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59s	oh
64s	hello
65s	everyone um welcome to the polyopia
69s	official Channel my name is Adam uh you
71s	might know me from poly champs as G AO
74s	um and today um our guests are Meister
78s	Lampe and Yuko hi guys welcome to the
82s	stream hi
84s	hi how is it going how are you feeling
87s	today yeah quite a good day for me today
92s	actually
94s	ended fule a little about playing with 2
98s	a
101s	polium to
104s	be okay um so uh go ahead and introduce
109s	yourselves a bit maybe starting from
112s	Yuko uh because it's uh it's your first
116s	time on the channel yeah master has been
119s	here and hi Yuko I'm mostly known on the
123s	poly Champion
124s	servers and I've been playing polyopia
127s	for around eight months I think
132s	and well and that's all I
136s	think I'm Italian also okay M Lampe go
142s	ahead yeah hi everyone I'm M lamp um I
146s	first played polyopia in 2018 then I
149s	took a break break and now I've been
151s	playing polyopia at the highest level
154s	for about half a year and po Champions
157s	as well as some challeng polium
160s	tournaments yeah my lamp is very
163s	experienced he's a he's a former bowet
166s	champion and uh have you won polym yet
169s	or or not not yet I don't I won a couple
173s	of the daily brackets but I never
176s	participated in the season finals okay
180s	okay
182s	um I uh you probably already know the
186s	Aquarian rework is going to be released
189s	in in a few days uh the premiere is on
192s	August 15 uh are you excited have you
194s	played the
195s	beta um maybe share share your thoughts
199s	on on on the
201s	aquarium Yeah we actually we have
203s	actually play each other so I believe in
207s	the second patch not the latest one
211s	uh but there were just a few Nerfs on
213s	the last one I'm pretty excited of the
218s	new units especially the
221s	Sharks Al they got a Nerf and they are
224s	now only 10
227s	XP I believe they fixed the the Y
231s	bellies or did they change the name
235s	actually uh yeah they they changed from
237s	yell belly to jelly so now
242s	I I still like to call them yelly
244s	bellies actually and I think yeah I'm
247s	I'm with you I I don't know why why this
249s	Chang they I'm most excited for I think
253s	because M they seem like something new
258s	um and besides that um I also think that
262s	the tridion rework is very interesting
265s	mhm um because like before tradtions
269s	tended to create
270s	very staly situations and now explain
275s	explain why because not everyone
277s	previously tridion had
280s	Escape um three attack and one defense
284s	now they have 2.5 attack and they lost
289s	Escape but instead they got um the
292s	persist perk because this perk is what
295s	the Knight has so it works similarly to
299s	a knight but the tridion is still a
301s	range unit so if you kill a unit with
305s	the tridion it doesn't actually move
307s	there but you get another attack from
309s	the same position where you're at right
311s	now exactly yeah you need some support
314s	since they decrease the attack and also
318s	obviously because water units have a lot
321s	of
322s	HP uh cannot get massive chains with
327s	tensions but it's hard to avoid tridion
331s	chains because they are a range unit
334s	after all so even if your weak units
337s	don't stand next to each other the
339s	renion can just shoot to the left once
341s	and then to the
342s	right yeah there going to be a lot
345s	pretty
348s	devastating but in general do you uh are
350s	you uh happy about this uh this rework
354s	or did you like the previous Aquarian
356s	more uh what do you what do you think
360s	about the the whole
362s	change I believe the previous aquarium
365s	was a bit overpowered especially on Ary
369s	archipelago
370s	um but yeah but I have a bit of mixed
375s	feelings about the new rework because
378s	they got a bit of a Nerf early game but
382s	they also have some really strong um
386s	options like hles and M that obviously
390s	the persist is are really interesting
393s	mechanic on the
396s	Tren I think there be interesting to
398s	play for sure MH and you my L yeah I'm a
404s	little worried that some units um might
408s	just not be as good as other units um
412s	specifically the
414s	sharks um I think they're they're
417s	definitely going to be interesting but
419s	they cost eight
421s	stars and they have three attack two
424s	defense and 10
426s	HP
427s	so they are not very cost efficient and
431s	aquarium's economy just isn't that
434s	strong and I think for example the
437s	amphibian might just always be a better
440s	alternative or just making a bunch of
442s	Warriors you can have four Warriors or
445s	one shark four Warriors obviously is
447s	more combat power yeah
451s	okay so let's see how that how that goes
454s	uh uh like I said uh the release will be
458s	uh on August 15 so stay
462s	tuned um before we start a few
465s	organizational notes so first uh because
469s	it's it's a zasi polium highlight live
473s	we um we'll review all the games that
476s	were uh that we picked to to show you
479s	and one once we finish uh there will be
482s	an
483s	opportunity uh for the audience to ask
486s	questions about the games that they
489s	played or if you have any questions
492s	there with some aspects of the game that
494s	you are struggling with so um in a
497s	minute I will uh post a link uh to a
500s	form in the comments so the question
503s	submitted in the form we'll have uh
506s	priority over those asking and asking in
509s	in in the chat
510s	so go ahead and ask us anything about uh
514s	about
516s	polyopia okay uh I think we're ready so
519s	let's let's dive in and see what
520s	happened this month in in
530s	polium so me Lampe you are in the
536s	lead I'm not muted anymore right
540s	no no
541s	no no everyone can hear you loud and
545s	clear yeah and they can see your screen
548s	play right now
550s	mhm
555s	um
557s	okay you're
561s	in okay so this is sber versus Ana I
567s	believe um yeah here we got um Amber
570s	Road in Orange against anva in lime and
574s	they're both playing asasi on small
582s	continents um yes so first of all if we
586s	take a look at the
587s	spawns um Ember Road has a lighthouse
590s	spawn while Amber does
593s	not resources seem quite similar
600s	yeah I like that spaes are always good
602s	with thei because you get the easy
604s	Capital upgrade to level
607s	three yeah we also see the standard
610s	workship opening for both
621s	players upgrade the capital yeah we lost
624s	you my lamp for for a
627s	second oh um did my sentence get cut off
631s	now it's fine but like uh okay mhm so
634s	what I meant to say is that um yeah
638s	emerod because emerod because emro got a
642s	lighthouse
643s	spawn um they are able to go back for
647s	the lighthous and turn two to upgrade
649s	Capital already
653s	mhm yeah that's pretty lucky for them
655s	and also their second City seems to have
657s	really good resources like for five
661s	yeah but especially for Ember Ro we got
663s	a lot of
668s	farms um now here we see a little bit of
671s	a
672s	difference
673s	am went for two workshops while ana um
679s	picked up riding into Rider instead of
682s	upgrading the Second City right away
699s	okay what kind of map is that is it
701s	continents or or lakes yeah it's a
702s	continents continents okay mhm yeah am
707s	finds two ruins Al to one is on the
709s	mountains that's going to be very
711s	important of this game yeah but one ruin
714s	is also right next to the lighthouse and
716s	I think where Lighthouse are that's
719s	where lucky for
721s	you um so let's disable Shar fog because
726s	now it um plays the more important role
729s	so what happens here is um I don't
732s	necessarily agree with this move so um
736s	yeah me neither emo decided to pick up
739s	climbing here but
742s	personally um if I would see the
745s	situation um you definitely have to
747s	think about construction because if you
750s	look at the Second City from Emma road
753s	you can see that um the the four farms
757s	and then a windmill placed on top of a
760s	fruit um they would just be able to pop
762s	a giant in that City and that's
766s	generally a pretty good wind
768s	condition yeah so this climbing was was
771s	kind of like a waste of of
773s	resources yeah he also doesn't have
776s	really Aral to go climbing like the does
779s	it have any certainty in that they meet
782s	the opponent with that and doesn't have
784s	a ruin like H does
790s	so they at least reveal a city and the
793s	ruins so it's not that bad and it makes
796s	scouting easier I
798s	guess yeah I mean that's also um orange
802s	is Amber Road and lime is UN
816s	and the gets climbing for the
822s	too yeah
824s	exactly and also decides to pick up
826s	climbing but in this case to pick up the
832s	ruin and we see a port for Amber Road
839s	so Mystic Creator are you asking who is
842s	uh in the game Could you um show them
845s	yeah the game already mentioned it
849s	orange is ambero and lime is Ana okay
860s	mhm okay so now we see anas ruins and
864s	the first one actually is the meditation
867s	ruin okay mhm
871s	definitely not what you're hoping for
872s	but always risk you're running into when
874s	you research climbing and then pick up
876s	ruin the second one is an Explorer which
880s	well it
881s	reveals that he has second continent
884s	nearby which is nice
886s	but it's not the most useful ruin
889s	because he would probably prefer
891s	something that accelerates his
894s	economy yeah since it doesn't have the
897s	resources that um
900s	that player has on the Second
903s	City need s to get the iso
908s	going but this
915s	fight yeah Ember Road's economy is very
918s	strong here we already at 15 Stars per
922s	turn
923s	at yeah that's
926s	Workshop that's what strong
931s	like Ana actually goes for mining here
933s	which isn't what you typically see
935s	because he sees that his continent is
937s	connected he decides to go for an
939s	Explorer M and it also gets a noral
943s	lighthouse which is very good that's a
947s	bit unusual with continents because
949s	usually it's it's uh so the river is is
952s	at least you know like one tire wide and
955s	here it's we have like those small Pawns
958s	in the in the in the East instead of
961s	like a you know full
963s	River so it can actually there is a
965s	connection mhm it's actually not that
968s	uncommon that the river has some points
971s	where you can even Traverse it without a
973s	bridge diagonally
975s	mhm yeah on small Maps it happens quite
979s	often yeah near the orange The Bu
983s	decides to go for uh humming which I
987s	thought was interesting in this position
990s	because I mean it see there's a big lake
993s	in the or big ocean in the
998s	west and he can't really get there
1001s	without sailing and go explore for got
1005s	and orange got aquaculture from a ruin
1007s	if you meant that oh okay okay then I
1010s	didn't notice that he B that not very
1015s	useful am gets giant in turn eight right
1018s	at the coast right next to the opponent
1021s	and then a second I no not quite a
1024s	second shine yet but pretty
1030s	close gets his own
1034s	[Music]
1040s	giant here's the second
1044s	Giant and Emeral okay this is something
1048s	um I want to hide
1050s	so ambero is upgrading this ra to
1054s	ramama and so what Amo could just do is
1059s	hitting the rider um at the city the
1061s	ramama would T would take basically no
1064s	damage while the rider almost
1066s	dies but
1068s	instead they move for ramama only over
1071s	here
1073s	so so a warrior rmer that doesn't Siege
1078s	a city with a
1080s	the rder would go down to one HP and I
1083s	think RMA only takes one damage so
1086s	definitely miss opportunity here yeah
1089s	especially since he can try to get the
1091s	ruin there but this way the opponent can
1095s	deny with the rer yeah you're also about
