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1s	[Music]
67s	uh hello polytopians welcome to the
69s	polyopia official Channel and to the
72s	Kali polium highlights uh my name is
74s	Adam you might know me from from poly
77s	champs as Gazo um and also as mij tube
81s	and today our guests are my lumper and
86s	uh and
88s	force hi guys how is it
92s	going hi quite a good day so far yeah
96s	great to have you back Mr Lamp because
98s	you are our uh yeah common commentator
102s	many times and voice is with us for the
104s	first time um okay uh
108s	so uh before we jump into the games uh
112s	maybe let's talk about
115s	the the heroes of our uh stream uh the
120s	Al tribe uh so what what are your
123s	personal opinions on that
128s	tribe uh it's pretty fun it used to be
132s	my favorite uh tribe for actually the
135s	maybe first question do you have them
137s	because not everyone yeah needs to have
139s	them yeah I of course got them well I
142s	got all tribes okay so we got that clear
144s	sorry ver yes go ahead uh it used to be
148s	my favorite tribe for really long time
152s	but sadly they are not as good as I
155s	would want them to be MH why is
159s	that well because for One V ones uh they
164s	are too too slow in development compared
168s	to other Tripes like zasi
172s	MH uh and there starting Tech isn't as
177s	good as one might uh expect with clothes
180s	because they are really expensive and
184s	they are not that hard to counter
188s	mhm okay MH and you
192s	lumper yeah so um quali strength
196s	obviously um are more water-based Maps
199s	because their strategy a great Tech and
202s	of course if you're like playing ffas or
206s	Team games they are great as well
207s	because uh strategy leads right into
210s	diplomacy and in games where you can
213s	build embassies they are very powerful
216s	mhm like now thinking about Kali
220s	mirrors um what I like about Kali is
223s	that there are like a lot of different
225s	viable strategies and it also depends a
229s	lot on the map you're
231s	playing um they obviously got great um
235s	resource rates well mainly tier one
237s	resources like every single tile has to
240s	have at least something mhm so they get
243s	tons of fruits usually good amount of
246s	forests and animals and then also a lot
250s	of Mines but basically no
253s	Farms so yeah like economically you
257s	could for example go into mathematics
260s	you could also just sit on like
261s	organization and hunting or you could go
264s	into Mining
266s	smiy and like militarily we also like
270s	like lot of different options you could
272s	go into rder roads you could go into
274s	archers you could go into cloaks could
277s	even go into markets and then like just
280s	Spam expensive units so there are like a
283s	lot of different ways to play
285s	them uh would you say that they are
287s	difficult to play uh who would you
289s	recommend them to is a good tribe to
292s	actually you know start your adventure
295s	with
297s	polyopia um I don't think they are that
301s	easy um to start playing because
305s	obviously you got you have a lot of
307s	different choices you can
309s	make
311s	um and like the way they work in the
315s	early game for example the interaction
317s	with a starting Defender um really is
321s	different than a lot of other tribes
324s	behave because yeah because it's like
326s	Defenders at the beginning are kind of
328s	use useless Tech right
330s	like your starting Defender if you move
333s	onto Village of that guy your opponent
335s	has basically no way to knock you off of
337s	that Village but if your opponent is to
340s	Village first while other tribes could
344s	kill a warrior with two Warriors Cali
346s	can only have a Defender and a warrior
348s	so that's not a possibility
351s	mhm okay what about you
354s	Wars uh can you repeat the question uh
359s	are they difficult to play in your
360s	opinion would you recommend who would
362s	you recommend them to
365s	uh from the normal tribes yeah I would
368s	say it's one of the more difficult ones
372s	MH I think it's pretty fun especially if
375s	you like uh some more
379s	complex positions using Defenders uh
383s	defense from forests or
386s	mountains but overall I don't think they
389s	are the most the most difficult
394s	mhm because you have special Tri what's
398s	the difficulty about in in your opinion
402s	uh why why do you say they are difficult
405s	or maybe quite to play starting starting
408s	with
409s	Defenders is a completely different game
413s	than starting with some economic Tech
416s	mhm so it it's a completely different
420s	phas of devel
423s	development okay yeah that's that's uh
427s	that's
428s	true Okie do uh so before we uh start uh
433s	watching the and analyzing the games a
436s	few organizational notes uh so first
439s	we'll review the the games the Kali
442s	polium and that we pick to to show you
447s	and once we finish it will be like four
450s	games I guess um there will be an
453s	opportunity to ask questions I mean like
456s	a longer questions so for example if you
458s	have some uh some game that you
461s	struggled uh with uh or I don't know
464s	something in the game did not work as
467s	you um as you
469s	expected uh simply post the the question
473s	and the um and the link to to the game
476s	in the in the chat and then at the end
480s	our guests will uh will like show the
485s	show your your your game and and give
488s	you some some tips what you could have
490s	done uh differently or why this did not
494s	work or yeah something some some other
498s	answers that that you might seek okay so
501s	I think we are ready so let's dive in
504s	and see what happened uh this month in
506s	the
507s	polium so I will add M lamp um
514s	screen okay so the the floor is yours so
518s	who's playing here okay so in this first
522s	game we got um
525s	Reds in the dark green playing against
530s	um The Liberator
533s	or PCU how his in-game name is
537s	called um yeah so I just refer to him as
541s	L Liberator mhm and the map for this one
545s	is
547s	Dryland um it's mirror match like all
550s	polium games and this month he had
553s	katali so we got a katali
558s	mirror and
570s	Mr Lamp are you there we are losing we
573s	can't we can't hear you we can't hear
577s	you you can't hear me oh we can now now
580s	you're back but but we couldn't hear you
582s	for couple seconds s repeat what I said
585s	yeah
586s	and so we got Reds and dark green
590s	against the Liberator or PCU and
594s	orange and the map is
598s	Dryland um it's mirror match up like all
601s	polium games and um in this month we had
605s	crali so we have a Cali m match
615s	up okay should I start off the game yep
620s	let's
621s	start well maybe we can take a look at
624s	the spawns
625s	first um well a lot of FRS yeah they
629s	look very s similarly rats got one fruit
632s	more but an exchange and lior got an
637s	animal
639s	mhm okay so we're seeing standard Kali
642s	openings with t z Warrior for
645s	both mhm could you explain uh a bit why
649s	why this uh this kind of uh movement why
652s	why did they go in those Direction
655s	because it matters in the in the games
658s	right
660s	um yeah so ideally you want to go into a
664s	direction where you reveal like a lot of
666s	times uh where you reveal a lot of tiles
669s	and you also reveal um or and you also
673s	follow like resource indicators mhm
676s	which
677s	are so in this case what what are the
681s	indicators okay let's go back to the
684s	beginning
686s	so like the resource indicators are
689s	those where you see resources present so
692s	like for regular tiles it would be um
696s	fruits and farms for Forest would be
700s	animals and for mountains it would be
702s	mines and basically you want to avoid
705s	going into directions where V are not
708s	present and like for every tribe it
710s	depends how likely it is for the
713s	resource to be present mhm um okay why
717s	does this matter um
720s	like next to a village um resources are
725s	way more likely to spawn and if there is
728s	no Village next to that tile and like in
731s	the beginning of the game you obviously
732s	want to find more Villages so that is
735s	why you follow the direction of where
738s	the resources
740s	are and and now another Tip since you're
743s	playing on drylands um there cannot be
747s	any Villages um
750s	to right next to the map Edge and the
754s	second layer as well like I I'll turn
756s	off replay F really quick so as you can
760s	see um on this line there is no Village
763s	to be seen like at the edge of the map
767s	there cannot be any
768s	Village that only applies to drylands so
771s	that is something to keep in mind as
773s	well when exploring a
778s	Dryland okay let's
781s	go okay yeah so you got um standard
785s	openings for both following resource
791s	indicators and they both find the city
793s	with their Defender RS doesn't find one
796s	immediately with his
803s	Warrior um I believe the Liberator takes
806s	an Explorer here MH Okay so what we saw
810s	was um Reds went for a
813s	workshop and now the Liberator goes for
816s	an Explorer but there's another reason
818s	why the Liberator goes for an Explorer
820s	and reds doesn't because the amount of
823s	meeting Stars you get from your opponent
825s	depends on your opponent's
827s	score and in this case um because the
831s	Liberator is playing second and rats
834s	already captured the city rats is going
837s	to be above 1K score which means
840s	Liberator would get five stars instead
842s	of three for meeting him and if you take
846s	a look at how many stars he has if he
849s	manages to meet rats with the Explorer
851s	this turn then he will have enough stars
854s	to go for a work shop in his Capital as
860s	well and the Explorer even ends up
863s	finding red so that's great but barely
865s	misses the
867s	lighthouse very unfortunate
873s	yeah yeah red um red saw that a
877s	liberator captured there but um he's
880s	just going to go for an additional
882s	Workshop here because an Explorer here
885s	would be quite risky it could just go
888s	back to the lighthouse something like
890s	that so often it's better to just take a
894s	safe Workshop when explore it might go
896s	wrong Al it's not not really needed he
899s	has Defender so if he's going to find
902s	something he can easily defend
908s	it yeah Liberator going for two level
911s	three upgrades here and then decides to
915s	make two
917s	Warriors now I wonder if it's the
921s	correct play to go for two Warriors here
923s	instead of leveling up that extra City
926s	yeah I would say it's quite OD
929s	why is that I I guess I guess he can
931s	just Spam Warriors and take the The
935s	Village he sees from from
938s	rats yeah but rats can just make a
940s	Defender no so well he
944s	can with his economy it shouldn't be
947s	difficult to get archers when uh
950s	Warriors come near uh his
955s	City and you mean for rats or for lul
960s	uh for
963s	orange yeah but like the way I see it is
967s	um like right here let's go back so he
970s	will have uh five stars and Nine Stars
973s	per turn could just invest into Workshop
977s	now and then he gets an additional two
979s	stars per turn every turn and then he
982s	gets two archers even
984s	faster I mean yeah I I I completely
987s	agree just think what his vision might
989s	what his plan might have
991s	been okay well he decides to go for two
996s	Warriors rats finds another city with
999s	his Defender which is
1001s	great um let's see what happens
1005s	here okay he takes an
1007s	Explorer now with Red's play here um I'd
1012s	have to comment something as well like
1014s	in this case it didn't matter but um
1020s	like he has a plan to take an explor in
1022s	what city he's
