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7s polytopians it's the big bear and Toby
11s and welcome to the polytopia May 2023
15s tribe Moon we have luxador uh this
18s started off as a tournament with 64
20s players and we're down to the finals of
23s the top two so this should be an
24s exciting game that's absolutely correct
27s our two Champions are gonna be mcgoon
30s playing as the red Lux door on the
33s western side of the map and Senor evanso
37s playing as the purple luxador on the
40s Eastern side of the map yeah and I'm
42s really excited for this game we have two
44s of the top players they survived the
47s tournament of 64 and now we're in the
49s finals uh how about we talk a little bit
52s about each player's opening that we
53s already see two different strategies
55s going on that is absolutely correct we
59s have Magoon starting off with her
61s traditional Lux door opening immediately
63s with three Warriors as luxador has that
66s bonus with the start of the level 2
69s Capital however because of how the map
71s has spawned out we have senior evanso
73s it's decided to opt with only two
76s Warriors gambling that there's enough no
78s land beyond that singular Mountain
81s um where they're gonna have a slightly
82s stronger economy in the early game but
84s the production is going to suffer
86s because of that yeah interesting indeed
88s uh we'll see how this plays out with the
90s three Warriors versus the two uh on this
93s Lakes map it already seems like we have
95s a lot of water in the middle and Mick
97s goon is gonna get an early Explorer and
99s it's gonna give him a decent Scout of
101s the northern part of the map and ooh
106s immediately looks like senior episodes
108s able to get a veteran swordsman from
111s those ruins that's gonna give them a
113s very strong combat Advantage especially
115s fighting for the southern side of the
116s map
117s yeah that is huge here we see that
121s Warrior we see these two Warriors down
123s to the South and now he has his veteran
124s swordsman and now we see the Scout from
127s mcgoon and he's gonna get another
129s Explorer and reveals pretty much the
132s entire side of the map of senior evanso
134s that is very interesting as that Scout
137s has given magoons very bit useful bits
139s of information that not even senior
141s Evans I was aware about as there's
143s actually a village tucked away right
144s there in that fog
146s that is an amazing Scout uh as we can
149s see Senior evanso has no idea this one
153s piece of fog uh it's hot in the village
156s right here and Magoon meanwhile has that
159s advantage in The Scouting department and
161s that is going to come into a major and
164s that's going to be uh very important
166s later on as we see uh senior episode
168s only has four villages in the sites
171s we're really five with these two uh
173s contested Villages potentially but he
176s only has three under his control and two
178s more that are potentially contested
179s meanwhile Magoon had already is on five
182s Villages and he has two more or three
185s more in the site because of that Scout
187s absolutely some of the benefits of this
190s veteran swordsman as well as the smaller
193s City play is actually allowing senior
196s evanso to rush out of giants already on
198s their turn nine
200s which is gonna be allowing them to use
202s their sailing to fight for the center of
204s the map as this lake is gonna be very
206s essential to figure out who the victor
208s of this match is going to be yeah and I
211s think right now it makes sense we could
212s take a look at this Tech tree for both
214s players and see how they differ so so
217s this is the tech tree of senior episode
219s The Purple player who's opted straight
221s for forestry that's skipping out on
223s mathematics as they already have the
225s selling technology this is going to give
227s them a early Advantage fighting for that
229s Lake despite their lack of production
232s left smaller City count and so taking a
235s bit of a risk here going more so for the
238s tech of sailing realizing it's a lot of
240s water but that does delay his economy a
243s little bit uh not having mathematics and
245s if we go ahead and look at mcgoons Tech
247s Tree uh what do you see here and we can
250s see right here that Magoon also has
253s sailing but they haven't been able to
254s place down a port yet looks like they
256s were able to grab the technology either
258s through ruins or just researching the
261s technology through a caption looking at
263s the tech tree he's ahead in villages and
266s a little bit of more Tech as well
269s already having organization so very
272s interesting start to the game here let's
274s see how this plays out and right on cue
277s he throws down that first port and he's
279s going to take resources at that Village
280s as well
281s absolutely
283s the main difference between the two is
285s while uh senior Evan so has less
288s production he already has the Giants and
290s is going to be able to get one maybe two
292s Giants on the water very early on
294s whereas magoons can have to spend a
296s little bit more time to dedicate your
298s resources just to get their first Giants
300s on the board
302s very very true uh having that giant
305s especially if he's able to turn this