1097s	to see why this
1103s	matters but I guess technically Ena
1106s	could have denied the ruin without
1109s	doesn't have the vision there but
1112s	now like in before the warrior and the
1115s	ramama could have taken out the warrior
1117s	now but that's no longer the case but it
1119s	is the case
1121s	but it's basically missed
1126s	opportunity to kill or to basically take
1129s	out one
1134s	Rider okay so orange gets more Vision
1137s	mhm
1140s	yeah the Jagger is also moving in
1143s	towards the city of Ana pretty
1149s	threatening and he gets
1156s	Defenders actually picks upy to make a
1158s	giant here yeah this is really unusual
1162s	fori to get
1164s	me m yeah but he has two two You Know M
1168s	and uh and for
1172s	spot mhm yeah that's a really
1176s	strange but either way that that's not
1180s	something you see often on the body um
1183s	there's something that's worth looking
1185s	at here like um Ember instead of going
1189s	aggressive with Juggernaut decides to
1191s	just go back on onto their
1197s	continent I'm not sure if that was
1199s	intentional but yeah maybe a missclick
1202s	because I I don't see any any reason to
1205s	to do that yeah think Landing next to
1208s	City would probably just be
1212s	better get the damage from the
1217s	[Music]
1220s	splash yeah more Scouts for em Road
1225s	um and this is a city in the water
1230s	now some combat um at the next yeah here
1235s	over here happening um yeah an just got
1239s	Archer if you noticed for the oh yeah he
1243s	picked up one Archer so that's how anma
1246s	thinks that he's going to deal with all
1248s	the Defenders and Giants like
1252s	um archers are obviously great against
1256s	everything um his opponent has here
1259s	right we see um what do we see Defenders
1264s	Warriors
1266s	archers and we also saw
1268s	ramas and well he got hit by two Scouts
1273s	and that's those are basically all units
1276s	and archers are good
1278s	against yeah archers are really good at
1281s	defending from the land to
1284s	water and they are a very cheap defense
1288s	is while
1289s	water units are
1292s	costly uh Defender unit on the water is
1295s	eight Stars three for the defender and
1298s	five for theg grade so while an Archer
1302s	is only three
1303s	stars so that's so obviously helps
1306s	getting a lot of value from The
1309s	Archers yeah basically like Naval units
1312s	generally always are less cost efficient
1315s	than land units so if you can use land
1317s	units against Naval units it's almost
1319s	always going to be good
1322s	yeah and what happens here um is I'm not
1326s	sure if this is a good decision um
1328s	ambero despite having complete nav
1332s	control um decides to land the Scout on
1335s	the neutral Village instead of just
1337s	moving a raft over there which would
1339s	take a little longer but you're losing
1341s	the five stars you spend on upgrading
1343s	the
1347s	scull because I strong but that's just a
1350s	waste of
1351s	stars that side see the first continent
1354s	special bridges yeah Brides yeah first
1358s	Bridge go
1361s	Bridges we see a lot of bridges today I
1369s	[Music]
1371s	think this is actually a strange River
1373s	cuz being diagonal you can get many rges
1378s	here yeah I'm Ro now picked up
1380s	navigation and turned that draft into a
1383s	bomber which deals some decent Splash
1387s	damage but there is this problem that uh
1391s	well this giant is basically blocking
1392s	access to everything it's just getting
1394s	free value standing on the bridge now
1396s	and something else happened emo left the
1400s	city open and now Ena builds the bridge
1405s	and gets another rer this way yeah first
1407s	Siege yeah nice
1410s	play and now we starting to see the
1414s	problem with amero's unit
1417s	composition like we have some Navy okay
1420s	but on land it's just it's just this one
1424s	Warrior a couple Defenders and a giant
1427s	but how do you kill this
1429s	Rider yeah you need the riders or
1432s	archers to
1433s	play Defender is not going to attack the
1436s	opponent yeah you need to
1439s	[Music]
1441s	um I don't think they can pop Giant and
1443s	the problem is that the warrior and the
1446s	defender would only get the rider down
1448s	to one HP so yeah The Siege is going to
1455s	stick yeah that's a massive misplay
1459s	now and yeah over and well I think just
1466s	keeps on happening so what em
1470s	here is landing this Defender Scout over
1473s	here so that's just another five stars
1477s	and you now okay you got a Defender is
1479s	sitting next to the city next to your
1481s	opponent but the the Scout could also
1484s	just permanently be harassing andas
1487s	units M yeah also could have gotten the
1491s	starfish
1496s	um yeah here Ena just takes the free hit
1499s	on the Scout with the
1507s	rider and they get this last Village in
1509s	the in the west so the green green
1512s	player yeah that's the reward for going
1514s	into the ocean but it could be bigger of
1518s	course yeah only one Village isn't that
1521s	great it's good
1525s	but and we we actually have capture on
1528s	the Villages and I believe it gets
1531s	likeed house yes so that's an extra
1534s	Monument there
1538s	mhm I of God of God
1541s	now and here we nicely see the
1544s	combination of riders and archers which
1546s	I believe is one of the strongest combos
1548s	in the game mhm take out the defender
1551s	and The Siege um enva is just able to
1555s	live with the Gate of power and the eye
1557s	of God just got from getting all
1560s	lighthouses yeah so two monuments it's
1563s	it's it's a giant mhm
1566s	[Music]
1567s	yeah now over here there is this 9 HP
1571s	Defender
1573s	raft emero decides to spend 15 stars on
1577s	upgrading the draft to take out this one
1579s	Warrior and dealing a little bit of
1581s	Splash damage to three arri
1584s	units yeah that's just going to die
1586s	unfortunately
1589s	and what also happened this turn again
1591s	was
1592s	um yeah another Defender Scout got
1595s	landed over here another minus five
1598s	stars like it's really starting to add
1601s	up and now Ena can just take out the
1603s	bomber with two Ares so that was a big
1607s	loss for emro of
1615s	course andas economy is also very strong
1619s	now like he's sitting at 30 Stars per
1621s	turn Amber Road who had the economy lead
1624s	basically the whole game down to 21 spt
1627s	now yeah they also on Seven Cities
1630s	versus four so obviously Amber Road
1633s	needs to find something right now
1636s	or just going to get worse for
1642s	here yeah and just nicely makes use of
1646s	riders and archers to deal with whatever
1649s	emo send this
1656s	way okay so the green gets uh gets
1658s	fishing
1660s	finally yeah we finally got a port for
1663s	an it's only turn
1665s	19 okay yeah EMP has the advantage that
1669s	he has this River where he can just turn
1672s	about uh put raft in the water and not
1675s	being punished for that even if it
1677s	didn't go for water at the start cuz
1681s	it's just so defended there in the
1685s	back yeah if like especially if there
1688s	are these long rivers where you can just
1691s	walk across or you can build Bridges to
1693s	walk across it's often better to not
1695s	even go onto the water at all because
1697s	that makes your land Comet a lot
1700s	stronger because you didn't spend the
1701s	stars on the
1703s	water yeah and as we said water is
1706s	always expensive to explore
1709s	and now we're about to see the game
1712s	winning play for
1714s	ana um ana has a giant here and a
1717s	swordsman here now The Swordsman can't
1720s	move two tires but um places a road here
1725s	roads in the swordsman and this way the
1728s	giant can kill the defender and Emma
1731s	road decides but the game is over
1735s	mhm yeah that's very interesting mhm
1740s	that they managed to to win a game with
1743s	so much uh you know water on this map
1747s	without actually creating any uh any
1750s	Naval
1751s	units they got a bit lucky with the
1755s	connection to the third continent
1756s	obviously but yeah that was well played
1760s	so what would you say what was the the
1762s	breaking point of this game uh how would
1765s	you summarize the uh this this Clash
1770s	I believe the fact that Ana went for L
1774s	and got the cheaper options eventually
1777s	add up obviously having more cities you
1780s	can just walk to and help them
1783s	but at the end of the day the land units
1787s	just were
1788s	better in this
1792s	position M so I would say um the main
1796s	problem was that em was afraid to force
1800s	the advantage they had onto Ana like um
1804s	emmer right here at 20 Stars per turn
1808s	Anda four stars per turn less and it's
1811s	been like that almost every single turn
1813s	that that's just adding up over time and
1816s	it can snowball even further especially
1818s	if you're forcing your advantage onto
1820s	your
1822s	opponent and that's just something I
1824s	didn't see here like for example the
1827s	Juggernaut here
1829s	um didn't end up getting landed to
1831s	pressure
1833s	ana um when these other instances where
1838s	we saw like a lot of stars thrown away
1843s	um on things that didn't actually end up
1845s	working out I think it's just a
1848s	combination um of all these factors so
1853s	like a chain CH chain of bad decisions
1857s	M yeah basically Ana spent his Stars
1860s	more efficiently and emro was afraid to
1863s	attack when they had the
1866s	advantage mhm okay so let's go to the to
1871s	the next
1877s	game
1883s	um so who do we have
1886s	here okay
1897s	so and what kind of
1900s	map it seems like
1902s	drylands and we have vs versus Master
1906s	lamp Master being in the South with the
1912s	uh green blue what what color is that um
1917s	like
1921s	okay while is in the north with the
1927s	standardi yeah so we got war against me
1931s	here and it's Dryland right yep it's
1935s	small Dr Islands okay yeah
1938s	mhm and WS is orange and M is turkeys
1941s	exactly
1944s	mhm now if you look at the spawns uh my
1947s	spawn looks nicer I got a lighthouse and
1950s	I got five farms in the capital which
1953s	allows me to make a giant with the
1955s	lighthouse because you need 11
1957s	population in total if you take
1959s	population
1960s	growth yeah you don't even need the
1963s	different Tech to get the giant that's
1965s	really
1970s	good yeah um what's happened in the
1974s	beginning of the game is basically
1978s	um we both missed getting um a second
1982s	City immediately like it's a bit further
1986s	away from the capital than usual mhm
1990s	they did not have very good uh resource
1993s	indicators so like they couldn't save
1995s	from like right over B where where the
1999s	where the village is there are no
2001s	resource indicators is because there
2003s	simply aren't any Villages
2005s	nearby so yeah so they were like uh
2009s	so the map is very much in in your
2012s	advantage
2014s	L yeah so far seems in my favor but Wars
2019s	is getting me Center which is a big
2020s	advantage and he's also playing first
2023s	which is another very significant
2029s	Advantage now he also takes riding and
2033s	gets the
2034s	rider um I already got a rider previous
2039s	turn and I take an
2043s	Explorer um the Explorer doesn't re real
2046s	that much but at least I know that Wars
2049s	is in the center which isn't very good
2052s	news for me because that means he's
2054s	probably going to get more cities than
2058s	me so I'm considering um how I can fight
2062s	that I'm definitely thinking about um
2065s	making a giant soon
2071s	yeah for sure a giant rush in the center
2073s	would put a lot of pressure on vs and
2077s	but it does get Vision on the capital so
2080s	he know he know is it's coming when we
2083s	get it yeah and crucially he also
2084s	reveals the S Lighthouse which would be
2087s	basically impossible to get
2089s	otherwise yeah that allows to upgrade