1023s	capturing so I think it would make more
1026s	sense to do that Explorer first before
1028s	we capture level three upgrade because
1032s	it's like basically impossible that we
1035s	explore Miss's opponent and the
1038s	lighthouse and in case he ends up
1040s	getting a
1041s	lighthouse um he could save two stars um
1046s	by needing one less fruit to upgrade his
1048s	capital which often makes a
1051s	difference
1055s	M but yeah he does the upgrades in which
1058s	order and I think it did not actually
1060s	matter because the Explorer missed the
1062s	lighthouse anyways but that's just
1068s	something but yeah the Explorer
1070s	obviously is great basically completely
1072s	reveals us
1076s	opponents okay The Liberator wanted an
1078s	Explorer where that's why he didn't take
1080s	a workshop I
1082s	guess and he finds out that there's a
1085s	Central City where R is going to get but
1088s	maybe um the vam SS position the
1092s	defender might be able to snack that
1094s	ruin over there because red is like
1099s	basically guaranteed going for Red
1101s	Village so that ruin probably should be
1107s	his and even more Warrior
1114s	okay
1116s	Riders
1118s	um what do you think about Riders
1121s	here I I think honestly they
1126s	they they are not too good but I can see
1129s	that he wasn't sure about going for
1133s	Archer uh for hunting for hunting
1137s	archers because he does doesn't have too
1140s	many resources maybe he wants to go for
1143s	routs first and afterwards go for
1148s	Arch yeah but with those with that many
1152s	forests uh it will be hard for for
1155s	another thing is he can if he if green
1159s	doesn't get wer he can immediately sieg
1163s	him wait can he no no no no he can't
1167s	never
1167s	mind yeah but I guess he could have a
1170s	philosophy that but he might get a
1172s	Defender Siege in
1175s	future but yeah typically in catali
1179s	miror matchups you don't really see a
1181s	rider rush because Defenders are like a
1184s	natural counter to
1187s	Riders starts with
1194s	Defenders okay hunting for
1197s	rats and another
1203s	Explorer and he gets a lighthouse which
1206s	is
1208s	great and he sees almost the entire map
1212s	and he goes for that was fast I don't
1215s	think he had to take it
1217s	[Music]
1219s	immediately and yeahor just doubles down
1223s	and gets even more
1225s	Riders oh wait why is he saving so many
1228s	stars
1231s	he ends turn with eight Stars
1234s	here I guess he wants to get something
1239s	uh before he he takes these two Villages
1242s	like rose for
1244s	example yeah he's going to get he's also
1247s	pop C
1249s	so I guess he could have made another
1251s	unit with cattle well let's see what he
1254s	has planned
1260s	okay Reds um 14 stars for
1263s	Reds and he picks up another Lighthouse
1266s	of that
1268s	Warrior or roads okay and two upgrades I
1273s	guess he reveals the ruin as
1276s	well what what I found wait I just
1279s	noticed this he could have claimed the
1282s	ruin in the beginning right like maybe
1285s	he forgot about it
1290s	oh okay I see to get thrs from there's
1294s	no way you want to get trade from ruins
1296s	so don't think that's a possible
1303s	reason and reds picks up
1307s	archery and yeah gets his first Archer
1311s	wait I think there was a nice Play From
1315s	The Liberator
1316s	here so Red's thought he can get away
1320s	with um let's go back to Red sister he
1324s	thinks he can get away with stepping
1327s	onto that
1330s	Village but now L
1332s	Liberator and places the road and Roads
1335s	and that
1336s	Warrior could could Reds have made an
1339s	Archer okay no he was population cap
1342s	that's why I guess
1351s	and yeah now he's just brute forcing
1353s	down a Defender with melee units like
1357s	you see can you can you stop and go back
1360s	a
1361s	little I wonder why he didn't just um
1364s	was able to sieg the West City as
1369s	well like using
1372s	roads H by killing this Warrior and
1375s	bouncing the rer into the city yeah but
1379s	looks like a missed opportunity right
1380s	there where city was completely open and
1383s	the ride from the capital two roads one
1386s	here one here yeah you're in I don't
1390s	think Reds could un
1392s	Siege
1398s	yeah yeah I missed the opportunity for
1401s	the Liberator here and like he easily
1404s	could have afforded it as well right he
1406s	has 11 Stars left like this Defender
1409s	kill right there is like it shows why it
1412s	hurts so much to go Riders against
1418s	katali so in hindsight you you think it
1421s	was a good idea actually to go Riders
1423s	instead of archers for Liberator um not
1427s	necessarily but um like he obviously had
1432s	a significantly better position to start
1435s	with because he was able to afford so
1437s	many level fre upgr great just with
1442s	organization he also said that early
1445s	explorer that met red so he had an
1447s	economy lead for like quite a long time
1450s	so I don't think that rder roads
1453s	necessarily put him into a better
1455s	position than Riders would and than
1458s	archers would
1462s	have and yeah like now right here he
1466s	obviously missed that opportunity to go
1468s	for the sieg
1470s	but like in that case rder roads would
1473s	have definitely paid off he steal a city
1475s	like that but obviously didn't end up
1478s	happening
1502s	yes so Reds um let R the turn
1506s	again so Reds um gets some additional
1511s	City upgrades here like additional four
1514s	stars per turn just for leveling up that
1516s	City in the South which cost him like
1519s	five stars I believe
1521s	mhm yeah but he wasn't able to deny that
1524s	City in the
1526s	East and L Li notices that he somehow
1531s	has to prevent Rats from sieging that
1534s	city with a Defender so he moves like a
1536s	bunch of riders in
1541s	range now Reds just sieges with a
1544s	warrior and he gets forestry and chops a
1548s	bunch of
1552s	forests who that's a lot of
1556s	chopping but Giant his capital and
1560s	that's where Riders really struggled
1562s	because against against shines Riders
1565s	are
1566s	horrible now the Liberator somehow has
1569s	to kill that Defender to be able to kill
1572s	the warrior because Defender was
1575s	creating zone of
1578s	control uh I wonder can you go back to
1582s	the
1583s	previous to um
1591s	I wonder shouldn't he have moved the
1594s	defender to the forest in this
1600s	city and Northwest instead of
1604s	North you mean that you should have gone
1607s	Northwest instead of
1609s	North
1611s	yeah H does that even change anything
1614s	though I'm I'm not sure that's why I'm
1617s	asking
1619s	defend is creating zone of control there
1621s	anyways and because there's a
1624s	mountain yeah I I mean the defense bonus
1628s	If he if he would have enough uh damage
1631s	to to
1633s	Kill ah you're thinking about the
1635s	defense bonus
1641s	yeah I guess that's a valid reason to
1645s	move there
1646s	yeah what did l used to kill
1655s	it right there Warrior and HP
1659s	rer yeah I don't think that combo would
1662s	have killed if rats moved onto the
1664s	forest I guess technically Reds could
1667s	have just could he have rolled around it
1669s	no right one he
1673s	couldn't yeah it's still
1677s	long yeah I think that was a mistake
1681s	that made The Siege not
1688s	hold I mean I could check the
1691s	calculation result really
1693s	quickly and how much damage
1697s	deal so we know it for sure mhm yeah
1700s	let's do it Fly calculate right so a
1705s	rider a 2 Hp Rider and a
1709s	Warrior could only bring down an 11 HP
1714s	defense booster Defender to 1 HP so yeah
1717s	so he wouldn't he wouldn't un them yeah
1721s	good
1734s	catch okay Road Connections to level up
1738s	his capital I
1739s	believe oh yeah but what really bothers
1742s	me here is why why is he not taking ruin
1744s	in the north I guess he doesn't notice
1747s	it but that's yeah maybe maybe he
1750s	forgot that's the you know time pressure
1753s	and uh what what size is this map yeah
1757s	196 so not that big yeah not that big
1763s	yeah and now he gets
1765s	population maybe he waited you know then
1768s	maybe he you know he would have gotten
1770s	fishing and he sensed it and then yeah
1773s	next thing was was the population
1775s	veteran for red and star ruin and now he
1778s	gets to diplomacy and
1781s	cloaks well his every city is pretty
1785s	well upgraded so yeah and like the
1789s	libert just B A grow that City in the
1791s	front so that will be a great Target
1794s	yeah juicy Target
1803s	yeah cloaks are situational but once you
1806s	you know uh get a like a cloak chain
1810s	then it's really hard to defend against
1812s	them right uh even yeah Wonder would
1815s	Liberator be able to kill that
1822s	cloak I guess here it's not possible
1825s	because like cloaks on the food
1828s	I think it should be fairly obvious that
1832s	the
1834s	cl I guess it could also be north of
1836s	that City but I think he could like uh
1841s	kill the kill the warrior F then use
1845s	Rider to attack the the defender bounce
1849s	off to
1850s	that yeah and then bring the
1855s	closest you're right
1858s	uh I think he could reveal it but I'm
1860s	not sure if he could kill it no he could
1862s	kill it with a swordsman afterwards ah
1864s	yeah with a swordsman yeah there is a
1865s	swordsman yes right you're you're
1867s	absolutely right so pretty risky cloak
1870s	placement by Reds
1872s	there yeah but it's paid off
1878s	so yeah even now even now he could just
1882s	kill
1886s	it well but not now he wouldn't be able
1889s	to kill it oh wait isn't isn't it on the
1895s	route um a right the ryer would be in
1898s	range to move north of the cloak
1903s	yeah yes so usually I say it's like
1906s	terrible idea to go for a
1908s	giant um against cloaks but since the
1911s	city was level four already mhm yeah
1915s	like this way he at least chops a bunch
1917s	of for to prevent all the daggers to get
1920s	defense
1927s	bonus because like one giant basically
1930s	can just kill the additional dagger that
1932s	spawns and reds picks up climbing for
1935s	the defense
1939s	bonus if you didn't know yet um daggers
1943s	prioritize tiles with defense bonus mhm
1947s	so it's mountains and
1959s	forests okay so this is now a little bit
1962s	crazy now we have a level six I mean
1966s	honestly like who else would you use
1970s	it I think that's actually the only city
1974s	which it makes sense to get yeah because
1977s	this is like giant
1981s	wall well he can just get clo in
1986s	East maybe would be able to push with it
1990s	because R has his Giants in the
1993s	vest maybe I guess he just prioritize
1997s	defense now the West City here anyways
2010s	and yeah this turn once again like let's
2013s	take a look at what the Liberator has
2015s	here like I'm pretty sure he could reach
2020s	could he reach the capital of um Reds if
2024s	he moves Riders correct yeah but it
2028s	would require to think a little how to
2032s	exactly do it maybe he was low on
2036s	time I guess we don't know that
2039s	mhm yeah absolutely he could absolutely
2042s	do it if he like uses his Giants to kill
2046s	like those daggers that are in the
2049s	v and then uses the Riders to clean up
2052s	the daggers he might even be able to get
2055s	there mhm yeah
2064s	absolutely because like getting Chain
2066s	cloaked by
2069s	uh on such a high level City obviously
2072s	is always brutal especially when you
2074s	don't have units that are good at
2075s	killing
2078s	daggers and now he sees that dagger down
2082s	now now he knows that there's cloak down
2084s	there again as
2092s	well damn so many Siege yeah
2101s	nicely making use of the fact that um
2103s	hitting a city with a
2104s	cloak
2106s	um how many stars does does he get from
