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1s hello and welcome to this week's
3s old-school QA I'm joined on couch by
6s from right to left we have mod G mod ash
9s on my right we have mod rock hello and
13s my Bruno hello we've got to say hello I
20s am of course mod gambit and I'm hosting
22s this week for the first time please be
24s gentle in the chat smiley faces and on
29s the chat we have of course mod R I so
32s any questions you guys have
34s send them his way and we'll try and
36s guess what those included so first off
40s just a quick reminder that premier club
41s is still active if you're looking for
43s details about that exclus sorry
46s exclamation mark membership in the chat
47s will bring that up
49s it's our currently best-value membership
52s package that we offer so take a look we
57s also have extra mesh so I cancel an
60s exclamation mark exclamation mark vinyl
62s for the vinyls which are now on the
66s merch store you'll see the classic
67s soundtrack and the orchestral collection
70s are available now and I think next week
73s we'll have them in local stores rather
75s than just on the merch store so have a
78s look at those as well
80s in the same news post you'll find
82s information on the Deadman permadeath
85s beta which is going out tomorrow in the
87s update that'd be a chance for you guys
89s to play around with the changes that
91s we've made and have a look at the
92s arena's absolutely so one of the
98s requests we had a lot for the dead band
102s finale was to bring 256 players rather
105s than 128 into the 1v1 section because
108s hey I guess people like 1v1 and why not
112s so we've had a go at doing it the thing
115s is with the best weather the world we
117s can't test that kind of thing in
118s certainly very effectively we want most
122s a lot of accounts and had a go but some
124s some think it's functioning but we'd
128s like your help
128s so tomorrow afternoon I think we're
132s looking at 3 o'clock
133s you TC yes that's correct cool um we're
137s gonna open up her one of the tournament
139s worlds the ones which don't safety
140s profile and you guys can hop on that
145s first-come first-served and while we're
149s not running it as a competition it's a
152s test
153s we're not they joke about people going
156s into this industry to play games all day
158s but sometimes testing is not about the
161s gameplay what we need is a lot of your
164s bodies in the Deadman world so that we
168s can see what have a coat handles 256 of
170s you what happens if it tries to move all
173s those people to the arenas are we going
176s to hit the infinite loop detector
177s because it's got too much code to run
178s and make it crash I think not but I'd
181s like to find out before the finale you
183s know so even if you don't get to you
187s know really play dead man you really
189s will be hoping there's quite a lot of
190s you and come along and play and be there
193s and hopefully we'll get the last 256
199s through the 1v1 stages and you can have
203s a look at mod West's rather nice
205s graphics normally we just do a kind of
208s repaint for the bit for the different
210s finales because we don't need to spend a
213s lot of graphics time remake remapping
215s the whole thing for this one since we
217s needed 128 separate arenas for the first
220s round of it mod West has done a pretty
222s elaborate job and it looks to me like
225s he's taking some ideas from what he did
227s for PvP all-stars to make rather more
231s epic finale arena than we've had before
232s he's looked so women changed the design
235s a bit well um
237s previously we had the finale would take
239s place in a walled arena with you know a
242s fairly high walls he's got a new design
246s now that will hopefully give four other
247s better views I look forward to seeing
250s what you think of it and like I say it's
254s not like playing dead man you hit you'll
257s be doing it to test the thing to check
259s the functionality of the specific code
261s that's changed we're not trying to test
263s every other thing that's involved in
265s dead man like
266s you know the XP tracking the behavior
269s view log acting again it's a no save
272s world won the tournament worlds so every
274s time you log out then you'll get reset
276s completely and we don't expect to allow
279s login throughout most of the beta
280s because that's not the thing we're
281s focusing on this one yeah yeah that's
285s enough on that topic I'm happy to move
287s on in the chat if you will
288s great thanks a lot ash again exclamation
291s mark Vienna will bring up the post with
292s all the details if you want to get
293s involved with that so next we have
297s something that mod G has been working on
300s what you got for us and I have a soulful
303s lizard to show you guys I've been
308s working on this guy for a week I've been
311s here a week and it's really sweet thank
316s you
316s nothing I was looking good everybody
318s keeps saying cute and I'm like well at
324s least you be doing something beginning
326s the test is gonna keep now I mean that's
330s that from from what we've seen it's like
333s the fact that you've only been here a
334s very short while and you're coming out
335s well you've already got your first NPC
337s it's animating and stuff like that
339s that's a lot of progression in a short
341s time
341s Thanks thank you I was really excited
343s with this actually because sort of my
346s first day goes said right you're gonna
348s make a sofa lizard our idea is for it to
350s be like a salamander but you can kind of
352s do whatever you want and I took a lot of
353s inspiration from like geckos
356s you know like like leopard tail geckos
359s and sort of something a bit more like
361s thick and it's like sulfurous and a bit
363s chunky well we've certainly come a long
366s way in the graphics budget from the
367s sulfur clouds of the soul for my yeah
369s those I'm not they're not recolored
373s those are just vampires we kill one of
378s the vampires it turns into a cloud of
379s dust and goes away to rejuvenate
382s I didn't even repaint it those are
384s that's what you've got in the sofa the
386s color was already perfect for what work
391s well yeah we with Ghost and Alfie having
395s so much to do for the actual terrain we
398s had to kind of make do with what we've
399s got
399s this is definitely coming a very long
402s way for further on the mat course so
406s safe to say this is one of the first
407s things you've been working on since
409s joining us well yeah the first thing
412s Monday and have you found it so far yeah
415s I'm really enjoying it yeah the
416s optimization process was pretty crazy
419s with the new tools to learn but really
422s enjoying it yeah new tools tools have
427s been around for 15 years I've got some
429s ancient technology it's a chance to me
430s and powered by floppy disks and journals
433s in the day the spam on the stream will
436s be dev tools dev tools dev tools coz so
439s we were limited by what we could do in
440s 2013 by the lack of dev tools having got
443s that 2007 s always recreated for us
445s we've now got the problem that they are
447s 2007 tools and that's what they were
450s like sorry yes I think I've taught them
456s the phrase useless rocking about the
458s same way yes 20 2016 now how time flies
463s right so mod Rock
466s the other thing were the other highlight
468s of the updates
469s besides the permadeath beta and we'd
472s like to tell us yeah so a project that
474s myself and mod Lenny have been working
476s on for what seems like an eternity and
479s coming to you guys tomorrow is the
481s long-awaited collection log what this
484s will do is as you go through you kill
487s bosses and such essentially it'll track
490s what you get as drops and there are a
493s few small caveats with it which we have
496s explained before but I'll happily
497s explain again anything that is tradable
502s even if you own it even if you're an
505s Ironman it will not be displayed in the
509s system the reasons for that being that
511s if we were to do that kind of thing we
516s would be extending the whole project by
518s six months to a year - in order to
521s accommodate all of that kind of stuff