2092s	the capital for
2095s	Wars and yeah exactly
2102s	um I am just saving um the N Stars I
2106s	have here because I want to make a giant
2109s	the following turn and if you add up
2112s	Seven Stars to the nine then you end up
2114s	at 16 I need 15 stars and though for one
2117s	star I cannot buy
2120s	anything and your second city is much
2122s	worse than the first
2124s	one so the mixed mixed resources
2128s	yeah only one Farm there that's not
2131s	really great now this Explorer not very
2134s	good for up going back yeah yeah at
2138s	least it gets the lighthouse but yeah
2140s	not very
2142s	great
2144s	get Giant in turn six very
2150s	early yeah that's a bu for you yeah they
2154s	get a lot of giant potential in the
2156s	early game
2164s	and you that City but you can why get
2168s	thater for me um gives some but still
2174s	doesn't reveal like the Deep area
2177s	and for me like I'm seeing this area
2182s	over here and I'm not very happy that
2185s	there are like five forests uh mhm just
2189s	going here in the line because
2193s	that's my
2195s	riders that
2198s	area especially if I want to take a
2200s	fight around the ruin or neutral Village
2204s	I see are like a lot of resources that
2207s	are hard for me to
2215s	contest yeah get Vision on
2218s	City there yeah takes the
2224s	V and does he have Vision to kill your
2227s	Rider on the village there he does not
2230s	have Vision there and he ends up getting
2232s	free spirit from a ruin that's very
2237s	lucky you would Sayes a way to it does
2240s	need a way to deal with your giant right
2242s	now so maybe F spe would have better
2245s	later
2249s	wait how does free spirit help him get a
2252s	giant yeah that's probably better to get
2255s	later in the game right now something
2258s	like construction
2259s	or yeah like no construction in it
2262s	Knights can be good later stages of the
2265s	game but like in early game free spirit
2267s	is not a very useful technology yeah
2269s	it's not going to be the giant midnight
2271s	here
2281s	so what does the city count it's four
2283s	against three right um yeah we have four
2289s	cities for Wars against three cities for
2291s	me and Wars is on Fifth but I'm getting
2296s	my um fourth city right now M and I'm
2302s	sieging his Central City with a warrior
2304s	thanks to me picking up roads and now
2307s	War actually has a
2309s	problem
2311s	um he did not save enough stars to pick
2314s	up
2315s	roads oh cu the forest block him yeah
2319s	yeah and this Rider is blocked by Forest
2321s	so he can actually un Siege this which
2323s	means be able to steal that City so you
2327s	Siege with a with a veteran right yeah
2331s	mhm nice this is going to be a really
2334s	good Advantage for you but he got this
2337s	veteran Sportsman ruin in the vest which
2340s	can be
2344s	annoying he takes Flora here um
2350s	wow miss the lighthouse getting that
2352s	Lighthouse that's a bummer yeah he's
2355s	trying to get the monument since you can
2357s	get the West Lighthouse easily and he
2359s	already has the other
2363s	two yeah I'm trying to stabilize my
2366s	position here ALS taking another
2368s	Explorer so I
2371s	don't
2374s	like but
2377s	also barely don't get Vision onto this
2380s	city over here we have to watch we
2383s	explore
2384s	again but I guess you you also wanted
2387s	the lighthouse right not only the V yeah
2389s	I also want the normal Lighthouse but I
2392s	also want information on like which
2394s	units he's making and I just barely Miss
2397s	a
2406s	man cuz he's he's very close to getting
2409s	the eye of God and you are like not
2411s	going not going to get
2413s	any eye of God this this uh in this game
2418s	right it's like this this Lighthouse
2420s	behind his cap was yeah it's really
2423s	helpful for him like he needed like that
2427s	IE of God
2428s	very good for him yeah I would i' been
2432s	able to play this game without I'm
2434s	getting Eastern lious as well now now
2436s	that I still have the ability to get it
2439s	but well I earlier barely missed the
2441s	normal lious so no I have got for me
2445s	m and now V does have two Giants
2449s	going
2452s	yeah but still he still doesn't have
2456s	roads or does he no he do
2460s	[Music]
2461s	not okay so so those giants will be slow
2464s	in getting to Central City yeah now is a
2469s	key turn
2472s	so um I'm counting my Riders
2476s	here and I'm thinking about okay how
2479s	many targets can I hit with those Riders
2482s	I have like how many attacks 1 2 3 4 5 6
2486s	7 8 nine
2489s	10 and how many hits do I need to kill
2492s	these
2493s	units
2495s	um I need two for this Warrior and two
2499s	for the rider here three for the warrior
2503s	here and then if I use um my Riders
2507s	afterwards um to block his Riders then
2511s	the veteran swordsman won't be enough to
2513s	un Siege the city if I Siege of a
2515s	warrior yeah see what ends up
2519s	happening you missed the
2521s	road
2523s	[Music]
2524s	like okay basically what ended up
2527s	happening I didn't carefully plan my
2530s	turn and now I ended up at this
2532s	situation because it's obviously a life
2534s	game we're both under time pressure M
2538s	yeah and yeah I would need two more
2541s	roads to actually bring in this R you
2543s	have five stars yeah I would have had to
2545s	place roads a bit differently
2548s	which um yeah definitely was not optimal
2551s	because I invested a lot into getting
2553s	The Siege I think I probably would have
2555s	won the game if it worked out but it did
2558s	not work
2561s	out yeah that I would still have the
2564s	opportunity to pull off Siege with one
2567s	road I just noticed I'm not sure if I
2569s	just didn't see it if I place the road
2572s	on the farm yeah that's
2575s	three I don't know could have still
2578s	maybe mhm yeah game
2582s	M so
2586s	yeah and I also didn't end up moving my
2589s	units down here because I ran out of
2592s	time yeah di life games is
2596s	really yeah and War get
2600s	forestry takes a city wall here which is
2603s	going to make it significantly harder
2604s	for me to attack that City
2610s	so how many warriors to to uh Siege a
2614s	warrior in in the world
2616s	city um you need at least four but they
2621s	can't be damaged too much M okay so four
2625s	10 HP Wars yeah I think some of them can
2628s	like a little bit of hit points but not
2631s	a
2636s	lot yeah I'm finally connecting my
2638s	cities to the capital and get another
2640s	giant this way but the problem once
2642s	again is the giant is so far away from
2645s	the action and vs is crashing with
2647s	center with two giants I have only one
2649s	giant to defend it's definitely not
2651s	going to be
2661s	easy your giant is
2664s	De and gets the Gate of power and takes
2667s	for growth what does this B growth mean
2670s	now this Forest line down here is going
2674s	to make it even harder for me to attack
2676s	the city yeah like an extra wall mhm
2679s	yeah yeah before I used the road on this
2681s	Forest to get past it but that's no
2684s	longer an option as is territory now
2688s	yeah so this is a good example of an
2690s	offensive uh border growth nice
2694s	play yeah and also is going to get the
2697s	giant there with forest and um what also
2700s	ended up happening
2702s	was um he cut my road connection to this
2706s	city here which caused me to lose an
2709s	additional two stars this
2713s	turn yeah so you have a lot of pressure
2716s	to deal with three Giants although one
2718s	is at 12 hp that's still yeah like I
2722s	have City more but my cities are so much
2724s	less
2725s	developed fre turn frear per turn two
2729s	and
2730s	three and we're about to see his cities
2734s	are looking like right now but like we
2737s	got got six five and three on the other
2740s	cities on the capital like he's making
2742s	as much money as me but the FL cities
2748s	and therefore also lower Tech cost and
2750s	he also
2751s	has well three Giants compared to one
2754s	for me right now
2761s	and finally night
2766s	yeah yeah so this
2770s	spirites get next he's finally getting
2773s	chivalry and a knight which is very good
2776s	against what I have here a lot of riders
2779s	Riders like to Bunch up on the roads
2781s	because that's how you use them most
2783s	effectively if you have to space them
2785s	out they get a lot less effective
2790s	I am thinking how do I deal with a giant
2792s	I of course see that
2793s	night and so I figure life gets easier
2797s	if I just suicide a bunch of riders into
2799s	that night as otherwise avoiding night
2802s	chains is going to be even harder and I
2804s	have to get rid of those giants anyways
2807s	mhm like previously I thought well I
2811s	could go archery to get rid of these
2813s	giants that are pressuring me but now I
2816s	have a problem
2819s	yeah
2821s	AR and while he has Knights and we're
2824s	playing a live game well I don't have
2827s	that much time to plan the perfect
2829s	positioning of my
2830s	units
2832s	um yeah um playing Riders and archers
2836s	against Knights is probably almost
2840s	impossible yeah I'm going to make
2842s	mistake eventually and just instantly
2844s	lose the game mhm yeah yeah
2848s	a long Knight chain and just die yeah I
2852s	avoided the night chain for now but now
2854s	the Knight is in a much more threatening
2856s	position but Knight can reach
2858s	more yeah and know needs did he finally
2861s	get roads or or not he does not have
2864s	roads yet okay I decide um because he
2867s	went for Knights and need like some kind
2870s	of um army
2873s	composition that is like decent against
2875s	what he has he has rers and knights and
2878s	he also got both
2879s	Giants Defenders are not that good
2882s	against the Giants but really good
2884s	against Riders and
2886s	kns um and yeah I'm also thinking that I
2890s	need an army composition that is not
2891s	that hard to play because I've been
2894s	running out of time like every single
2896s	turn so yeah it's been
2899s	tough yeah do you move the giant no
2904s	okay oh it doesn't get Road okay because
2908s	that's
2909s	okay yeah he's in range because Riles
2913s	mhm yes yeah I was wondering if if he
2915s	could get the super chain here but
2918s	that's a veteran so yeah double siege
2921s	for Wars here M also taking out a bunch
2925s	of units over
2927s	here
2929s	now I think I can barely still live this
2932s	Siege but afterwards there another giant
2936s	with 35 HP standing next to my city
2940s	so yeah going to be tough to defend
2945s	then and if you take a look at how I
2947s	positioned my
2952s	Riders yeah it's not pretty but I don't
2956s	think that actually was the worst one
2957s	because also this is much
2963s	worse yeah yeah at this point the game
2966s	is Just over he has
2970s	Knights I have Defenders but I'm losing
2973s	so much I think I'm losing I think I
2977s	wouldn't be able to uneg either of these
2978s	cities so yeah so GG yeah
2984s	that's so tell us M lump is there
2987s	anything you think you could have done
2991s	differently uh in
2993s	hindsight well I mean it's pretty simple
2998s	um the key was turn
3001s	12 yeah
3003s	the the RO there the work
3007s	out like um if I decide to kill this
3011s	Rider instead or like figure out how to
3014s	do it in the haste
3016s	mhm
3018s	um and I would be able to have like rer
3021s	blocking here rder blocking
3024s	there and then we figh us um cannot
3028s	reach
3031s	anymore and let's go back actually that
3034s	Warrior would survive if I did that um
3037s	but that Warrior is z of control by the
3039s	giant anyways so that Warrior cannot
3042s	help defending that
3045s	City yeah you just needed that last road
3049s	to place the last load in the on the
3051s	farm there in the center city yeah or
3054s	use r as different order beforehand to
3057s	need less roads to pull that off over
3060s	all yeah that's unfortunate but