2110s	cloak
2111s	attack um I think it's six stars
2116s	mhm yeah so he he he get he gets those
2119s	cloaks almost for free
2122s	yeah yeah and he spawns five units every
2125s	time and he also denies his opponent six
2128s	STS
2131s	yeah yeah lot of rers just to
2134s	retaliation he this
2139s	Forest okay and he manages to get
2142s	the city he also get sieged over here
2145s	because he left that City open
2150s	m so at this point it just seems like
2153s	he's falling
2154s	apart wait what did rats do right there
2158s	that must have been a misclick
2161s	no
2163s	yeah
2173s	yeah okay so he manages to sorry the
2177s	Liberator he manages to un Siege in the
2180s	East and he sieges with a giant okay
2183s	there's a knight I see a
2185s	knight he also Rees for
2189s	City
2191s	mhm let's see if rats is going to chop
2193s	the
2197s	forest oh
2199s	that's that's
2201s	risky oh he even moves the cloak next to
2204s	the
2205s	giant yeah but I mean he has he has a
2208s	cloak next to miss
2212s	oh oh wait let's take a look could could
2216s	he reach it could he reach
2218s	c one
2223s	two he would have to kill that AR over
2226s	there somehow mhm yeah I mean he could
2229s	have chained those all those so two of
2231s	those archers and then two cloaks so he
2233s	would have Reach the the
2235s	capital yeah but if he if he use the
2239s	Knight on these archers he has no unit
2241s	to use to kill the oh I yeah he has no
2246s	unit to kill the
2249s	cloak in the capital unless he somehow
2252s	revealed that that yeah he would have to
2255s	reveal that
2256s	Glo I I don't think you could expect
2260s	that to happen especially because like
2264s	um if the Liberator used the Knight to
2268s	kill that first Archer M he would see an
2271s	eye on both his giant and his KN he's
2275s	naturally going to expect the cloak to
2276s	be in between the Giant in the night
2279s	okay but what would actually be the case
2281s	is that where is one cloak on the other
2284s	side of the Giant and one of the other
2287s	side of the Knight so yeah there's like
2290s	no way to pull that off
2299s	really okay so yeah misses the cloak
2302s	here so that's pretty bad for him
2306s	yeah and Red's just hitting everything
2310s	with
2317s	cloaks and another
2321s	city and he got his own
2325s	Knight oh yeah they're in the in the
2329s	South yeah mhm so yeah this point it's
2332s	like looking vers and verse for the
2334s	Liberator so it's five Against One two
2338s	three four five six he's getting he's
2341s	getting a nice night chain but yeah
2343s	that's quite
2345s	huge I don't know if it's
2347s	enough I mean he CL cleaned up a
2355s	lot yeah but like even though he killed
2358s	so many things his army is still
2361s	worse and now he get
2366s	himself oh yeah that that's the final
2368s	blow I
2373s	think yeah he's left with five
2376s	units six with the giant yeah so
2382s	it's and yeah that's the
2385s	game yeah it was exciting I I I liked it
2389s	it's like a lot of back and
2391s	forth so I guess in the in the beginning
2394s	The Archers won but um the Riders
2397s	weren't that
2398s	uh you know better of a choice
2401s	right there was some value in in
2404s	them yeah he got
2406s	some I'm still not sure if it was the
2410s	correct choice but he he he got more
2413s	value than I would
2415s	expect
2417s	mhm yeah and there was you know like
2420s	taking CDs and then taking them back so
2423s	like yeah I I think it it was a good
2426s	game yeah
2428s	conat yeah mhm I think the breaking
2431s	point was that um The Liberator just
2434s	didn't use the opportunities he had with
2436s	riders
2440s	mhm just bounc into the Open City for
2445s	example like he's going for rder roads
2447s	which is like a strategy that is more
2450s	front loaded here
2452s	[Music]
2453s	mhm because he doesn't really have a
2456s	good answer to like all the units
2458s	threats building up like all those
2462s	Defenders so he has to kind of find
2464s	these early advantages but City snip the
2466s	East was nice
2469s	but you probably also have to get like
2471s	that second City snip there like if you
2474s	get that City
2476s	snip the game would have probably had a
2478s	different ending
2480s	mhm and then there obviously were like
2483s	all those opportunities where he missed
2485s	to kill the cloaks
2491s	um yeah I think right here for
2495s	example it was possible to kill a cloak
2499s	yeah
2506s	um yeah especially because it was I
2509s	think it was to be expected that he's
2512s	going to cloak this city and what won't
2515s	go for the East ones
2520s	yeah R's like always some kind of mind
2522s	game involved like maybe red picks up
2525s	climbing to have moved his cloak onto a
2530s	mountain yeah I was thinking about that
2533s	as
2538s	well but Reds took Rus didn't get
2541s	punished and yeah then just won the game
2543s	with cloes
2554s	yeah I think that sums up this game
2556s	quite
2569s	well okay so let's let's jump into the
2573s	next game on the list
2580s	okay what do we have as next
2589s	one so who's playing here let's start
2593s	with
2597s	that okay so for the next
2602s	game um we got a quali mirror match up
2606s	on legs
2610s	and the players playing will be Wu and
2614s	green M
2616s	and um pmcu in
2623s	red and yeah have the map sles here
2627s	so so there will be some some water
2630s	action right yeah there there are going
2632s	to be some legs probably also some naval
2636s	combat
2637s	on legs are like a lot of different
2639s	strategies for crali going water is
2643s	better vent for many other tribes
2645s	because they have Defenders already mhm
2649s	which just allows your rafts to have an
2652s	additional five hit
2654s	points so how do you see their um their
2659s	response any
2661s	comments yeah so it looks like pmcu in
2666s	red has really great spawn Capital right
2669s	next to the water also four fish two
2673s	fruits can upgrade with either attack
2676s	and he can also easily get Port
2678s	connections later on now at the same
2681s	time um wou that spawn doesn't look as
2685s	great um obviously he got five fruits so
2689s	he can get level three capital just with
2691s	organization M but he of course cannot
2694s	get Port connections without picking up
2696s	roads mhm
2700s	mhm yeah I expect once again players to
2704s	be moving towards resource
2707s	indicators yeah both end up finding a
2710s	city M what did you say that this
2714s	uh um that the red one going uh East and
2719s	then North was a bit risky because you
2723s	can't really be sure like 100% that
2727s	agree with that but um like looking at
2730s	the shorelines he doesn't see a
2732s	shoreline Northeast of that fish and
2736s	Northeast of the other
2738s	fish and while at the same time he sees
2741s	three fruits towards Southeast so it
2744s	seems like a lot safer for Village to be
2746s	there but at the same time you also want
2748s	to kind of prioritize going towards the
2751s	centure mhm especially with the
2755s	defender I also don't think he he had
2758s	that much of an option
2760s	really I mean he could have spent the
2763s	warrior towards the center but with
2765s	quali it's not that bad if you miss uh
2768s	your first city or if you delay it by a
2772s	turn because you cannot upgrade both in
2774s	turn three anyways
2778s	okay so yeah seems like an acceptable
2781s	risk for me mhm and it obviously ends up
2784s	working out here now five fruits met
2787s	City again is great for yeah he has
2791s	really good resources yeah
2794s	amazing fishing for red I think that
2797s	makes sense yeah that's that's quite
2800s	unexpected that uh you know you don't go
2803s	the the
2804s	fruit um uh Branch but the fishing and
2809s	then well right here this you upgrade
2812s	this way level two cities with fishing
2815s	to organization
2817s	but fishing obviously has to be added
2819s	bonus of board connections and so on so
2823s	yeah but it's the you know that's that's
2826s	quite uh uh strange that that uh you you
2830s	know you have so many so many fish uh
2833s	around the Kali cities
2836s	because like some arelo
2840s	Stone usually doesn't happen on lakes
2843s	yeah it it it looks more like
2846s	archipelago over I age
2858s	that yeah another workshop for why you
2863s	right
2864s	here and what do we see Workshop okay
2868s	wait let me quickly look at
2871s	um PM C point of view
2879s	[Music]
2881s	um would it make sense to take an
2885s	Explorer risky he can't he can't do
2888s	anything this turn if it goes east then
2893s	it's pretty useless and he can easily
2897s	upgrade uh his cities with ports and the
2901s	lighthouse yeah and then get the vision
2903s	from the scouts instead of you know
2905s	Rising an explorer
2907s	I think that was a good
2910s	decision yeah I I think it makes sense
2913s	you could obviously go for an Explorer
2915s	but there is an additional risk attached
2917s	and you could argue that like he
2919s	obviously got a great spawn so you don't
2921s	have to take these
2922s	risks yeah because even from his Capital
2925s	he has a safe spot to play support but
2928s	at the same time this map kind of looks
2930s	like the luor is about to get late
2934s	because the sness seems a lot smaller
2936s	mhm which is what often happens on legs
2939s	which is yeah it's not my personal
2941s	favorite
2943s	map mine is I think the legs is the best
2947s	that's the most interesting matchups on
2952s	Explorer for let's take a look at this
2955s	explor it's very nice it's just
2960s	perfect okay level three upgrades first
2963s	here I think that makes sense because
2965s	you don't know if that explor is going
2966s	to reveal your opponent well you could
2969s	argue he should have done that Warrior
2971s	move first or always super moves that
2974s	reveal fuer 4
2977s	first so yeah he basically like what now
2981s	ended up happening because he did level
2983s	three upgrade on the capital first he
2985s	ends up with his ex's pop on the capital
2987s	and therefore two stars less than he
2990s	could
2992s	have obviously ends up getting Perfect
2994s	Vision on his opponent he sees that he
2996s	only has three
3001s	s yeah now um PCU know pmcu knows that
3007s	his opponent has Vision here because he
3009s	also revealed that
3011s	Lighthouse and he's going for both ports
3014s	I was talking about
3023s	earlier so yeah we just saw why you pick
3026s	up hunting and now riding okay mhm
3030s	riding is interesting but you could
3032s	argue that like Riders could be great to
3035s	harass rafts here
3038s	maybe I would I would disagree actually
3042s	the reder has better soueast right has
3046s	better position because
3049s	potentially uh he might even go for
3051s	Bridges and then attack the his opponent
3055s	with uh with riders or you mean red goes
3059s	for bridges yeah yeah so like uh the
3062s	Red's position even though he has a he
3065s	has less green has like full vision on
3067s	red no so he yeah sure but it's like you
3069s	know it's there is an option for them to
3071s	to play Bridges but uh green has has no
3075s	way to to actually uh play any any kind
3079s	of you know Road Bridges uh stuff here
3084s	yeah that makes the riding even worse in
3086s	my opinion because if you cannot be the
3089s	one to initiate the bridge like you're
3091s	investing into the technology or you
3094s	want to fight your opponent like you
3096s	could also just be going archery here
3098s	like you can Archer is is a much better
3102s	play here right mhm yeah I guess archery
3107s	would be more expensive because it would
3109s	cost 10
3110s	Stars yeah but then you can you all the
3113s	all the red units in his capital and
3116s	this City in the in the center are in
3119s	range so I would go archers