523s so unfortunately Ironman will have to
526s get the items again if they want to
528s complete the collection log but again
531s that's only for the
533s tradeable versions also you'll see there
537s is all the untradable items like
538s minigames pets you can see on the screen
541s now the metamorphic dust if you've got
546s them or if you've used them so if you've
547s got they on trans mobs and whatever they
549s will automatically be filled in because
551s they cannot be traded with other players
554s yeah he got the back to their bosses
557s thing everything's on there there's a
560s few gems that I thought was maybe a
563s little bit mean but I put them in anyway
565s and also some things that I kind of like
567s to highlight some of the content the is
571s less used in the game known cooking is
574s on there for one good trying to get the
577s min cake the seed pod to the scarf and
579s the glasses the evil chicken outfit
584s which you acquire from sacrificing God
587s eggs in the wood cut and killed is there
589s as well which is fun while and then
592s we've got things like czars because
594s they've got a decent unique table
598s revenants general Slayer stuff so things
602s you get from superior's like the dust
604s and mist staffs etc there's probably
607s about 1100 items on this list yeah that
612s we've rather a lot of things if Lenny
613s were meant to be tracking all of the
615s ones that iron people already owned I
617s think he well I'm not sure what the
620s server would do if he tried that much
621s code on it or yeah I don't know there's
625s something else I wanted to say but an
626s outcome over I'll probably remember in
628s two minutes about the quantities of them
629s because the PS if I didn't okay so some
632s items will have a quantity capped at one
634s such as things like the castle walls
637s armors void and that's because generally
641s you can sell those back for reduced
643s costs and then buy the next one
646s therefore we capped it that way things
648s like trouble brewing you can buy as like
650s you'll go up to 255 because you can't
653s trade them back in and 255 is the
655s general limit anything that's considered
657s stackable like vials of blood scales etc
659s goes up to 65535 so
665s and there's definitely a lot to do in
667s there well thank you very much more rock
671s something has just occurred to me which
673s I don't think we have discussed yet is
674s have you got any plans for rewards for
677s players you've managed to somehow
678s complete the whole thing I will be very
681s surprised if someone completes the whole
683s thing because it contains every piece of
684s gilded and every piece of Third Age
686s possible from clues girls do complete
690s the whole thing you win a warm fuzzy
693s feeling of satisfaction inside all right
700s that question then of course I'm gonna
703s move on to the questions that have been
705s asked by the community the first one is
708s a bit of a touchy one but I think it's
710s something that did need addressing
711s it was the most up voted one on euro 7
715s read it so burnt fish asks can we
718s address the recent polling issues the
720s poll until it barely fails spell book
723s drama is more apparent than ever because
725s of that is now more apparent than ever
727s that poll results should not be released
729s until the poll is closed
731s so this is something I did want to talk
734s about just to sort of clear the air a
736s bit I think the first thing we need to
740s say is our own sort of personal opinions
742s and beliefs on how the game
744s quote-unquote should be or what we would
746s like does not impact sort of well the
751s polls essentially we don't close them
753s early or close them late to try and make
754s a change happen the repoing was never
756s intended to make that happen it's not
758s like we've got the secrets shrunken icon
762s Illuminati paying those extra if we can
764s even small some players may seem to
767s think we have this special agenda on it
770s that said the players who objected to
773s the size change before because of the
775s skill gap in PvP their point was quite
778s legitimate yes my understanding is the
782s way we've left it at the minute
784s broken to looking at workarounds for
787s that as and when it's appropriate
789s because obviously the way went this time
792s wasn't ideal and
794s uncomfortable with us committing to that
795s one being on the next all of you would
797s like to it's not the thing we talked
801s about where it resizes but not in PvP
804s zones hmm is something I'm very happy to
807s work on sooner rather than later yes
809s well for me I seems like quite a
810s reasonable um fix quite quite fix for it
814s it's a compromise it does not deliver
816s everything that some people would like
818s and we regret that but it also hopefully
820s preserves something that's very
822s important to a lot of other people okay
825s I'm gonna move on to the second question
827s but hopefully alleviate some concerns
830s so settle down Willis asks could the
834s fire of unseasonal warmth s-- affect the
837s one from making friends with my arm be
839s expanded to the ice path requiring
841s desert treasure to be completed of
842s course to give us access to a new area
844s to kill trolls it could but I think that
848s would also make it the best area because
850s I had a look in there and it's really
852s open it's got quite a lot of trolls in
853s there right now you go to the otters Oh
856s to do it mmm mind if people who've done
859s that quest for those environments and
861s then built this thing which is quite
863s high five making got themselves a new
866s trolling area I mean unless you thought
869s it was like far too good I don't mind it
871s being a new thing to do yeah with those
875s miners mind it's just up to the
877s community don't do this like box I think
880s we'd have to look at it to see if it's
883s multi or single whether you can or
885s cannot but cannons there etc we could
889s restrict it if necessary
890s well quite and I think if we were to put
894s into the players would tell them exactly
895s what we'd do with the area remember to
897s change it cool so sort of maybe yes see
901s what the community think yeah I'm I'm in
904s Douglas says it's a singles area and
905s they ask the question okay there we go
910s des abolish asks well they say let's
913s discuss the development of an old-school
915s exclusive continuation of the ham
917s storyline it surprises me that there is
920s no low or mid-level ham Slayer master
922s even though law wise having a slayer
924s master to exterminate all the
925s is fitting with the faction or could one
928s of the low-level Slayer masters be a
929s secret ham member or sympathizer I quite
933s like this one actually
934s especially from a law perspective it's
936s funny what do we think doesn't runescape
944s have continuations for Xanax storyline
946s well they've got land of the goblins and
948s chosen commander and some content beyond
951s that we could have land of the goblins
953s we because it was nearly complete in
958s developments in August 2007 which was
960s our archive point which means we've got
962s the almost complete version of it it's
964s not completable at the moment we mod
966s Nexus how it had look at playing through
968s it in the repository and found that he
972s got a stock on the bit with a goblin
973s temple you just couldn't complete the
975s quest it hadn't been written right yet
976s but we would be able to finish it off
979s integrating into old school launched it
982s it's not been a very popular request
984s partly because it ends I think on a
987s crashing cliffhanger where's Anakin
989s sorry about the spoilers but it's been
990s around for quite a few years sonic
992s climbed into a box and the lid shuts
996s quest complete now for those who don't
999s like sonic berry much maybe that's okay
1001s oh but of all the things we could
1004s recruit we install the old school that
1008s one was quite low down the list I'm also
1011s available by the way path of glory which
1013s would give you I think walked terror
1014s birds and for some reason when we say
1016s that people stopped caring
1018s anywho we could also like the players