3063s	like optimization I could have done
3068s	here but aren't you afraid that with
3071s	those six cities uh and your other
3073s	cities not being you know um very high
3077s	level uh obviously your costs your Tech
3080s	cost would go up
3083s	and you know worse heads still some some
3089s	fire power
3091s	so yeah so what actually happens if I
3094s	get six cities this but if I connect all
3097s	my cities with roads I get access to the
3100s	Grand Bazar oh okay yeah mhm which would
3103s	probably help me to make another giant
3105s	somewhere mhm take a look at my um
3111s	position yeah for example um
3115s	Center um
3118s	Farm free fruits and um Grand Bazar
3122s	which just get giant here
3125s	mhm so I think if I got that city um it
3129s	would have been pretty much impossible
3131s	for Wars to play to come back mhm okay
3135s	yeah that any any any extra thoughts
3139s	from you yeah I was saying in the west
3142s	side you you wouldn't have had the
3145s	pressure uh without the Giants so M
3149s	would have just been able to defend
3150s	there
3152s	and so yeah I think the uh free spirit R
3159s	was great for vs but yeah what really
3162s	theci side of the game was the misplay
3166s	with the roads
3169s	there and I that's all
3172s	like
3174s	Okay so let's continue to the next
3180s	game yeah I'll open the next game really
3187s	quick
3188s	um yeah and to our audience if you have
3191s	any questions uh anything you would like
3195s	our guest to uh to explain more uh just
3200s	ask in the
3202s	chat we have
3204s	a nice
3207s	yeah first let's look at the spawns and
3210s	what's what kind of map it is
3212s	and who's
3214s	playing okay oh so finally Mystic okay
3218s	Mystic your game so we can come
3222s	back he's still watching and prob seeum
3225s	is about to start in six
3228s	minutes okay that's true so the this is
3232s	a continent game I believe and they both
3234s	got
3239s	[Music]
3241s	ands we have ccud in Orange against
3245s	mytic Creator in dark
3250s	brown yeah another interesting map like
3253s	Yuki saww mentioned so a lot of
3256s	mountains not very common setup for for
3259s	zasi yes zasi has only half a mountain
3263s	raate of most
3264s	tribes yeah and also they are in the
3267s	really uh annoying position for the
3270s	north Zas because he can get he can just
3273s	go for the center and it doesn't have
3275s	great resource indicators there I was
3279s	thinking the same thing like they're
3281s	kind of annoying for both players so it
3283s	somewhat evens
3288s	OD let's see how this game
3292s	play I need to stand
3295s	obviously yeah
3297s	similar openings but now Mystic decides
3300s	to go back with a second Warrior instead
3302s	of exploring with that one
3305s	[Music]
3307s	immediately that's a really bad Second
3310s	City
3311s	though it do
3315s	water yeah so let's just a shed
3320s	for and because Mystic took the
3322s	lighthouse he got an extra star this
3324s	turn and this allows him to pick up
3326s	fishing as well as taking
3329s	explor
3332s	and okay it do go back information cave
3337s	seat now also takes an Explorer it
3340s	reveals basically the same area but
3342s	that's obviously better for
3344s	Mystic
3346s	yeah um yeah we see riding for Mystic
3349s	and port for KFC M
3352s	now let's take a look at what KFC mat
3355s	sees
3358s	um so
3359s	he sh so he sees that there is this
3362s	Shoreline over there in the Northwest
3364s	indicating that there's another
3366s	continent um right next to and that
3368s	that's a proper River not the like the
3370s	one that we had in the first game yeah
3373s	this is this is like a really
3377s	long river with a lot of bridge
3380s	possibilities like could just count
3382s	really quick how many bridges you can
3383s	build on that
3385s	River 3 four five 6 7 8 9 10 possible
3391s	bridges that can be built in this game
3394s	nice and there's technically another one
3396s	over here but I don't think and here I
3399s	going to be that's not to be used for
3403s	bu uh yeah here that's a really good map
3407s	for ride the road setup but yes so
3411s	making a port here probably not what you
3413s	want to do yeah especially since it can
3416s	upgrade the other city I believe it
3419s	doesn't have the Stars yeah exactly it
3422s	also forces him to not upgrade that City
3425s	because he spent Seven Stars in that
3429s	Port no Farm on the other on the third
3432s	City for
3434s	Mystic um that's really
3437s	unlucky yeah yeah those mountains he
3441s	has uhuh
3446s	got riding already Road C eight Stars I
3450s	think he definitely wants to build a
3451s	bridge
3453s	here
3459s	yeah okay if seat finally gets the
3462s	workshop he moves the raft over there
3465s	not the most fortunate position but I'll
3469s	say but because bad draft um actually
3472s	zone of controls Mystic from um Bridge
3476s	over with a r Warrior like he um had
3480s	saved up a bunch of stars starts with 17
3483s	Stars Road T cost eight a bridge he
3487s	would cost five so he has four stars
3490s	left then if he places a road um below
3494s	this Warrior he would be able to capture
3497s	this city as well as killing the warrior
3500s	here M um and yeah basically just
3504s	stealing that City yeah KFC what
3506s	wouldn't be able to yeah to get it back
3509s	M now he does something very similar but
3513s	he also decides to move off of that city
3516s	which I'm not sure if that actually was
3518s	a good move because yeah that's that
3521s	City seems delay delays delays City
3524s	capture
3526s	mhm yeah the problem is that if the
3528s	opponent defends there then you don't
3531s	have anything to follow up because you
3533s	didn't get the
3534s	city yeah you're just let in the nearby
3537s	City to make
3542s	reinforcements now kcat and gets an
3545s	Explorer finds out what's happening very
3548s	nice Explorer mhm yeah he sees
3551s	everything yeah and
3554s	Mystic SES this opportunity goes for a
3558s	block here which would not even have
3561s	been necessary
3563s	because
3565s	in Star Road in the Warrior but mytic is
3569s	also lacking the vision so he doesn't
3571s	know that there are no additional Riders
3579s	behind so yeah that means that Mystic is
3582s	um using the r and the warrior he used
3585s	block but he gets a city in exchange but
3588s	now we see his army number is being yeah
3591s	his position is weak so like like he has
3594s	with one Warrior here now fine taking
3597s	the city I think yeah what I'm see what
3601s	I'm seeing here is that the opponent can
3603s	actually take that City
3606s	back yeah let's see what happens
3608s	aquaculture really not very useful in
3610s	this situation but I
3614s	guess yeah so same situation so block
3618s	back but there's a crucial
3621s	difference
3623s	yes and like the two Riders back here
3626s	they can just take out the two Riders In
3628s	Front blocking and then the war Rider
3631s	can used to unse the cities so this
3633s	should be great for Mystic he's getting
3636s	three kills on two Riders and un sieging
3638s	the
3641s	city y that's really good also taking
3645s	the level three upgrade for some fre
3648s	stars and now
3651s	here moment um should you really um take
3656s	the kill with the
3658s	warrior um right
3660s	here um let's go
3664s	back yeah right here he has the
3667s	option um to hit with a warrior first
3670s	and then finish with a rider to train a
3672s	new warrior in that neutral City mhm so
3676s	it basically just means that he has more
3678s	units um
3680s	nearby and he had the Stars so it wasn't
3684s	uh you know the economy that he did not
3687s	have enough
3689s	funds but his situation is definitely
3692s	looking a lot better right now K seat
3694s	knows that he also needs the roads if he
3696s	wants to be able to fight this so now
3700s	Mystic is getting a little bit
3703s	crazy
3705s	yeah another Bridge let's look at the
3708s	situation you're starting with um 11
3715s	stars um
3717s	I don't know if he thought that he was
3718s	behind and needed a crazy play because
3720s	his opponent had a lot of score but that
3723s	mainly um was a result of um
3726s	KFC taking more explorers and getting
3730s	that aquaculture ruin
3733s	mm eight
3735s	stars for a road and a
3740s	bridge now he's down to three when he
3743s	bounces back here okay if it works out
3746s	um all nice and good but like um what is
3750s	the consequence of the
3753s	spending he can only make one new
3756s	Warrior if he didn't do this he could
3758s	have taken a workshop in this city to
3761s	get two more stars per turn make a ride
3763s	on the
3765s	capital and make another ride on this
3768s	city so he would have a lot more army on
3770s	the
3774s	field yeah it's
3777s	definitely it probably was not the best
3781s	decision and I think we are going to see
3785s	cave seat punishing him very hard for
3787s	that now now SE also builds a bridge
3792s	blocks the for waria which
3795s	means um yeah bait yeah that's a l
3810s	um let's hope could we could we go back
3813s	a bit so the did Mystic see that uh KFC
3817s	could could have buil a bridge or not
3820s	myopia client actually just crashed so
3823s	okay oh okay by so let's restart it yeah
3828s	anyway Mystic didn't actually have
3830s	Vision there I mean he did have some
3833s	Vision on the city after he moov the
3834s	warrior but how many writers were in the
3841s	F yeah so since we have some uh some
3845s	difficulties technical difficulties I
3848s	remind you that you can um submit your
3851s	questions in the Forum I will post it
3855s	again in the in the
3857s	chat so feel free to to ask us about
3862s	your games that you had and you had some
3865s	problems winning or something else uh in
3870s	the game is not
3872s	clear
3874s	and yeah so those who will submit
3879s	the the questions in the in the in the
3882s	for uh there will be priority for them
3886s	to um in answering okay um but we be at
3891s	I think and go back yeah so my question
3896s	was that did um Mystic have Vision on
3901s	this uh so like
3904s	uh yeah so he he could have
3908s	uh uh he could have predicted that that
3912s	that KFC could have knocked him out from
3915s	out of his village mhm yeah I believe at
3918s	this point he told the opponent didn't
3920s	have roads yet CU he didn't see them
3924s	before uh but so I thought it was safe
3927s	to get there but I don't I don't know
3931s	for sure yeah but he he sees the border
3933s	and he sees the yeah the shoreline so he
3937s	had to you know like he had to know that
3941s	that it's uh it's uh it's kind of risky
3945s	um yeah it looked it looked very very
3948s	very you know bold like M lamp said this
3953s	this bounce and yeah but he got got
3956s	punished for that yes yeah that was for
3959s	sure
3962s	gamble yeah we we see it once again and
3966s	now KFC responds he builds the bridge
3970s	use the rider to
3974s	block no mystic I'm not sure if he
3978s	should be doing
3979s	this seems that's a lot of for
3984s	bries yeah he's sping another Bridge
3987s	another wait what did he do
3991s	there
3995s	H he built a bridge more roads over here
4000s	and then he notic this that he doesn't
4002s	have enough stars to place the Third
4004s	Road okay so cannot train any new units
4008s	this turn because he spent all his stars
4010s	and you still can upgrade that level one
4013s	city to level two and take a so like it
4016s	would immediately pay off following turn
4020s	just give him even bigger Advantage the
4022s	further the game goes so definitely want
4024s	to do that as soon as
4026s	possible yeah I believe it was trying
4030s	to uh uneg this now we see the
4033s	consequence city is left
4038s	open and oh it's going to steal that
4043s	yeah he just yeah he just bounces in a
4045s	right end open
4046s	City yeah and he makes the ramama let's
4050s	see if that one is going to do anything
4052s	no mystic doesn't unit at this point now
4056s	Mystic can on Siege the city this turn