3121s	100% yeah like now you could argue okay
3125s	if you go archery you cannot afford to
3127s	upgrade that City or to go for an
3130s	Explorer which is a valid point at the
3133s	same time though if we took that
3135s	Explorer last turn before upgrading the
3138s	capsule he would have an additional two
3140s	stars so right here you can already see
3143s	how big of a difference that could make
3145s	mhm
3150s	he didn't even take riding before we
3152s	Explorer
3155s	M did he take riding the following or am
3158s	I missing something no he took he took
3161s	it at the very beginning of the turn at
3163s	90 start taking riding instead of
3167s	archery I think that that's that's a big
3171s	misplay on I can kind of see him going
3175s	for roads and uh
3177s	and wanting to you want road but like
3181s	you can also just go archers to harass
3183s	everything your opponent has you know
3186s	it's much cheaper so obviously the tech
3189s	will cost you but then you know it's
3191s	three three stars
3194s	for versus seven or eight Stars per per
3198s	Scout so it's yeah I think it's a
3203s	strategic strategic
3205s	mistake yeah I think like roads
3208s	obviously would help leveling up cities
3210s	but like archers are so much better than
3212s	Riders
3224s	here so the only advantage that the
3227s	green has is actually the land mass he
3229s	has so he has a lot of quite a big
3231s	Advantage a lot of C I mean he has great
3234s	economy so
3238s	yeah his economy also is much better I
3243s	think he's getting a bunch of riders
3248s	to and like PMC you cannot even Explore
3252s	with that Warrior down here because
3253s	there's this pesy mountain in the
3256s	bay yeah but he gets this like of nice
3260s	like one unit running around the lake
3262s	because on leges there's always the land
3264s	at the edge of the map to like maybe
3267s	find something like even if you just
3269s	find one ruin it's basically always
3271s	worth it star ruin okay nice now we get
3275s	forestry okay but why are we getting
3278s	forestry instead of like roads or we
3282s	upgrade he didn't go for the giant he
3286s	used no he he got I didn't notice he
3289s	used the
3291s	monent so I mean one two four roads
3295s	would do job and then he also get giant
3299s	anti roads M and he is going to have at
3302s	least six cities quite
3306s	soon so I
3308s	think taking forestry here is definitely
3311s	a mistake over roads yeah if you if he
3314s	went for iing he should have committed
3316s	to roads
3334s	okay this Explorer it actually goes to
3338s	that was lucky and get the lighthous
3341s	okay yeah
3342s	M and now he gets giant his
3354s	Capital yeah so now red should go should
3357s	go
3359s	bombers bombers is the play here I mean
3363s	for red or yeah for red
3367s	yeah yeah red could go bers but at the
3370s	same time like he would have to place
3373s	the bombers quite far back or like they
3375s	could wait sweat another star ruin holy
3379s	yeah that's
3382s	crazy and we're going for a giant with
3385s	Mavs right here okay but I'm just not a
3389s	fan that we don't see roads at all even
3391s	though green can easily get Grand Bazar
3393s	in two turns from
3397s	now yeah and also I think bombers is a
3400s	is a good uh strategy because the red
3404s	sorry the green will land yeah
3408s	that's are so expensive I don't know if
3411s	you can call them a great strategic Jo
3414s	Choice here like
3417s	and he's going to get only one star 34
3420s	stars for his first bomber and that
3422s	bomber only has three attack and like
3425s	the splash damage value only is limited
3427s	as well like you need six bomber hits to
3430s	kill a giant M yeah so maybe rammers
3433s	yeah I I agree at first so like to at
3436s	least to uh to get those uh giant Giants
3441s	killed
3449s	catapult right here sniped
3451s	something and yeah now we
3454s	see nicely making use of um the Ridder
3459s	right here killing the unit units at the
3462s	coast land if you can use land units
3465s	against Naval units is like almost
3467s	always
3469s	great because land units are just so
3472s	much more cost effective oh we see a
3474s	bomber you asked for a bomber you got a
3476s	bomber
3477s	there you
3485s	go
3488s	ah but this Dragon not just going down
3490s	to 21 HP because it moved next to the CL
3493s	next
3495s	to seeing a catapult
3498s	push and instantly attacking oh wait oh
3502s	that's nice city snipe let's take a look
3505s	at that that's beautiful mhm yeah like
3508s	you could think about um like after um
3512s	giant pushing that
3515s	catapult
3516s	um I think that was unnecessarily
3519s	expensive for vant to take the the the
3528s	spot but ah the lumber Hut gives um two
3533s	pop here right yeah and also the as
3535s	verse said the the port spots because
3538s	it's otherwise yeah I guess they could
3539s	have taken the animal instead of
3542s	L you know right here you could consider
3545s	it sieging with capital but it looks
3547s	like red it would be an easy on
3551s	Siege second bomber oh that's
3554s	crazy how uh did did Red place any of
3558s	his monuments or or not and he placed
3561s	his Park of
3563s	Fortune now sailing for green but
3566s	Juggernaut is just getting murdered by
3569s	Riders yeah yeah don't don't place your
3572s	juggernauts next to the coast especially
3575s	against archers and Riders it's not any
3577s	great most of the time yeah
3581s	mhm but bomber is getting some good
3583s	value
3585s	though there are now three
3589s	bombers yeah but Red's capital is very
3592s	vulnerable now with yeah it's also about
3594s	to get Siege yeah I wonder if why did
3597s	Red place a 6 hp defender in his
3602s	Capital huh I
3605s	guess I guess he's thinking green can
3608s	kill a full HP Defender
3613s	anyways but now he just can use his
3616s	catapult to also kill the rammer so yeah
3619s	the best choice in my opinion Scout
3622s	weakening one bomber
3630s	green has to be careful here to not give
3634s	red any value to potentially get uh
3637s	Splash onto his catapult but I think he
3640s	does a good job with
3642s	that okay giant push to defend
3654s	this yeah Red's capital is very very he
3658s	get navigation and Roads did he
3661s	take ah navigation ruin okay he picks up
3666s	roads to Road and a ride at to sieg of
3668s	City makes
3675s	sense so many bombers there but that
3678s	bomber is just range of a catapult
3680s	that's not what you want to see
3683s	yeah yeah the city snipe was was amazing
3688s	but he didn't kill the bomber could he
3690s	have killed
3695s	it what ends up
3697s	happening uses 10 HP does a 2 Hp Rider
3701s	not kill a 4
3702s	HP I think it might leave the defender
3706s	with one
3708s	HP ah and then he roads in the second
3711s	Rider but now the rider does not have
3715s	any moves left
3717s	yeah and now he has also very nice
3721s	damage on himself yeah red could just
3725s	use the bomber against the Catapult
3727s	now and kills everything except that
3730s	full HP Rider I
3735s	think okay rammer bad rammer
3743s	wild yeah as you can see everything up
3747s	everything is dead and there's another
3750s	giant for green so quite a big mistake
3754s	for green here that cost
3759s	him but he's he's moving towards the
3761s	lighthouse over where he's making a move
3767s	M and now he doesn't have enough units
3769s	to kill a giant
3774s	anymore yeah so you see I I was right
3777s	with the with the
3780s	bombers oh that's a nice shine yeah like
3784s	green really is missing the units he has
3786s	so much income but he just does not have
3790s	the units like all these cities at such
3793s	low
3794s	population like what you need to do here
3796s	is like to make units in every city
3800s	mhm yeah focus on the on the on the long
3803s	game not because he's offensive
3806s	obviously
3809s	failed so yeah yeah know this turn again
3812s	like one to five cities where he's not
3814s	making anything
3817s	M yeah spamming too many
3821s	giants like I'm not sure what all these
3824s	Giants are going to do like red is just
3826s	going to make more
3827s	bombers
3833s	yeah like I don't think red should be
3835s	able to Wi from this position simply
3838s	because well why you got like how many
3841s	cities eight against five or something
3843s	like that okay he finally gets archery
3845s	that's great M so if you take a look at
3849s	these bombers here they can be reach by
3852s	archers from the land and archers with
3854s	roads out range bombers
3859s	mhm but this giant over is looking kind
3862s	of scary if you ask me h
3871s	guess he C
3880s	Capital yeah but these juggernauts just
3883s	dying that's brutal
3885s	[Music]
3889s	M oh yeah red the bomb back I think did
3893s	that happen turn
3898s	or did it happen the previous
3903s	turn ah wow that's crazy I I have to
3908s	take a look at turn 20 again so green
3911s	got these dragonauts into the water
3914s	mhm and because like bombers as I said
3917s	earlier right they are not that strong
3919s	they are not able to burst through these
3921s	juggernauts mhm so they survive and now
3923s	take a look at what the juggernauts do
3929s	like if you hate bombers that has to be
3932s	fascinating 36 stars of units just gone
3935s	like that right like that's big problem
3937s	of bombers they are so expensive M and
3940s	not actually that
3942s	strong yeah without without support the
3945s	yeah I agree that they are not that
3950s	strong if you have unlimited Stars sure
3953s	bombers are the best unit but
3957s	they cost 15 stars to upgrade at the end
3959s	of the day compared to five or a Ram or
3962s	a scull
3963s	yeah and yeah okay so yeah right here
3968s	why use
3969s	Victorious obviously probably a spawn
3973s	win but there also were some nice plays
3976s	like sniping the city in the
3978s	back didn't yeah but I think he could
3981s	have concluded I mean green this game
3984s	much earlier if he went archery uh in
3988s	like
3989s	earlier so yeah probably
3993s	probably yeah this this those bombers
3995s	wouldn't be possible with the with the
3997s	archers
3998s	around yeah I agree with that and The
4001s	Archers also would have immediately
4003s	pressured all of his but basically all
4006s	of red cities
4009s	yeah so he made it at the end but uh
4012s	yeah he could have done it much more
4015s	effectively
4017s	not losing the that many Giants in the
4021s	end okay so let's uh let's see what we
4026s	have
4027s	next on the
4032s	list now I think it's one of your games
4037s	Mis it is in fact right
4042s	here um so we got Reds in green against
4048s	me in how do you call this color
4052s	gray yeah beige all the all the Polaris
4056s	enjoyers should know yeah beige
4061s	something okay we we'll call it beige
4064s	okay
4069s	mhm
4071s	think
4074s	for uh
4078s	I mean that that uh the fact that he
4081s	doesn't have access to water is a bit
4084s	unlucky but I'm not sure if it will
4087s	change a lot both of them have easy
4091s	level fre upgrade so that's pretty nice
4095s	mhm uh yeah I think that these pounds
4099s	are pretty basic nothing special about
4102s	them really mhm yeah so the only
4104s	advantage that the they has this the the
4107s	water access because yeah we are not
4110s	sure if uh if if the green one will have
4114s	will have any any cities in his uh
4118s	surrounding areas with the uh with water
4122s	access so let's see MH yeah obviously um
4126s	this game is going to be on legs again
4130s	so bunch of water involved as you can
4132s	already
4133s	see yeah let's see how it plays out
4140s	um yeah so I think what I am doing here
4143s	is not what you typically would expect
4146s	but as I said
4148s	earlier um I no I'm I'm walking onto
4151s	that food because I kind of want to go
4152s	to the center but I end up finding