1022s actually asked about right something
1023s different heck we could have landed like
1026s goblins and then write something
1028s different to chosen commander where you
1030s get a leak out of the box in a different
1031s way
1031s use lockpick on box possibly or you open
1036s the box again and find that she's now
1037s been squashed flat or Schrodinger's
1039s annek tempting maybe you get an option
1044s for whether she's alive or dead then
1047s that's how you can take a go to a story
1049s on say one if you'd like to alive or two
1052s of you'd like her dead I'm curious join
1057s Han
1058s actually that that is a fair point if I
1062s know there's a lot of talk about between
1066s our law parity with runescape but that
1070s is genuinely a storyline that we could
1072s end at the quest that we have and then
1075s obviously they've gone for the human
1077s side we I mean so for the monster side
1079s we go the humans against monsters to
1082s build our story that way interesting
1084s it's a little inconsistent with her
1086s personality has revealed in the quests
1087s so far but maybe when she gets put in
1089s the box her head could get squished or
1091s something then she becomes a flat-headed
1093s goblin with some different ideas this is
1098s entirely serious escape content design
1101s live well it's up there with the
1104s conversation about how we the world just
1106s had a big bear space so we put a big
1107s bear in the big space we've never really
1113s contradicted rs.3 in any significant
1117s details so far even where edy worked on
1121s taste of freedom it tells a different
1125s story to what you got in legacy of
1127s series but it's the same shape the same
1130s [Music]
1131s kinds of characters doing similar things
1134s you can get the flail thing we were not
1139s trying to deviate too much in that point
1141s case like suc a case wasn't a bad quest
1144s what I'd regret is that we wouldn't be
1146s able to do chosen commander because that
1148s was my favorite quest of all time and no
1149s I didn't write it it was it felt like
1153s I've been playing quests for years and
1155s right see a few quests and suddenly I
1156s saw chosen commander and felt now I'd
1159s see what a quest could be could we make
1161s a chosen commander but from the ham side
1163s and hams chosen commander remarkably
1168s tempting I could see big high war god
1170s thinking a rather good idea to use these
1172s really really aggressive humans instead
1174s of the creatures he's used to moving on
1179s in the chat so I'm getting out to the
1181s next question
1182s border Falcon bolder Falcon asks if
1185s there's any talk of a new agility course
1187s in Zaire Maya ditch or possibly proof in
1189s the future
1191s any variety would be appreciated for the
1194s skill I think we've talked about all
1196s three at one point the mind each one's
1198s very appealing because that area has a
1200s lot of walking around on rooftops
1201s already and a great big long castle wall
1203s that reads me be it and let's face it
1207s there's a lot of dead content there
1209s possibly possibly a chance to include
1212s some agility related rewards if we went
1215s to Asia so I guess you work for making a
1220s lot of graceful KITT then I think with
1226s the agility and people that was talked
1228s about maybe doing something a bit
1230s different instead of having it like high
1231s maybe doing some kind of like
1233s underground or yeah yeah that's cool
1239s shake it like you have to crawl through
1242s trenches and get other things because if
1244s you put your head up too high then you
1245s get shot that or something I mean but
1247s basically we do want to do something
1249s with agility it go at the moment and go
1251s you go from 60 to 90 essentially it's
1254s ears as long as you've done the diary
1256s and just continue teleporting so relic
1258s er barely gets used mmm and the
1261s wilderness only gets used for a couple
1262s of levels yep if you decide to do it
1264s that way and don't want your marks of
1266s gray so there's definitely room for us
1268s to add some variety in there
1270s cool so from Ralph ickis if I'm
1274s pronouncing that correctly says if you
1279s make a new sea slug quest would it come
1281s with a new tier of temple Knight armor
1283s in brackets acolyte if yes if yes what's
1287s that news she could the armor Phil I'm
1289s considering that proselyte is
1290s ridiculously good when it comes to its
1291s prayer bonus I think we sort of agreed
1294s before we probably wouldn't add an extra
1296s tier to the armor but for me the
1299s interesting half this question is plans
1301s with the sea slug storyline people seem
1305s to want a lot of story in this ring I'm
1308s not complaining it's fun to write I
1310s think everyone except possibly Ciaran
1312s likes writing quests and he probably
1314s would if he wanted to you just tell him
1316s there's a boss in it well it did cross
1319s book at one point the idea for making
1321s friends of my arm is that I'd write the
1323s quest and he'd write the boss
1324s then he had a different project to work
1326s on so i wrote the boss but I didn't want
1329s a very hard one anyway so so one of
1332s Karen's penalties might have been a bit
1334s overkill um anywho we do like writing
1339s stories and I also know what the slug
1341s Menace developer had in mind for that
1342s storyline because he told me before we
1345s fired him so we can go there possibly
1349s not with the gratuitous torture
1350s cutscenes that he worked because that I
1354s I didn't see it myself but some pen
1358s stirred from Paul Gower that he'd got a
1362s cutscene of somebody strapped to a board
1365s in the temple Knights dungeons with a
1368s burly temple not just and as the camera
1374s pans away and the players left to wonder
1375s whether they've actually been helping
1377s the good guys on this yeah it was meant
1382s to be an invitation to consider just
1385s what they're doing in the services
1387s saradomin whether saradomin would
1388s approve and what it says about saradomin
1391s if he did runescape isn't that kind of
1393s fantasy game no content we've got that
1402s torturing the known thing in the morning
1404s Zen part what were you doing tickle its
1405s feet I think even who just threatened to
1408s you threatened to feed it now on
1410s something the developer wanted to write
1412s dialogue where you threatened to feed it
1414s nails in prince2
1416s so that it would have diarrhea with
1419s nails in I don't recall whether mod mark
1422s allowed him to put that in the game in
1424s the end we said they didn't have you do
1426s it well now you know that I think I've
1430s heard that story about eight times and
1431s it still makes me laugh and cry at the
1435s same time or they thought it was a bit
1437s dot we had killed the unicorn in on the
1438s ground pass right material gasps asks
1445s can the team
1446s can the team add support for keeping a
1449s players first ninety nine cape untrimmed
1451s I understand there's no solution for
1453s players who have already trimmed their
1455s first 99 cape I would think this would
1457s be a good
1458s four players going forward and give new
1459s players and alts a way to celebrate
1461s their accomplishments I mean they
1463s already can just moderate it can't be
1465s done right there's my understanding
1468s yeah there is though there is a really
1470s awkward way of way it's not really that
1471s awkward it just requires you to have
1472s certain stats and know what you're doing
1474s but I don't like the fact that we're to
1478s get essentially be giving new people
1479s this way of showing something off but
1482s then everyone else that happened to come
1484s before them to help shape the game that
1486s they're now playing eccentric cetera
1488s maybe it's just giving them a middle
1490s finger and going now we've got something
1491s that you don't and it's like separating
1494s the community for no reason that's a lot
1497s of people who'd be excluded from it if
1499s we're excluding you all current
1501s customers with 99s that's a lot of
1504s people I'm sorry to exclude them from a
1506s feature that's meant to be about
1508s celebrating their ninety nine there's a
