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Originally posted by wheresmyspacebar2

When they finalllyyyyy moved away from talking about spite voting and how it's a thing holding PVP back, there were good points raised that should have been spoken more about.

They spent far too long just going on about spite voting and just came across as sour.

It was really REALLY telling when they were discussing the sorta 'PVP' they get up to now at the start of the stream and the main 2 places were outside the entrance of rev caves or in the Wildy slayer caves. One of the 'positives' raised about Wildy Slayer Caves was that even though it's Multi, very little teams go in there and it's 'only' slayers.

Iirc, one of the Jmods even said they went there now because they used to kill people venny but now it was bad because people 'Just tank in Karils and Bulwark or call their friends in'.

Like they said, they get annoyed when people with better gear than them logs onto them, they don't wanna fight and will just get a freeze off and then log off under. Yet they'll get up in arms about how dare someone not even trying to fight, use a tank shield and be able to run away.

Hey!

So I think a lot of this comment is aimed at me, and it's sometimes hard for me to properly/fully articulate in a livestream with 6 people because of my ADHD - I constantly get worried I'm taking up too much time or that what I'm saying might not be particularly relevant etc. So wanted to add a little context that maybe got lost in the medium:

I should've been clearer when prefacing, but as somebody whose main experience was with BH, I'm not the best PKer. When talking about south caves, the point I raised was that the standard of player there is - in my experience - a little lower than at north caves. For somebody playing on pures/med levels, I generally have fights that feel a little more my speed than I would at north caves.

Wildy Slayer Caves are an interesting one, the point I was trying to make is that even though they're multi it's fairly uncommon to see a team log in so it's not a huge risk even as a solo PKer (not that I mind if a team logs in, it's multi after all and it's what I signed up for!) A lot of people at wildy caves do have pals to call in or are pretty good at anti-PKing (same with rev killers at south caves!) but it's not a bad place to try your luck if you're not great at PKing and don't mind the odd team here and there. It's honestly one of the places I've had more success finding people in pure brackets, and a lot of them are chilling with cballs, rev weapons, avarice etc. so while most people escape (because I'm bad) it still only takes one or two for me to recoup supplies and maybe a death or two! Plus it's fun to have to tank test every now and then if the squad rolls through.

Venenatis was something I explained pretty poorly but it's purely anecdotal. I used to hop around there on my pure a little while ago and find a fair few people prepared to anti (and who were pretty good at it imo), these days I find less of them and more players at 126 with people ready in multi. Which is totally fine, because it's the wilderness and anything goes - if anything it's pretty much superb protection! Just for me, I don't often PK on max/main and find a little less success there these days - but I'm not mad about it, it's what the wilderness is all about!

Just wanted to clarify a few things that maybe got lost, and to reassure that I'm not 'up in arms' about people tanking in proper tank gear and running, merely that I'm not skilled enough or properly equipped to be able to deal with that and it is what it is!

Hope that maybe cleared a few things up about me personally, apologies if anything I said might have left a bad taste in your mouth - hope you can understand that it's not always easy to fully convey these kinds of topics in a stream made up of 6 people.

Have a fab week beast, hope your RNG is blessed and the gains are strong!