4155s	nothing and then even worse there's this
4158s	empty tile and
4161s	crali has like a 2.5% chance for those
4165s	tiles to not container food if there's a
4167s	city next to them so I'm not happy about
4174s	that so yeah a you have you have a land
4177s	bridge okay so it won't be yeah a start
4180s	is looking much better for red so far in
4182s	fact now I find no City again so that's
4186s	pretty
4193s	bad yeah rats picks up a workshop
4197s	um I pick up a workshop my
4200s	Capital I would say it's
4203s	debatable in this situation because
4207s	he he could have had had a nice explore
4211s	and the vision on you yeah I agree I
4214s	would probably go for um a workshop in
4216s	the capital and then maybe explore that
4219s	forward City yeah now I see that rat
4222s	where like I was pretty happy that I saw
4224s	that City border because otherwise
4226s	I believe I would have for sure moved
4228s	onto that animal like yeah in this
4231s	position I would have for sure moved on
4233s	that animal if Red's captured a turn
4236s	later I would not have found that City
4237s	down there I say that for
4242s	sure now I pick up organization I see
4245s	that farm which probably tells me
4249s	that there's a city over here
4253s	mhm yeah that that's a 2.5 % chance I
4256s	was talking about that's Cali's Farm
4259s	rate like empty tiles either have to
4262s	have a fruit or a farm if they next to a
4264s	city for
4268s	Kali so rats meet you meets you for
4271s	three stars and you get five right yeah
4275s	yeah mhm I wonder if he's taking
4278s	Explorer to get Lighthouse okay he
4280s	doesn't probably the correct playb yeah
4283s	I pick up hting
4287s	uh to be able to like use those extra
4290s	stars and you should always be thinking
4292s	about Archer even playing Cali
4294s	especially when you can fight on land
4296s	mhm now the problem for me is
4299s	that like looking at this Village layout
4303s	like my cities are just so disconnected
4307s	mhm yeah there's dangerous was that the
4310s	correct play by me
4313s	mm I'm not sure if I would if if this
4316s	was the best play so right
4319s	here I can of course go for a level
4322s	three and a level two
4324s	upgrade but instead I go for a level
4327s	three upgrade and the warrior so I
4330s	wonder up City down there instead but
4334s	maybe I was thinking about an
4337s	explorer archery okay yeah not sure
4347s	Red's also mirrors archery
4351s	here yeah but Explorer could have also
4353s	gone back but chance for that obviously
4356s	was lower and it's a pretty good
4359s	Explorer I have to say
4361s	that basically reveals like all of Red's
4372s	cities okay Archer action h
4376s	so you have both you both have archers
4379s	okay yeah that's what often ends up
4382s	happening in Kali Mir matchups on lakes
4388s	mhm Reds picks up climbing to take the
4390s	mountain
4396s	ruin but like as you can see here like
4399s	my reinforcements of archers are just
4402s	much further away when
4405s	like his cities are just so much more
4411s	connected now he also finds his ruin
4413s	down here on top of the lighthouse and
4415s	two star ruins oh
4418s	jeez that's
4422s	wow didn't even know that he got two
4424s	star runes in that game I don't think I
4426s	ever watched it closely
4428s	enough and that's also why he's getting
4430s	a giant on turn 10 already and the
4434s	second one in the front
4437s	wow really strong situation for him he's
4440s	at 17 Stars per turn now only three
4444s	cities well I'm at 16 with five cities
4447s	and therefore for much higher attch cost
4454s	mhm what is my plan here I think I was
4458s	wanted to save for diplomacy or
4460s	something like that mhm
4466s	but yeah I'm not sure how easy it's
4469s	going to be to hit cloaks
4472s	here like these shines obviously are a
4475s	problem I somehow have to deal how did
4478s	this
4479s	Defender get to the West Side like he he
4483s	marched through your territory just move
4486s	he has it through my territory for like
4489s	I don't know 10 turns or so okay they're
4491s	not that easy to kill and he's I was
4493s	like what what what is this guying doing
4496s	there I mean he's getting some good
4498s	information yeah yeah sure sure yeah
4501s	yeah so red um picks up riding and free
4504s	spirit before claiming Ru just to get
4506s	meditation
4508s	anyways yeah meditation you don't want
4511s	to get that from I can tell you that
4513s	much it's
4516s	like yeah it's like middle finger in the
4518s	face basically yeah so what was he
4521s	hoping for for like U yeah he obviously
4524s	want
4526s	because if you take a look at the stars
4527s	he would have had enough for a night
4530s	right here as well like look take a look
4532s	at my Army it's just AR just like okay
4534s	Knight would absolutely shred this
4547s	mhm yeah so you're just
4550s	[Music]
4552s	exchanging hits
4556s	yeah now I is
4560s	back
4561s	yeah and I make a cloak in the C so did
4565s	your Wii got hit by an
4569s	arrow so many of them flying yeah I see
4573s	there are quite a lot of them
4577s	yeah so I see s I'm obviously not happy
4580s	at all like it's turn 30 night and he
4583s	has two giants M and he is like a better
4586s	City layout I obviously got more cities
4589s	but I can't really level them
4591s	up so what's your plan yeah I'm trying
4594s	to space my units so he doesn't get a
4596s	massive night chain he still get quite a
4599s	decent one
4600s	here The Siege now knows that I have
4609s	cloes and what am I going to do with my
4613s	cloak I wonder moving down here okay
4616s	getting
4618s	ready and I'm getting my own giant
4620s	finally
4622s	but yeah because he
4625s	went he wasn't able to make another
4628s	Knight in the previous turn mhm which
4631s	means that he does not have another
4633s	Knight
4635s	ready okay this Explorer picks up a
4637s	lighthouse for him but did you know that
4640s	during the the game or like it's in the
4643s	hindsight you I mean if you go for roads
4646s	after you got your first KN you usually
4648s	cannot afford a second Knight and I have
4652s	full vision on him so I
4653s	know
4661s	okay yeah so right here let's take a
4664s	look back at R's turn this was a pretty
4667s	big mess up by him I can say that much
4671s	mhm so if you look at my perspective
4674s	you're going to see I have this look
4675s	right here I have one possible tile how
4678s	I could R how I could hit rat the city
4682s	mhm right now it's occupied by an
4693s	Archer
4696s	and what does he end up moving yeah now
4699s	he moves his Archer forward he sees the
4701s	eye mhm he knows what it is he knows
4706s	he has no STS I guess no he knows in
4708s	which TI the cloak is like there's only
4710s	one possibility because there are no
4713s	eyes on any of the other
4717s	units like there's no eye on shine no ey
4720s	Warrior which means that the clo can
4722s	only be on this
4724s	fruit yeah but can he really do anything
4727s	about
4728s	it like no the clock is out of range so
4731s	like it can't ah I could kill his Archer
4734s	I guess yeah
4737s	that's
4738s	fair but at the same
4741s	time so the only way you can attack is
4744s	is to kill this Archer yeah yeah but I
4747s	would at least have to put my archers
4748s	out of position yeah he moved it why
4751s	it's like why why why
4754s	rats so he C would have been protected
4757s	if he did not move that I could have
4759s	killed that Archer
4762s	so yeah I go for a double cloak right
4765s	here
4765s	here the cloak on the level five like go
4768s	go back could have you could have
4772s	really
4775s	yeah like right here is where red s that
4778s	there the clo
4780s	yeah ah no I wouldn't be able to no you
4783s	wouldn't be able because I can only move
4785s	one Archer to hit
4788s	there C was perfectly safe yeah that's
4792s	that's if he not had moved
4796s	oh that's a blunder that's a big BL that
4798s	was pretty big throw by him
4803s	yeah so how many how many daggers do you
4806s	get and yeah he also didn't train a
4809s	knight even though he has attch because
4811s	he spent like allar things five five
4815s	daggers yeah yeah I finally end up
4817s	finding that City in the corner over
4819s	where I should have been
4820s	there yeah that's a long long way I
4824s	could Quest yeah now he that level one
4828s	city over there that I couldn't really
4831s	protect and like he's trying to deal
4833s	with the daggers I think he's doing
4835s	quite a good job killing a lot of
4838s	them but he's not making a new Knight
4844s	so that could hurt of course
4857s	yeah so sure do have any to sieg this I
4861s	don't think
4862s	so so I you're basically just trading
4865s	cities right here but I'm obviously
4868s	getting the better City but now Red's
4870s	got a knight again okay and this
4873s	Explorer gets I have I have got yeah mhm
4885s	yeah I was not happy about
4888s	that I pick up riding myself because I
4892s	know like in this
4894s	situation I kind of have to get Knights
4897s	myself
4898s	eventually this Army also is like
4900s	basically only archers and well Riders
4903s	and
4910s	knights oh that's for him yeah yeah but
4915s	to be fair M couldn't really space them
4918s	any other way yeah I I'm I'm not sure if
4921s	it was the correct play by me to move
4923s	that cloak back there for the
4928s	ruin I get my own Knight now does the
4931s	clo get revealed when you when you take
4934s	the ruin or not does get revealed red SE
4938s	okay yeah but like now you can also see
4941s	like all those problems like I went for
4943s	the Knight myself here but because I
4946s	went for the night I had like no stars
4948s	to upgrade anything to try new UN
4952s	on so like I'm not at a very good Pace
4955s	here and now I see that 40 HP giant
4958s	staring down my city oh wait Red's turn
4961s	right here that was a mistake I just
4964s	noticed so red sees that I have a KN
4968s	down here mhm now let's see what exactly
4972s	he's going to do about it
4982s	like to be fair um when we played this
4984s	game I think it was like 4:00 a.m. for
4986s	both of us or something like that Jesus
4989s	you are crazy
4991s	people yeah but um he told me like he
4995s	just didn't notice that there was this s
4997s	noticed after he played the
5000s	start yeah at 4:00 a.m. you know
5002s	probably after playing some games it's
5005s	it's it's
5009s	possible yeah especially that that uh
5012s	your your color you know the beige is
5014s	actually a bit like uh you know like a
5019s	cloak kind of uh color so the red is
5024s	sorry the green is is actually you can
5027s	see the units better than the beige ones
5031s	they kind kind of BL blend in yeah this
5034s	obviously was massive night sh though
5036s	like he lost so much for this
5039s	yeah but
5042s	like defend right like he just rebuilds
5045s	like what do we do now I have nothing to
5048s	defend
5054s	this yeah so it will be the third time
5057s	when this city is taken by one of
5060s	you that's crazy I don't think I've ever
5063s	seen a game that you know the city would
5066s	go you know back and forth to
5072s	like down
5074s	here
5077s	no and one two three four ah all units
5081s	out of range
5083s	okay but yeah probably the wrong
5085s	decision to make a clo there by me
5087s	because he's just going to clear up all
5089s	my armies protecting the clo and well
5092s	that then what am I going to do with it
5094s	right
5100s	yeah so now I I sneaked that cloak all
5102s	the way around that Lake to hit that
5104s	city which was nice
5108s	uhhuh but I just can't get the value of
5110s	my night because I'm lacking with
5112s	support units to get through the
5117s	Defenders and now he has to invest a
5120s	bunch of
5122s	archers because I weakened his Knight
5124s	with the cloak attack
