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66s	hello polytopians uh welcome to the
68s	polytopia official channel uh today we
71s	have a vanar polium highlights for you
75s	uh my name is Adam AKA G aul AKA
79s	M um as always I have fantastic guests
83s	with me uh two professional polyopia
87s	players uh multiple bullet champions and
90s	in general great friends of the polyopia
94s	folk
96s	um sorry let me add them hi Reaper hi
101s	Cloud welcome to the stream hello hello
105s	my name is Reaper uh I'm a former bullet
107s	champion and I've also won polium before
111s	um I'm glad to be with you
113s	all yeah we'll talk about polium a bit
116s	uh later in the
118s	Stream hi cloud
122s	can you hear
125s	us hello
128s	hello okay maybe Cloud will will join us
131s	uh uh later um okay uh before we start
138s	uh as a as a bit of a like a
140s	warmup
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143s	um uh no we can't we can't hear you
146s	Cloud maybe you should like
150s	uh just sign out and sign in
155s	again hell can you guys hear me yeah now
158s	we can hear there go um yeah I'm Cloud
161s	glider I'm the house leader of Tempest
163s	and uh I sometimes play some policy but
167s	not too often okay yeah Reaper is more
170s	and more
171s	experienced uh in in Challenger mode um
174s	okay before we start uh I have a I have
177s	a question about uh some uh uh big uh
181s	recent events in the world of polyopia
184s	so the um mijan has released the aquar
189s	aquarium updates uh how do you find the
191s	the Forgotten and all the uh balance
194s	changes around the the aquarium have you
197s	had had a chance to uh to play
200s	them yes uh I've actually played quite a
203s	few games with them I think the most
205s	interesting about it is uh the bubbles
208s	uh I like that cuz you know they kind of
210s	nerfed um the amphibians and stuff a
212s	little bit with them not being able to
214s	use roads anymore so I think giving them
216s	that extra movement um is definitely
219s	worthwhile and it makes crabs just you
221s	know slightly more uh deadly and and
223s	more useful you know before crabs were
225s	kind of looked at as you know a really
227s	weak super unit and they weren't worth
229s	getting now they're they're kind of
231s	important you know just because you know
233s	they can move you know faster than a
235s	giant can and you know so it makes them
237s	more U more versatile in different
239s	positions
241s	um so
243s	yeah Cloud yeah I definitely like them
246s	um I really like the skin actually I
249s	think it's one of my favorite skins and
251s	yeah J are really fun units sharks are a
255s	little bit stronger too like that they
256s	increase the attack by5 3.5 in doesn't
260s	seem like a big difference but it allows
263s	it to onot units like Warriors and
267s	Riders and things like that which
268s	actually is like really big difference
271s	so yeah a lot of people were complaining
273s	about the Sharks kind of being
274s	overpriced because you know like they
277s	can't really do much and it's you know
278s	eight Stars per per unit so it's
281s	like not a big not a good deal for for
285s	for shark yeah yeah but you know with
288s	all units right uh it's not like you can
290s	have just if you just Spam crabs right
292s	and you only have crabs well crabs
294s	aren't going to win you the game right
295s	you need to complement it with other
297s	units right uh for instance I mean if
299s	you put jellies in front of sharks then
301s	they become super deadly uh you know
303s	because then you have jellies tanking
306s	the damage and you can just have sharks
307s	you know clear up any units in the way
309s	so yeah I mean I think they're they're a
311s	great kind of a backline um offensive
314s	tool right you know if you hold them uh
317s	for a while and you just like store up
318s	you know one or two maybe three then you
320s	could instantly kill any super unit
322s	that's you know in front of you which I
324s	think is extremely powerful
327s	so yeah I agree yeah having the uh the
331s	surprise or the the one that makes them
334s	not take retaliation damage is
335s	definitely good
338s	mhm yeah it's it's surprised yeah
342s	surprised I got to say I do miss the old
344s	trien game or fun gam play of just
349s	storing up a bunch of trident and just
351s	having them hit and run away and just
353s	keep doing
354s	that yeah so
358s	yeah yeah I I do Miss uh the tri denion
361s	surely they they were a little bit uh
363s	overpowered in the previous update uh
367s	but yeah no now I I think they got a
369s	healthy Nerf you know um I I do think uh
372s	I mean if you still had them like versus
375s	you still had previous trid ditions
376s	right against the you know current
378s	jellies I don't think jellies would
380s	really stand a chance
382s	so be too strong yeah so I think you
385s	know now I think now that you know you
387s	need another unit to make him worthwhile
389s	right like you need jellies in front um
391s	to try and weaken the units and then you
393s	can kind of chain with a tridion or
395s	whatever so I mean I do think they're
397s	still viable but uh maybe in like late
399s	game scenarios I don't know if they're
401s	that good in in early game anymore
403s	though yeah well finally I think
405s	Aquarian is not uh just like a kind of
408s	one uh oneway tribe so like going to uh
413s	going for TR trien that there are like
415s	many more options uh you know while
417s	playing them so yeah yeah of course
422s	mhm Okie do um yeah so maybe one last
428s	question before we start uh start
430s	watching those replays uh so have you
433s	been have you tried competing in in
435s	Challenger mode format uh what are the
438s	differences between the the poly Champs
440s	bullet and the and the polium if you
442s	could share a few details about that um
446s	so bullet um you know it's on Tiny Maps
450s	um some of it can be very uh you know
453s	depending on spawns and stuff obviously
455s	you know those always play a factor but
457s	you know in bullet um a lot of just like
459s	um you know unit management and micro um
463s	you know and interactions are normally
465s	what determine you know who wins and
467s	stuff and polium though it's a little
469s	bit larger Maps you know normally on
471s	small um and then of course you know the
474s	tribe that you know in these games are
476s	Wenger um you know you have you can have
479s	a little bit more versa il on both sides
480s	you know you can go you know with venger
482s	you can go you know I see a lot of
484s	people try to go into archery you know a
486s	lot of people just like spamming swords
488s	you know is
489s	fair and so uh poly seeum it's it's a
492s	little bit longer format I think bullet
494s	it's you know matches can last Ian if
496s	you go into end game then may be 40
498s	minutes but normally games end you know
500s	10 15 minutes in po Sims games can last
503s	you know I don't know depending on the
505s	player if they're both you know very
507s	good then 30 to 40 minutes so I think it
510s	provides a little bit more indepth games
513s	than it does
516s	bullet Cloud I definitely think that
519s	bullet ends a lot faster just because
522s	you know the map size is a little bit
525s	smaller I think the larger size does
527s	allow for more complex interaction and
529s	reaching later stages of the game on
531s	average but at the cost of you know
533s	longer games also like that in bullet
537s	because uh we stream it and play it live
540s	in the VCS and poly Champions you can
544s	also talk to your opponents after the
546s	game I think for Challenger mode you
548s	also have that uh message feature but I
551s	think it's less used I'm not sure Reaper
555s	have you have you ever texted your your
558s	opponent
560s	um I don't remember I know I know people
563s	have messaged me before um in it but I I
567s	hardly I I don't really use it myself I
570s	just use Discord that's the best way to
572s	to contact me really sure I think i'
575s	I've had like one person contact me on
578s	like Challenger mode after a tournament
580s	they were like oh GG's dude and then it
582s	turns out they mistook me for another
587s	person okay that's that's nice okay yeah
592s	uh so thanks for sharing um so let's
595s	let's dive into the the
598s	games so I'll add my
601s	screen yeah because today we have uh we
604s	experienced some some technical
607s	difficulties so it will be so I will be
611s	operating
612s	the the stream sorry the
616s	the uh the
618s	steam uh and uh our commentators will be
621s	giving me some some guidelines what uh I
625s	should
626s	do um yeah okay so the first game is
632s	between uh Chris and pamper
637s	treasure
640s	mhm so let's look at the look at the
644s	spawns
646s	first all right so we see um white or
650s	Chris has uh five forests and a in a
652s	mountain and within venger venger
654s	borders uh all of their mountains are
657s	guaranteed to have um gold than them so
660s	or or so uh at least you know he he
664s	could go climbing but it looks like he
666s	has a nice uh you know path into
668s	forestry U meanwhile it looks like
670s	pamper treasure has two forests and two
673s	mountains um you know not as many Forest
676s	you know maybe he'll lean into mining uh
679s	smith3 um but I don't know we'll
683s	see Cloud any comments density wise I'm
687s	liking Chris's spawn a little bit better
690s	he does have access to Villages that
692s	have a little bit more land we can see
695s	he has like access to these three
696s	villages that doesn't look like they can
698s	be easily contested
700s	MH his and there's these two ruins too
703s	so if these are like Star ruins or some
705s	really good ruins they could be really
708s	impactful on the outcome of the game on
710s	the other hand his opponent does have
713s	access to two Villages kind of on the
716s	site here if we scroll over to Green
718s	bengar side a bit mhm yep they do have
723s	these two Villages one being like really
725s	in the corner with having that
727s	Lighthouse block that Forge spot is a
729s	little bit unfortunate but yeah that's
731s	that's sad yeah I would say Chris's
734s	spawn here looks a little bit nicer but
737s	he does have a
739s	little it does look like they're going
741s	to be kind of fighting most of their
744s	battle on this narrow this is this is
747s	Lakes map okay yeah yeah
751s	okay so let's play the
754s	replay all righty so they both go for
757s	the Warrior
758s	opening both spr out okay it looks like
761s	okay both of them set their units
763s	different
766s	directions so we have we have pamper
768s	treasury sending his Warrior over to the
770s	West you know trying to scoop up that
772s	Village there and then we have him
773s	sending his swordsman towards the center
775s	um actually no sorry let me let me turn
779s	on the
780s	on the fog so we uh we see the how this
784s	developed not on yeah on the whole map
786s	yeah mhm all
789s	righty bit unfortunate where this where
792s	Chris sends off his first swordsman
794s	misses both The Villages here actually
797s	it looks like they might get an early
799s	meet on turn five yep and he decides to
802s	hit here which is a bit interesting
805s	considering if you hit the swordsman you
807s	actually can't kill it next turn you'll
809s	both be at 8 HP so I think that he was
813s	kind of going for a bluff here like I
815s	might have a unit behind I might not do
817s	decide to capture this Village still and
820s	it looks like pamper treasure does not
822s	fall for it and he goes ahead and hits
823s	the warrior
826s	anyways get sply
828s	Siege we can pause it so we see here uh
832s	Chris goes for an interesting riding
834s	play with um I'm I'm slightly interested
839s	to see why he went riding uh I mean
842s	because his resource kind of indicates
843s	more of a you know hunting into archery
846s	kind of style gameplay uh but I guess he
848s	since he missed those uh that you know
851s	and he didn't really get any Center
852s	Village until it looks like turn seven
854s	here um that you know he was trying to
856s	prioritize you know expanding and trying
859s	to scoop up more Villages um he also
861s	makes a play for paner Treasures South
863s	Village but uh you know with Wenger it's
866s	it's really hard to hold cities with
868s	riders uh just because they can have any
871s	swordsman in range and well their Riders
873s	you know your Rider's dead you're not
875s	holding that yeah it's one it's one shot
876s	for for for swordsman
880s	yeah Chris got his riding through the
883s	ruin so it was a bit of an it was
887s	questionable ruin I feel like it could
888s	have been better but I mean at least you
890s	can use writing it's not something like
891s	I don't know