4059s	oh there yeah there's the RO he has
4063s	those crazy
4064s	roads um he goes for an
4068s	Explorer which hits the lighthouse which
4071s	is great because
4074s	now um yeah one more farm and he has a
4077s	giant mhm yeah yeah
4080s	Capital Place Park of Fortune
4084s	down and he finally gets he doesn't
4088s	take oh that one was useless oh yeah it
4092s	was useless but wa it was very risky
4096s	there I think it was a
4099s	mistake yeah maybe he miss clicked
4102s	that I think he was hoping for another
4105s	Lighthouse but I'm not sure yeah but he
4108s	he did he did not have the um what is
4112s	was it sailing right so yeah I don't I
4116s	don't see a point in you know in risking
4120s	I think he wanted it to go uh
4125s	South well um the Explorer could have
4128s	also gone towards This Ti
4133s	like goes to the F back here
4136s	or it goes um to the fog over here or to
4140s	the fog yeah because it's all of them
4142s	are three tiles
4144s	away yeah yeah so like very it's very
4148s	very risky to to get an explore in this
4151s	situation if he had sailing then yes so
4154s	obviously you know and now I want to
4156s	talk about another thing a Mystic
4159s	decides to resign
4162s	here oh but
4166s	um
4169s	I'll because he's n out of 10 right now
4173s	this city just needs um
4181s	six the monument would give him free
4184s	population and then if he um places well
4188s	if he harvests a fish here and then
4190s	faces Port he can pop a giant in that
4192s	City
4197s	so yeah I think it was a mistake for
4198s	Mystic to give up
4203s	here yeah I I lost connection for a
4206s	second what what did I
4209s	miss yeah so my Lampa was was sharing
4212s	that uh I it was it was um quite early
4217s	to for Yuko
4219s	to um to resign because he was nine out
4223s	of 10 and it was just
4226s	yeah the
4228s	monument yeah so that's support and a
4232s	fish plus the monument I get yeah like
4234s	in this turn what he could have done is
4237s	um kill take out with rider but I guess
4240s	KC would have the opportunity to bounce
4242s	that one somewhere else but regardless
4245s	of how he bounces his Riders he would be
4247s	able to get a kill on one of them if he
4249s	keeps besiege mhm then he uses the Gate
4253s	of power and the fish and a p
4256s	and here it's also one population from a
4259s	port connecting to the road Network
4262s	mhm and yeah because I I was I wasn't
4264s	sure if the city is already connected
4266s	because otherwise uh one population
4269s	would have been missing but with a with
4271s	a port yes yeah but you can see those
4273s	icons over there like if they're
4275s	connected to your Capital you have a
4276s	road icon if they're not connected you
4278s	don't have I never noticed those oh okay
4281s	yeah that's a useful tip yes that's
4284s	thank you
4288s	yeah you can always learn
4290s	something yeah yeah the capital is is is
4294s	a crown and also the the name is uh
4298s	underlined so that's
4301s	the of an city name doesn't depend on if
4305s	it's a capital or not or you mean that
4308s	it's um underlined yes yeah capital is
4311s	always
4312s	underlined yeah that's fun mhm
4318s	yeah so um so quite uh so would you
4322s	would you say that Mystic could have
4324s	still stayed in the game and um and
4328s	maybe maybe even won yeah with the giant
4331s	there the opponent doesn't really have
4334s	high level cities so he would actually
4337s	be in a pretty strong
4342s	position that's what I thought too when
4344s	I saw this I mean obviously made a bunch
4347s	of mistakes earlier already which
4352s	um well what kind of situations where
4356s	thought okay now he's throwing the
4358s	game like it started right here in turn
4362s	six when he didn't capture that City
4365s	doesn't end up getting punished for it
4368s	immediately
4370s	but I would say it's very bold not to
4374s	capture that City here
4377s	like what what could happen I
4381s	guess H maybe he was thinking that um
4386s	cave Sean could use the ra to block and
4390s	then he sing the Firepower to kill the
4393s	warrior guess it's acceptable to do this
4398s	but maybe you would prefer if a rider
4401s	bounces onto a neutral Village
4403s	afterwards
4406s	okay it wasn't possible yeah I'm not
4409s	sure I guess this was okay I don't like
4411s	the play it's very
4414s	risky and he didn't really have the
4417s	information that it would work
4422s	out yeah also he could have actually
4425s	kept the rider on the city with the with
4428s	a bounce if he place
4431s	the yeah cuz if he if he places the
4434s	bridge the road before bouncing the
4437s	rider he can move the Warrior on the
4439s	bridge kill the raft and then move the
4441s	warrior out and then bounce the
4444s	rider ah yeah you meant that he moves to
4447s	the warrior okay the warrior that
4449s	finishes off the raft could move onto
4451s	the bridge and then R hit and
4457s	then that's a good point yeah I think
4460s	that would have been a better play here
4461s	as well because then this Warrior would
4464s	be in a better position
4470s	afterwards yeah so anyway uh I think a
4472s	good summary of this game is is Mystic
4474s	was a bit playing a bit too
4478s	risky uh so if he kind of focused more
4481s	on defending the city that he got from
4485s	uh KFC mats then
4488s	uh probably he he could have uh done
4493s	more uh in this game or you know popping
4496s	this this giant in the in this turn
4499s	where where he
4502s	resigned he like the bridge is a little
4504s	bit too much
4507s	yeah so much opportunity to build a
4509s	bridge all right I have to take
4513s	it um I think I'll look for the next
4516s	game now yep let's go to the next one
4522s	M I'll change the music
4535s	okay we are on the next one so who's
4537s	playing
4539s	here and oh fishing is
4545s	this I saw a fishing
4549s	room that's going we we talk about that
4552s	in a
4553s	moment yeah that's V again and the
4558s	opponent
4559s	is
4561s	uh I can pronounce that
4565s	um or something yeah okay hard
4570s	one pronounce that name okay oh and
4574s	apparently it is a Chinese name I think
4578s	ah yeah supposed to call it um H areu or
4583s	something like that okay okay
4587s	okay yeah so guo is is green and vse is
4591s	is orange
4592s	mhm so what what do you think about the
4595s	spawns here very close spawns
4601s	mhm but they don't know it yet
4606s	so yeah and they also have indicators in
4610s	on the same
4612s	direction yeah it will depend a lot on
4616s	how they explore this so let's see how
4618s	it starts
4622s	mhm so for goes for the center and the
4626s	opponent to but they have a separating
4629s	them oh yeah Village but that the wars
4634s	missed yeah mhm yeah why is getting to a
4638s	neutral City first between them and Wars
4642s	won't really have a CH well you can't re
4645s	KN
4652s	yeah finds out that his opponent is
4656s	sitting on the neutral
4658s	City yeah he sets up a Siege I believe
4662s	first he takes the ruin gets
4665s	fishing yeah
4668s	fantastic then he moves on resource
4670s	indicator finds his opponent on the city
4673s	well he doesn't have two units in range
4676s	riding 14 Stars so something different
4680s	he have able to ro in the second Warrior
4683s	yeah no it's not good yeah it must be
4686s	pretty frustrated at this star right
4690s	now and the opponent gets the rider to
4693s	defend the city yeah standard responds
4697s	in the
4698s	scenario yeah the Second City for boss
4701s	is so far away that's four ties away
4706s	Forest crazy here forestry
4710s	on W forry
4714s	ASAS not what you usually go for because
4717s	theas also has reduced forest rates but
4720s	he has four forests inside of his
4723s	Capital mhm um I think he also had does
4727s	he have an animal no no no it doesn't I
4731s	believe he wanted to go only hunting cuz
4734s	he can get the level two in the Second
4735s	City with it but no animal in this
4738s	Capital so it's forced to get Forester
4740s	and what's maybe a question for from me
4744s	um about zasi uh what is your um usual
4750s	uh play with with Zas or would you go uh
4753s	construction and burn those forest or
4756s	rather go um forestry like like Forest
4762s	did uh Forest is really a situational
4766s	Choice
4768s	like
4770s	uh I mean most of the times you want to
4773s	go
4774s	construction sometimes or is a good
4776s	second Tech can get some really good
4779s	cities with uh Four Farms and three or
4781s	and just get the giant with
4784s	that uh but yeah forestry is
4788s	really uh depending dependent on the on
4792s	your
4794s	sco so here well let's let's be more
4797s	specific so here yeah was this was this
4800s	Forest tree play a good choice or rather
4803s	construction and burning forest and
4806s	converting them into Farms so I would
4808s	say even mathematically speaking
4810s	construction is better here um because
4814s	if you take a look at it if he takes
4816s	construction now he play um now um he
4820s	builds a farm then he places a windmill
4823s	it costs him
4828s	then he only needs one he only needs two
4832s	Burns and two more Farms to get a giant
4834s	in his Capital so 20 Stars afterwards
4838s	for a giant and he saved two
4842s	stars
4844s	um yeah because like now he's in this
4848s	position yeah I also can't get the giant
4850s	with just Forest so yeah you're here
4853s	like how do you get a giant
4855s	so you need three more lumber huts and a
4859s	saw to get a giant F mm so you have to
4863s	also buy mathematics another Seven Stars
4866s	place a s another five and nine more
4869s	stars on L HS so that's so it it wasn't
4874s	a good deal yeah mhm yeah it's more
4876s	expensive once
4878s	again and well constructions just
4882s	generally a good t for theas
4887s	I think hunting can be good in many
4889s	scenarios but not so much
4892s	forestry yeah I think can be good also
4895s	for Archers later to defend the Giants
4898s	but yeah Forest is just strange step for
4902s	the Explorer reveals the lighthouse
4905s	which is nice but doesn't really R what
4908s	is
4910s	doing yeah that's that just missed the
4914s	that one time on the
4916s	Capal yeah Wars it's kind of funny so
4920s	Wars is um at how much stars per turn
4925s	eight Stars per turn despite only having
4927s	two
4930s	cities yeah
4932s	that's another Explorer though but it
4935s	doesn't go towards Wars at all it just
4938s	reveals a lot of stuff in the back yeah
4942s	mm yeah that's a range Explorer to Coos
4946s	there there's no City between them since
4949s	you can see where the wor city is
4953s	there's only two ties between the two
4955s	borders
4957s	so well I think why you mainly wanted to
4960s	know if there is anything between
4963s	them like well mainly wanted to know
4967s	what was is doing to make it easier to
4971s	play yeah for sure and I think that's it
4975s	could have it could have been easy to
4977s	explore with uh just units without the
4982s	Explorer yeah much cheaper definitely
4984s	mhm or at least shape it one t
4995s	so okay let's move on let's go yeah
5000s	mhm just more Riders um boards is
5004s	probably thing about the lighthouse to
5006s	make
5008s	um let's so get wor position here again
5011s	mhm um he has 12 Stars nine spt and
5015s	following turn he's going to have 21
5019s	stars
5021s	um so at the start of the
5024s	turn Okay so he starts 14 + 9 so he
5027s	would have 23 in two turns time and if
5031s	he moves his Warriors South this turn
5033s	and South in following turn turn nine
5036s	mhm um he is
5041s	able means he only needs two Lumber huts
5045s	and a stman instead of three Lumber huts
5048s	and if he count the Stars required 10
5051s	stars for for mathematics five for sill
5054s	six more for two Lumber Huts adds up to
5057s	21 so yeah he saves 21 Stars well he
5063s	saves 12 and has starts a turn and he
5066s	also reveals a ruin
5073s	yeah could also get a border but it's
5076s	the same star so so are better okay