5127s	but it's not looking good like he has so
5129s	many
5131s	units and now he even reveals my cloak
5134s	and he gets on
5137s	City yeah yeah I think right here I
5141s	decide that there's not really a reason
5143s	to play this anymore
5147s	M yeah uh really good
5150s	game so yeah I I think uh it was quite
5154s	unfortunate on your on your side that
5156s	that your CDs were so far far from from
5162s	each other so rats could have you know
5165s	uh come back with uh after even after
5168s	such a such a big uh chain because his
5172s	CS are like close and then they can
5176s	support support one another I even was
5180s	lucky how the how the map ended up
5182s	playing out because I went F the center
5185s	into the center all the way in the
5187s	beginning which
5191s	um ended up getting me this area in the
5195s	south over here if you take a look at
5198s	the map you would probably expect that
5200s	red just gets all of
5204s	this so yeah not the best map generation
5209s	for me of course but now do you still
5212s	think that going cloak was was the right
5214s	C what about um I know some Navy in the
5218s	city in the I I I I don't think maybe is
5223s	good idea if you can fight on landh it's
5226s	like always no I mean like the the this
5229s	bridge that you have between you it's
5232s	like obviously it will be a land battle
5235s	but uh maybe you know sneaking some
5239s	bomber uh this in this situation would
5242s	would actually uh uh let me
5247s	see uh yeah so uh if if there wasn't any
5251s	any any kind of village on rat's side um
5257s	then maybe Navy would have been okay but
5260s	since he had this city in the in the
5262s	north this one one tile City with uh
5266s	with water access then you can't
5268s	actually place the bomber I mean
5270s	obviously he also got these crazy ruins
5273s	mhm yeah
5276s	accelerated him I think also was like
5279s	the game breaker in the end mhm yeah I
5283s	think the reason why want cloak is right
5285s	like he makes this giant in the city
5288s	right in the front mhm like um when did
5291s	I see
5297s	this um let's take a look at my
5300s	perspective so right here everything
5303s	seems okay
5304s	[Music]
5307s	mhm and
5310s	then turn 10 happens Giant in the
5313s	capital and in Fr mhm and you are far
5317s	away from any any Giants at all yeah I
5319s	think I made a mistake here I think I
5321s	wanted to make a cloak
5323s	in did I make a cloak in turn 11 yeah
5327s	that was my mistake I was kind of
5330s	unhappy about that like I could have had
5331s	a cloak turn earlier oh okay mhm I had
5335s	enough stars to make a clo here but kind
5339s	of forgot that I wanted to go for a
5341s	clo dead when I didn't have enough
5344s	anymore okay so I guess you're even on
5347s	mistakes so he made a mistake with I
5349s	mean I don't think necessarily been good
5353s	to make a clo cuz like the cloak would
5356s	have to be in the South City and then it
5358s	still takes like at least three turns to
5361s	hit anything and like I somehow have to
5363s	get past with shine
5365s	like if you correct it should be
5366s	impossible to hit the clo
5369s	M yeah clo cloes are nice they have
5372s	their strengths but uh they are also
5374s	quite slow and and uh not that hard to
5378s	find mhm another thing is he has so much
5381s	so little space to to place his units
5384s	that he might have just deny you any any
5390s	ders yeah exactly
5394s	if he fills up enough Tes in City then
5397s	only limited amount of daggers can spawn
5400s	yeah yeah yeah without water growth it's
5404s	like U it's not that great uh you know
5407s	for for a return on on a cloak like it
5411s	was in the in this previous
5417s	game okay any other thoughts on on this
5420s	this one
5427s	um yeah I'll need like a short break
5429s	about one minute so I'll be right back
5433s	Okie
5434s	do I wonder if if cloths were really
5438s	necessary there m like I kind I kind of
5442s	get what Ma was trying to do
5445s	but uh I think riders with ro eventually
5451s	maybe
5453s	um no just riders with thrs and maybe
5456s	Knight in the future would have been
5459s	better yeah I agree that the clo so like
5463s	you know he he made his place but
5465s	actually rats uh allowed that because
5469s	with this one misplay uh where he when
5472s	he where he moved his
5475s	Archer um if that did not happen then
5480s	you know like there is no way that he
5482s	could have done anything with this with
5484s	this cloak yeah so actually it was it
5487s	was it was
5489s	very very he was very lucky to to pull
5492s	this
5493s	off yeah so so I guess the the the right
5496s	counter was was Riders and then
5499s	going uh going kns
5502s	because
5504s	um yeah so all the all the funds that
5507s	went
5508s	to um to get the cloaks and this wasn't
5513s	like a
5515s	um you know like a breakthrough for for
5518s	me Lampa because rats was uh was was
5522s	able to
5523s	recover after all the the the cloak
5525s	attacks so yeah yeah I
5530s	agree yeah but I still think or maybe
5534s	maybe maybe maybe some kind of Navy was
5537s	was a yeah it was also quite unfortunate
5540s	that this southern city that Meister had
5543s	did not have any kind of water access
5547s	so um everything
5550s	was was decided on the on the land so no
5555s	no navy battles here
5558s	yeah you're back yeah I'm back okay so
5562s	let's with the next game I think let's
5564s	let's go to the next game I think that's
5567s	also the last game we're going to
5570s	be unless there are going to be more
5573s	games submitted by you
5576s	um no so um just a reminder if you our
5582s	beautiful polyopia audience if you have
5584s	any games that you would like to share
5586s	with us our commentators are will be
5590s	happy
5591s	to to give you some tips and uh and
5595s	watch your games uh so that's now that's
5598s	the the time to to put your links in the
5601s	in the comments if you if you want us to
5604s	to have a look at your at your game so
5606s	you have any other questions regarding
5608s	polyopia it doesn't have to be about
5611s	Kali anything please
5614s	ask okay let's watch the game okay so
5619s	right here um we
5621s	got uh a leg
5624s	game miror match up once again mhm again
5628s	LS whyu and dark green and me in Orange
5634s	and this actually was the final game of
5637s	the polium monthly finals well it was
5639s	game two was second game of the polium
5642s	monthly finals mhm and the finals always
5645s	are best of three at this point I won
5648s	the first game so it was up
5650s	one and yeah if I end up winning this
5653s	game
5655s	then um I win the entire tournament uh
5659s	two Z and if I lose there will be
5662s	another game well to decide who ends up
5666s	winning it
5669s	all okay so we got legs right here once
5672s	again side miror match
5675s	up um yeah looking at the spawn I think
5680s	mine looks quite nicely I got this water
5682s	excess which um whyou doesn't have and
5687s	neither of us can level three the
5689s	capital with just one
5692s	tag but the advantage why you has is
5695s	that he can take hunting and I have the
5697s	advantage that I can take fishing
5701s	mhm yeah let's see how it plays out
5704s	standard openings once again I'm a bit
5707s	surprised or well I was AIT surprised
5710s	that why you did not decide to go for
5712s	that animal the center like usually you
5715s	want to explore towards the center first
5725s	two
5726s	Farms
5731s	czy yeah and in all those games there
5733s	are
5734s	like so so many resources it's I think
5740s	um it's not that my perspective right
5743s	here M this turn I was not happy like it
5748s	looks like
5750s	um this lake or it looks like I'm
5754s	definitely at the smaller side of the
5757s	lake right there's this water indicator
5759s	over there so it's probably going to be
5761s	even more water over there and this city
5764s	isn't even connected to the vess so I
5766s	can't get a port connection there but it
5769s	at least has good resources so getting a
5771s	giant there should be
5776s	possible yeah both end up taking a
5780s	workshop
5784s	I forgot to put on auto
5788s	mode yeah another Workshop here now I
5792s	find this land connection mhm and I
5795s	think at this point I should
5797s	probably enable a disable shared
5800s	for because now it's going to be more
5803s	relevant oh yeah he even takes an
5805s	Explorer
5807s	mhm um but he doesn't see oh it gets the
5810s	lighthouse mm but he does not meet me so
5814s	do not get the meeting STS yet oh you
5816s	okay you were able to sneak this
5818s	Defender there yeah now I take an
5821s	Explorer like I want to get some
5824s	information was space guaranteed that I
5826s	find something but I did not meet him
5829s	which I wasn't very happy about as
5834s	well yeah I think I'm considering okay
5837s	how do I get the
5839s	giant um he gets hunting he does not
5843s	know what I'm there like that mhm and
5846s	now I'm moving in I get a port because I
5849s	want to take the cities on the other
5852s	side like now wait and now he knows now
5856s	he
5857s	knows but there's like not a lot he can
5859s	do about it I guess he could get four
5862s	units there to kill me but at the same
5868s	time so would you say that what this was
5871s	like kind
5872s	of H
5874s	a mistake on their part that they did
5876s	not explore this this uh yeah it's hard
5881s	this area I looked at the like I looked
5884s	at it once I looked at it like multiple
5886s	times mhm and I came to a conclusion
5889s	like it's not necessarily a mistake to
5892s	not go there like it also perfectly
5894s	makes sense to explore the west and the
5896s	north first so I guess he kind of got
5900s	unlucky that he didn't explore that area
5902s	early on if he explored area here would
5904s	have obviously got red City instead of
5911s	me yeah I think I'm going for the
5913s	lighthouse so I can get a giant Capital
5916s	yeah and
5917s	some tasty ruins there I see and I
5921s	landed Warrior because yeah I want that
5923s	area over there oh okay ruin meditation
5928s	from
5934s	and yeah I wonder if he if he couldn't
5936s	go for uh what it's called philosophy
5940s	the last Med the technology after
5943s	meditation philosophy philosophy
5946s	yeah I mean he's at a disadvantage right
5951s	now I'm not sure if you want to take
5954s	philosophy like a tech with kind of scal
5958s	into the late game I guess if you're at
5959s	such a disadvantage
5962s	already yeah I guess that's f right now
5964s	you need something to like mhm maybe you
5967s	could go it later on but I wouldn't go
5970s	it
5974s	yet yeah I take an Explorer there of
5978s	course but to end up revealing I get the
5981s	Eastern Lighthouse which is not bad
5984s	which allows me to immediately get a
5985s	giant mhm I guess I would have
5991s	G now
5993s	you could debate whether I should get
5996s	first yeah like what about uh so you
6000s	were you were that conf confident that
6003s	you wouldn't lose this city that you
6005s	wouldn't even consider like a wall there
6009s	because it's you know in that City over
6011s	there seeing this giant it's like uh
6014s	yeah okay but like the giant takes a
6017s	while and like if you go for a city ball
6020s	you lose five stars like it yeah sure
6023s	but it's just two tiles so like it's not
6025s	three it's not
6026s	four
6028s	um I wouldn't be comfortable with the
6031s	with it like right here and especially
6034s	that that you know you have just this
6036s	like a you know the you don't have a a
6039s	wide uh um land bridge to support this
6043s	city to be fair if he went if he went
6046s	wall um green can just go for the
6049s	archers and me can't really do anything
6052s	about it
6054s	like he would he could get the city