893s	meditation but um yeah he got writing so
896s	I think he trained writers to try to
898s	utilize it to to the best of his
900s	abilities to maybe try to out expand his
902s	opponent at this point in the game the
904s	they don't know that the entire like
907s	Northwest half of the map is basically
910s	all water I think there's like two
912s	Villages there but um yeah at this point
916s	I think he's trying to play to out
918s	expand his opponent and try to shut down
920s	their expansion and what do you think
922s	about this play here uh so uh that the
926s	green hit the uh um the gray swordsman
931s	was it green that hit the gray or was it
933s	gray that hit the green no yeah you're
935s	right yeah the other way around okay
937s	yeah so gray hit the Green in order to
939s	finally get this kill and Siege this
942s	Village I
945s	think I think they were making a play to
947s	try to take the village since uh the
949s	village isn't really making too much
951s	since they took an Explorer rather than
952s	a workshop but you know with vaner you
954s	could really use every Star you can get
957s	um he is trading three stars when in the
960s	rider itself for The Siege but um I
964s	think it was worth the play worth the
965s	gamble maybe getting that Village could
967s	be pretty big and it also secures this
970s	uh West Village a little bit for him
973s	just makes it a little bit safer to
975s	capture although when he gets un sieged
978s	with that swordsman it means that even
980s	if he captures that way to Village it's
982s	immediately going to get sieged by a
984s	swordsman again okay let's
988s	continue okay
992s	so we see him un
994s	Siege okay so Chris finally grabs
999s	forestry just getting the that economy
1001s	up because venger their resources aren't
1004s	amazing but you know once you get that
1006s	economy rolling then they can start you
1008s	know really producing some sort of
1009s	offensive units gets a really nice
1012s	Explorer on pamper
1015s	treasure all right so we see just
1018s	picking up some units with those
1021s	Riders um oh yeah I like how Chris uh
1024s	actually stepped off that Village in the
1026s	East um not allowing pamper treasure to
1029s	actually kill his swordsman there um to
1032s	Siege and hold it he actually so what
1035s	this does is this delays pamper Treasure
1037s	by a turn from capturing that Village
1039s	and it also gives Chris one more turn to
1041s	try and prepare some sort of Defense to
1045s	try and maybe take that City uh you know
1047s	for himself um and so we'll see if Chris
1051s	has enough units there to uh to get that
1053s	vill we'll probably need a swordsman or
1056s	two to to help him
1062s	out yeah here we can see that they're
1065s	both going into climbing and they're
1066s	both training a lot of units they don't
1069s	want their opponents to get the military
1072s	advantage in NE way and Chris really
1075s	going aggressive and buying all the way
1077s	into roads here really trying to
1080s	outmaneuver his opponents with his
1082s	superior mobility and win that
1086s	way yeah you know I I run into a problem
1089s	with with Wanger often though is you
1091s	know you have all these Riders and stuff
1093s	but it takes four Riders to kill one
1095s	swordsman so if your opponent um can
1098s	just Spam Swordsmen and they get their
1099s	economy up then it can be really
1101s	Troublesome sometimes so some scorched
1103s	Earth here I see the because Chris knows
1106s	that he won't be able to hold this uh
1110s	qar um town he he I think he cut the all
1115s	the forest there so he cuts all the
1116s	forest you know just to take stars for
1118s	himself and it kind of prevents his
1120s	opponent from uh getting a giant there
1123s	um which you know is is a very smart
1127s	play all right so P to take it
1132s	back Pam treasure gets a star ruin oh
1136s	very nice yeah yeah so looks like
1139s	chopping a lot and just setting up their
1141s	Forge spots because starting with Smithy
1144s	is a very strong Tech but you can't
1146s	really properly utilize it until you
1148s	have Mining and climbing it does make
1150s	the mining and climbing branch that much
1152s	stronger but it also means that it's
1154s	pretty slow because you have to buy two
1156s	tanks you can utilize
1160s	the sorry interrupt you yeah double
1164s	Giant in
1166s	the yeah so we see a pamper treasure
1169s	popping uh two giants there uh that's
1171s	going to pose a really big problem for
1174s	for Chris you know he doesn't his
1175s	economy you know his cities are mostly
1177s	level one level two right he doesn't
1179s	have that much you know uh Stars per
1181s	turn for himself and you know that alone
1184s	he really only has some Riders and a few
1187s	Warriors um about so I'm interested to
1189s	see what what Chris ends up going for
1191s	here I think Archer would would be a
1193s	very nice play would just allow some
1195s	free damage on on those Giants and uh
1198s	would would really help him out I think
1200s	in the east as well just training
1202s	archers on his Capital to pick away at
1203s	those swordsman sieging his City right
1206s	now um but uh Chris right now his
1209s	economy he's at Nine Stars per turn
1211s	pamper treasure is I believe at 20 so um
1214s	facing a little bit of a of an of a an
1217s	economy
1218s	problem um Chris does get a star ruin
1221s	that allows for this crazy play throwing
1223s	down 1 2 3 4 five roads to get the UN
1227s	Siege and connecting two cities to c
1230s	yeah crazy play yeah I I would also like
1233s	to mention so if we pause the replay
1235s	real quick so if we look at how Chris
1237s	positioned his units um he he moved his
1240s	units one he moved his rider and his
1242s	warrior in the west one tole closer just
1244s	to slow those giants down right uh with
1246s	giants you know you you want them to be
1248s	slow and that you want to buy as much
1249s	time as possible before they can get to
1251s	your cities um so I think Chris from
1254s	moving his units there right he delays
1256s	those giants from you know ever getting
1258s	you know if pamper treasure were to try
1259s	and want to speed up the process of
1261s	getting those giants you know to his
1263s	cities right he could go riding and
1265s	Roads right and he definitely has the to
1267s	go for it um but Chris goes ahead and
1270s	you know he he blocks that play with a
1272s	you know positioning his units um a tile
1275s	closer just a zone of control those
1277s	units so that way they're not you know
1279s	rushing into his territory real quick I
1281s	I think that was a very key play because
1283s	it buys Chris just an extra an extra
1286s	turn of time uh to prepare uh any sort
1289s	of Defense in this position yeah and you
1292s	can see that even though I believe Chris
1294s	has they have the same number of cities
1297s	maybe Chris is Chris is up one city in
1299s	this position I believe treasure has
1302s	four and Chris has five but the main
1305s	difference here is that Chris just does
1307s	not have that many mines in his cities
1310s	whereas pamper treasure does so they can
1313s	really throw down mines throw down
1314s	forges and get a lot of population in
1317s	that way but Chris is two of Chris's
1320s	cities have no mindes and no force and
1323s	that's really hurting his e right now so
1325s	it's that first upgrade taking that
1327s	Workshop getting that extra star per
1330s	turn really builds up and stacks that is
1334s	what really gets you rolling in the
1335s	early game and the inability to do that
1338s	is really hurting Chris's Eco and he's
1340s	really going to have to come up with
1341s	something quick here in the face of
1343s	these two giants yeah I wonder if we'll
1345s	see from pamper treasure um the the
1348s	markets
1349s	uh I think markets here for for panford
1351s	Treasure would would be incredibly
1352s	strong it goes right into roads um and I
1356s	I think it would it would provide him a
1358s	just a massive Advantage right just
1360s	increasing his Stars per turn by uh
1362s	probably close to double um if if he can
1365s	if he can get some good um Market spots
1368s	down so uh but but we'll see what
1370s	happens in these next few turns I think
1371s	these next few turns he has some some
1374s	nice nice one here next to his capital
1378s	and then
1380s	yeah yeah I see that level four and he
1382s	can maybe get a level two in the corner
1385s	but that's about all see for now so like
1388s	six stars per
1391s	turn yeah let's see if if if it's worth
1394s	it and if if he chooses to go this path
1401s	yeah here Chris gets a lot of
1403s	connections to his Capital gets that
1405s	Lighthouse and he finally gets his own
1408s	Giant turn I
1411s	believe to move some units around
1413s	another Rider push it out
1417s	y but now it's one giant against two and
1420s	his giant is all the way in the back and
1421s	if we bring our attention to the
1423s	Northwest Edge if we pause it and go
1425s	back a little
1426s	bit oh go back a little bit the two
1430s	players are a little bit more to the
1434s	green bang Gear's turn we do see that
1437s	there's a war here that is slowly
1440s	advancing along the Northwest Edge and
1442s	Chris on the other hand also only has
1444s	one singular unit advancing and claiming
1447s	those Villages so while there's this big
1450s	fight going on on the other half of the
1452s	map there's these two lone Warriors that
1456s	are slowly advancing and inevitably
1459s	going to clash and we'll see here that
1462s	while the main battle is going on on the
1465s	other half of the map these two Warriors
1467s	will have a small tussle on their own as
1469s	they conquer these Villages and kind of
1471s	duke it out in their own way yeah I
1475s	think uh I think here in uh in Chris's
1477s	position uh right like um the the main
1481s	thing with roads right is is you try and
1483s	you know you want to get the Grand
1484s	Bazaar Monument right which you need to
1485s	connect five cities and uh we see here
1488s	that he only has maximum four cities he
1491s	would need to take one from pamper
1493s	treasure but you know Chris is kind of
1495s	on the defensive right now uh so I think
1497s	that's something that's really hurting
1498s	him right like when you go roads you
1500s	know you're trying to you know uh you
1502s	know get some fast expansion get some
1504s	Villages and get that get get that giant
1506s	going with the monument but he just he
1508s	just doesn't have that Monument this
1509s	game right his other city is all the way
1511s	up in the north um so yeah no no hope
1515s	for connection because there is a
1517s	mountain he yeah he would need to get uh
1520s	ports going which just I don't think
1522s	that that's he can't he can't afford
1524s	that right now right yep too expensive
1530s	yeah we can see that Chris is playing
1533s	using the rose to his advantage and
1535s	being careful about when he sends his
1537s	units in healing those riders that
1539s	attacked that swordsman
1541s	earlier P treasure goes for forry oh
1545s	sorry math here yeah there for does not
1550s	finish using does not finish the upgrade
1553s	unfortunately not have the St they don't
1557s	have the population for it
1561s	saying takes a
1566s	workshop okay gets Roose himself mhm but
1571s	was it from the ruin or did he get it
1573s	[Music]
1575s	um uh looks like he got with yeah he
1578s	bought them yeah I
1580s	think so this this just provides uh this
1584s	just this is really so this this
1586s	position right now this isn't looking
1587s	very good for for Chris and there's
1589s	there's a couple reasons why if we look
1591s	at where pamper treasure positioned his
1593s	Giants it blocks all of Chris's units uh
1597s	they have to go through uh one of those
1600s	two giants to uh access you know the
1603s	rest of the map um so I think this was a
1606s	very good play by pamper treasure to uh
1609s	kind of start sectioning off and closing
1612s	in uh Chris's Riders and stuff because
1615s	when Riders don't have a whole lot of
1616s	Mobility they kind of become like
1618s	Warriors right right you know they kind
1619s	of lose their you know you can constrict
1621s	them they lose their movement and
1622s	they're not as useful um but what also
1625s	what this does is with pamper Treasure
1627s	Moving his his Giants where they are he
1629s	also guarantees himself if he can
1631s	capture uh that City he's sieging now
1633s	with his giant then he gets that West
1635s	Village also uh like pretty guaranteed
1638s	um because Chris you know won't be able
1640s	to defend that so I think this was a
1643s	very very uh good move on on pamper
1645s	treasure part and I'm interested to see
1647s	how Chris manages to come back from
