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[2021] I was justly banned for exploiting the split vulnerability but


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Yesterday my account got permanently locked with reason - "Exploits" https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sattatrapy

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First of all, i want to say, i totally understand GGG's recent position about exploit abusingI understand that me and all the rest players that were abusing this bug might had ruined a game for the rest "normal" players. I'm truly sorry.

My post isn't about that, I wanted to tell the story about what happened, and what was fixed (and what's not) GGG fixed the removal of the split tag from the recipe, but they did not fix the fact that the fracture properties can still be removed with the same recipe.( https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/n325hl/you_can_print_a_lot_of_6linked_weapons_for_almost/ like this recipe) Now, due to this bug, fracture-tags on really expensive bases doesn't make any sense. I believe, that this is a very large exploit for economy right now, and it needs to be corrected ASAP.

Also i would like to see your opinions about this league's absolutely massive amount of game-breaking bugs I'm glad that GGG are trying to fix all vulnerabilities in short periods of time, but i believe, that community's help is much more efficient than current team of GGG's testers

P.S for those positive guys who write to me about a non-permanent ban, here is the answer to the appeal, and I additionally requested confirmation by mail, I will throw it off later https://prnt.sc/12huny5 (appeal)
https://prnt.sc/12hvw5j (mail)

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over 3 years ago - /u/Bex_GGG - Direct link

We understand the level of interest in why this ban took place. There's a lot missing from this story which we can't divulge due to privacy and it potentially encouraging future exploitation of this kind. For clarity, this was not your average case of using the splitting bug before it was patched.

We understand that players want a consistent statement about what behaviour constitutes an exploit vs a smart use of game mechanics, and what factors determine whether a ban is temporary or permanent. There's a lot of grey area here and we decide on a case-by-case basis so it's difficult to give an exact set of rules because then players will exploit right up to the edge of the rules with impunity. We'll keep a discussion about this going as we know it's a topic of concern

over 3 years ago - /u/Bex_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by bugpanye

Oh there is more to this.. thank you ggg for the response, to the top!

To be honest, it's exceptionally rare to see someone represent their personal account ban in a way that's completely factually correct. I wish people would stop taking posts like this at face value.

over 3 years ago - /u/Bex_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by JJakaRebel

At least for me, I think a lot of people on this subreddit are just incredibly confused about all of the exploiting and banning (or lack thereof) going on this league. We don't really have any general consensus of what's right a wrong, or what's bannable and not, to go off of so it's hard not to take posts like these at face value. This is such an incredibly tricky and nuanced topic for a lot of players and I assume the same is true for you guys at GGG.

It's a completely reasonable discussion for the community to be having. I understand the discomfort that sort of uncertainty creates. I'm more referring to being like, "Yep, that post has all the facts" without a little more skepticism about the details being presented. We literally just had a lesson in this.

over 3 years ago - /u/Bex_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by CryptoBanano

Well im not sure if that make things better. Whoever abused the split tag bug should be banned. As you can see posts talking that shouldnt happen are barely upvoted, the majority doesnt agree.

I spoke about this here.

over 3 years ago - /u/Bex_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by Pixelit3

It's also exceptionally difficult for someone to know why exactly they were banned.

"Exploits" isn't much to go on, for instance.

Personally I'm not a fan of ban posts since they're generally more private matters and the stories will overwhelmingly be one-sided, but it's understandable that [a banned user] would not have a factually correct account of the reason for being banned when they [are not provided full details by GGG].

It is understandable why a lack of detail is provided in the note for a multitude of reasons, but this will be a consequence of that direction.

*Edited for clarity

I assure you that the people involved in this have no ambiguity about what they were doing despite how it was presented in the OP.

over 3 years ago - /u/Bex_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by SirVampyr

Last time I checked, most games don't allow multi-accounting. So they would ban you again, if they find out you're the person that got banned (similar to banned streamers on twitch).

But not GGG. They are perfectly fine with you playing? Heck, create a new account right now!

What if he didn't have any MTX? (unlikely, but still) He'd have almost no punishment at all!

My point is: It's inconsistent. I'm not arguing wether it's justified or not.

It's a pretty futile endeavor to attempt to keep people completely locked out of a free to play game.

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