5080s	roads for byou obviously very good with
5085s	riders and but generally good for
5088s	combat really cleaning a b army here
5091s	actually only saved 19 but I guess he
5095s	okay find the so M he just shops to
5098s	Forest yeah okay en
5105s	mhm Advan is the warrior
5108s	there so yeah so the pent just tries to
5114s	get The Siege on the other
5116s	city oh vet oh Stars that's that's lucky
5121s	yeah he he starts with only seven stars
5123s	per turn
5125s	and like he kind of needs like well he
5128s	has the park of Fortune Monument
5132s	still but needs a
5134s	miracle yeah he lacks one population but
5138s	without the star 10 Stars
5143s	here and the
5145s	Border able to take border Grove to deny
5149s	um like green from using Road over there
5153s	because now in his
5156s	territory it also gives the S more
5160s	potential
5164s	yeah yeah but without those stars from
5166s	the ruin it would have been probably GG
5169s	yeah so like green really has to think
5173s	about how to deal with the Giants now
5174s	because Riders are not very good against
5179s	GI yeah especially it doesn't have
5182s	enough to right this
5185s	crazy another Explorer
5187s	like yeah said if you don't shape the
5192s	Explorer just going to go back he was
5196s	very close to to getting two
5198s	lighthouses well I mean but I think
5201s	mathematically but wouldn't even be
5202s	possible
5204s	but and yeah I think the idea was to get
5207s	a s Lighthouse because that one
5211s	is and get the other the other two with
5214s	the with the units
5216s	yeah but what was results in is is that
5219s	green is at 13 stars per turn with four
5221s	cities by Wars is at 13 STS per turn
5224s	with two
5226s	[Music]
5228s	cities and here Wars even misses a on
5231s	opportunity like guess you can see he
5233s	got another giant here
5236s	but first have a giant would get pushed
5240s	I think either North or Northeast but in
5243s	either case
5246s	um could move onto this
5249s	road I think it's north oh so if he gets
5253s	pushed North he can even move onto this
5256s	road or he can just kill the warrior so
5260s	yes some Miss value here yeah I believe
5263s	the warrior is slightly better cuz he
5265s	can use the RO since L Vision I agree
5275s	[Music]
5277s	okay what are we seeing um for why you
5280s	here
5282s	organization okay what do I think what
5285s	do we think about organization here it
5287s	still LS one population to get the giant
5290s	even with
5292s	organization yeah he needs construction
5294s	to get the the Giant in
5297s	yako but he'll get two CI so he might
5300s	get a the grand yeah like
5309s	unfortunately somehow to get the park of
5311s	Fortune oh that's right okay and then
5315s	you need three more population which
5317s	would be a farm and a fruit mm yeah yeah
5322s	so yeah gets the Giant on and then Seven
5325s	Stars to get in but look at what
5331s	happened what construction to
5335s	yeah well the fruit is blocked
5338s	now okay so it doesn't need to
5341s	[Music]
5343s	get yeah so yeah using the fruit is no
5348s	longer an option but he has two Farms so
5352s	so it's yeah it's okay construction from
5355s	the ruin okay that's so it can pop a
5359s	giant okay so how would you pop a giant
5363s	here uh yes 16 Stars so that's two F
5368s	and windmill
5372s	wind like the alternative of course is
5374s	to get the Giant M capital when use the
5376s	park of Fortune here I think that is
5379s	what green is also
5381s	doing um I'm not a very big fan of that
5384s	because well how where do you have to
5386s	place the park of Fortune now yeah in
5390s	where the wind so South Southwest Quest
5395s	yeah but the problem is that now your
5397s	wind Mo spot is occupied yeah sure mhm
5401s	yeah and um if you take a look back and
5405s	green is at six cities and once green
5408s	connects with city as
5410s	Wellen would get access to the Grand
5412s	Bazar gate of power also is closed MH so
5418s	if the park of Fortune wasn't on that
5421s	high there could have been a windmill
5427s	and um in that case
5431s	um harvesting a fruit down
5435s	here and
5438s	um placing a
5442s	monument did I miss
5446s	something there I don't think there's a
5449s	way to actually get the second giant
5451s	maybe it's not possible okay yeah maybe
5454s	with with with mining but we don't know
5457s	if there any any if is there's any gold
5462s	in in those mountains yeah I guess it
5465s	would never be possible but still seems
5468s	a bit sad to use the park of Fortune
5470s	here I think M I would have just dropped
5472s	the park of Fortune the capital maybe or
5476s	in another
5477s	city yeah get maybe get the giant there
5480s	and throw the P of Fortune in the
5482s	capital to get the second Giant mhm like
5485s	this is just wasting
5496s	population okay so we see a catapult in
5499s	the back
5501s	for course so yeah first Cult of this
5507s	live
5508s	stream we haven't had this unit yet yeah
5512s	it's a St
5514s	difficult unit to see on zazi
5518s	miror so there's uh the opponent the
5522s	green player is trying to sneaker
5525s	either
5527s	uh in the west where wor does have
5531s	Vision are you talking about the
5533s	catapults already yeah mhm yes yes yeah
5536s	the catapults are a great method to the
5539s	V giant that um inevitably has to get
5543s	here
5546s	anden is kind of lacking response like
5549s	the best respond to Giants green has is
5551s	a
5553s	giant but well Wars got more Giants and
5558s	Wars also got like some extra giant
5561s	counters with the
5564s	Catapult yeah it's just going to M
5566s	through those giant if P doesn't come
5569s	come up with some rang options what grow
5574s	here yeah so what would you do uh
5577s	archers or get Knights or your own
5584s	cat well this is pretty difficult to
5587s	play I mean you could try to see what
5590s	the ring gives first but yeah you either
5593s	need some arches
5595s	to take out the Warriors and then the
5599s	cbles but with the Giants protecting
5603s	them mhm yeah because dce has enough
5606s	Giants to zone of
5608s	control the area so I guess the Riders
5611s	are not going good for to can just sit
5615s	back and itat with eat the Giants with
5618s	the catapults and then work its giants
5621s	into the cities M yes so what green
5624s	actually did here was like setting up
5626s	the Giants behind the city to be able to
5629s	kill a giant and if Force goes for The
5632s	Siege I think few more un would be
5635s	necessary but would be enough in the end
5640s	can you actually un Siege there because
5643s	I don't
5644s	think if he went with with the with the
5647s	giant I don't believe that can siege
5650s	that even with two giants though wa do
5653s	you mean I think two
5655s	Giants and like a few small units
5659s	definitely should be able to un Siege
5661s	giant Siege yeah but the problem is that
5664s	yeah the opponent needs climbing and
5667s	doesn't really have many units there
5669s	other than the Giants I guess green
5671s	would need
5673s	climbing yeah I mean in need throw in
5677s	need throw to get the rider in in the
5680s	west and climbing to get Warrior on the
5684s	mountain and then he have three units
5686s	that canne the giant I'm not sure if
5689s	that's enough I believe so yeah it would
5692s	have been difficult too
5695s	to um to un siege that and
5699s	then uh you know to keep the like uh you
5704s	know Siege yeah
5707s	again oh yeah that's true you can just
5709s	take it back
5714s	M yeah so but I think what wars is
5718s	mainly thinking about as well is that
5720s	trading his Giant's HP against Green
5724s	Giants HP it's not very good for him
5727s	because he can easily kill Giants but
5729s	green
5731s	cannot yeah I can wait one turn and get
5734s	the catapults in range and just how many
5737s	stars was the city the c yako or Yoko uh
5741s	I believe five okay so it's it's it's a
5744s	good deal so yeah yeah the warrior the
5747s	warrior
5748s	for yeah always good to see opponent
5751s	City and throwing away weak units for it
5754s	[Music]
5759s	mhm yeah it get a better
5762s	on Spirit from
5765s	Rin what did he get from the ruin free
5768s	spirit ah okay so that's lucky mhm
5771s	that's nice but I guess technically you
5774s	would think Knights are nice here
5776s	because Knights are good against
5777s	catapults but how do knights help
5780s	against the Giants like mhm yeah that's
5784s	big problem
5788s	here yeah but sh
5791s	juster
5793s	M yeah one giant perun is just yeah
5796s	double Siege
5798s	mhm he can un the one on yat but I doubt
5803s	he can are being
5809s	dropped another
5811s	Explorer well was someone l finally has
5814s	been revealed yeah nor one isn't that
5817s	hard to get and there's another city in
5819s	the
5820s	north mhm yeah but okay
5825s	well something important is about to
5827s	happen mhm let's look at Green's income
5830s	before
5831s	this 21 Stars per
5834s	turn oh he's going to lose oh that's
5838s	that's
5839s	off is losing the connection
5842s	City oh oh yeah yeah that's that's rough
5846s	how how low is the dropping 14 Stars uh
5850s	Seven
5851s	Stars yeah so he lost well green lost
5855s	seven stars for this
5861s	mhm also yeah and his Giants are still
5864s	still in range yeah that's very bad okay
5868s	now the cities are connected again but
5870s	it obviously was a lot of Stars lost
5876s	and also V if he takes mining he can get
5879s	another giant there in this y well he
5883s	would also need organization but he gets
5887s	mining ah he uses mining in the gate of
5889s	power
5892s	yeah yeah I had enough but I guess he
5894s	wanted the giant this yeah more sieges
5897s	39 green income green finally gets a
5899s	noral lighthouse picks up chivalry and
5902s	makes a knight but it looks juicy right
5905s	now and see this KN let's see if it's
5909s	going to work
5911s	out but the catap are kind of spaced
5914s	now that's see the KN
5917s	actually no no he did not have the
5920s	vision okay yeah Waris does not see a s
5926s	yeah so that was a surprise but it did
5930s	space the units so yeah but green can
5933s	still kill two catapults because green
5935s	does not have
5937s	climbing oh yeah that's
5941s	right and can suits the capital does he
5944s	have a monument there um yeah he got the
5947s	eye of God mhm yeah
5951s	there does he have the Gate of power
5954s	yet I believe place from didn't place it
5960s	he placed the road the road Monument but
5963s	not the G yeah well WS just kills the
5966s	next
5967s	giant
5968s	yeah that's not going to
5972s	yeah yeah that's uhhuh that's fair
5977s	enough yeah good
5978s	game yeah coming back from two uh you
5983s	know two versus six that's that's a wait
5987s	you can see that in the in the replay
5989s	what yeah I I think that happens if the
5992s	replay ends it's a bit here oh yeah yeah
5995s	there's a lot of strange things that
5997s	happen
5999s	when maybe because of the you know the
6001s	the Aquarian reworks some bugs yeah that
6005s	it's it's just strange when the replay
6008s	ends like sometimes you can't even uh
6010s	close the replay unless you go back in
6013s	the
6015s	before just yeah anyway anyway uh good
6019s	game so vse came came back from uh like
6024s	being four
6026s	cities uh behind uh so it's it's not
6030s	doesn't happen very often that that you
6031s	can make that kind of comeback right
6035s	yeah he for sure got lucky with that
6037s	star win but uh yeah that was well
6042s	played so what do you think was was the
6045s	right play with for green
6048s	when um with this uh to defend this this
6052s	city uh yeah
6055s	so um because it was it was um in the
6058s	end it was
6059s	the uh The crucial moment when when one
6063s	vs got it and popped another giant
6067s	because it's so close to the capital so
6069s	we go also gave him a good uh like an
6073s	highway to to the green Capital you mean
6077s	what green should have done differently