1650s	this enough Riders to kill kill off the
1653s	the Giants so yeah another purpose that
1656s	that giant serves right there is that it
1659s	prevents the Houdini if you look at the
1662s	number of units Chris has if he can just
1665s	get two Riders onto the tile south of
1668s	gork and Southwest of gork he can pull
1672s	off a Houdini with a monument he's been
1674s	saving his monument and you can see that
1676s	if he gets math he can pop a giant here
1679s	now if he's just able to Road those
1682s	Riders around and just somehow pull off
1685s	bounce with maybe that that Warrior
1688s	that's double south of gor and position
1691s	all his Riders to block off every tile
1694s	he can pop his giant and the siing giant
1696s	with nowhere to go will just vanish but
1700s	with that giant there Chris no longer
1702s	has any way of getting those giants to
1705s	those two tiles behind gor and unfort
1708s	they cannot pull off the Houdini which
1710s	would have been huge here without that
1712s	giant Chris would have a massive
1716s	Advantage so I think the Giant and the
1718s	roads play was really really good
1723s	here okay so looks like Chris is trying
1725s	to counter attack one of his okay so he
1728s	double monuments for the giant push oh
1731s	it does not use math maybe he oh yeah he
1733s	he can't afford math right
1735s	now yeah he's continuing to kill units
1739s	picking them off being careful with his
1741s	writers mhm does sacrifice one of them
1745s	here and leaves another one to be
1749s	killed border growth is good here gives
1751s	them more resources and also cuts off a
1754s	little bit of the roads that Chris has
1756s	been using so
1759s	well yeah it actually allowed for a
1762s	market spot but pamper treasure actually
1764s	misses this um a left of his Sawmill
1767s	there he could have chopped the for it
1769s	but well I think if he if he chopped the
1771s	force he wouldn't have been able to
1775s	Giant I think he's valuing the Giants a
1778s	little bit more than his Eco here he
1781s	does have a relatively strong Eco
1782s	already so yeah I'm interested to see um
1786s	what pamp I'm surprised I haven't seen
1787s	pamper treasure get any catapults yet uh
1790s	you know considering he has this kind of
1792s	like many um I'm going to say ponds
1795s	between you know his cities if he just
1798s	gets a catapult in that West there it is
1801s	right as you said it there we go we see
1804s	a catapult in capital all right so these
1807s	catapults are actually going to become a
1809s	really big problem for for Chris if he
1811s	can't get to them because these water
1814s	towels are just blocking uh those
1816s	catapults and uh he's going to need you
1819s	know his Riders to try and break through
1821s	at some point but uh right now it
1823s	doesn't look like paner treasure is
1824s	going to allow that with both of his
1826s	Giants just surrounding
1828s	um it looks like gar um right now so
1833s	we'll have to see what uh what he ends
1835s	up doing to try and counter play against
1837s	those
1838s	catapults we we also see that yeah in
1840s	the north
1842s	Corner uh pamper treasure has a
1845s	swordsman ruin yeah so he got swordsman
1848s	from the ru normally for for vengar you
1851s	would think that oh swordsman ruin isn't
1853s	that good since you know there's
1854s	swordsman all over the map but here it
1857s	actually makes a pretty big difference
1859s	since it's a oneon-one
1861s	situation where each of them only have
1863s	one city that can really easily access
1866s	this this region of the Mac that
1868s	swordsman is going to help him so much
1871s	in the fight here just because that is a
1875s	second unit that you know normally he
1878s	would need a turn train up that has
1880s	extra HP and yeah it's just a really
1885s	strong unit that he did not have to pay
1886s	for
1888s	and it's going to completely change the
1890s	ti of this battle in
1898s	the all right so we see Chris starting
1901s	to uh see sieges sieges uh pamper
1904s	Treasures East City there um let's see
1908s	if pamper treasure can un Siege let's
1910s	see giant that is pretty weak okay Chris
1914s	finally gets math
1916s	himself um
1919s	and now pamper treasure it looks like
1921s	they're trading cities here um it looks
1925s	like he cannot un Siege unfortunately he
1928s	does get a singular chop and he misses
1930s	one North double north of the city
1933s	itself and getting this city is huge for
1936s	Christen it finally gives him that fix
1939s	City he needed for Grand Bazaar which
1941s	allows him to Giant pop him off of off
1946s	of gar there which I think is a mass
1948s	massive massive Advantage there it does
1951s	look like um Hamber treasure is going to
1953s	try and take that East City back yeah
1956s	with the two catapults and the that 13
1960s	HP
1962s	giant yep I uh I I smell knights in
1965s	Chris's future I don't know I'm liking
1968s	those Treasures lining up those
1970s	catapults and stuff yeah when Chris here
1972s	can like un Siege easily with the with
1975s	the Riders and the Swordsmen yeah see
1978s	The Siege won't hold yeah no The Siege
1981s	will not
1982s	hold um so we see them starting to kind
1986s	of have a tussle up in the north oh
1988s	looks like he goes for a Siege up
1990s	there but yeah we can see the veteran
1993s	swordsman here already paying its due
1996s	because that veteran swordsman was there
1999s	it was threatening a Siege with the road
2001s	so Chris or not with the road it was
2003s	Ding A Siege by just moving up and with
2005s	one other swordsman it would be able to
2007s	land The Siege it would have been
2008s	unbreakable that forced Chris to not
2011s	train a unit there which led to an easy
2013s	Siege and Chris just does not have the
2015s	power to hold that North City due to
2018s	that veteran swordsman yeah so that
2020s	veteran swordsman ends up gaining him a
2022s	village up in the north which I think is
2024s	is very very nice um you know just
2027s	sectioning off Chris into his east
2029s	corner really um okay looks like pamper
2033s	treasure finally okay pamper treasure
2035s	picks up free spirit here um and he ALS
2038s	gets his
2039s	East yeah yeah so we don't see Chris
2042s	going for Knights yet but we do see
2044s	pamper treasure going for it um we do
2047s	see yeah Chris gets this catapult here
2051s	in cther um which is really smart
2055s	because this city is completely
2057s	surrounded by water and the only way to
2059s	access it is through this really narrow
2062s	land tile uh that Lake City right there
2066s	the only way to access it is through
2068s	that like Center City tile connected by
2072s	land so this city is really hard to
2074s	reach and by training his catapult first
2077s	before pamper treasure can train a
2079s	catapult on nrot to lock down pther it
2083s	prevents the Catapult being trained and
2086s	it also just is a really difficult unit
2088s	to reach unless you go through the water
2090s	and hit it with like a scout or rammer
2093s	it's just really hard to reach and
2095s	really hard to take care of yeah there
2097s	there isn't any spot you can put a
2099s	bridge or something because it's it's
2102s	like parallel uh tiles so y you can't
2105s	reach it yeah I think this will make C
2108s	Place yeah and so we see um we see
2110s	pamper treasure finally get shivalry
2112s	this turn um and I think Knights are
2114s	going to pose a really big problem for
2117s	for Chris but no no Knights yet right I
2120s	don't see no no KN yet but his turn
2122s	hasn't ended so uh y
2126s	one yeah there was
2130s	if he trained it anywhere else Chris
2132s	would have seen it but because Chris
2135s	yeah because he sees that Chris does not
2137s	have Vision on this Lighthouse he's
2139s	gambling on Chris not having Vision on
2141s	this city and he was right here so that
2144s	Lighthouse was a really good indicator
2147s	to whether or not he could train a city
2149s	there and you can see that Chris does
2152s	leave this two catapult and rer chain
2156s	yes oh man and I see a really nice juicy
2161s	chain it oh going
2165s	going yeah wow he goes for ports oh and
2170s	we see that night chain killing two
2173s	catapults um down goes the
2177s	catapults ych that definitely
2180s	hurts uh CHR has a lot of stars though
2185s	and he goes for trade himself wow
2189s	yeah I think trade is a really smart
2190s	move on on Chris's behalf because but
2193s	isn't it too late kind of you know it's
2195s	it's like he has to do something about
2198s	those Knights and then the potentially
2201s	the Pampers Navy and like yeah I do
2205s	wonder if maybe delaying trade by a turn
2208s	or two here would have been the play
2209s	just because his two catapults did just
2212s	fall and he is a little bit behind a
2215s	little bit more vulnerable after that so
2218s	maybe getting up like a catapult or two
2220s	and rebuilding his militaristic strength
2223s	before going for that Eco play might
2225s	have been a little bit more safe
2231s	here yeah so uh okay we see him Runing
2234s	in okay he does get a nice Siege over
2237s	there and it's not going to hold but um
2240s	Chris is kind of barely holding on here
2242s	it kind of seems
2244s	like yeah he does give up that Siege
2248s	actually if he had hit in a different
2250s	order he would have been able to chain
2251s	through four four of Chris's units but
2255s	he wanted that Siege more
2257s	so that Siege here does lose him his
2260s	Market which is unfortunate Market he
2263s	just placed and now pamper treasure goes
2266s	trade
2267s	himself he's going to be able to use
2269s	trade a little bit better just because
2271s	he has that level five uh somnil spot
2275s	and just higher level trade spots
2279s	yeah so we see Chris is at 22 Stars per
2282s	turn and we'll see how pamper treasure
2284s	is at this next turn but uh you know
2286s	Chris is kind of being closed in on all
2288s	sides right pamper treasure won the
2289s	battle in the north um he's now winning
2292s	the battle in the East so now he's kind
2295s	of the knights are doing so much damage
2299s	yeah he gets a capital Siege here um
2302s	we'll see and he even gets that catapult
2305s	snipe yeah which is just even more oh he
2308s	gets or to un Siege okay y so he pops
2312s	his looks like it's probably going to be
2314s	his last Giant on his Capital but he
2316s	can't really train a whole lot of units
2318s	this turn due to it with having to grab
2320s	org and only having 23 Stars per turn um
2326s	looks like uh pamper treasure is going
2328s	to uh going to potentially win this game
2332s	with with pamer treasure also uh you
2335s	know having the catapults you know uh
2338s	just kill any offensive units that Chris
2342s	May uh may put in his way I I don't
2345s	think uh I don't think Chris really uh
2348s	especially with him getting markets now
2349s	I think markets for pamper treasure was
2352s	a was a really really nice play now just
2354s	you know SEC Victory he's at 55 Stars
2356s	per turn and Chris is at 23 yeah so we
2359s	see here D more than double I want to
2362s	bring back attention to that last turn
2365s	where we see a really good use of
2366s	destroy building where um Chris's Chris
2369s	had initially placed a market and it was
2371s	level like five or six or something like
2374s	that for Chris but because um pamper
2377s	treasure does not have that North
2379s	Sawmill so it's a really low level for
2382s	him so he destroys that building
2385s	destroys a sawmill and instead places
2387s	them elsewhere in order to get a higher
2390s	level
2394s	Market very smart play yep
2399s	get a level five Market instead of a
2401s	level before was level level zero
2406s	because yeah very very nice play from
2409s	that but yeah so this game goes to
2411s	pamper treasure I think this and
2414s	anything Chris could have done
2415s	differently to to win or you don't see
2418s	any any uh way for him to um Turned this
2422s	wrong I think I think going uh he really
2426s	he really just uh like went for this
2428s	Ryder roads play um and the only problem
2431s	that venger has a really really hard
2433s	time trying to support it because you
2435s	know roads are now three stars you know
2437s	it requires you know a little bit more
2440s	um you know use of of stars than it did
2443s	before and so I I think you with benger
2445s	you need to get some sort of economy
2447s	rolling before you can even uh you know
2449s	start going for these really aggressive
2450s	plays with with roads right we saw that
2452s	he struggled to um get enough you know
2455s	uh roads and stuff to make any counter
2457s	playay the early game and even then uh
2459s	we just saw pamper treasure kind of run
2461s	him over with swordsman um because for