1510s lot of strong knows in this hat I mean
1512s there's a few on the count just I was
1514s thinking about I was thinking about the
1516s untrimmed caves mmm and I was thinking
1519s what if all of the skill masters where
1523s you buy the cape from if after you have
1525s your second day then I have the option
1527s to sell the untrimmed version in
1529s addition so that you can't have it that
1531s means everyone will be able to have
1533s every version of an untrimmed cape don't
1535s they've owned the 99 yeah but therefore
1537s they're not showing off the fact that it
1539s was their first one that they managed to
1540s keep it which i think is the whole main
1541s point of sure yeah okay although I mean
1543s we just give a toggle for the trim like
1546s we did to the achievement one yeah right
1548s that makes sense to me right so we have
1552s an image for our next question asked by
1555s spine wielder from the rxwiki team he
1558s says seeing mod curse and mod rise
1560s passion for the dragon pickaxes are
1561s sorry for seeing their passion for the
1567s pickaxes old appearance has inspired me
1569s to make this picture I think players
1571s would have preferred the staff of Lights
1572s appearance before evolution of combat
1574s rather than post evolution of combat so
1578s here are the designs before and after
1579s along with the Special Attack
1581s anims yeah well it's worth for special
1584s attack ad and we didn't have any artists
1585s and the team back at that point so we
1587s were really quite limited to what we
1588s could do all right didn't we put stuff
1590s out on Twitter to design
1592s helped design this in the first place we
1593s did was it I can't remember who designed
1597s it but I'm pretty sure we went to there
1601s okay hmm I mean I'm not adverse to it
1610s but the problem is is that when you get
1613s people to go oh I like the old design
1615s and that's other people to go oh I like
1616s the new design and then you don't you
1618s can't please everyone unless you add in
1620s more ornament kits and switch between
1622s them right
1623s well it's whether we'd want to do
1625s something like that or not possibly get
1627s a straw poll for this I'm seeing a lot
1628s of yeses and a lot of nose in chat maybe
1631s we should ask if should the staff of
1634s light be changed to its old appearance
1637s can we have a third option on that for
1639s don't mind because I'm seeing several
1642s athlete chatter swirled low beams know
1643s how strong the views are it seems like
1646s some people are actually enjoying the
1648s fact of having a non winking on it as
1649s well mm-hmm is that another thing we'd
1652s like to and I think where it ties into
1658s would it be that the Ottoman kit is to
1660s make it look like the old version or
1662s have the old as the default and then
1664s Ottoman kit for the club I wouldn't use
1666s though the current version as it is and
1668s the older version be there yeah telling
1671s players whether you were in favor of us
1673s will not your item has changed its
1674s appearance if you wanted to go back
1675s again play this contents of it okay
1680s that's why in-game not buy from yeah
1683s Solomon stuff okay so while that pole is
1688s going move on to the next question from
1690s Baker if there was one feature you could
1693s implement from a different game into old
1696s school what would it be for me I think
1703s it has to like I'm a big RPG like JRPG
1708s fan and a RPGs as well for me I'd have
1711s to be something like Diablos rifting
1713s system okay
1715s Diablo 3 drifting system where it's like
1717s procedurally generated content
1719s almost like dungeoneering but not quite
1722s dungeoneering
1724s that would probably be the way I'd okay
1726s fair Rio any thoughts um we've
1732s desertified and i wasn't very popular
1733s but i do like the way that in games like
1736s The Witcher can have a New Game+ which
1737s is like you finish the game
1739s so for example you get night and
1740s everything and then you can just decide
1742s to start again on the same character but
1744s have like the same stuff and all that so
1746s maybe prestige system although it is
1749s quite unpopular
1750s prestiging a skill but would you do it
1752s at 99 or 200 mil 99 G so not like a
1760s gameplay mechanics
1761s feature so much but just introduce more
1764s colors because I mean you're making
1766s stuff in that the game has like a very
1769s limited range of colors to use so just
1772s add more I'd like a lobby I know that's
1778s controversial because I've seen it
1780s couple many streams before but reason
1783s I'd like it is that some the user flow
1785s of getting people into the game in
1788s between worlds and able to communicate
1789s with each other is you know not ideal
1793s but really not ideal we get requests for
1797s you know making you do things before you
1799s can log into the game for security
1801s currently can't do that because by the
1804s time we can run any code on you at all
1805s you inside the game I just feel would be
1808s able to influence a few things that
1810s people have asked for and smooth out a
1812s few things that people don't people just
1814s got used to being bad like browsing
1818s world let's watch out under friends I
1820s think would be able to improve a lot of
1822s things that people would appreciate and
1825s we wouldn't have to use the lobby in
1828s ways that players would resentence we
1830s like we wouldn't
1833s for example needs to well put fancy
1837s graphics in there that people don't need
1838s bulking out you downloads I think we
1842s could get something worth having in that
1843s regard if we have a lobby of course
1846s that's another large engine job and
1848s we're in scape run logging scripts on
1849s the in their website so when you get
1850s into the lobby lobby you'll basically in
1853s like a stasis where we can run login
1855s scripts and stuff truth be told I don't
1857s know
1858s that much about rs3 slobby but if I
1861s could have something that I've seen
1862s other games and have it work the way I'd
1864s like it so then I'd want one where we
1866s could and some one where we could even
1870s we couldn't edit their say game profile
1872s I think we could get some useful
1875s functionality out of it so the people
1878s saying well I'll leave the message of
1879s the week screen at the moment you're in
1881s the game while you're looking at that
1882s thing I'm very surprised players haven't
1885s been more in favor of us taking it out
1886s so that they log in and they're in the
1888s game immediately rather than with their
1891s screen blanked out and hoping nobody
1892s comes to attack them I think we did to
1895s say were in a few high intensity
1897s situations but I'm showing you you know
1901s the info which got about your membership
1902s your messages new inbox your bank pin
1906s status and message the week advertising
1909s our most recent update doing that in a
1912s lobby feels a lot more sensible to me
1913s he's and where it currently is if we
1915s would do it at all the people spamming
1921s by arielle
1922s we have a battle royale minigame but
1924s it's not a lot of people play it yeah
1927s and they know why yeah we also have a
1929s list of things we'd like to improve
1930s about it of all the things we could
1933s undertake we ended up deciding to spend
1935s the dev table on bounty hunter for 2018
1940s rather than on well that one but the
1944s idea the list of ideas ain't going
1946s anyway so we can totally come back to it
1947s at a later month and I'd be quite glad
1950s to because there's a lot of work gone
1952s into that as you know and I'd be glad to
1956s rejuvenate it okay so the results of the
1962s straw poll are in we asked should the
1964s staff of light to be changed to the pre
1966s EOC version 34% of you don't care so
1970s that's about a third and then 31% voted
1973s yes but as an ornament kit and then as a
1976s straight yes we had 26% and only 9%
1980s saying no go through easily on a pole
1984s yes fairly the ornament kit would
1987s probably pleased to be able to say yes
1989s as well now get it
1992s means that they have to get an item to
1993s use it that's given that whenever we