307s boat into an early Battleship that's
308s going to give him a huge advantage and
310s he also gets this Explorer down to the
312s South that is gonna give him a scout of
315s the middle here doesn't show him too
317s much that he didn't already know though
318s oh that's a rough Scout that Scout made
321s every attempt it could go all the way
323s back and backtrack but it did let him
325s see where the peninsula is on the center
327s of the map and where senior evanso
330s actually needs to be fighting for
332s exactly here and we see we have a battle
334s up to the north uh clearing out that uh
337s potential uncaptured Village uh with the
340s warrior already has a few boats in the
342s water including this big boy Battleship
344s and he's upgrading the village down to
347s the South as well that is a hundred
349s percent correct uh however since there's
352s the ship that's already there to allow
355s senior Evan soda can test for the
357s village all that mcgoons can be able to
359s do is try to force uh senior evanso to
362s spend time repairing that and
364s fighting it onto the mountain but he's
366s absolutely going to be getting up that
368s Village
371s very true and we also see that Magoon
375s has uh Siege this Village down to the
378s South and I don't believe Evan soul is
380s gonna be able to take this back he's
382s invested a lot into this Army up to the
384s north doesn't have a lot down south but
386s he does finally see uh this Village
388s thanks to that Scout and it looks like
390s he's gonna move the warrior back to
392s capture that as he captures the village
394s to the north as well
395s wow I was missing I was focusing fully
397s on the naval combat I'm more of a naval
400s player when it comes to Lakes especially
402s on a map like this I actually missed
403s that combat in the South so it looks
406s like they're going to be making a trade
408s Magoon is going to be focusing on the
409s land battle in the South while senior
412s Evanston is gonna get that Lake
413s advantage while it looks like uh senior
416s evanso's actually gonna be at a
418s disadvantage right from the get-go's
419s passing up and early upgraded City I
424s really think the amount of resources
426s that's already been invested into the
427s water is gonna give purple a huge
429s advantage in the late game
431s yeah it definitely seems like Evan so
434s will have the advantage in the late game
436s uh he has control of this water and I
439s really think that's going to be the
440s deciding factor having all of these
443s boats and ships in the middle of the map
444s he can be pesky along the shore kind of
447s controlling uh the art the land Army of
450s Magoon as well as start to uh hopefully
454s capture some of these villages to press
456s his advantage
459s really correct so whenever you're
461s playing on maps what are you always
462s trying to prioritize
465s well I'm I'm nowhere near on the level
468s of these players but I think for myself
470s uh I I have a tendency to be a bit
472s greedy I kind of prioritize my economy
475s um I feel like if I have a strong
476s economy it'll help me out in the late
478s game and then build a strong Army to
481s hopefully Crush my opponent uh what
482s about you
484s uh I am definitely a very aggressive
487s player I always try to force my opponent
490s in a bad position and get every little
492s combat Edge I possibly can that usually
495s means I suffer in the late game because
497s of my economy so that's two completely
499s different places that ends up coming
502s from that I could guess you could say
503s that I play a little bit more like how
505s red does here even though I fully
507s acknowledge that probably has the
508s advantage
509s a hundred percent 100 uh and that just
513s shows you is multiple ways to play the
515s game of polytopia that's what makes it
516s such a great game
518s um as we can see two different
519s strategies from our players here both
522s giving them advantages pros and cons
524s advantages and disadvantages
526s um I think purple's a little stronger in
528s a late game going for Border growth in
530s the north uh to open up access for more
533s ports for himself he has a huge navy uh
537s for this point in the game in the middle
538s of the map
540s um but red does have a tremendous City
542s Advantage right now
545s um but getting that other Explorer
547s Explorer now purple has a full Scout of
550s the map
552s man if purple could actually pick up uh
555s they actually no they have the eye of
557s God they've actually got the monument
559s yeah that's a monument and you really
561s get to see in these kind of games yeah
564s you rarely get that Monument especially
566s in a competitive game like this but uh
568s amazing job scouting some clutch
570s explorers and uh using that Navy to get
572s some scouting as well and as we can see
575s red is looking pretty strong though he
577s doesn't have the Navy to contend so he's
580s uh going ahead he has a couple super
582s units in the middle of the map
584s um he's kind of abandoned the ports even
586s though he's getting a couple more boats
587s so try to keep up with purple but purple
590s has just slid into the middle of a city
594s here and this is a huge huge City if
596s he's able to capture this yeah I know