2465s	Riders to Kill The Swordsman so uh I
2467s	think if he maybe leaned into like the
2469s	forest re check and went went archery a
2471s	little bit more safe play um you know
2474s	you know also you just get some free
2476s	damage and if you pair it with swords
2477s	you know you can just get some free free
2479s	kills and stuff I think that would have
2480s	turned out a little bit better it also
2482s	would have set him up uh more for uh
2484s	going into math I think earlier which I
2487s	I think could have definitely swayed the
2488s	game um if he could have gotten
2490s	catapults maybe before pamper treasure
2492s	did but uh I think that's kind of uh my
2495s	thought process on it what do you think
2497s	cloud yeah I definitely agree with that
2499s	assessment we saw early on that because
2502s	he had these two level one cities that
2504s	he could not upgrade for the workshop
2506s	his Eco was really hurting um placing
2509s	down all those roads dropping all those
2511s	Riders was really really delayed his Eco
2514s	by a lot I also think that archers in
2516s	general tend to trade a little bit
2518s	better just because they don't take
2519s	retaliation damage the writers you can
2522s	kind of choose when you want to take
2523s	your trade since you have better range
2526s	than your opponent but the main drawback
2529s	is that after hitting a swordsman that
2531s	damages them so badly they need a turn
2534s	or two of just resting of healing up so
2537s	even though that unit is still alive you
2539s	can't it's kind of out of commission for
2540s	about two turns meaning if he wants to
2542s	use it he either has to sacrifice it and
2544s	train a new one or he has to just
2546s	continue pumping out riters and that
2550s	delays him from going other Texs that
2552s	delays him from leveling up cities and
2554s	if he had went archery which trades a
2556s	little bit better or just gone straight
2559s	for like Sawmills or you know more
2563s	ecotex and buil up his Eco a little bit
2565s	faster maybe the outcome could have been
2567s	a little bit different the best thing
2569s	the main advantage of having more
2571s	Villages is you have more bases to train
2574s	units you have a higher Eco since most
2577s	of the time first upgrade is what gets
2578s	your Eco increasing the fastest that's
2581s	the best return on your on your
2583s	Investments although Chris did have the
2586s	ability to train our units he did not
2588s	have the Eco Advantage just because he
2590s	did not have the mind he did not have
2592s	the right resources to get things
2594s	rolling as
2595s	quickly I think that's why he was unable
2598s	to win this game just because he could
2601s	not get his Eco Advantage up despite his
2604s	higher number of but to be to be fair he
2606s	he also his spawn was was uh much worse
2609s	than yeah the lack of mountains was
2612s	really painful for him yeah okay thanks
2615s	so let's jump into game number
2620s	two all right let me switch
2633s	to let me
2649s	okay so here we have sorry let me turn
2655s	off the
2656s	F yeah so here we have uh rats and
2662s	vce all right these are two very very
2665s	experienced players uh rats he's he's a
2668s	I think he's I think he's a seven time
2670s	bullet
2672s	Champion he's he's incredibly strong vce
2674s	is also very strong in their own regard
2678s	vorce has won um you know multiple I
2680s	think he's won bullet as well um and
2683s	he's he's very strong uh in in One V
2685s	ones and stuff so I'm interested to see
2687s	how how this turns
2689s	out okay let's have a look at the spawns
2692s	so we see uh Rat spawn he spawns with
2695s	three forests two mountains uh
2698s	unfortunately his Forge spot is blocked
2700s	by a
2701s	forest but uh
2703s	he yeah and it does look like uh his
2706s	village density really doesn't look that
2708s	great his first his his village that's
2709s	closest to him is is going to the east
2711s	not to the center and his other Village
2714s	that's closer is or four tiles that's
2717s	yeah so yeah he's gonna he's gonna have
2720s	a hard time trying to uh expand there it
2722s	seems like uh but if we go over to VSA
2725s	side uh he sponsor with six forests and
2729s	uh one mine and uh he has uh almost
2733s	perfect density here he has a village to
2735s	his amazing like yeah um he also has uh
2740s	some really nice um math spots actually
2744s	um you know Northeast of his capital and
2746s	then Southwest of of that East city um
2750s	yeah I think uh normally when you get a
2751s	lighthouse spawn you want to try to
2754s	expand as fast as you can just because
2756s	you know that you spawn as far away from
2758s	the center as possible and if your
2760s	opponent is spawned like in a nearby
2763s	Corner they can kind of expand quickly
2766s	to the center and cut you off from the
2767s	rest of the map but with how poor with
2771s	the density distribution of the villages
2773s	we can see that even if Ratz like makes
2775s	a rush to the middle he will actually
2778s	still have less Villages than vorce just
2781s	because V's density is is a lot better
2784s	than his when when we just look at the
2786s	first villages and that first Village
2788s	capturing that first Village is like
2791s	makes one of the biggest differences in
2793s	the early game since it gets your Eco
2795s	rolling you get your upgrades going yeah
2798s	but with rats it's like you can't make
2800s	many mistakes because he's like fighting
2803s	till the end so I'm very curious about
2807s	this game okay yeah let's
2810s	start so never give up never for
2814s	surrender all right both players opening
2818s	with the single
2820s	Warrior they know that one of them has a
2822s	lighthouse spawn so they probably have a
2824s	little yeah a quick question here so um
2827s	Force decided to go for the lighthouse
2830s	and you said like the expansion is more
2833s	actually more important so would you say
2835s	it's it's it was like an early mistake
2838s	from from I I think it's an interesting
2841s	place since for venger you you want the
2844s	expansion but uh you also know that you
2847s	strle with Eco early on so by going for
2850s	this Lighthouse he not only gets a
2852s	faster upgrade he also he gets a faster
2855s	upgrade and he that also allows him to
2857s	train another unit which although it
2859s	delays his uh the expansion of his first
2863s	Warrior by two turns it lets him get out
2866s	a third unit a turn earlier which can
2869s	allow him to expand in three directions
2871s	you know a turn earlier as
2873s	well I think it was kind of like a
2876s	personal style thing if the density was
2880s	worse I if his density was worse I would
2882s	feel
2883s	like this might be a little worse of a
2886s	place since it means that he's delaying
2889s	um getting his other Villages by you
2891s	know like two turns essentially but
2894s	because his village density was pretty
2897s	good I think it was fine in general
2899s	since his second Warrior is still pretty
2902s	close he could could not known that he
2904s	could not know at this point yeah okay
2907s	is just going for the faster Eco
2912s	mhm okay so we see rats finally getting
2916s	finally finds that East Village uh but
2918s	not finding anything in the center
2920s	unfortunately uh just kind of wondering
2922s	okay finally does he's going all the way
2925s	past the center of the map to find this
2927s	Village actually yeah and even though he
2930s	does find it it's like for sees him
2933s	already yeah which is just really bad
2936s	and he can't really support that Village
2938s	either like he can't really defend it or
2940s	anything so yeah probably yeah he's he's
2944s	going to lose that Village most likely V
2946s	already has the units ready to knock him
2949s	off that Center
2950s	Village
2952s	yeah here you see that uh that village
2956s	with three mines I actually am a little
2959s	curious if uh not sieging that Center
2963s	City and instead going for that village
2965s	with the three mines would have been the
2966s	smart place since we see that this
2968s	Village has two forests one of which
2971s	rats can chop immediately the other one
2973s	he can't since a unit is blocking but
2975s	that means this city is going to be kind
2977s	of difficult to upgrade whereas if we
2981s	had gone for that other Center City with
2984s	three mines this city is unclaimed and
2988s	if he sends his Warrior over first he's
2991s	going to be able to claim it first and
2994s	he has another Village that can help him
2995s	pressure nagar which is a pretty weak
2998s	Village so I'm kind of curious if there
3001s	was also a some kind of play that vorce
3004s	could have made here for the center
3005s	Village I do understand that it's kind
3007s	of more difficult to make a play for a
3010s	village when your Villages are further
3012s	away since it takes more time for your
3014s	units to reach and if he didn't claim
3016s	nagar now um rats can train swordsman
3019s	from it which is which makes it harder
3022s	to hold but I do think that this other
3025s	Village is of higher value if you are
3027s	able to somehow secure
3029s	it yeah well I mean if we we look at
3032s	that Village in in terms of where it is
3034s	and into where vce's position is right
3037s	uh Ratz can I think rats here he can
3039s	just take it even if vorce does go for
3041s	it right like if he moves The Swordsman
3044s	um you know Northeast there and then is
3046s	one pile away if if rat sees this which
3049s	he can um then he can just R can just
3053s	train a swordsman on his East City and
3055s	he'll be there in time to knock him off
3056s	and get the City for himself um so I
3059s	think regardless here I think going for
3060s	nagar is is is I think
3063s	the
3065s	okay let's see how this turns
3071s	out yeah you do see the chop and here
3074s	rat actually decides to go for the early
3076s	upgrade and sacrifice his Forge spot he
3079s	does have another level two Forge spot
3080s	though so it's not the worst thing
3083s	getting those early upgrades
3085s	in VOR here starts going for his free
3087s	upgrades with the five stars to five
3090s	stars
3092s	back y really really nice uh scooping up
3095s	more Villages which is really nice for
3098s	rats considering his uh his density was
3100s	really not that great he picks up Mining
3102s	and climbing for
3105s	capturing he goes for a workshop
3108s	here he really needs to get his Eco
3110s	going with how slow he's getting these
3113s	Villages he knows that he's behind in
3115s	Stars
3118s	yeah doing a lot of aggressive chops
3121s	here yeah well I think he needs to right
3124s	like he knows he really needs to get his
3126s	Eco going yeah yeah he needs to get that
3128s	giant as soon as possible even though it
3131s	looks like their Eco is about even with
3133s	him making 16 stars and I think vorce is
3136s	also making something similar but
3138s	because he's getting his Eco going
3140s	slower vorce has made more stars over
3143s	the course of the previous turns yeah so
3147s	first
3149s	giant yep so we see the first giant from
3152s	uh from Ratz here you got that really
3154s	really nice level three Forge spot he
3156s	also has a really nice Forge spot in the
3158s	city north of him that he can just pop
3159s	another giant with another five stars uh
3163s	and then he can also pop one in his
3164s	Capital if he wants to uh get the mine
3167s	Southwest and then uh put a forge
3170s	southeast of his capital and he can just
3172s	get another giant his giant potential
3174s	for for rats is looking really really
3176s	nice
3177s	um I'd be interested to see if he ends
3179s	up after getting his economy up I wonder
3182s	if rats is considering archery um at
3185s	this point um because I think archery
3187s	behind the Giants would be like really
3189s	really strong here
3192s	um so okay he goes for this six floor
3194s	does find the lighthouse in the corner
3196s	that's actually really really nice
3201s	um sees two ruins one of which force
3204s	claims V
3207s	M yeah V on the edge of the map isn't
3210s	the most helpful but it does just
3212s	guarantee him
3214s	that giant from from vce so he does
3218s	place his sill in a spot his Lumber in a
3221s	spot that blocks a trade spot but I
3224s	think force is not really considering
3226s	trade for this game it looks like since
3228s	he immediately blocks another one with
3230s	that
3234s	Monument yeah so we see rats just uh
3237s	getting his economy up he's taking some
3239s	explorers now trying to get that Vision
3242s	um I think this is something very key
3244s	about rat you know we saw him claim that
3246s	Center Village and get a workshop there
3248s	but on both of his uh East and West