6079s	over game yeah I think
6084s	you have
6085s	to consider how to deal with the Giants
6088s	earlier
6091s	mhm uh like one option can be okay
6095s	you're going for an economy lead you
6097s	take like workshops everywhere that way
6100s	you're going to have higher income
6101s	because Wars only has two cities
6104s	mhm then you can maybe afford to Suicide
6107s	a bunch of riders into Giants because
6109s	you got more cities mhm um I would have
6112s	probably liked to see archery for green
6115s	here it's expensive to take into but
6117s	very against
6120s	Giants yeah what I didn't like on the
6124s	green side was the amount of the s that
6128s	they got since yeah I I understand going
6132s	for the eye of God because that's an
6135s	extra Monument that may not have but uh
6140s	the I have got in the end is just
6141s	population so the most can give you is a
6144s	giant and since for was going for
6147s	catapults Giants are just going to M to
6151s	be melting from the the point mhm and so
6156s	yeah I think he should have gone for
6158s	workshops and triy to take into SS like
6161s	archers as Master said that could have
6164s	helped him actually kill the
6167s	Giants what about the the expansion of
6170s	green uh was it uh done the right way or
6175s	maybe he too much in expanding the
6179s	expansion was definitely good I mean we
6181s	got basically the whole map the problem
6184s	was that green was not able to hold the
6186s	giant push from Wars like green was able
6189s	to hold there yeah I mean it's just game
6192s	over for Wars MH yeah he needed a way to
6196s	deal with the giant stuff yeah what's
6199s	actually kind of funny is I think green
6204s	okay green just barely would not be able
6207s	to pull off a Houdini
6209s	here I was thinking about this because
6213s	there are like four more tiles that have
6215s	to be covered but there only two units
6217s	so I guess it's hard yeah that's that's
6220s	very difficult
6221s	to if green was planning to uneg that
6224s	city with a giant maybe should
6227s	consider what about a turn later because
6231s	uh this turn it was
6234s	pushed and
6238s	uh
6240s	um what at wor when
6250s	responds or it's just he left he left
6254s	yeah he left uh this one
6257s	spot
6260s	so it wasn't it wasn't a giant seeg okay
6264s	wait yeah now what happened is and V
6268s	moved this giant next to this shine
6270s	green even attacks that giant which
6271s	means um Green's own giant becomes even
6274s	Beaker down to 32 HP
6278s	now
6280s	and just kill one of the Giants so
6282s	there's no chance for orange po another
6287s	giant there's no chance for yeah yeah
6290s	yeah MH even with those mountains
6294s	not having climbing yeah there was no no
6296s	way they could yeah and even with
6299s	another giant that's just two c staying
6302s	down at it
6303s	so yeah but actually speaking about
6306s	hinis we did not have any yet any any
6309s	Houdini yet yeah difficult to make anini
6312s	year I'm hoping to to see one in in
6316s	those last two games that we have that's
6320s	with so maybe we see that okay so let's
6324s	move on to do the next
6326s	one okay I'll load up the next game
6341s	mhm
6347s	okay so what do we have right
6350s	here um
6355s	yeah once again I'm
6358s	involved game
6360s	actually um we got um Kel in Orange um
6366s	playing against me and brown we both
6369s	playy and we're playing on continents
6372s	okay
6373s	and
6375s	spoiler it's basically two continent map
6378s	there one little island uhhuh yeah but
6381s	uh it looks like very
6384s	uh equal
6386s	so the per almost a perfect perfect map
6391s	distribution yeah Kel has the advantage
6393s	of having lighthous spawn which can help
6397s	accelerating the economy
6399s	early um for me that maybe means that I
6401s	have more directions to expand into
6405s	M yeah it looks like one of the few
6408s	continents map on small that don't
6410s	actually have many opportunities for
6412s	Bridges
6414s	so I'm expecting that maybe we had
6418s	enough bridges in
6419s	this live stream so maybe now see
6424s	some
6426s	yeah for
6429s	that yeah no Bridge spots yeah
6440s	mhm yeah a lot of exploring
6445s	canel picks up fishing before capturing
6447s	the
6448s	city and really
6454s	good and
6457s	you get some decent Vision but doesn't
6461s	go that
6465s	deep I go for a port because what did I
6470s	see yeah I don't see any sh L indicators
6474s	into any directions so I decided that
6477s	building a port is like the best play
6479s	for this map when I move into the port
6482s	and I see with Shan on the other side
6488s	um yeah at first I wasn't happy about it
6491s	but it turned out that you can't build
6492s	the bridge anyways in this map
6495s	mhm yeah it's always a gion
6508s	Explorer for it's the first explorer for
6511s	me that doesn't go well for
6515s	oh another Lighthouse missed okay it
6518s	missed the lighthouse and misses my
6521s	opponent yeah yeah that wasn't the great
6523s	play and
6525s	um so I kind of needed some stars to
6529s	upgrade my cities so I decided um let's
6533s	move in raft and this way I get the
6536s	meeting
6537s	Stars how many points did he have at
6540s	this point 1.9k so okay so you did not
6543s	get get five yeah yeah the ra is now
6548s	next to the coast he can just kill it
6551s	picks up construction before cturing the
6553s	city he wouldn't even have needed
6555s	construction and let's go back to the
6557s	start of his turn he could just make a
6559s	giant here with two farms in a port
6561s	wanted yeah
6563s	I think that would have been a better
6565s	play because that's pretty hard to stop
6569s	turn seven giant next to a port for me
6572s	it's a lot harder to get a
6575s	giant and I think he's explor so
6578s	Mr the the
6580s	lious um little bit of an Explorer trick
6584s	once again uh the closest for actually
6587s	to the east which means it's guaranteed
6590s	that the Explorer goes to
6593s	okay so I want to know what he's doing
6596s	so taking Explorer let's see what the
6599s	Explorer
6603s	does yeah it just goes south once
6606s	again doesn't get the lious
6609s	yeah because there deep water yeah deep
6612s	water and you don't have
6615s	yeah well now you see what the giant mhm
6619s	one turn later than it could have
6621s	been yeah and you can get another one I
6625s	see giant as well I'm not very happy
6627s	about
6632s	it yeah he goes after this this Village
6635s	for the
6637s	expansion
6639s	coming why did they get
6642s	that b to get water access because so
6645s	his spawn is is okay but he has just one
6649s	city with with water excess
6653s	yeah I mean why did he get that that far
6657s	why did he bar that it could have
6660s	placed um a wind instead of
6664s	baring oh okay
6667s	mhm let's look again what you
6670s	did oh yeah that that farm over there
6673s	was completely useless mhm yeah it's
6677s	just five maybe he thought originally
6679s	about placing the park of Fortune in uh
6683s	AR to make another
6686s	giant but when he decides against it I
6689s	don't
6691s	know wait I don't have this many stars
6696s	right let's fix that really
6706s	quick yeah that seems more like it so I
6709s	pick up
6710s	construction because like I see with
6712s	shine I have to find a way to deal with
6714s	it two ports very expensive but it gets
6718s	the job done get a
6720s	giant um
6723s	like in this position and I know that he
6727s	can easily get another Giant in that
6730s	City I was actually surprised that he
6732s	didn't get another one in turn nine
6736s	mhm so yeah I'm thinking about the water
6741s	is probably lost because he has the drag
6744s	here he EAS gets another one
6747s	here yeah let's see how it plays
6753s	out yeah it's pretty to lose the water
6756s	on
6758s	this and the thir
6762s	giant he lands to Juggernaut right next
6765s	to a
6770s	city h
6774s	actually a question why did you move
6776s	back those Warriors because then he was
6778s	able to land the chugger not and if you
6782s	get the the Warriors like that's a
6785s	pretty good question I think it was a
6787s	mistake
6798s	okay yeah I didn't I didn't really pay
6801s	attention that he had this one way to
6803s	land on my continent so now um I was
6808s	thinking about okay how expensive is it
6810s	for me to pop a giant the city mhm um
6814s	what do I need I need a windmill
6819s	here a farm I think and then maybe burn
6823s	one forest or something like that make
6824s	another farm with population
6829s	growth but I come to a conclusion that I
6831s	can afford two Riders
6834s	and I also um move my Warriors um in a
6838s	way that maybe scares them into thinking
6841s	that I can call off a Houdini mhm okay
6845s	he gets stars from a ruin wait no was it
6848s	stars yes
6851s	mhm and in fact like he's slacking
6855s	Vision
6857s	um he sees the Ridder and he doesn't
6860s	really know what I have over here so I
6862s	think he was actually scared but I might
6864s	pull off a Houdini here
6867s	yeah yeah but with with those two ra
6870s	rafts I think you you know he could get
6874s	a um like sailing or and kill at least
6879s	one of your warriors
6882s	too I would assume that he was afraid of
6884s	throwing the game I guess like this
6886s	Explorer I don't get it why would you do
6889s	that yeah that's yeah like you have only
6893s	one possible Ty V Explorer can go
6896s	to it doesn't have settings
6899s	so maybe a misclick
6902s	yeah maybe it was a misclick okay so my
6906s	turn
6908s	here I start with 28
6912s	Stars I'm thinking okay how do I get out
6914s	of this situation my opponent has more
6916s	giin I have lost
6919s	water so now I am stuck on my own
6922s	continent I'm thinking markets are the
6927s	answer interesting like if you don't
6929s	know markets gives you one
6932s	star per turn for every level of nearby
6938s	windmill Forge or sill sas's case um
6943s	well windmills are the interesting ones
6946s	so in order to increase the odds for a
6948s	trade ruin I pick up roads before taking
6950s	a
6951s	ruin I up getting
6954s	stars now I'm at 29
6957s	stars um so yeah I decide to be greedy
6962s	and use all my remaining stars to place
6965s	the First Market plus three STS per turn
6967s	I
6969s	mean got to start somewhere
6973s	yeah yeah
6974s	the is one of the ti that gets markets
6980s	only because you often want to go for r
6984s	road
6986s	so and it's also a t zero type so you
6990s	have the economy for
6993s	that yeah but anyways markets are really
6995s	unusual in those very competitive games
6999s	because
7002s	it's very rarely uh is uh is visible on
7007s	the on the map yeah and another reason
7010s	for that also is that of you're playing
7013s	life games here mhm like you have to do
7016s	a lot of planning tonight like not
7018s	accidentally block your um spots for
7021s	like a windmill or Market yeah ideally
7025s	you want have a cluster where you have
7027s	like a lot of markets and windmills next
7029s	to each other but those windmills also
7031s	have to be high level or the markets
7033s	won't be
7035s	affected the idea behind well markets of
7038s	M is
7040s	basically yeah so you're getting Giants
7042s	because you're leveling up a
7045s	windmill and when you're also getting
7047s	money because you're building markets
7048s	next to
7062s	it yeah four giants for Canal on the
7066s	field one pretty deep in my territory
7070s	but your Market
7073s	[Music]
7078s	another
7079s	giant now Theon can see the markets
7082s	actually yeah but um let's go back to
7085s	the start of the turn so I start the
7087s	turn with 203 Stars per turn let's let's
7091s	see at where I
7097s	end okay 28 9 31
7105s	32
7107s	33 like it's kind of
7109s	czy going from 23 stars to 33 Stars per
7113s	turn and also get a giant on top of that
7116s	yeah good job
7119s	L um here I leave the city open once
7122s	again I think I'm teasing that I could
7127s	to
7130s	okay yeah he gets sailing