599s red absolutely Lagoon can't let that
601s City go down because that's gonna get
603s rid of all of the defense that he's
605s gonna have against purple's Navy he's
606s actually gonna have to try to see if he
608s could get a giant push right there looks
611s like from my opinion on this sort of map
614s um that's gonna have to acknowledge that
616s they may have lost the Navy battle but
618s because of their southern city they may
621s be able to fight and contest on the land
623s and push towards the capital and during
627s the Navy completely
629s yeah and he is able to get that push out
631s that is huge there uh and I I agree with
635s you uh the battle is gonna be tough for
637s him to win this Navy battle unless he's
640s able to oh he's actually landlocked at
643s this C right here so yeah uh I was gonna
645s say he can sneaking build ships here but
647s pretty much all his ports are pretty
649s much in range of these ships within a
651s turn or two so he may have to forego uh
654s the Navy battle like you said and build
657s just try to out compete him on land and
659s press his Advantage because he does have
661s the stronger land Army and more villages
665s even though if
669s Fury of where the legs map is is
670s sometimes you gotta decide are you gonna
672s focus on the land or on the sea and
674s battleships are very expensive you could
677s be spending 20 points on a singular
679s Battleship if not more also including
681s the just the uh land unit itself or you
684s could be getting three nights for
685s roughly the same cost
688s and uh wait Paul wait hold on did he
694s did he go for a park instead of a
698s um
699s wait
702s oh this is Glory Park oh oh this is a
707s glory map oh oh that's a huge deal yeah
712s that that we missed that one
715s that's that's a massive deal so oh
719s pushing Giants out all the time but in
722s the game mode like this where it's all
724s about the glory and rushing for those
726s points monuments and giant well Giants
729s aren't as necessary and you may actually
731s picking up the parts so instead of you
733s getting I believe it is 50 stars you're
736s gonna go for the 250 instead
738s that is very interesting that changes
741s the dynamic of the game here he's the
744s first player to 10 000 points wins
747s versus a might game where you're just
748s trying to capture the opponent's capital
750s or you know just weaken them enough to
752s where they can't come back so very
755s interesting and that this means that
757s purple is way ahead here if we check his
759s score he is already at 8 000 points
762s meanwhile mcgoon our red player is only
765s at 6400.
767s that is absolutely correct and believe
769s it or not the glory map mode actually
772s benefits the players with the less
774s cities if you can set up a very strong
776s defensive line
778s uh you're gonna be able to afford text a
780s lot easier than a player with more
782s cities especially in the early mid game
784s now the late game not as much when
787s trading posts are out and about
789s everywhere but at this point everyone is
791s still just trying to fight to get their
794s military out and establish their points
796s on the board
797s a hundred percent you can afford a lot
801s more City you can afford a lot more
803s Technologies and Technologies are points
805s a hundred percent uh a completely
808s different strategy than a mic game which
810s is primarily what I play so this uh
812s Glory mode it employs a bit of a
815s different strategy you're just trying to
817s get
817s points on the board versus uh when uh
821s you know win battles and you know try to
823s dominate the map so he's being annoying
826s here keeps capturing the center Village
827s as he's trying to get his economy up and
830s he only needs about uh less than 2 000
832s points to win the game
834s absolutely and if uh senior Evans able
837s to pick up that Central City there's a
839s monument there and that is also an
841s expanded piece of territory if he can
844s steal that land that's nearly a thousand
845s points right there itself It's gotta be
848s at least 700 at least at least it has to
852s be and as we can see he's uh attacking
855s down to the South now uh trying to do
858s something with this Village he's of
860s course destroying these boats
862s um to keep his Navy Advantage he doesn't
864s want mcgoon building up his Navy as he
867s builds a ton of more boats on this map
869s and he's attacking with that Rider that
872s just zoomed down and he's capturing this
873s Village he has a catapult back here uh
876s to prevent
877s um mcgoon from pressing forward anymore
880s well that is a veteran Warrior it's
883s gonna be really hard to repel that
884s luckily there are three units ready to
886s just fight that off and is going to be
888s able to set up a fence but we've got
890s catapults we've got a massive Navy I
892s don't think that magoon's gonna be able
894s to win this by repelling the neighboring
896s they're going to have to find a way to
897s sneak in the last 3 500 points what
900s would you be aiming for in order to turn
901s the situation around
903s man that is a great question here let's
906s take another look at uh let's take a
908s look at the scoreboard here as we can
910s see
911s um senior Evan so is about 1800 or about
916s 1700 points away from winning this game