3251s	cities oh my
3256s	goodness huge here yeah that's that's
3259s	really nice uh considering uh that rats
3262s	doesn't have any ranged units at all
3265s	this will be uh very very uh important
3269s	uh for for his offense especially in
3271s	dealing with those giants I think this
3272s	now gives him some counterplay against
3274s	those giants now since you know Force
3278s	doesn't seem to have as much of a you
3280s	know giant potential but I guess with
3281s	math now he probably just you know get
3283s	some more
3285s	so unfortunate for rats here I think he
3287s	tried to go for a giant push play to un
3290s	siege that South City but his Warrior
3292s	did not push in the right direction
3294s	since Warrior units always push towards
3297s	Center when they're freshly spawned do
3299s	we see vorce get a really nice giant
3301s	push on his Capital uh to get that
3303s	catapult and range to shoot that
3306s	giant um which is really really
3309s	nice um we see uh we see vorce is
3313s	getting another giant there um we also
3316s	see that vorce is building up a strong
3318s	push in the west with a catapult backed
3321s	by two Swordsmen and two
3323s	Warriors in the west west catapult with
3327s	two Swordsmen and two Warriors making a
3329s	play for that Village and it seems like
3332s	rat is a little under defended there
3333s	right now he kind of has to pull his
3335s	units back and he has this giant coming
3336s	up to try to defend he's also go going
3339s	for Riders over archers just because
3341s	Riders are faster more mobile units and
3344s	because he got because uh vorce got that
3347s	math through and it kind of speeds up
3349s	his Tempo by like a turn or two so Ratz
3352s	feels like he's behind and he really has
3354s	to rush Riders and bring units in for
3357s	support and try to defend right
3361s	now we see a we see rats getting a Siege
3364s	in the in the East
3366s	there
3369s	um but uh it does look like it will hold
3374s	just
3375s	barely
3378s	um yep okay and so we see rats gets a
3382s	population pop Rin yeah go before he
3387s	captures yeah so the key difference here
3391s	right um is that uh you know Ratz gets
3394s	riding and Rose when he's built up his
3396s	economy you know unlike the last game we
3398s	saw right we saw Chrisco just straight
3400s	into it with no economy and stuff I
3403s	think this is going to build a really
3405s	really nice uh healthy push for for rats
3408s	to try and
3409s	Counterattack um these catapults that
3411s	are really causing him a lot of problems
3413s	right now um because he doesn't really
3415s	have any way to deal with them but now
3417s	he does right roads and Roads and Riders
3419s	can we see um warse goes for a Explorer
3424s	all the way in the West when he has like
3427s	almost full vision of the map to try to
3429s	play for that eye of God and get that
3431s	lighthouse in the north but
3433s	unfortunately he does not get it a bit
3435s	of a gamly play but he really wanted
3437s	that eye of God
3440s	Monument yeah it's like fair enough
3442s	right you know I think I've got his you
3445s	know any Monument is a you know as we
3447s	can say Monumental in a game for you
3451s	know for getting more Super units and
3453s	stuff and especially for like unsing
3455s	cities right it just makes it a whole
3457s	lot
3457s	cheaper uh I do think you need to kind
3460s	of carefully way weigh out where you
3461s	want to get explorers versus where you
3463s	want to get uh workshops just because
3465s	that plus one s spt is start per turn is
3469s	really good but um yeah in this case
3471s	force kind of thinks that okay my eco's
3474s	built up enough I can kind of gamble for
3476s	this Lighthouse if it doesn't go well
3479s	with the consequences hey we'll see it
3481s	he wants this Lighthouse really bad okay
3483s	he does and Ratz does get the eye of God
3486s	I believe he has Vision on all four
3488s	lighthouses now y yep he does he does oh
3492s	wow with that he is going to invest
3494s	heavily in this city oh my goodness he
3496s	us all three of his monuments to get
3499s	that giant push which honestly I I I
3503s	don't know how I feel about this right
3505s	like I mean I I guess it is good because
3507s	it does allow him to keep the city for
3509s	an extra turn but uh I think vores has a
3512s	really like he has the Catapult
3514s	behind um you know I think this is uh an
3518s	interesting play because I don't know if
3520s	he can really defend that city um
3522s	because I think if vorce just trains
3524s	another catapult uh in the city
3526s	Southwest of it I I think he can just um
3529s	just constantly Siege it and and then
3530s	take it so um yeah it's definitely
3534s	increasing the value of that City by a
3536s	loss since before only had one forest
3539s	and no other resources that we can see
3541s	but with these
3543s	three three monuments putting down
3546s	that's nine whole populations nine extra
3550s	population that would not have been able
3552s	to go there otherwise that Ratz is
3555s	investing in the city so he's really
3557s	going all in on the city and if he loses
3559s	this city it's going to be a huge blow
3561s	to him whereas before if he lost that
3563s	City it's just a two stars per turn any
3565s	further upgrad it's going to be like a
3567s	heavy investment like a monument so yeah
3571s	rats is really going all in
3574s	here yeah so we'll see uh so we see
3578s	vorce uh kind of just okay vorce finally
3582s	gets roads okay it looks like he's gonna
3584s	just Siege again yeah just immediate
3587s	Siege that's really painful for rats
3590s	after he threw down everything for that
3594s	yeah it's really not not good for for
3596s	for rats uh you know we see see rats
3600s	trying to defend this
3601s	city um
3606s	yeah but um yeah that second giant is
3610s	not going to be as
3613s	easily yeah so we see uh See VOR just
3618s	slowly picking away at his units you now
3620s	blocks with that
3622s	swordsman uh which will cause even more
3625s	problems uh for rats I'm not sure he can
3628s	un siege that now actually uh but we'll
3631s	we'll see we see that rats has a really
3634s	really strong push over in the west has
3636s	three
3637s	Giants um and everything
3640s	so let's see he gets free spirit and he
3643s	gets a knight
3645s	yeah everything in the city honestly a
3648s	very very smart play um makes the city
3652s	it makes the city actually now um it
3654s	actually makes it worse for rivorce uh
3658s	because uh it'll increase his Tech cost
3661s	so if he wants to grab any Tech um it's
3664s	just going to make it a little bit more
3665s	expensive and that City's it's not
3667s	gaining any stars now so um yeah smart
3671s	decision by rats
3674s	here yep so it looks like um I think we
3678s	see vorce actually gets his uh Grand
3680s	Bazar this turn yeah and he places it
3682s	over in the west to get another
3684s	giant yeah because we see rats has a
3687s	really really strong push over in the
3689s	west with three Giants um one you know
3692s	on that Center City of VES and so uh
3694s	vorce actually I think VOR is actually
3697s	uh on the defensive in in the west right
3700s	now yeah I think the a main a main
3704s	difference in their attack is that or in
3706s	their attack and defense is how they use
3709s	their monuments rats kind of placed all
3711s	three in one city to try to make a
3714s	desperate attempt to hold it whereas VOR
3717s	was a little bit more strategic with his
3719s	monuments you see that he placed one to
3721s	get this giant here he placed one
3724s	earlier in the city east of his Capital
3727s	so he's kind of splitting up where he's
3730s	placing his monuments and trying to get
3732s	as much value out of each of them
3733s	individually to get one giant in like
3736s	every city whereas rats invested all
3739s	three in one and I feel like if that
3742s	giant would have brought you a lot of
3744s	value it might be worth it but otherwise
3746s	most of the time I prefer splitting my
3748s	monuments maybe like one per City to get
3750s	three Giants in three different cities
3752s	as opposed to one giant in one city
3754s	destroying The Monuments though did give
3756s	him a lot of value since it men thought
3758s	his opponent would not get any stars
3760s	from taking a a city that would have
3761s	been very high level
3765s	y okay so we see vorce uh you know
3768s	training training a little bit you know
3770s	trains another catapult uh in that South
3773s	City there and we see that rats yep so
3775s	we see rats has Knights uh which are
3778s	going to be a a pretty big problem for
3781s	for vorce considering he's he's kind of
3783s	his units are kind of cramped in the
3785s	west right you know he doesn't have a
3787s	whole lot of space which makes Knights
3789s	even more deadly um you know when units
3792s	have a lot of space and stuff you know
3793s	good micro and stuff kind of spacing
3795s	them out is super easy um and knights
3797s	can be easily countered but uh without
3799s	that space you know it it really makes
3801s	it hard to uh to you know space those
3805s	units out uh which I think here we are
3807s	going to see our first night chain yep
3810s	yep so we see
3812s	one rer in from right five yep so you
3816s	see five units get chained by by that
3818s	Knight and rat saves the other Knight
3820s	trains another Knight in his uh in his
3823s	Capital um just saving
3826s	those yeah definitely a lot of clever
3829s	micro from rats here yeah so we see
3832s	vorce kind of spacing his units out at
3836s	least
3839s	TR grow to really try to limit the
3842s	mobility of that Knight
3844s	here yeah I think that was a very good
3846s	play because forests you know block them
3849s	okay looks like go for another KN chain
3851s	gets a gets a nice Siege and he gets to
3853s	kill that
3855s	catapult next to his
3857s	Capital going for really trying to pick
3860s	out those catapults whenever he can at
3863s	this point since those are the main
3864s	thing that's stopping his giant and
3866s	swordsman and other beefy units from
3869s	advancing yep so we see V trying to put
3873s	up some sort of a defense it looks like
3876s	uh who resigns here looks like what no
3879s	vorce yeah vorce VOR resigns
3883s	here let's
3885s	see uh he just does I I think VOR here
3888s	he's struggling with units right uh like
3890s	all of his units kind of got uh taken
3892s	away from him from rat's previous turn
3896s	I think normally if you are playing
3898s	somebody a player that you think might
3901s	mess up in this position it's definitely
3904s	playable but since these players have
3906s	played against each others countless
3908s	times they both know that their opponent
3910s	is someone who is very very good at what
3913s	they do they know that they're not going
3914s	to blunder any major mistakes in this
3917s	position so they call it and they say I
3919s	know you're good enough to win from this
3921s	position no you're not going to make any
3922s	mistakes I'm going to save us both some
3924s	time and I'm going to resign here yes so
3926s	I'm I'm getting uh from in chat Meister
3929s	lamp is actually saying that rats
3930s	resigned here oh rats resigned here yeah
3933s	it looks like like does not think he can
3936s	break through this look at if we look at
3938s	game stats it'll actually say who is who
3941s	who turned into so go to game stats I
3943s	think it'll say who is the the bot yeah
3945s	so yeah yeah resigned here yeah looks
3950s	like R do not think he could break
3951s	through he conceded the game
3953s	to with all these Giants here would be
3956s	really hard to break through I'm
3958s	actually interested to to see trying to
3961s	see I mean he has plenty of units I
3963s	think to kind of go through those
3965s	giants
3968s	um well it does also look like uh if
3971s	this is vce's turn right here he has 19
3973s	Stars saved up going into the next turn
3976s	with 35 stars of income so he could very
3979s	easily go Knights himself this turn and
3982s	if he goes Knights himself with all
3984s	those Riders from
3986s	rats it's going to be a lot of
3989s	value yeah so he would be able to afford
3992s	one night next turn or is it to yeah he
3996s	can afford yeah 18 one night next turn
4000s	with the Stars he currently has saved up
4004s	okay right definitely an interesting
4007s	game yeah all right a bit surprised that
4011s	that red gave up on this at this stage
4015s	yeah I'm I'm a bit surprised too I
4016s	thought he had I mean I think he had the
4018s	unit Advantage I think if vorse uh I
4020s	think I think if vorce just like spam
4022s	swords I think it would be an even
4024s	bigger problem just because you know uh
4027s	he just has Riders and knights which