1996s change items people tend to ask for a
1998s toggle to have it back again the
2000s ornament kits approach does seem better
2002s cool so maybe we'll make a note of that
2004s one and put it in a pole sometime right
2009s so next question from black odd some odd
2014s names come in and today that's black
2017s Otter says so right now you guys try to
2019s release around three big updates every
2021s year updates that are usually new and
2023s exciting content I also noticed I've
2027s also noticed that every week we seem to
2029s be getting backlog creep with the team
2030s saying add it to the backlog only for
2032s the thing to never be heard of again
2033s with that in mind what would you think
2036s of skipping one big update one year and
2037s instead doing a huge backlog clear up
2040s I'm sure that one big update would not
2042s even come close to clearing out the
2043s backlog but a lot of minor tweaks and
2045s small fixes would come a long way in
2046s making old school more fun it's true
2048s that they wouldn't clear out the backlog
2050s and but think about a backlog is that
2052s every idea and we'll probably see some
2057s hundred ideas on a typical day just
2059s browsing social media every idea
2061s conceivably would go in that backlog and
2064s not all are worth it yeah I mean
2069s whatever idea you're thinking of that
2071s you know it's worth it it's definitely
2072s worth it to you and it's probably quite
2074s a good one because if you're watching
2075s this stream you're probably quite a DIN
2077s enthusiastic player and have some decent
2079s ideas whereas some of the other stuff
2083s that comes through maybe not so much so
2086s the aim of the aim is not to clear the
2089s backlog or deliver everything that
2090s players had ever wanted or ever thought
2092s of especially when they don't agree with
2094s each other we would like to be able to
2097s do more one of the things we're doing is
2099s getting more staff in and thus we hoped
2103s there'll be fewer problems where we have
2105s to say well no artists available we've
2108s got one and we've got hopefully more
2111s devs or at least one more in the
2113s not-too-distant future we've been
2117s interviewing quite a lot but you know
2120s even canceling one big update which
2124s there's some side effects to that by the
2126s way we hope could be he'll come back to
2127s it's not gonna get you a huge amount it
2130s would be a bit like the equivalent of
2131s having like know another qual month and
2136s you know maybe you get another 30 things
2140s out of that which tend to be rather
2141s small things that's not necessarily a
2145s big awareness the player was hoping for
2148s when pitching this also take for example
2155s [Music]
2157s the big launch we have in January now
2161s there was a year where we old school had
2166s a big launch at the start of January and
2169s due to the way scheduling worked out
2171s that year our s3 didn't have something
2173s scheduled for the beginning of January I
2175s think they did it like but maybe five
2178s weeks later we know that for seasonal
2182s reasons people tend to come in for
2183s Christmas so plenums go up and in old
2187s school we observed that the player
2189s numbers kept going up between Christmas
2192s and launch of our new update because
2195s people had something to stick around for
2196s our s3 at the same time I mean they've
2200s got some great content coming but it
2201s wasn't coming in early January
2203s their numbers peaked at Christmas and
2206s they went but and start to come back
2207s down again because there wasn't
2208s something to encourage people to stick
2210s around for the difference that makes is
2213s considerable a different shot no thank
2216s you and so it is disproportionate to the
2223s amount of time spent on the content just
2225s doing it at the right time and making it
2227s something that is appealing I hate to
2231s say that we need to do things that sound
2236s exciting rather than just grinding
2240s through the backlog because some of
2242s those mundane things are worth having
2244s but the effect for us as a business is
2249s very very strong compared to the
2253s Meredeth time spent on it
2255s so those three points in the year
2258s they're not just chosen because we
2260s thought three was a good number three is
2262s a good number especially we're 70 before
2263s it but we it's really quite important at
2268s the moment and I'm afraid we're not so
2271s easy to be able to move away from caring
2272s about that stuff but with more staff
2275s around I do hope we'll be able to get
2277s through more the backlog especially um
2279s all the interface work that some our
2283s former colleagues then me and aired and
2286s Mars and West were working on for mobile
2292s that's at least trickling to an end
2293s there's a lot of fixes still to do for
2296s mobile but that's been occupying a huge
2298s amount of time from the team for well
2300s over a year with that freeing up we've
2305s been able to get a bit more of gameplay
2307s stuff out of them again which will
2310s hopefully be an improvement I mean we've
2314s been saying that we've also got the well
2319s we do a quorum on every February and
2321s generally all of our stuff the core
2324s month comes out of the backlog anyway so
2327s we essentially doing alongside the three
2329s updates I mean I wouldn't necessarily be
2332s averse to doing another core month later
2335s in the year they're very like popular
2338s I like cual months what I'd like when we
2340s split team into three you know live
2341s operations high-value and it's the
2344s projects one what I'd have liked is that
2346s live ops could be if actually doing qual
2349s month all the time in practice we'd be
2353s needed for other things so that's not
2355s been possible and in the absence of a
2358s group that has focused on PvP we've been
2360s having to work on that sort of thing
2364s based on our users recent blogs but
2368s that's the goal to be able to be
2370s delivering a trick all of these things
2371s all the time rather than even to clear
2373s the backlog in great big annual purges
2377s right while we're on the topic of
2379s updates I've just been told that the
2382s chemists release date has been changed
2385s we're pushing it back to January 10th
2387s not the best news sorry guys but
2390s that's just sort of the case I'm sorry
2396s I'm been told it's essentially because
2398s the nature of the project and the size
2400s of it we want to make sure it's as good
2402s as it can be for you guys you can have
2405s to wait one more week I'm afraid but the
2407s flipside is that's an extra seven days
2409s to get your Slayer up to 95 that's a
2414s positive spin on it I guess that'll eat
2418s some skillers who are away around the
2420s third for a tournament they're going to
2422s so they'd actually probably they might
2424s be happy about this one yeah as a gambit
2428s said stuff like this happens when we
2429s what we just it's just a case of us
2431s wanting to make sure that we can put out
2433s the project that you guys want in the
2435s best possible manner and if an extra
2440s week needs it it needs it it just means
2442s we can get what you guys are expecting
2445s it's this particular year the way the
2450s national bank holidays fall around
2453s Christmas means that a lot of working
2455s days taken out and that means that
2458s trying to deliver this of what's
2461s effective the second working day of the
2463s calendar year is riskier than the usual
2467s where we've you know had like three days
2470s in the office poor hand in two days in
2471s the office before hand that's a chance
2473s to deal with last-minute things also
2476s over the winter holiday which we have
2479s it's a much harder risk of staff illness
2483s travel disruption the kind of things
2486s that just take out a day of dev time or
2489s more without a lot of people around to
2491s pick up the slack so trying to guarantee
2497s the third was always a little bit risky
2499s I think the 10th is a lot more reliable
2503s yeah you can see people in the chat
2506s being quite very understanding it's it's
2508s it very much is a case that we love the