919s and meanwhile Magoon has some work to do
922s he's pretty much what four 4 200 points
925s away from potentially winning this game
927s uh we can take a look at the tech tree
929s uh of both players we can see here
932s mcgoon already has Customs houses roads
935s and Riders uh and he's he does have
938s sailing but he hasn't been able to do
939s too much because because of the early
941s Naval advantage of senior Evans so and
945s meanwhile if we take a look at senior
948s Evan Souls Tech Tree he has mathematics
950s he has navigation already has well in as
953s well in terms of what each player can do
956s to win this game from here I think get
958s into more lumber Huts he already has
960s some pretty big ones here it's still a
962s couple spots where you can get some
963s maybe smaller Lumber Huts I think
965s building more ports may be going and
967s upgrading for Customs houses will be
969s huge for him as well and on the other
971s side of the map uh mcgoone I think he
975s has to find a way to make something
977s happen here uh he doesn't have too much
979s traction here in the north with that
981s catapult and he gets his spam Riders and
983s warriors to defend also in the middle of
986s the map the Navy is locking this down
989s right now so I think his best chance is
991s to try to make something happen here in
993s the South uh maybe go for mathematics to
996s try to get some Lumber Huts to get his
997s points up and use so take advantage of
1001s those Customs houses as well even though
1002s you know he's going to have a tough time
1004s building a Navy uh maybe building some
1006s customs houses to also get his economy
1008s going as well well what do you what do
1010s you see here
1011s I actually think that if a lagoon can
1015s find a way to force senior evanso to
1017s waste the resources on think besides
1019s technology for leveling up their cities
1022s uh Magoon actually has the minor
1024s advantage to be able to catch up as
1026s their Customs houses are a lot closer
1028s together specifically just for three
1030s cities uh they have a customs house that
1032s could reach level four one that can
1034s reach level three and one that can reach
1036s level well two and three depending on
1038s where you place it in the capital all
1041s within the same vicinity of that small
1043s Lake that had that senior MSO has no
1046s access to
1047s foreign
1048s that is a fantastic Point those uh
1051s Customs houses he has some or especially
1054s considering the map size and the amount
1056s of water on the map he has a a chance to
1058s get some really strong Customs houses
1060s and catch up and score pretty quick
1062s right the one downside of Customs houses
1065s they take time yes they absolutely
1068s spiral your economy out of control and
1070s give you a huge Advantage but for the
1073s amount of time you have to invest into a
1074s customs house it's about five turns and
1077s a lot can happen in five turns 100 you
1080s can expand to find your first few cities
1083s at the start of the game in five turns
1085s you're already finding your second set
1088s in a late game that's a bigger deal
1091s a hundred percent as we can see we have
1094s this battle for the north going on
1096s Magoon is trying to defend and make sure
1098s that uh senior episode doesn't push too
1101s far he's starting to use these Riders to
1103s try to do something about this Navy
1105s that's been bothering him all game and
1107s he's using these Riders to attack and
1109s fall back to the South as well uh don't
1112s damage to these Warriors and it seems
1114s like he's thinking more defensive while
1116s he builds up the Customs houses to uh
1118s catch up and score
1120s nine is absolutely the correct play that
1123s needs to be done because while he can
1124s play defensively he can also be leveling
1127s up all his cities improving his Customs
1129s houses at the same time getting more
1131s score improving his economy he can
1133s slowly inch his way back to where he
1135s needs to be in order to win this game
1137s a hundred percent attacking with that
1139s catapult and he's gonna take out that
1141s super unit and it's not much defending
1143s this uh Center Village here I don't know
1145s if he'll be able to get another push out
1147s I guess he can build a couple more ports
1149s but that's going to be very expensive
1150s and down to the South here we see uh
1154s senior evanso is attacking the Southern
1156s Village he's gonna capture that and
1158s Siege it as well he will be able to
1160s unseize that next turn but still being
1162s annoying eliminated uh limiting magoon's
1165s economy and also gets Customs houses of
1168s his own and that is going to be huge
1170s here because he's not that far away from
1171s winning this game I absolutely but in
1175s all this time that is happening looks
1177s like Sierra ever so has decided to give
1178s up on the fight for the center of the
1180s map it is actually retreated quite a bit
1182s of his Navy where they had at least a
1184s dozen units on the water it looked like
1186s they only have a few and they diverted
1187s their resources into the South the
1190s downside is is there's plenty of space
1192s and resources for magoons to be able to
1194s make more giant bushes if absolutely