4029s	really aren't that great against
4030s	swords um uh yeah maybe maybe Reds was
4034s	hoping for like one of those uh Knight
4037s	sieges to hold and then if he kind of
4040s	took one one city from
4042s	vce then he could see you know like see
4046s	a light in the tunnel to continue but
4049s	with the with those uh like catapults in
4053s	the back you know un siing that's the
4056s	that's that's the it was too much for
4058s	for
4060s	him okay all righty so we go to game
4066s	number three
4091s	okay
4100s	off yeah so here we have uh
4106s	we have
4108s	asraa
4110s	yeah yeah help me out because I I know
4112s	some of those people with the like their
4115s	Discord names dictator boss man who is
4119s	in poly Champions and marinac 20 so it's
4124s	a match between those two and it looks
4125s	like they spawn very very close to each
4127s	other on this Lakes map yeah there's
4130s	again a lot of water in the it's a
4132s	similar match up to what we saw in the
4134s	past where there is half of the map is
4136s	land and half the map is water but big
4140s	difference here is that there's another
4142s	Lake in the north yeah that uh kind of
4145s	prevents any good Village density
4148s	generation for I believe that's marinac
4151s	whereas for Australia he does have a lot
4154s	more villages in the South he has three
4156s	villages in the South as compared to
4158s	Marx just one Village in the
4160s	north does look like
4162s	a there does look like there's two
4164s	Villages that these two players will be
4167s	fighting over since um they're really
4171s	close and these are the main two
4173s	Villages that they that you know are in
4175s	the center of the map but it'll heavily
4178s	like the outcome of this game and how
4180s	things Advance will definitely depend
4184s	heavily on which direction these players
4186s	choose to send their first units either
4189s	either start tussling right off the bat
4191s	for these first two Villages or maybe
4194s	australa will you know expand to the
4197s	west and find these other Villages first
4199s	before they start their
4202s	fight yep yep so let's switch turn on
4207s	the fog and all
4211s	right climbing immediately W austr yeah
4216s	wow that's a that's a very uh
4220s	interesting and and different
4222s	play really wants to expand as quick
4225s	quickly as he can he does not want to be
4227s	stopped by this mountain yeah we uh you
4230s	normally with benger you want to try and
4232s	get your eony rolling but and it looks
4234s	like that climbing play really does just
4237s	bite him uh because you know marac just
4240s	gets to that Village first so which
4243s	really hurts and Marin also goes
4245s	climbing pre- capture so looks like
4246s	they're both going to be going climbing
4248s	mining I think the main difference here
4251s	though is one of them went hunting
4253s	before climbing so they Eco now is at
4256s	what 5 six it's like almost double asral
4260s	before at the start of his turn five
4263s	yeah we also see that Marinette got a
4265s	pop ruin so that's pretty huge as well
4267s	that is really big yeah yeah so Mar goes
4269s	for an explore here um I actually think
4272s	this is um a misplay uh a few reasons
4275s	why uh you know you have the village on
4277s	the side of the map but they you know
4279s	you have climbing climbing is going to
4281s	give you a whole lot of vision um you
4283s	know the mountains alone I don't and you
4286s	know marionette can't really do much
4288s	with the vision right now um you know I
4291s	I think he probably could have waited on
4292s	getting an Explorer he could have waited
4294s	to get that West Village and then get it
4295s	there but um I don't think it I do think
4298s	the Explorer helped him like notify him
4301s	of this Village in the west just because
4303s	there are no no resource indicators
4305s	there but yeah I agree with that the the
4308s	explor seemed like a little bit
4311s	excessive yeah but yeah Australia really
4314s	kind of on the back leg leg here just
4316s	due to his starting Tech choices and
4319s	getting his Eco going a little bit
4320s	slower because of the climbing play M we
4323s	do see that he can get a quick giant
4325s	here with just hunting though yeah and
4328s	he's starting to go for it believe next
4330s	turn is when this giant should be able
4332s	to come
4335s	out yep on the other hand can also get
4339s	his Giants soon maybe even this turn Yep
4342s	this turn if he gets some chops he he's
4344s	even set up second giant already as well
4348s	next will be coming out next
4350s	turn so yeah that's that's early
4353s	climbing play really really painful for
4357s	Australia y so we see both players get
4360s	their first
4361s	giant
4364s	um we see Australia slowly scooping up
4366s	those South Villages Australia getting
4369s	that Explorer I think he's trying to go
4370s	for eye of God although I I'm kind of
4376s	I don't think that was I don't think
4377s	that was correct because oh a star ruin
4380s	wow very lucky for go a doesn't have any
4384s	any potential for for next Explorer to
4387s	go yeah there's no there's no there's no
4389s	um room for another Village to get an
4391s	explore so I don't think getting an
4394s	Explorer there was uh was right I think
4395s	he needed to get a workshop there
4397s	especially with his economy is behind
4400s	so but we see marinac he gets that uh he
4404s	gets that star run which is just I mean
4406s	with Wenger anything that helps your
4408s	economy with Wenger is just a huge right
4410s	population is huge um stars are huge you
4413s	know any Tech that can help you you know
4415s	get your com rolling is huge so
4417s	definitely uh you know Marin you got a
4420s	pop Ru earlier he now gets a star run
4422s	definitely looking good uh getting that
4424s	giant all the way in the back that giant
4426s	is not going to arrive to the front
4427s	lines anytime soon okay arery we finally
4433s	love to see it we we see our first
4435s	archery game uh okay oh they both go
4439s	archery oh my goodness I'm I'm loving it
4442s	so far archers my favorite
4447s	units yeah archers just let you trade so
4450s	well into your opponent especially as
4453s	vangar when you see so many so many
4455s	Giants yeah y so it looks like uh you
4459s	know Australia's trying to pick up that
4461s	that North Village there but it's not
4463s	going to hold you know with Mar having
4465s	Archer
4466s	I don't think anything is going to hold
4468s	there I'm actually kind of curious how
4470s	um mirac wants to deal with this so I
4473s	see two options of unsing he can either
4476s	hit with the Archer and un Siege with
4478s	the giant or he can hit with the Giant
4481s	and un sieged with an Archer the main
4483s	difference between these two options is
4485s	the first one forces his giant to move
4488s	onto the village which allows
4490s	Australia's giant to get the first hit
4492s	on a giant that's really painful because
4494s	Giants have four defense but five attack
4498s	meaning you take more damage from being
4501s	hit than you do from the retaliation
4504s	damage so you really don't want your
4505s	giant to be the first one getting hit
4507s	however if he attacks first with his
4509s	giant his giant will take retaliation
4511s	damage from The Swordsman Which is less
4513s	damage than he would take from the giant
4515s	but it's still kind of painful I'm kind
4517s	of curious to see what his decision will
4519s	be here in how he wants to un siege that
4522s	City since if he does if he does
4525s	conserve
4526s	his Giant's Health by uning with it he
4529s	won't get sieged the following
4533s	turn Throwing swordsman at at that
4539s	giant so I think here uh I think that
4541s	was a fine play I I you know he hit the
4544s	other giant with a swordsman first to
4545s	you know weaken it very smart idea to
4549s	kind of weaken the giant so he doesn't
4550s	so his giant doesn't get pummeled as
4552s	hard yeah yeah I think that was a very
4556s	nice play so we see uh St here kind of
4560s	playing aggressive with his archers get
4562s	getting one just stomped on by that
4564s	giant there yeah really trying to press
4568s	his advantage and throw his units at his
4571s	opponents as much as he can we see p
4574s	yeah so we see ports that's interesting
4577s	maybe he's hoping for maybe a village in
4579s	the East yeah I think he's hoping for a
4581s	village on the water
4583s	actually yeah there's one
4586s	to land he actually has no water access
4589s	if we look at it closely all his are
4593s	landlocked we
4595s	see we see Marin free spirit um trying
4599s	to save for for nights it looks like and
4603s	uh Australia doesn't have that great A
4604s	Vision on his City so I wonder if we'll
4606s	see a chain in the future with all those
4608s	archers and stuff because I mean estr he
4610s	just he just has a wall of archers I
4612s	mean this all he has ruin M yep he get
4616s	shy but he cannot afford a knight this
4619s	turn unfortunately
4622s	unfortunately um and he does find the
4626s	water City that he is looking
4628s	for he's clumping all these units he's
4631s	very lucky his opponent could not afford
4633s	Knights last turn yes but you will
4636s	definitely be able to get a knight this
4638s	there's a knight y there's the first
4640s	night of the game now will we see the
4642s	major chain yep let's see
4646s	all right oh no it doesn't look like
4648s	aala sees
4650s	it that is massive chain
4653s	goodness let's see yeah this be almost
4656s	every single one of his units together
4658s	wow three starfish very nice yeah oh one
4662s	one two three four five 6
4669s	seven oh he's going to add it oh no
4672s	eight N9 10 11 11 units that's almost
4679s	every single one of a archers entire
4682s	defense yep his entire defense in the
4684s	west is gone collap in one turn yep and
4688s	he only has this giant just standing
4690s	there by himself oh and and another
4693s	Siege on that City oh goodness and
4697s	just that game over very
4702s	well man I was I was wondering he was
4705s	going to turn this around with uh losing
4707s	that water Naval City and just looking
4710s	like he's being locked to land and
4712s	having his um his Mobility cut off
4715s	gradually with those archers but that
4718s	Knight chaining through all the units
4720s	and this double Siege yeah that just
4722s	completely shuts the straight out yeah I
4724s	think this just showcases H the power of
4726s	knights and how vital they can be in
4728s	positions right like Australia here is
4730s	fine you know if he can uh survive uh
4734s	you know his opponent it attacks right
4737s	um the water yeah you can just you know
4740s	get water and you know just you know
4742s	power through with boats and stuff and
4743s	his opponent R can't really do much but
4746s	uh he you know I'm surprised from
4748s	Australia being an experienced player
4749s	you know normally around you know turn
4751s	15 and and you know up you want to be
4753s	careful about Knights and stuff but uh
4756s	Australia was pretty um I don't know
4758s	maybe he just didn't think that his
4759s	opponent had Knights I mean we saw he
4761s	had Ryder and road so you know it was it
4764s	was definitely a possibility so uh I'm
4766s	surprised australa got uh you know he
4769s	got he was kind of lackluster with uh
4771s	you know to see his opponent's threats
4773s	potentially so um but yeah no I mean I
4778s	this game was this game was great you
4779s	know it showcases the power of archers
4781s	and then we see the downfall from from a
4783s	knight you know I think
4785s	that's that's it yeah here you also see
4789s	the biggest thing the importance of
4791s	spacing out your units even if you're
4793s	not sure if your opponent has
4796s	the the cost of spacing out your units
4799s	where and the benefit it's just far too
4802s	big if it'll cost you maybe a little bit
4805s	of micro a little bit of damage maybe
4807s	you can't hit that giant that extra two
4809s	or three times because you have to kind
4810s	of consider where you want to place your
4812s	units and you don't want to chain them
4814s	together but it's a lot a lot a lot
4817s	better than losing every single one of
4820s	your archers except one there's one one
4822s	in that City every single one of your
4824s	archers except one to a single night
4826s	that's just really painful and as you
4828s	can see completely turned the tides of
4830s	this game was this uh play going uh you
4834s	know Navy uh reasonable or would you say
4838s	I think in this situation with his
4840s	archers not being dead yet this was a
4843s	very reasonable play it completely shuts
4845s	his opponent down out of the water
4846s	although his opponent actually had zero