2510s game as much as you do and all we want
2513s to do is essentially provide you with
2515s the best thing that we can and in this
2518s case it just means we would like an
2520s extra week to do it and that's what
2521s we're doing so you guys are more happy
2524s lots of smiley faces in chat now that's
2526s nice also mod Karen is dying so if
2528s everyone can set him some love on
2529s Twitter I should appreciate what's
2531s happened to it if not very well it's you
2534s in today I think you have to write
2537s before he infects everybody it's not
2539s manfully right so I'll continue on with
2544s the questions we have a second question
2546s from dears abolish who asked the ham
2548s question maybe all the law stuff is
2550s movies of my bias as much as the players
2555s but they ask when are you going to add
2558s in more quests and more moderate /
2560s there's eros law the measure at are some
2563s of the most interesting characters in
2564s runescape and xerus is one of the most
2565s interesting gods the quest line can go
2568s in a different direction for old-school
2570s for example sliska could already be dead
2572s this horrible character gosh i could
2575s awaken before the ritual of rejuvenation
2577s and there could be a third measure out
2578s faction the desert pantheon cashie jalan
2582s I'm sure I'm not saying is right and
2583s Tamar Cal could all be part of this
2585s faction alternatively they could be an
2587s old school exclusive measure at
2588s stationed on Isaiah when it comes to
2593s quests and law for old school and
2596s runescape personally I'd rather go the
2599s way that where we make her own stories
2601s like we have Zia we are built like we
2605s are building our own quest system we
2606s have ideas on what we want to do with it
2608s and that's something that runescape
2610s hasn't got although we can do quests
2612s that they have done and those kind of
2615s storylines a lot of people already know
2617s that because the law exists coming from
2619s the other game I think personally I'd
2622s like to see us do more outside of what's
2624s already been done so that we can provide
2627s you guys with something different do we
2630s do we feel the same that we'd rather wha
2631s pave our own way with the with the lore
2633s in old-school I'm just trying to
2635s remember what mod West's pitched is a
2637s sequel to desert treasure because it
2639s certainly touched on some desert
2640s Pantheon's stuff and was and if it
2643s involves a sequel to desert treasure and
2645s it's bet that badger ought to be
2646s involved hmm so sort of yes I suppose
2653s the answer something we definitely
2655s consider
2656s so SM Dragon asks with the addition of
2660s Kebbell slow LANs achievement Diaries is
2662s there anything that we can unlock prior
2664s to the release to help us so how can I
2667s get ready I don't think we're putting
2670s tracking him beforehand for any of the
2671s tasks so they've had a few questions
2674s lately about whether Slayer points used
2678s by the new Slayer master will be the
2681s same so their points they can already
2682s get because if you've got lots of Slayer
2685s points then you can you know get lots of
2686s tasks and try to get the one you want
2688s which means saving up lots of slayer
2690s points in preparation for an update I
2692s don't actually know the answer to that
2693s one I've tended to suggest people try
2695s and Bob Monroe who is doing a lot of the
2697s Slayer programming for the update but
2700s maybe saving up all the Slayer points
2702s wouldn't be a bad thing and hey worst
2705s thing if they turn out not to be useful
2707s they're not gonna do you any harm and
2709s you'll have a better slay it level could
2712s also get the obvious things like all the
2714s Zeya favors always that's going to be
2716s useful guessing high stats for things
2721s like redwoods they're probably going to
2722s be included that's a lot of stuff ik
2725s yeah kind of vehicle kind of have a look
2729s through the dev blog that we released
2731s and have a look at what kind of content
2733s and levels and stuff there's game
2735s pitched and then stuff that's already on
2737s there like looking at the factions and
2739s the favored system etc will probably
2742s give you a good idea of stats and levels
2745s and stuff and then we'll throw some
2746s things in there yep
2747s you don't know about Kiki cool so cold
2752s weather says for the older devs as the
2755s panel and the player base knows the
2757s zamorak God Wars dungeon is considerably
2759s harder than all of the others while
2761s simultaneously having the worst rewards
2762s at least on release the question is why
2765s was it released that way she's maybe a
2768s bit broad but what it's worth the way
2771s the the raincoat suits Thoth does it's
2775s enraged attack is not what the developer
2779s intended I never has been and I ran into
2784s this when we were bringing it into old
2786s school and I was going through his code
2788s and
2789s importing his graphics and his code and
2790s trying to work out try to cloudy a few
2792s things up and fix the issues that we
2794s knew about from the previous launch but
2797s some while we were dealing with things
2799s like safe spots by making all the rooms
2802s rectangular rather than having things in
2804s the doorways like the original launch
2806s did where people could always safe spot
2808s Bandos I was trying to avoid changing
2812s any of the mechanics of the bosses from
2814s what people remembered from back in the
2816s day especially accord was was always
2819s pretty darn popular back in the day so
2820s redesigning the bosses felt like no one
2823s was gonna thank us for it anywho
2826s what's going on with krill is meant to
2829s be that some he tries an attack he
2834s detects it you're blocking it with
2835s prayer and he counts up and after a
2839s random number between seven and twelve I
2841s think it was meant to be he does the
2844s arrange thing so if you were fighting
2846s him solo you'd remember after a certain
2850s number better turn the prayer off and
2851s let him hit me properly otherwise who do
2853s the enrage thing that's what the
2856s developer was aiming for as far as I can
2858s tell from the comments and the code and
2859s you can't always tell but there are
2861s comments on this occasion what he
2863s actually wrote was that krill counts up
2868s every servant tick rather than every
2872s attack and then tries to do the enraged
2876s attack but won't succeed if the server
2880s tick at which he tries to do it doesn't
2882s match one of the ones where his attack
2884s speed allowed him to hit you so it's
2887s really unpredictable when he's when his
2891s permitted attack rate will coincide with
2894s the random number that he's trying to
2897s get so matching the counter that's been
2900s cattle conservatives and the Skrill is
2903s not like he was trying to be but he has
2907s been like that since 2007 so I think
2909s Jolley carefully before reprogramming
2912s him even it would be quite easy also
2914s it's a multi-way area so I'm counting on
2917s the demon based on how many times you've
2920s blocked him isn't entirely appropriate
2922s any
2924s hey whoo that's one of our krill um we
2927s could I think if we made that change you
2929s would get easier we can also stick more
2932s custom stuff on him if people have
2933s particular things in mind which is more
2937s my preferred way of going about it
2939s when I asked our resident PV Emma do you
2941s even agree that mm is the hardest of you
2944s it's definitely not the hardest I think
2945s it's one of the easiest right I also do
2948s think that no that is the hardest but is
2950s some of the worst loop you get like the
2953s good things you get from Sammy is he has
2955s another Hofstra the spear and the toxic
2959s stuff I mean the Spears are like 14 then
2962s the Dead's like 6 - hey yeah but if you
2965s compare it to the band off switch yes
2966s facets chest plate and then sourdough
2969s minutes drops ACB sorry gods odd they're
2972s really like much more expensive all
2974s right so the loot isn't great which
2977s makes it not as good but it's definitely
2979s not the hardest bus you could easily