1196s necessary and to gain the slight
1198s advantage of the Southern fight
1200s a hundred percent here very good
1203s analysis there uh backing up that Navy
1205s is giving a ton of map control uh to
1209s Magoon and honestly this was the
1210s scariest part of his army so playing a
1212s little more passive with that may not be
1214s the best choice here he's gonna upgrade
1217s at the cat or get some Force down to
1220s upgrade those Customs houses he's kind
1222s of falling back with his military and
1224s attacking with these Riders as well
1227s that's right uh let's take a look at one
1230s important factor it looks like hollow's
1233s uh senior Evan sews Giants are actually
1236s gone he had three Giants on the water
1239s and I can't actually see them anymore it
1241s looks like they're all gone at this
1242s current moment
1244s yeah all all of those ships are
1247s eliminated and probably some better
1249s micro there but uh you know keeping
1251s using a range of the ships to keep them
1253s off the coast I think he was trying to
1254s be aggressive to capture that Center
1256s Village but now he has no scary ships
1258s all of these are pretty low HP ships now
1261s yeah all that aggressive play for the
1263s center looks like that uh Magoon was
1267s able to chase him off and is able to
1269s start fighting back
1272s a hundred percent and as we see he's
1276s gonna upgrade take another Park uh he's
1278s over 9 000 now so it's very very close
1281s to winning this game uh upgrading
1283s getting enough
1284s another Park and meanwhile on the other
1288s side of the map Magoon is the big push
1292s he had a he had a hundred points
1297s and just like that the game is over
1300s mcgoon with with senior episode so close
1303s to winning this game over 9 000 but
1306s mcgoon in that last turn uses the
1309s monument uses the big push to upgrade
1312s and get a park and just like that he's
1314s over 10 000 points and ggs and wins the
1317s game
1318s that was quite a turnaround he had to
1323s get over 3 000 points but he saved up
1325s his Stars got over a hundred and was
1328s able to get the trade Monument which not
1331s only is able to give him some more
1332s population to level up a city for for
1335s another part but it also gives him the
1338s points from the monument that's over 500
1341s points that's 550 points right there
1343s that's now that's actually there's still
1346s more you gotta include the three from
1347s the Pops
1348s that was a crazy turnaround just when it
1351s looked like senior Evans so had the game
1353s in his grips he was up for most of the
1356s game he had just got to over what 95
1360s yeah over he was at almost 9 500 points
1363s and mcgoon uses that population
1365s Advantage uses the monument and he goes
1369s and just snatches the game and steals it
1371s here in Turner 22.
1373s that's correct let's take a look at
1376s magoon's Tech treat before the the start
1378s of his turn versus after his turn
1381s what a big push he made by picking up
1384s all those texts so right here you can
1386s see there's a lot of technology that can
1388s still be picked up and Magoon has 113
1391s Stars worth of uh Stars just available
1395s to be spending
1397s that's 2 500 points that they're gonna
1400s have to acquire how many texts is that
1402s gonna have to be
1403s man let's uh let's take a look and now
1406s at the tech street at the end of this
1407s turn and
1414s one all right math
1419s uh navs
1421s meditation philosophy that's five unless
1425s I miss Counting
1427s Technologies in a single turn
1432s yeah yeah I think you're right I believe
1435s that is fat uh five Technologies uh it's
1438s the reason why we're commentators we are
1439s not math experts so I'm sure somebody
1441s will will have the exact calculation in
1444s the uh comments but what an amazing turn
1447s he banked up those Stars he had over a
1449s hundred stars on the last turn grabs all
1452s of those texts to get uh his points up
1455s and I'm still in shock here
1459s was I was not expecting that looks like
1461s Magoon who is backpedaling right from
1464s the mid game throughout the entire thing
1466s losing the early baby race
1469s is able to turn the game around defend
1472s his cities and
1475s just slow and steady wins the race yeah
1478s I think banking those Stars towards the
1481s middle of the game was uh such a
1482s brilliant move he knew it was a glory
1485s game mode he knew he had some work to do
1487s he knew so he kind of just played
1489s defensive made sure he didn't get
1490s overrun defended that center city with
1493s the push outs and with his units he was
1496s able to destroy those big boy ships in
1498s the center of the map and save save the
1500s Stars to make multiple amazing upgrades
1502s to win the game
1504s absolutely all those defensive plays
1506s were very beautifully executed and it
1509s led to such a fantastic game that we all
1511s got to witness
1513s man so great great Finals game here for
1517s the polytopia luxador tribe Moon of May
1520s 2023 child's polytopia for sponsoring
1524s this tournament uh highlighting some of
1526s the players and allowing us to
1527s commentate was grateful for that and I'm
1530s the big bear and I'm Toby and thank you
1532s and we will see you in the next video