope u/Jagex will take appropirate action to address this.

What a snitch :smh:

10 months ago - /u/JagexSarnie - Direct link

Originally posted by AGuyNamedSparre

/u/jagexSarnie will the Ignited staff be 1h or 2h?

It will be 1h.

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It’s time for a first look at the rewards from While Guthix Sleeps!