2981s stay there for like a full tusk of Sammy
2983s got great demons okay not that hard you
2988s heard it from what Bruno cold weather
2990s needs to get good so I'm going to ask
2996s this question despite Rock's
2998s protestations just as it's a mod right
3001s imagining the chat today Carrie asks is
3005s there a plan for the new Dragon pickaxe
3007s ornament kit that mod curse showed on
3009s Twitter the answer to this is or written
3012s for me um so I'll just get through it
3014s quickly now you can see it there I think
3016s it looks gorgeous
3017s I've always liked that model so Raya
3021s said we have some rough plans but would
3023s welcome any suggestions where you would
3024s like this to come from please send them
3026s to add jagex curse
3028s what curse getting the Twitter plug this
3030s week shall we I spoke about with this
3037s this with him earlier and the reason for
3040s doing this is that some people prefer
3042s that model to what we've actually got
3044s in-game no turn around so I just prefer
3048s the wrote what's wrong with just the
3049s regular pick generally I think the
3053s regular dragon pig actual expand the
3055s bear
3055s oh ma Alfie I think it was cable with an
3059s interesting design that was like a
3062s dragon's face asks the end of the
3065s pickaxe so that when you smash it into a
3067s rock you've got some poor dragons than
3069s those being just moving on Greggy asks
3080s what are your thoughts about adding new
3081s spells to old school wherever that's
3084s sorry whether that be combat or
3086s utility-based for the different spell
3088s books like a sandstorm like if it fits I
3095s mean we added a whole arc a spell book
3097s that's a lot of spells we did surges
3101s with dragon slayer
3102s - yeah we've got geomancy that's new
3105s right I think if the content warrants it
3111s and there's something that can good can
3112s come of it and the spells have a use
3113s then there's no reason not to
3115s mhm it's a fairly vague question without
3118s specifying what the spells would do it
3120s is like if we decided to include what
3124s the player meant was lots of combat
3125s spells on the lunar spell book for
3127s attacking people with then that probably
3129s wouldn't be the way we'd go hmm
3133s every spell book we have has its kind of
3136s niche I mean the arc is one could do
3139s with a little bit of love they get me
3140s wrong the only thing that is really used
3142s for is making barrows teleport tabs and
3147s resurrect resurrecting not useful in
3149s solid heads so if I know mod West has
3154s had a design to do with updating the
3157s Archaea spell book I mean I'd be happy
3159s to get some recommendations and stuff
3162s from players as to what we can add
3164s towards the okay a spell book to make it
3167s a little more useful reasonable I'm
3173s gonna move on to some chat questions now
3175s with of getting towards the end of the
3177s stream so I want to get these in
3179s skittles asks can you make it so that
3182s you have the ability to upgrade all the
3184s furniture in the costume room similarly
3186s to the pools we can go up to the next
3188s tier
3189s so please make it so you don't have to
3191s remove the items and can be able to
3192s upgrade it with them inside you can see
3196s well that's an iron no that would be a
3198s nice thing to do from what I know I
3200s think even at the one before the top
3203s tier you can only sport like put in
3205s three or four yeah it's not great so
3207s it's not great but at the same time it's
3209s not a lot of items you have to remove
3211s but the upgrade system is much more
3214s suited for yeah yeah the devil made poh
3218s mostly didn't let you change your
3220s material to a completely different
3221s material by just bolting more stuff on
3224s where you can upgrade things like in a
3227s workshop it's like adding a vice to the
3231s table we already have adding steel rims
3234s to the table we already have rather than
3238s saying well this oak thing if I put this
3241s plank on it the whole thing is now made
3242s of mahogany that said well that was the
3247s pattern and has been fairly consistent
3249s about poh we can just say stuff it plays
3253s want this and let them upgrade because
3256s it really is quite frustrating if you've
3258s got going for the middle tier to the
3260s upper one and we wouldn't have I don't
3262s think we'd have any issues to do with
3263s variables if we let them upgrade it
3265s because none of them are really changing
3266s like with the outfit variables that are
3268s used when you put items in the barrels
3270s be fine and the upgrade system since I
3272s had to do some stuff to it to allow the
3276s cult altar with it's very very weird
3279s upgrading behavior since then this be
3283s fine
3283s coop so it sounds like we'd be up for I
3286s think the chats fairly positive about it
3288s as well so something to making for a
3289s backlog one for the head of that backlog
3293s arm asks has there been any explanation
3296s as to why certain creatures which are
3298s classified as demons blood fells and
3300s hellhounds for example while they're not
3302s susceptible to the special passives of
3304s our Clyde / dark light / silver light
3308s are naked while they considered demons I
3311s get how the think there would be because
3314s I felt like demonic things like from
3316s zamorak but they're not demons of evil
3319s yeah I want those like demons in the way
3322s of like
3322s Grady means lesser demons that even
3324s after demon in the name so not pure
3326s enough demons to be affected by the
3328s effects I guess they all quite in most
3331s aspects
3333s I mean people occasion you wonder why
3336s can't a hellhound be killed for a dog
3337s task or vice versa
3341s well I know it's got four legs and it's
3344s kind of canine but it's quite different
3349s won't be to a verse that to be honest if
3351s lower level players want to go to a
3353s hellhound possessor they're 112 combat
3357s something like that well they're from
3358s their safe spots everywhere if we wanted
3360s hellhounds to work as hellhounds and as
3363s demons and as dogs we'd have to change
3366s the slavery structures I don't three but
3368s we could do it
3369s I don't think Dena's are covered I think
3370s it was just more you case for you adding
3372s demon Bane to them at such birth
3375s allowing how has to be killed for a
3377s dog's task hmm it's a hound who's being
3383s assigned dogs that kind of level it um
3385s yeah I think they're Buster's just being
3388s doing surreal does yes he does
3393s oh I don't know how far it goes after
3395s that though with it even Monica it's
3397s probably reason it probably stops around
3399s there yeah probably goes to always you
3401s she doesn't know whatever she has called
3403s yeah kind of fish iris used to just go
3405s to Rd and range the ones through the
3406s fence hmm yeah yeah the prey and I had
3409s to kill I mean the best places in desert
3411s yeah like I said if you could go to
3414s almost go to the desert if you could go
3416s to the evil Steve and go kill the
3417s hellhounds or whatever then yeah I see
3421s that as an improvement really so we have
3424s a question from digi are you planning to
3428s do anything about the current death
3429s mechanics anytime soon
3433s then about soon we haven't put a date on
3436s it but that vlog what you guys wrote I
3438s understand we'd likely have another
3440s draft of it before we try programming
3442s anything yeah I think they're definitely
3444s ironed out first but it is on our minds
3447s and in the works potentially well so was
3453s that that was just on our screen it
3454s wasn't a little
3455s don't expect it soon necessarily but it
3458s is something on our minds but it would
3459s definitely go through the feedback
3461s process additionally so you were happy
3463s with it we were happy with it before any
3464s changes were made yeah it was a few
3467s things you guys weren't happy about in
3468s the last one so Pollachi 2 asks are
3473s there any changes we could make to
3474s improve the fishing trawler minigame I
3477s think it says come up before
3479s it relies on spam clicking and the XP