4849s	access to the water after not taking
4851s	border growth but um I do think it was a
4853s	reasonable play as you can see the
4855s	there's these three starfish so his
4858s	Naval Investments almost just pay for
4860s	themselves 24 stars for yeah but um yeah
4864s	the main thing was definitely just this
4866s	chain if this night chain had not
4868s	occurred Australia would definitely be
4870s	way way way ahead in this
4873s	match yeah because then you can go you
4875s	know bombers and then you know like shut
4877s	y your opponent down mhm yep yeah CU
4880s	then because the the thing with this
4882s	stay position is that once he gets a
4884s	really you know nice Naval presence and
4886s	stuff he can just you know have boats on
4889s	uh two of of M's you know two cities
4893s	there on the edge and then he can't
4894s	train any units there um and so he only
4897s	has two units to train from um and if a
4900s	stray has archers then he can really
4902s	only train units from his Capital uh so
4905s	yeah he could just completely just kind
4907s	of box him in uh but yeah know he kind
4909s	of uh you know blunders this this night
4912s	this night chain here and yeah throws
4914s	the game away which is super unfortunate
4917s	but yeah no it very
4919s	interesting that's the way it is yeah
4922s	okay let's go to our last game of this
4927s	evening
4962s	[Music]
4964s	okay
4966s	sorry yeah yeah I was I was a bit
4970s	confused because this looks very much
4971s	like the uh Reds versus V uh Forest game
4975s	yeah sorry because it's it's uh it's
4978s	drland again
4979s	[Music]
4980s	and yeah okay there you
4984s	go oh my goodness I immediately look at
4988s	this game and I see it this density yeah
4992s	almost perfect density that's crazy yeah
4996s	this is mm yeah sorry uh so this is M
5000s	lamp against
5002s	Liberator mhm uh yeah so
5006s	theity SP very good players in
5010s	po yeah so we see both of them have um
5015s	access to three villages all you know
5017s	two t you know two tiles away from the
5019s	capital
5021s	um uh you know me lamp
5023s	has you know I I think me lamps I'm
5027s	trying to look at resources here his
5030s	resources are a little bit more diverse
5032s	um you know with him only having you
5035s	know a couple forests in uh his first
5038s	few cities but then he has like two
5040s	mountains in that one Center City
5041s	meanwhile if we look at over at um Lee
5046s	liberators um he has let's see one he
5050s	doesn't have any mountains in his
5051s	Capital unfortunately um but he has two
5053s	in that South City one in that West City
5056s	and then one of one in his north city so
5058s	I'd be interesting to see uh what what
5061s	they each decide to go for um
5065s	and Lum has those two ruins
5068s	and doesn't have any this is like very
5071s	unfortunate it does seem like the ruins
5072s	are kind of on the edge though so there
5074s	is a chance that he doesn't find them
5077s	until M yeah Okie do let's play
5082s	the
5087s	replay both moving towards W going for
5090s	that early early Lighthouse as well both
5093s	going for the yeah both of them going
5096s	for the lighthouse wow
5099s	okay yeah well really really going for
5103s	that one turn earlier
5106s	Workshop yeah which you know with with
5108s	Wenger I think it's just I mean you know
5111s	we we see it from from you know really
5113s	strong players you know maybe that's
5115s	just the best play here just going for
5117s	that it does get you two stars per turn
5119s	since you're getting that Workshop one
5120s	turn earlier yeah and so if we see here
5122s	if we uh if we go back to the last turn
5125s	for Meister
5128s	lamp
5130s	so yeah so it allows him to train three
5132s	units here
5134s	right right and so it allows them to
5136s	expand in three different directions now
5139s	instead of you know just two with your
5141s	standard war and I think this is kind of
5142s	the benefit of the lighthouse right you
5145s	go for the lighthouse you get that extra
5147s	star per turn but it also allows you to
5149s	train that extra unit and scoop up that
5151s	extra Village that you may potentially
5153s	have right um and in this case for
5155s	Meister lamp it's the perfect play right
5157s	um he gets that East Village a little
5159s	bit sooner um and he's also scooping up
5161s	that West Village and he has he has that
5163s	swordsman in the center just holding
5165s	down you know everything so I think this
5167s	is like perfect um I really like my ster
5170s	position
5174s	here the Liberator on the other hand um
5178s	trying to uh expand we see my slime goes
5181s	for
5182s	forestry he ends up chopping
5186s	um they both go for forestry interesting
5189s	yeah all Explorers so
5191s	farer Archer okay love to see it one of
5195s	them goes for archery one of them goes
5196s	for
5198s	climbing
5200s	okay I do think that uh archery might
5203s	have been a little bit Hasty just
5205s	because um the expansion isn't
5208s	completely done yet and uh with
5210s	investing in archery this early you're
5212s	kind of hurting your Eco a little bit
5214s	and Hees doesn't have too many places to
5216s	train those archers yet he's popca in a
5219s	lot of his cities so he he did just free
5221s	up good amount of population with those
5224s	captures yes we see Lee Liberator
5226s	running into the same you know
5228s	problem my started going archery himself
5231s	but a turn later mhm and oh it looks
5235s	like the Liberator is the first one to
5238s	find that
5241s	ruin yeah and he his opponents
5245s	does not know that Village is there so
5248s	he can safely claim it I think unless
5250s	there's a unless the Archer was in range
5252s	I'm not sure yeah that Archer is not in
5254s	range so that's just a free ruin for
5262s	later maest Lampe playing pretty
5264s	aggressive with his archers moving two
5266s	of them to the front line although his
5268s	opponent only has enough to kill one of
5270s	them getting a pop ruin which is really
5273s	good
5276s	yeah we see uh lee Liberator getting a
5279s	the pop yeah which I think is is I think
5282s	with the vanguards is just like really
5284s	important especially with Lee Liberator
5286s	like resource distribution especially on
5287s	his Capital um I think it'll be you know
5290s	become very vital for a giant
5294s	leader interesting decision from The
5296s	Liberator to train a warrior in that
5298s	level one city despite seeing the Archer
5300s	and swordsman in range last turn um
5306s	yeah yeah so
5308s	here yeah here he you see that
5311s	in I don't even know how you say that
5313s	cthot he decides to train a warrior
5315s	despite seeing the immediate threat but
5318s	I think the main reason why he does this
5320s	is because it forces out the Archer shot
5322s	in order to Siege and when he has so
5324s	many units on the front line he wants to
5326s	limit his opponent's options in
5329s	attacking and getting the sieges so that
5331s	he can be the one on the offensive and
5333s	be able to kill that Archer
5335s	afterwards M yeah and he does have
5338s	enough to un Siege so there's no no no
5341s	threats of losing the city here yeah I
5343s	think they're both trying to race the
5345s	killer Monument as fast as possible
5347s	because I think that'll really determine
5349s	who can get their giant first right like
5351s	M easily has a giant with Mining and
5354s	smithery in the center with you know
5356s	with the killer Monument oh here we see
5358s	a first veteran of the game yep we do
5361s	see that which is very nice um is this
5365s	the first veteran we've seen all day
5367s	or um yeah I think so yeah first vetan
5372s	we've seen all day yeah because uh in
5374s	this game between um in the first game I
5378s	think that there were the the
5381s	veteran but he eventually did not
5384s	upgrade them to Veterans but yeah very
5386s	few veterans in this in this stream
5389s	yeah all righty yep so we see um Lee
5393s	Liberator just has that a wall of
5395s	archers behind that you know his City
5396s	there here's killer yep so both we'll be
5401s	seeing our first giant soon yep
5405s	hopefully okay so we see the UN Siege in
5407s	the South there you know Lee Liberator
5410s	just picking away at those
5411s	Swordsmen oh and Li Liberator actually
5414s	gets his giant first oh he also has his
5416s	killer Monument already yeah so giant
5420s	there that's going to pose a problem for
5423s	for um my lamp
5427s	here my lamp is unfazed continuous
5431s	killing archers and just picking off
5432s	units wherever he can here is his own
5436s	giant
5438s	mm yep Giant in the center of the map I
5441s	really like this this play for Meister
5443s	lamp I think it just holds down that
5445s	that Center Village even even
5447s	better um interesting play with oh okay
5452s	I did not see that level two for Bo was
5455s	going to say why didn't he
5459s	giant but yeah we can see that uh he's
5462s	me lamp is really breaking into his
5465s	opponent's backline and just forcing
5466s	these archers to space out even though
5468s	it's like so far in the backline
5471s	stting up a easy
5476s	push we see another giant from Liberator
5480s	in the east
5485s	first explorer okay oh misses the
5489s	lighthouse that one's easy to get though
5491s	that's fine
5493s	yeah lious too it's unfortunate that's
5496s	terrible yeah there's really no way for
5498s	him to get there now
5500s	um which is just really really
5505s	unfortunate we see me lamp trying to get
5507s	his economy
5509s	up training more and more archers just
5512s	Archer Galore well there like dead even
5515s	with Eco though they're both making like
5517s	24 25 starts per turn M yeah know this
5520s	map is very very even right now although
5522s	it looks like um wow the arer spam is
5525s	crazy I think uh correct me if I'm wrong
5528s	but the Liberator only has archers and
5531s	Giants and that singular Warrior right
5533s	there right he or any other units and
5537s	same thing from Meister lamp he only has
5539s	archers and
5541s	Giants so really showcasing just how
5545s	useful archers are as support units he
5548s	go oh The Liberator finally goes for
5551s	writing here to try to kind of break
5553s	through the Archer line maybe work work
5555s	his way towards Knights yep I think
5557s	riding is a really nice play Ro too Ro
5560s	is also a very nice play um you know
5562s	stems into markets also gives his army a
5565s	little bit more versatility and can kind
5566s	of challenge those archers a little bit
5569s	more cuz you know Swordsmen aren't
5571s	really going to touch archers if you
5572s	have a lot of them you know they're just
5573s	going to move forward and die
5576s	so getting his roads
5579s	connections yep trying to looks like
5581s	he's trying to get Grand Bazar
5583s	maybe potentially get that giant on his
5588s	capital and like I stated earlier you
5590s	know getting that pop ruin early on now
5593s	going to allow him to get that giant in
5594s	his Capital once he connects to City so
5598s	and it looks like we are going to see
5599s	our first Giant die soon have 14 HP on a
5603s	defense tile but uh that should be able
5606s	to that Meister does have enough to kill
5608s	it if he wants to
5611s	spiritualism does kill
5613s	it
5615s	okay ah yes so legendary
5618s	spiritualism ruin very yes yeah well you
5623s	never know right uh we see you know we
5626s	see Lee Liberator going for um you know
5628s	roads and riding so I mean if it goes if
5631s	they go for nights maybe we'll see a
5633s	spiritualism play you know
5635s	oh gosh I'm seeing all these units
5637s	clumping together I'm little scared even
5640s	though I know there's no Knights yet I'm
5643s	see that still makes
5647s	me a little nervous yeah this map is
5650s	screaming Knights right now Knights
5652s	would just be very very strong for oh
5654s	and a star ruin I'm surprised he did not
5657s	immediately invest Knights here actually
5659s	just instead deciding to go oh he did he
5662s	needed roads to get that on Siege I
5664s	think think okay yeah which is fine I
5667s	think Road's here and uh for for you
5670s	know to un Siege and also just give your
5671s	units more Mobility is I think it's
5673s	worth also gives him another giant it
5676s	looks like he was saving up for it
5678s	anyway so even if he didn't get that
5679s	star ruin he would we would have been
5681s	able to buy Rose and un Siege just fine
5685s	yep so we see those archers uh you know
5688s	picking away stuff but archers kind of
5690s	moving back staying in the Liberator
5692s	territory
5695s	um but no every single units that's like
5698s	together we see free spirit free spirit
5701s	friendly Liberator oore are we going to
5703s	see a juicy juicy night
5706s	chain oh another veteran wow we're