6057s	anyway having archers or catapult behind
6062s	yeah but still it's it's a lot of units
6064s	to to kill Defender thing you're
6066s	ignoring because um I can just pop a
6070s	giant in that City if I want to like the
6072s	city has pop a giant okay
6077s	fair yeah I also place the park of
6079s	Fortune here right like um what I fought
6083s	moment is I need three fruits fish
6086s	animal and port and I can get a giant if
6089s	he decides to make a move for it and
6091s	this buy me like a lot of time M like
6094s	he's at three cities right now I'm at
6097s	four and like another one that's easy to
6099s	claim and here's another one where it's
6101s	easy to claim so I can easily get six
6104s	cities mhm and I also have control over
6108s	this slake down here but you can't
6110s	really contest
6117s	like he does obviously the correct thing
6118s	here with going for Archers yeah no I
6121s	get this Explorer there pretty
6124s	bad so you got it from the from the ruin
6126s	right yeah but this other ruin also gave
6129s	an Explorer which at least was better
6132s	because now I got all lighthouses yeah I
6135s	and yeah end up using two Scouts which I
6138s	actually saved Just Enough stars to be
6140s	able to do this was on purpose so I
6143s	could
6149s	City but you're also going to see um
6152s	some problems arise because of that
6154s	right like he's messing archers on the
6158s	land I can't really go for Archers
6160s	myself because like on my like I'm cut
6163s	off by water right like I would have to
6165s	yeah it doesn't make any sense for you
6167s	to
6168s	get but like if I land The Archers like
6171s	they're probably in range of his units
6172s	already why explod why why this last
6176s	okay so I I'll explain what I thought
6178s	like I see the situation right here I'm
6181s	at I'm going to be six cities
6185s	against three mhm maybe four later on
6189s	but where this city right here I thought
6192s	I can get that one easily so it should
6194s	be like Seven Cities against four mhm
6197s	and I thought the only way I lose this
6199s	is if I get like surprised by something
6201s	he trains in this one city I do not have
6204s	Vision
6206s	okay yeah I guess it's fair mhm you have
6210s	such an advantage that it doesn't matter
6214s	this
6217s	[Music]
6219s	much but like I obviously still have a
6222s	problem of how the map is laid out
6224s	because he can use land units while I'm
6227s	forced to use naed units mhm so more
6230s	expensive
6231s	mhm yeah he goes for Siege goes for a
6235s	border
6236s	growth and more
6238s	archers why border growth doesn't give
6242s	him any
6245s	anything maybe water AES I don't know
6249s	but it's on the other side of this or
6252s	something like that
6253s	okay yeah I hit the I deal some damage
6257s	to the Giant and
6258s	then my own Giant
6261s	[Music]
6264s	he actually manages to deny that City
6266s	from
6271s	me and yeah he's just using ah yeah here
6274s	you see it mths
6277s	and yeah so he got
6280s	shine that's why he bought a Grove but
6283s	now I land my next
6285s	Defender Pi up would wouldn't he get it
6288s	anyways the this Soul m is in a in a
6291s	place where like it doesn't it doesn't
6294s	give him anything maybe it helps him
6296s	with the capital right like you could
6299s	see it that way like the capital if he
6302s	Place s here in the capital it gets
6305s	population and there Factor mhm um later
6311s	on the game it's nice to control more
6313s	area to deny your opponent roads mhm
6317s	yeah yeah but it's like you are not on
6320s	this continent so um I think it be
6323s	easier for for you to cloak cloak
6328s	him I I don't think I can go for cloaks
6331s	here like there so many
6333s	archers cloak cloaks are a unit you go
6335s	for when you have control yeah but you
6338s	see this here far away so like I I see
6340s	that that you like you sneak a cloak and
6343s	then you know attack one of his cities
6347s	cuz he doesn't have Vision on you he
6349s	doesn't have any Vision on you I have to
6352s	really pay attention to like not just
6354s	die to all this pressure he's putting
6356s	here right like yeah here's what s I was
6358s	talking about M and if he didn't go for
6360s	a border growth he would not have had
6362s	this population okay mhm so I guess yeah
6366s	that's
6369s	true yeah swordsman ruin here like I was
6372s	really hoping to get like some ruins
6375s	like some tech or something like that CU
6378s	my problem really was like his like he
6380s	just has a better Army composition here
6383s	M for the land
6385s	fight I can't really contest that like I
6387s	need a knight or something to be able to
6389s	deal with this
6391s	[Music]
6392s	m and like right here just two archers
6395s	to kill a Defender Scout from me right
6397s	like archers cost three defend SC costs
6401s	eight so yeah
6403s	mhm that's why I said that um land units
6408s	are just better to use if you have a
6410s	choice between them and nabl units
6413s	yeah the Explorer at least reveals my
6416s	Capital mhm not two of your cities are
6420s	still hidden
6422s	so so there is still some potential is
6426s	in a really annoying position for me
6429s	yeah I can't reach it I I can't do
6432s	anything about it because I don't have
6435s	any control over the
6436s	[Music]
6440s	land yeah he takes his own Riders
6445s	I go for navigation here you could this
6449s	is debatable
6450s	move like 25 starts for navigation 15
6454s	for a
6456s	bomber this city over here really
6458s	expensive to defend
6460s	right there's this giant I I think I
6464s	thought about popping my own giant where
6466s	to deal with
6470s	this but like this Spa gets so much
6472s	splash damage and now I'm moving up my
6475s	Scouts to the coastline so that's that's
6479s	like a pretty risky move but I thought
6481s	if he uses archers to kill or to attack
6484s	my Scouts yeah then gets
6488s	another oh yeah and they might even be
6491s	in range of my
6493s	bomber now he could use his Riders but
6496s	then he would be forced to check
6498s	roads yeah all all expensive yeah
6514s	yeah so I managed to un Siege this but
6518s	in the other City yeah I managed to uneg
6520s	it as well so now this the way I uneg
6526s	this
6527s	um yeah I'm not sure if it was the
6530s	correct play
6534s	like I'm using fish and two ports
6537s	instead of fish and two Lumber Huts
6539s	obviously shortterm it would be more
6541s	expensive mhm and I would have to chop a
6543s	few forests
6545s	now but long term Lumber Huts are just
6549s	better right because I also get forestry
6552s	which would help me to get a giant
6554s	capital for example like the city is
6556s	sitting at four out of six population
6560s	mhm yeah I in r in retrospective I
6565s	wasn't happy with that
6572s	decision am I moving my Scouts am I
6575s	moving my draft onto the other starfish
6578s	as well okay I'm
6581s	not I think you're preparing for the
6584s	siege of this Village to deny
6588s	him um yeah I yeah I prepared to deny
6593s	the defender City but now he was able to
6598s	just immediately kill my giant with the
6600s	help of teing R oh
6605s	damn so yeah I end up losing with City
6608s	anyways even built him a bunch of ports
6610s	in the
6612s	process yeah that's that's a and because
6616s	like I cannot T them on land I am forced
6619s	to defend on water but water units are
6622s	just so much more expensive
6625s	defensive and now I move for scouts over
6627s	there to force them to spend a bunch of
6629s	stars on roads not sure if it was the
6631s	correct
6643s	decision see yeah he's like basically
6646s	dealing free damage to my Scouts he
6648s	picks up free spirit M yeah he's
6651s	definitely thinking about Knights
6658s	yeah but I I would argue if if a knight
6660s	is a is is a right play here because
6663s	like you don't have like any almost any
6667s	um land units
6670s	so and killing you know uh Naval units
6674s	with with the Knight it's it's that's a
6675s	that's a
6678s	stretch yeah but like there's no way for
6681s	him to fight water right like
6683s	I control the
6685s	lake yeah sure but like uh the catapults
6689s	uh are are better in in those kind of
6691s	situations I guess then yeah but the
6693s	reason why you would also want Knights
6696s	mhm in the green perspective
6700s	is this bomber over here I'm not allowed
6702s	to do that nice right like you could
6704s	just okay sure all the way through no
6707s	I'm not saying they are completely
6708s	useless but because you don't have that
6711s	many uh land units it's
6714s	kind of not a good return on investment
6716s	I'd
6718s	say I agree but like he doesn't really
6722s	have any other
6725s	option like what what else is he
6728s	supposed to do he could go he could go
6730s	markets like his Market spots aren't
6734s	great he could go cloaks but at the end
6738s	of the day he might be cloaking level
6740s	five
6740s	City but he's cloaking his a city where
6743s	I have like bombers prepared like
6745s	bombers are actually pretty good at
6747s	dealing with
6749s	daggers yes jokes wouldn't really be a b
6752s	condition
6756s	either so like this only really leaves
6760s	Knights or Giants or something like that
6762s	mhm but Giants at the end of the day
6765s	probably just get bursted by all these
6767s	units I've prepared in the
6769s	water maybe he should have went markets
6773s	like you say yeah maybe originally he
6776s	should have planned to go markets
6778s	but he doesn't really have the option to
6781s	go markets anymore because like doesn't
6784s	have good Market spots
6795s	no yeah right here I don't know if this
6798s	was correct to hit ah he wanted the
6800s	veteran Archer that's why he didit the
6802s	Archer last
6804s	yeah I take the starfish and now I pick
6806s	up chivalry
6810s	M yeah for you it makes a lot of sense
6813s	to get the I believe I get two knights
6815s	in this turn now take a look at this he
6819s	does not know
6821s	like the two cities where trained the
6824s	knights in are the two cities he does
6826s	not have Vision on
6836s	yeah but he he RS in the full HP giant
6839s	because he wants to make sure that he
6840s	gets his village it would be his six
6843s	City so he would get the grand Bazar
6845s	yeah but why why would he move this
6848s	catapult back it's like it was a strange
6852s	kind of here yeah I think he he could
6858s	have looked at the scoreboard while me
6862s	was playing and he has enough Vision to
6866s	to decide what if he went for the
6869s	knights or not like if he wants to keep
6872s	the Catapult
6873s	there he has to like get rid of all the
6876s	Riders like he knows that I've been
6877s	raiding and that I've been training
6879s	Riders down here all the time so that
6881s	catapult is in range of my Riders right
6884s	okay mhm yeah Fair M you don't re want
6888s	the cat yeah but like this is like a bit
6890s	of coincidence that you go Knights and
6892s	then he moved he SC away so yeah a
6897s	bit but I don't think he suspected and I
6900s	looking it the way he position his units
6904s	so like I was seeing this and then I saw
6909s	this and yeah like just take a look at
6912s	what's about to happen first you have to
6914s	make some space then the roads are
6917s	placed and now it's
6920s	time first Rider second Rider Rider thir
6923s	Rider catapult and two more
6928s	Riders yeah but were're like five Riders
6931s	and a catapult 23 Stars worth of
6936s	units yeah for eight
6944s	mhm okay so he finally gets this Village
6949s	yeah the problem is to get the grand
6951s	Bazar he's still needs to get a
6953s	connection to the city in the north
6956s	that's why he builds Port but he doesn't
6958s	actually play
6960s	superar yeah that's strange but like
6965s	over for Capital Siege with the defender