3481s earned is atrocious I'm also going to
3482s throw in I remember questions so on our
3484s saying um can we improve the the times
3487s that they go out as well if you miss one
3488s you're waiting ten minutes that would be
3491s problematic because it's not instance so
3493s that each game will can only handle one
3495s right line hmm could we just make them
3499s shorter and then would you increase the
3503s XP might not increase the items you get
3505s from it but you'll get XP it'll be a
3507s faster angler outfit mm-hmm that might
3511s be a decent solution then it's also been
3513s suggested that we made the afk time
3515s we're a little bit harsh in there hmm
3517s yeah I think at the moment if you get a
3520s full bar after having done it you can
3522s idle for five to six minutes when you've
3525s got a 12-minute minigame that's not
3528s helpful well unless you're the person
3530s afk of course but yeah I see somebody
3536s complaining it devalues their angular so
3540s the oxygen sort of maybe yes decreasing
3542s the time might be I think appropriate
3544s way to fix there were definitely things
3545s that we could approach the community
3546s with to make that piece of content more
3548s useful and enjoyable Matt had quite a
3550s few ideas about it back in the day I
3552s forget what they were but we've probably
3555s still got his blog available somewhere
3557s I'm gonna try and squeeze in one last
3559s question I appreciate we're about to run
3562s over time good one um so the last one
3564s from the chat oh you got a good one
3566s Oh blimey okay I quite like this one so
3571s from cell ste we have why not give us a
3574s token upon getting a duplicate pet drop
3576s this token would be untradable but could
3577s be spent at pro Vita the pet insurance
3579s lady which would either let you insure a
3581s pet to save 500k or redeem it when
3583s you're getting a pet back which normally
3585s costs one mil so instead of getting
3587s nothing you get some people
3589s 500k rml so yeah I mean I think I
3593s usually came to me with this one as well
3594s why asking boy I thought about it
3596s earlier in the week because he saw the
3599s thing I'm ready as well and the pet
3602s you'd I think a common misconception is
3605s that if you get the pet or get a role on
3608s the pet you lose out on something else
3610s but that's not true
3613s everywhere I can think of the pet is an
3616s additional role yeah so not only are you
3619s getting the item the reward you're
3621s getting the pet as an extra so
3624s technically you've lost nothing by
3625s getting it and probita in itself is a
3628s cash sink and intentionally so I would
3632s hate to bring something in that then
3634s reduces such a thing sigh okay so as far
3639s as that says you'll make sure nothing
3641s cuff does wind up do it a lot of size
3643s got this you know we got the next thing
3644s with the unsired that some behavior that
3647s makes it a little bit odd I'm so I see
3651s one that would end up being different
3653s it's like a very very very role as beat
3656s as happened but you only know because we
3661s told you and if we hadn't told you you
3664s wouldn't necessarily feel that you
3666s deserved to be given 500k or meal worth
3669s of value for it and we could go in the
3672s other direction by just not telling you
3674s I think in fact players originally asked
3676s for the message to be put in because I
3677s don't think it was including on me it
3679s wasn't you had funny feeling no it would
3682s be you have been followed and it is
3683s called into your backpack and then was
3685s it 2016 maybe think so we added in the
3689s fact that you have a funny feeling you
3690s would have been followed I can see it is
3691s fun to know but it doesn't necessarily
3694s mean that it has to be worth that kind
3696s of value also means we can track how
3698s many pet roles you've had on the
3699s collection log yeah which is because
3701s today I've got two sock pits just to
3704s trying it out thanks probably that we're
3706s past six but I really would like to
3709s answer the group Ironman question if
3712s that's all right absolutely is it's a
3713s popular question mmm so what's the
3717s answer anyway
3719s ask you be aware the engine teams we
3722s worked
3722s the mobile thing for well over a year
3724s and that's been their top priority we've
3726s not be able to get we'd not be able to
3728s ask them to a whole lot of other stuff
3729s on the side while that's been going on
3731s that's sure we've launched mobile that
3736s doesn't mean it's finished after all
3738s considering all the things people right
3740s in saying that were wrong with it will
3741s need changing about it'll need fixing
3743s about it will aspect ratios on tablets
3745s aren't very good so things overlap with
3747s other things these are things that are
3750s that do need solving so the engine teams
3753s still on that kind of stuff I think
3755s somewhere in the list is some Bluetooth
3757s keyboards quite a popular one that
3760s because mmm I hate talking on a mobile
3762s device I imagine some of you do too
3766s means that the engine team is not free
3768s from mobile yet which means that can
3771s they do everything they need for group
3773s Ironman it's quite a big backporting
3775s project well we can't realistically
3778s expect to be doing that at the same time
3780s so we'd like group Ironman because you'd
3783s like group Ironman and from our point of
3785s view it's kind of harmless I don't see a
3789s downside to it existing so sure we'd
3794s like it but we can't commit to a time
3796s for it because we can't even commit to
3799s when they'd be able to start the work
3800s never mind where they'd be able to
3801s finish it and I don't like giving a date
3806s if we can't be pretty confident in it
3808s that's where you get winter 2017 from or
3812s indeed the 3rd of January so no we don't
3815s have an enhancement on that one but we
3817s do know you want it and we'd like to
3818s give it to you because why wouldn't we
3821s the engine team are very aware that is
3823s something it is something we want a new
3825s guys want and the good thing is is that
3828s as and when they do get around to it
3831s also enables things like I know a lot of
3833s the code that we use for the group
3835s Ironman would also be relevant in clan
3837s systems yes well why know how some of
3840s that would work but that seems to be
3842s with it and that's what we've been told
3843s I learned that give this boat about
3846s group I'm a bit now I'm sure they were
3848s gonna do so that that also allows us to
3850s redesign things like the duo Slayer
3852s system that is pointless in our game
3855s right now
3856s and loses it on logout if we get this
3859s thing that drops describing then we'd be
3860s able to make them persist over logout
3861s and then it would be then it'd be more
3864s worth putting features on because at the
3866s moment if it became useful then that
3867s logout thing make it really annoying
3869s yeah they're definitely aware it's a
3871s high priority for us but remember the
3873s engine team serve the business not just
3876s our product but they're definitely aware
3880s that it is something we want and we do
3881s keep trying to prod them to see what we
3883s can get when we can get it yes if they
3886s not they haven't heard that you wanted
3887s it um and especially when you've got a
3890s thing like well clans which is where
3893s this is going which ties into
3895s cross-platform chat stuff that are links
3899s into our s3 that's bigger than the usual
3902s engine stuff because it's got to happen
3903s to both products at the same time
3905s coordinated and they also have quite
3908s high priorities which probably involves
3910s I'm getting a mobile version because
3912s their customers wanting to some of the
3915s same people is you may be okay I think
3919s you've got to wrap up yeah I think about
3921s was it there's the answer for the group
3923s Iron Man question that's where we're at
3924s with it at the moment um its mobile to
3926s thank everyone for joining me on the
3927s couch this week and thank you guys for
3929s watching we'll catch you in the next one
3931s oh right