5709s	seeing lots of veterans this match I
5711s	think that's the third veteran we've
5712s	seen the first one being an Archer and
5714s	then a warrior and now another Archer
5717s	yeah well you know with all these
5718s	archers getting all these kills I'm I'm
5720s	not surprised I mean they they only have
5722s	like 20 of them on the field you
5727s	know both of them kind of clumping their
5729s	units together are we going to see any
5732s	major chains this game is it going to be
5734s	a replay of the game with Australia
5737s	where one night chain decides the whole
5739s	game oh
5741s	man making me
5745s	anxious all right get R get some really
5748s	nice sieges on on really aggressively
5751s	too actually just advancing his entire
5754s	lineup having archers on the front
5756s	line yeah surpris he's actually going
5759s	for any more Super units I thought he
5761s	would just go straight for the for the
5763s	knights
5764s	here well I mean when you have Riders
5767s	you know and stuff you know you can kind
5768s	of you know force your opponent to try
5770s	and deal with you know your your
5773s	Frontline units and then if they move
5774s	any of their units up then you can just
5776s	kill them right yeah
5780s	so my lamp here also going for a few
5783s	sieges of his own
5785s	whittling away at his opponent's Army
5786s	getting some value wherever he
5788s	can another veteran
5797s	wow we're just seeing all the veteran
5799s	units come out in this
5801s	game
5803s	yeah all right we see the
5806s	unes we see no kns yeah we see L
5809s	Liberator has a couple of of giants
5812s	pushing in the center there
5814s	um yeah I I I'm I'm starting to wonder
5817s	if uh if there was a better I think uh
5821s	there had to have been a better use of
5823s	uh lul Rider Stars if he's going for if
5826s	he went for free spirit but even now I
5829s	think it was like what two three turns
5831s	Ago by this point and he still hasn't
5833s	got some Knights so now he finally getss
5837s	I think he should have saved his stars
5838s	and probably invested them in a
5840s	different place in order to yeah we see
5844s	M we see mice the lamp scooping up that
5846s	Village in the west with that giant just
5848s	roding his GI yeah very smart play kind
5850s	of being patient with it not making any
5852s	obvious place for it and then suddenly
5854s	bam Giant on the village yep I think
5857s	that was a really really nice play just
5858s	gives him another city to train units
5860s	from you know any extra population slots
5864s	are always really really
5866s	helpful oh and he goes for math here so
5871s	one of them continuously working up on
5873s	their
5874s	kind of getting ready to train more
5877s	Giants and just get more stronger
5882s	up yeah whereas the other one going for
5884s	Knights and are we gonna see a big chain
5888s	here yeah let's see let's
5891s	see do we see
5894s	it no oh I think we are going to see
5900s	it yep one all the way into the capital
5905s	wow four five
5907s	six yep there's the resign So Not only
5911s	was it a massive chain it was a massive
5913s	CH into an unbreakable cap Siege veteran
5917s	Knights amazing
5919s	wow oh with that swordsman and that
5923s	Knight but uh yeah his uh entire Army
5926s	just crumbled in one
5928s	turn yep so we see you know just strike
5932s	again changing the entire higher
5934s	position um you know we we go actually
5937s	kind of curious did did Meister not have
5939s	Vision on that night if we go back to
5941s	Meers he did not have I see only is that
5945s	the only two cities he did not have
5948s	Vision one yeah two cities beautifully
5950s	done beautifully done yeah yeah so your
5955s	thoughts what what could have been done
5957s	differently uh was there a way to
5959s	prevent this I think um I think just the
5963s	practice of spacing your units out is so
5967s	important especially in like games like
5970s	this where you know you've been chaining
5972s	your units together for a long time like
5974s	turn
5975s	23 like that's you should definitely be
5979s	expecting Knights or like your
5980s	opponent's working towards Knights by
5982s	turn
5983s	23 um a practice I like to do is if I
5987s	ever noticed that I'm getting a lot of
5988s	squishy units like riders or archers or
5991s	Warriors without defense bonus then I'll
5994s	just clumping them into groups of Two
5996s	And the reason why I do groups of two is
5998s	because groups of one is too inefficient
6001s	I can't I don't have the space to do
6003s	groups of one and it limits my unit
6007s	placement too much I I got to space them
6009s	out too carefully it means that a lot of
6011s	units can't attack together groups of
6014s	three means that the Knight can get
6016s	veteran which makes it a little bit
6018s	harder to kill and a little bit more
6020s	tricky but if I really don't have the
6022s	room I guess groups of three will do but
6023s	groups of two is kind of like the sweet
6025s	spot where your opponent doesn't get
6027s	veteran and with almost any combination
6030s	of two except for a Knights catapults
6033s	and Swordsmen you're going to be getting
6035s	value from that two Warriors are four
6038s	stars two Riders are six stars so just
6041s	one Knight killing two units is a
6045s	negative trade for your opponent since
6046s	that Knight is eight stars and will most
6048s	likely be dying after killing those two
6050s	units yeah I'm I'm surprised in both of
6053s	these position with knights that we've
6054s	seen you know we see Australia and lamp
6056s	you know two very very experienced
6058s	players both very strong um in any
6061s	format of of gameplay but it just kind
6063s	of um it looks like kns just like slip
6065s	their mind which is to me kind of
6067s	surprising you know I feel like around
6069s	you know I say turn 15 but you know you
6072s	can even wait till later you know
6074s	occasionally um you know turn 18 19 or
6076s	something you know um to try and you
6078s	know space your units and out and stuff
6080s	but um I'm surprised that they both kind
6083s	of just it like slipped their mind and
6085s	they just didn't really you know think
6086s	about it um you know know on the clock
6089s	and and probably you know after a few
6091s	games so it's like your mind is not like
6095s	you know 100% there yeah yeah I can I
6099s	can see that um and also you know the
6101s	time pressure too right you know when
6104s	get into the late games you know turns
6105s	start taking a lot longer you know you
6107s	don't have as much time um so um I I can
6110s	see time playing a a massive Factor here
6113s	in in this game but yeah both opponents
6116s	played super super
6118s	well
6121s	yeah uh and it's also much more you know
6124s	kind of tricky to uh to defend against
6127s	Knights on those drland maps in uh in
6130s	comparison with with Lakes where there's
6133s	much less
6135s	land uh so yeah so it's it's easier to
6138s	defend uh against against Knights
6141s	especially when they have roads and
6143s	stuff Knights move six tiles which is a
6145s	Bas you know basically like half the map
6147s	you know so very very
6150s	tricky yeah yeah any any last thoughts
6153s	on on the on those games which which one
6157s	you think it's was uh was the like the
6160s	highlight of this of the stream I got to
6163s	say this match was my favorite one just
6165s	because beautiful micro from both
6167s	players we saw a lot of Veteran
6169s	promotions I feel like like I was a
6172s	little little saddened by the ending
6175s	kind of like just a night chain into the
6177s	capital I mean it was a great night
6179s	chain but I feel like it was a at this
6181s	high level of play I wasn't expecting a
6183s	player to blunder such a big chain and
6186s	just resign after I mean you kind of had
6188s	to resign after that but wondering that
6190s	big chain was yeah but I think uh just
6193s	one one last note about this game I
6196s	think maybe me Lampo would have played a
6198s	bit longer if not for this uh giant
6202s	chain uh sorry
6204s	Siege as well yeah yeah that giant that
6207s	chain meant that he could not un Siege
6209s	and losing that city was would have been
6212s	really bad for him so yeah
6215s	Reaper um yeah I think that last game
6218s	was definitely the most interesting
6220s	right like it went to turn 23 I was um I
6223s	was uh I wanted to see the game going to
6226s	a really strange state where we see um
6229s	you know Knights versus uh Defenders
6232s	cloaks MH I kind of wanted to see that
6235s	kind of a counter play because we could
6237s	CU I Defenders Defenders against benger
6240s	are like super tricky eventually you
6242s	know especially against Knights right um
6244s	so I think uh it definitely would have
6246s	been a you know a little bit more what
6249s	are your thoughts on uh the state of
6252s	like cloaks and diplom well not
6254s	diplomacy just cloaks now that markets
6256s	are a thing and that like in the late
6258s	game most of your income is coming from
6260s	markets and like level eight markets
6263s	most of the time if you can really set
6264s	everything up properly as opposed to
6267s	your cities where like cloak can't
6269s	really deny Market income um I think
6272s	like in the where um like mathematics
6275s	and stuff because then you have the
6276s	force for the defense bonus for the
6277s	daggers I think it I think cloaks are
6279s	still like extremely strong I mean I
6281s	think I mean if you're cloaking a city
6283s	of return I think you know that your
6284s	opponent's probably bound to lose it
6286s	unless they have Knights or or something
6288s	there um well with how high level like
6291s	if you're assuming that you're really
6293s	going going into a late late game and
6294s	having super high markets up I would
6296s	assume that your opponent has the has
6300s	the proper tools has the knights has the
6302s	Riders to deal with the cloaks right I'm
6304s	I'm lowkey like wondering like if we
6307s	should increase what like what are your
6309s	thoughts about like increasing the
6310s	number of daggers that cloa spawn
6313s	because right now it's limited at is it
6315s	four or five five right it's five yeah
6317s	it's limited to five right now cuz um
6320s	with markets being a thing we're seeing
6322s	more border growths and less worries
6324s	about cloaks just because you have the
6327s	Stars to you know just eat the like eat
6330s	the loss of the stars and be fine with
6333s	your markets so I'm wondering like if we
6336s	might potentially see like a what maybe
6339s	a question because you're both more
6341s	experienced that I am uh does it really
6343s	happen uh in V games that you that you
6346s	get not vengar games because most of the
6348s	time in vengar games you're not going
6350s	for organization and uh strategy
6354s	into cloaks but I think for for other
6358s	tribes
6359s	maybe yeah I I agree with that
6363s	M yeah so maybe that's a that's like a
6368s	message for for mean maybe maybe more
6371s	more daggers uh there are always some
6373s	some kind of you know adjustments going
6375s	on so maybe they will see that uh this
6380s	you know relationship between uh markets
6383s	and and the diplomacy doesn't work in uh
6386s	anymore so because the same thing is is
6389s	with the with the sanctuaries right it's
6392s	like uh the uh cloaks don't take this
6395s	this income from you if you have
6397s	sanctuaries yeah so maybe there will be
6399s	some adjustments let's see yeah yeah of
6402s	course I'd love to see it okay I had a
6405s	great time with you uh watching all
6408s	those all those games thanks for your um
6411s	your comments and uh all the um yeah for
6415s	the
6416s	time thank you for having us next next
6419s	next streams yeah of course I appreciate
6422s	you inviting me on this was great I love
6424s	it thanks uh so thanks everyone for
6428s	watching uh if you'd like to uh like try
6432s	yourself uh in the in the in the in the
6436s	polium uh tournaments go to the um to
6439s	the description there is a there is a
6441s	link so uh now there is uh what which
6444s	tribe uh is it now it's it's barter it's
6447s	barter right now yeah so barter polium
6449s	is going on right now so if you like B
6453s	go ahead and and join the the polium if
6455s	you like bullets you have to uh go to
6458s	the poly Champs uh server and then uh
6461s	once
6462s	you become a Nova uh then you can you
6466s	can yeah try bullets as well this this
6469s	is a completely different format but
6471s	also interesting so yeah we encourag to
6475s	um yeah to
6476s	play okay um thanks thanks again and and
6480s	see you on the on the on the next
6482s	streams bye all right bye bye bye guys

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