6968s	and at the same time a night Siege onto
6971s	the other City
6975s	here yeah good game mhm yeah so he could
6980s	have un sieged the capital because he
6982s	still had
6986s	um
6987s	MH but at the end of the day you're
6990s	placing a you're getting a giant in this
6992s	area like oh yeah he got chivalry wait
6996s	when did he get
6998s	chivalry yeah he did but ultimately he
7002s	didn't really have any spot to to train
7006s	it yeah he got chivalry right here but
7009s	because my knight is still alive back
7011s	there does not feel comfortable to make
7014s	a night there m
7020s	yeah yeah so how would you summarize the
7023s	this
7028s	game
7032s	um well I believe the map layout is
7036s	probably better for him but because he
7039s	did not explore towards Southwest of his
7041s	capital I was able to sneak that City
7044s	there should have been his and yeah it
7048s	was
7050s	unfortunate that was pretty much a key
7054s	City yeah he spent so much time
7056s	attacking it but like I kind of saw it
7060s	coming and then invested just enough to
7062s	be able to defend it and at the same
7065s	time I was like messing up
7068s	bombers like bombers in isolation aren't
7071s	that strong
7073s	like they're also really expensive but
7076s	once you have like I don't know six or
7080s	seven bombers set up there like no way
7082s	of going through anymore
7085s	mhm and like I was on like a slightly
7088s	higher economy throughout the entire
7090s	game and I also had to invest in more
7093s	expensive units but I also like
7096s	recognize how I have to play this map
7098s	out because like if I'm going for land
7100s	units here I only have this one passage
7103s	this one tiny
7105s	passage to go through right so archers
7108s	are not really an option for me which
7109s	you usually want to go for in the land
7111s	batt
7114s	mhm and yeah another problem with like
7118s	going Naval here is also that I only
7119s	have like limited area where I can
7121s	upgrade
7123s	cities um but I think over
7126s	all I I can probably be quite happy
7129s	about how I played with Z why you
7132s	probably should have
7134s	considered to either prepare markets to
7137s	win for like
7139s	SBT
7140s	M or even go for a cloak
7145s	Crush
7149s	H yeah
7153s	um yeah so now now when I'm thinking
7155s	about this so uh you know me being just
7158s	an observer I think that the pivotal
7161s	point was was you get think this this
7163s	city obviously on his
7165s	continent uh but
7168s	then
7170s	um yeah maybe maybe the the the knights
7174s	were actually a better play for him than
7177s	the t the
7180s	catapults so he put have a a good fight
7183s	because it's you know for for a long
7185s	time he's been on three cities against
7187s	your you know five or six cities so it's
7192s	it was it was a huge
7194s	disadvantage yeah Ma was also denying
7197s	him the East the West City Village from
7201s	from
7204s	capturing yeah theay control there yeah
7208s	so this this early mistake I think set
7210s	up the the game pretty much
7213s	but um yeah it's
7216s	like it's hard to say if if some some
7220s	tech would have changed the um the
7222s	outcome because even if you got
7225s	those um two cities back then your Navy
7230s	was already quite uh you know strong and
7234s	um I like you're Green in this position
7237s	right here right let's go um turn
7240s	10 okay so now turn 11 he's going to
7243s	have 29 Stars
7248s	mm I like he's going to Siege the city
7252s	now here is the thing what can I do
7254s	about
7257s	this and like the way I see it
7260s	[Music]
7263s	is um that I orange am forced to make a
7267s	giant in that City to be able to defend
7269s	it
7270s	mhm so if the only way your opponent can
7273s	defend is by making a giant then I would
7277s	always go for diplomacy and train a
7279s	cloak back there mhm
7283s	like I wouldn't be able to do anything
7285s	to prevent him from chain cloaking that
7287s	City and because he forces me to make a
7289s	giant be he will get five daggers every
7292s	turn M yeah it would be expensive to get
7296s	rid of them every turn would it would it
7299s	make a would it make a difference if you
7302s	if he
7303s	stepped on this fruit with with his
7306s	Archer or or would you be able to anyway
7311s	he did
7312s	no yeah oh yeah he h yeah I didn't see
7315s	the the fruit over there yeah so I was I
7318s	was thinking there's nothing there
7320s	yeah okay so it didn't make any any
7323s	difference yeah yeah so yeah I I I
7326s	totally agree that uh that probably on
7328s	this uh uh at this stage the the cloaks
7332s	would have been better because then uh
7335s	he
7335s	would easily you know uh like uh chain
7341s	you with with clo for for a couple of
7343s	turns definitely because
7346s	you you had nothing to to actually push
7350s	back against against them so five
7353s	daggers every turn that's that's a
7355s	that's a big uh Advantage
7359s	yeah yeah what I want to say is that
7361s	crali is a lot about recognizing your
7364s	wind condition right especially inali
7366s	legs like as I said in the beginning
7369s	crali you have like a lot of different
7371s	options you have to pick from and like
7374s	you have to recognize what is your win
7376s	condition in this game and then you have
7379s	to go for it like right here he did not
7381s	notice that diplomacy was way to go for
7384s	him to win this
7386s	game yeah but actually was it a so do do
7390s	you do you see any any because you know
7394s	from my perspective the even the with
7396s	the clocks it was uh it was rather kind
7399s	of to um something to keep him in the
7402s	game not not to win because it's you
7405s	already have a a huge Advantage like
7407s	City advantage and uh and he has almost
7411s	nothing to yeah but you're talking about
7414s	the city Advantage but his position on
7417s	the map on paper is still a lot better
7421s	because he has controlled over the land
7423s	mass so he can make land units I have
7426s	control over a leg so all I can do all I
7429s	can really do is like na units
7433s	also because if he went for the cloaks
7436s	he could play for the long game and go
7440s	markets yeah sure but like I I would
7442s	still argue that it's uh for him
7445s	flipping the the game would be really
7448s	difficult uh as for you you know winning
7451s	the game was was was actually quite easy
7454s	so there wasn't there wasn't even at one
7457s	moment when saw the game play out right
7460s	when you could have like you know sweat
7462s	on your on your on your forehead so it
7465s	was obviously you would lose one or two
7468s	CS uh but it's like uh I I I didn't see
7472s	any any kind of uh actual threat for you
7476s	to to lose this
7479s	game uh I would say that the threat was
7482s	that he goes for cloaks because I'm
7484s	forced to go for a giant defense in the
7485s	front City
7487s	mhm because like defending cloaks in
7490s	front City often is almost impossible
7493s	especially when you don't have control
7494s	over the land mhm and then like as you
7497s	say saw play out already even though he
7500s	wasn't even able to to like this crazy
7503s	pressure that cloaks could put on
7505s	against the city he was still able to
7508s	get like these other cities over there
7510s	eventually so now you just have to keep
7513s	in mind like what would a game look
7516s	like if he was chain cloaking me in a
7519s	level five City over here every single
7521s	turn yeah I agree that it it would have
7523s	been you know kind at least
7525s	uncomfortable for you um but I I don't
7529s	see this this like kind of flipping the
7531s	the game because then obviously you can
7533s	you know go for for Knights and uh you
7536s	know chain like estimating how high the
7539s	cost of investment inight is because
7543s	like I have to invest a lot to keep him
7545s	away from the other cities and so on MH
7548s	and like to even keep the city over
7550s	there alive mm M and like I will have
7553s	high tech cost because I have a lot of
7556s	cities and at the same time my income
7559s	will be low because like my one city
7561s	like where or like one of the two cities
7563s	where I got a giant is constantly being
7564s	sieged that's five stars gone every
7567s	single turn yeah that's quite a lot to
7570s	invest at the same
7573s	time yeah so for for me the only
7575s	situation when where he could you know
7578s	take full advantage of the cloaks was
7580s	like if in his Capital he had a you know
7584s	like one tile of of uh of water and then
7588s	you know like placing a a port there and
7591s	why does need a port to hit cloaks like
7593s	you can just hit cloaks from a land yeah
7595s	but it's you know like I said it's just
7597s	just this one city so he doesn't have
7599s	access to to any other of your cities
7601s	because they're are protected by the by
7604s	the Water Mass five units every single
7607s	turn yeah I I I agree but yeah still
7613s	it's like uh he was he was on a on a
7616s	disadvantage position from the from the
7618s	very beginning so the cloaks could
7622s	have uh made made a some difference but
7626s	I don't think it was it was a win
7628s	condition there so that the only kind of
7631s	like a silver board bullet that that
7633s	would change the uh the whole
7637s	game yeah that's the way that's the way
7642s	way I see
7644s	it so interesting game because because
7647s	even though he had just three cities for
7650s	most of the game he was able to uh to
7653s	hold so kudos for uh who was your
7658s	opponent yeah yeah so yeah so so like uh
7664s	yeah good uh like thumbs up for for him
7667s	but I think was a good fight but but uh
7672s	because of this uh first you know
7674s	unfortunate expansion he he kind of
7677s	threw the game
7680s	there
7683s	yeah any other things that you would
7686s	like to
7690s	share not
7692s	really go ahead go
7700s	ahead what me say that there is nothing
7704s	not much really to add
7707s	because there were only two two situ
7712s	that completely changed the game the
7714s	first one was him missing this city and
7716s	the other one was him not getting the
7718s	cloaks mhm yeah nothing nothing really
7722s	else he could have changed in my opinion
7725s	mhm okay changing the subject are you
7728s	already in the in the HRI polium are you
7731s	playing
7733s	like right now mhm no I mean not in this
7737s	moment I I hope you're are focused on
7739s	the live stream but like I think the
7742s	tournaments already started so yeah we
7744s	got eight already I think okay mhm yeah
7749s	no the seventh one is happening right
7751s	now no
7753s	uhuh no seventh yeah so if you want to
7758s	participate in one of the polium
7761s	tournaments
7762s	yourself and the next one is going to be
7765s	happening in 4 hours and 50 minutes from
7768s	now yeah the the the link to the
7770s	Challenger mode you have to sign up
7773s	obviously is in the in the description
7776s	so uh if you like hudrick uh just go
7780s	ahead and and
7782s	join yeah um so if you if you don't have
7787s	anything to add my Noble guests we don't
7791s	have any any
7793s	submissions uh so I guess everyone knows
7796s	everything about
7797s	polyopia as of now so we will be
7802s	wrapping up this uh this live
7805s	stream so like I said uh the HRI
7809s	tournaments are happening um this month
7812s	so feel free to join and uh we'll uh
7816s	meet for another highlights uh in in one
7820s	month time to analyze more and more
7823s	games this time from from
7826s	Buri so thank you for for being with us
7829s	my lamp and and vorce and everyone thank
7832s	you for for watching and see you on the
7836s	next live streams and and our
7840s	videos yeah it was
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