7135s	the ocean
7137s	ruin yeah maybe he was hoping for
7139s	starfish and set up some bombers once
7142s	again did not Siege me here and this is
7144s	very nice for me because this allows me
7147s	to spend my stars on Hunting an archery
7150s	because like I see all those Giants and
7152s	they're about to land my continent like
7154s	I need something that works against them
7156s	so I go yeah but with with him uh having
7160s	sailing already I don't really
7163s	understand why did why he did not see
7165s	you because yeah he could have killed
7167s	the Warriors he could have killed any
7169s	Warrior or
7170s	Rider I don't
7172s	know being he he was too
7175s	cautious um population ruin and also
7178s	those giants in the north actually doing
7180s	nothing like just you know yeah I don't
7183s	know I I guess bathing bathing in this
7187s	in this Lake I don't know it's like why
7189s	would you send those giants he TR to
7193s	from the
7195s	[Music]
7196s	action there Seven Stars left and his
7199s	capital is three out of five Pop I think
7202s	he definitely should place the wind here
7204s	to make another giant
7208s	mhm but yeah I now have my archers and
7212s	I'm just killing this giant that's
7214s	sitting inside my base finally and now I
7219s	can actually um Place more markets here
7222s	because which giant is no longer
7223s	occupying the spots yeah
7227s	W
7229s	Ramos yeah jugut is staying
7235s	fast yeah but anyways he gave you so
7237s	much time to to prepare let's look at
7241s	this again this was a bit
7245s	embarrassing let's look at my tech tree
7248s	and what I don't have
7250s	sailing so I was thinking y he gave me
7254s	so much Splash value here I want to kill
7256s	that Dr and splash all his
7258s	units let's see what
7261s	happens
7265s	yeah
7267s	okay yeah you did good but with the
7269s	markets but with this one you yeah yeah
7273s	yeah 48 stars in the the pocket way yeah
7279s	but like besides that you're seeing
7281s	quite well now how you can use the land
7284s	units against na units yeah like I just
7288s	took out that Rama there taking any
7290s	damage now another Scout is down up
7293s	there another Scout is going
7296s	down at this point and
7300s	now yeah the idea is um I I get so much
7305s	income at this point like I'm thinking
7308s	if I take population growth here like
7310s	first of all I have less opportunities
7312s	to build port and second of
7314s	all
7317s	um it gives me um more options to make
7321s	more Giants because like expanding the
7324s	borders I'm also getting a bunch of
7326s	resources like I'm also getting a bunch
7328s	of additional resources mhm yeah yeah
7332s	this STS to use them so why not at this
7335s	point I have almost two times this
7338s	income
7342s	this of course a little bit threatening
7347s	here now he makes the
7353s	giant but what happens once again scout
7356s	next to the coast just dies here gets
7360s	some decent Splash damage shut next to
7362s	the
7362s	coast I it's that jugut was full HP and
7367s	now take a look at How It Ends mhm down
7370s	to 11 HP
7373s	yeah and your markets are growing even
7375s	higher like I'm constantly like M I'm
7378s	producing units in every single City and
7381s	my excess money is going towards more
7384s	Giants and higher level markets
7387s	mhm okay so now we got a bomber very
7390s	good value
7392s	here I think he probably should have had
7396s	a bomber a while ago mhm at least if he
7399s	wants to play the way he's playing
7404s	yeah
7406s	that's okay well my perspec how do I
7410s	deal with this giant
7413s	Siege maybe I have enough if I use all
7416s	my units against this one giant but I'm
7420s	at eight out of 10
7421s	kills power so I need just two more
7426s	kills um there are like a bunch of
7429s	vulnerable targets here like the weak
7430s	giant or the warrior
7434s	so the first aini of today and I
7441s	mean thank you L for this
7445s	trick yeah finally got one oh yeah I
7450s	got so
7453s	nice yeah I also pick up strategy like
7455s	I'm thinking about how to finally get
7458s	into the
7460s	water yeah to make those
7463s	water units more tanky
7469s	mhm yeah it's still going to be
7471s	difficult and right here I think um this
7474s	was quite nice so if you take a look at
7477s	this
7479s	bomber um yeah a little bit of a trick
7482s	Road in a jugut place Port next to it
7485s	and it Tak Splash damage
7490s	yeah and yeah at this point so many
7498s	units kills giant here and I'm not sure
7502s	if he can kill this giant he's busy
7504s	keeping the defender out of the ocean
7507s	but now Jon is left at 13 HP and this
7511s	time I can't make the same mistake
7514s	again because well there is no deer
7517s	involved yeah and yeah jugernaut just
7520s	kills this
7522s	and
7523s	now
7525s	um yeah I place another port to Road in
7528s	another Juggernaut his Navy is basically
7530s	completely clear M
7534s	yeah this giant that we see is is it his
7537s	only giant that is left or and um what I
7540s	also do here is like now I got a bunch
7543s	of units in the water and in order to
7545s	make them tank here like I have so much
7548s	money I have how many stars left 5
7552s	for yeah I buy ramming for 14 and
7555s	aquatis for 19 which gives me a defense
7561s	water I keep play for a
7564s	while that's his only Jo yeah mm but he
7568s	notice there's like no way to kill this
7572s	and at this point he lost control and
7576s	gave up mhm yeah good job realistically
7580s	I'm making 58 Stars per turn he's making
7583s	28
7585s	M yeah no way to come back from
7594s	that yep good good
7598s	job so what would you say was the um
7603s	your opponent's mistake in this game or
7607s	or turning
7609s	points what helped you win
7614s	um I think it started early like the
7617s	first thing
7618s	was I think turn seven giant here would
7621s	be very good mhm two farms and a port
7626s	instead of what he did it's like that
7629s	timing is very important because if your
7631s	opponent can't respond to it
7634s	mhm um yeah we're basically done gives
7639s	you so much pressure on the map now he
7641s	he gets the giant finally in this
7646s	turn but now
7648s	here what he could have done is instead
7651s	of moving the warrian the port um he
7655s	could have actually gone for um I think
7660s	the giant would get pushed West if he
7661s	made a second giant
7664s	mhm so he could have just pushed
7667s	Juggernaut into a port right away and
7669s	have another Juggernaut behind yeah
7672s	a vial concern is if you place the park
7674s	of Fortune here you have only one port
7677s	spot here mhm so I guess that would be a
7681s	problem maybe but two juggernauts I'm
7684s	not sure how I would stop that no they
7687s	were kind of far away from your Giants
7691s	so mhm yeah so so first first point like
7696s	being slow with
7697s	the with the
7700s	Giants so they missed an opportunity for
7704s	an early attack
7706s	right
7709s	yeah like he gave me time to prepare my
7713s	defense
7717s	mhm yeah here thought that this city was
7720s	vulnerable but um mean it kind of was
7724s	vulnerable so it was a good idea to land
7726s	there mhm but what happened the
7729s	following turn like you need to do
7730s	something here like you can just sit
7732s	around with your Giants if you just sit
7734s	around so same thing as earlier like
7736s	you're wasting your advantage you have
7738s	yeah mhm I guess he moves North to force
7742s	me to move my giant back out of the
7744s	water so I guess that was maybe
7748s	okay the second one to was definitely
7752s	not
7754s	like you may be scared of uh of anini
7758s	here but not the second time
7763s	and obviously the Explorer there was
7766s	yeah and yeah we have to mention those
7768s	explorers which were like so obviously
7771s	your your uh Eco Advantage was uh I
7775s	think that explored on there wasn't that
7777s	big of a deal like didn't end up making
7780s	that big of a difference but he was
7781s	lacking one Stars yeah but still you you
7783s	lose stars and if if there's this like
7786s	you know economic war going on obviously
7790s	it it makes a difference
7794s	sometimes yeah but he just had to do
7796s	something with his Advantage instead of
7799s	like like right here and here this this
7802s	exploring with with giants this is like
7805s	again the exploration of jugut also not
7808s	very optimal
7810s	yeah and there's another mistake um I
7814s	just take a look what happens every time
7819s	um Canal moves a unit next to a show
7823s	so right now scout next to the shore
7826s	over here M see if he get any more
7829s	examples of
7832s	that later in the game when you have the
7836s	The Archers ready you get a lot of kills
7839s	with that okay this time does not get
7842s	punished for doing
7845s	that now he moves the scout next to the
7848s	shore up there Grandma next to the shore
7851s	here scouts over
7855s	here and how much of that is going to
7860s	survive yeah because they were misplay
7862s	more but
7864s	yeah yeah now that you have Ro that us
7868s	he's losing um I think what was it two
7871s	Scouts and two ramas yeah that's 28
7878s	stars but yeah and I lose almost nothing
7883s	for it in exchange
7886s	Yeah Yeah by this point your markets are
7890s	just and then obviously I
7894s	think yeah let's look at what happened
7897s	here right with
7899s	Siege after this happened the game
7902s	probably was kind of over
7905s	mhm yeah that was the last option for
7908s	him
7913s	yeah I think at this point he already
7916s	probably was in a bad position mhm
7920s	because I can just like he can't really
7923s	capture It capture red City I can just
7926s	po giant if I want to but he has to do
7929s	something or else I just win because I
7931s	have market and he doesn't yeah and
7934s	looking at his setup like he wouldn't
7936s	really be able to fit markets in there
7939s	mhm yeah
7942s	he was kind of on a timer
7945s	yeah yeah
7947s	so yeah sorry go
7949s	ahead no I was just saying he needed to
7952s	push Advantage at the start and then
7955s	after he lost that that wasn't really
7958s	much good to the markets just give too
7961s	too much economy advantage to
7964s	wer yeah it's just going to get TCH and
7967s	TCH and TCH and and win the game yeah
7970s	and I was I was kind
7972s	of um worried about the the port spots
7977s	that me had but in the end uh actually
7981s	those cities not having a a direct
7984s	access to to to water were you know it
7988s	was a defensive position so he was just
7992s	throwing units at you and you were just
7994s	you know killing all of them uh and
7997s	building up your economy so it was it
8000s	was pretty much
8002s	an e economy you know win not a you know
8007s	great strategic uh offensive
8011s	right because you you actually you
8014s	actually did not did not Siege any of
8016s	his cities not even landed on his
8019s	continent which is very very
8024s	uncommon so yeah yeah but I mean like he
8028s	he saw his markets right like he sees
8031s	four Market
8032s	I think I could have got like I don't
8035s	know 10 more stars per turn if I really
8037s	wanted to mhm would have been even more
8040s	devastating yeah and like what kept Him
8044s	in the game the whole time was that he
8045s	had Naval control now he has lost that
8050s	so yeah yeah maybe if he managed to get
8053s	bombers but it's yeah I thought about
8057s	position maybe yeah I thought about that
8059s	but once me got the archers it's like
8063s	you can't place a bomber here uh to be
8066s	really really in range in range and be
8069s	threatening because they always in like
8072s	two tile range of archers so you me
8077s	would always be able to uh to attack
8080s	them so yeah the only possibility would
8083s	be catapults but like you can yeah but
8086s	still it's
8088s	like yeah it's impossible to get them
8090s	fast enough
8093s	yeah I think I think they missed their
8095s	chances so for example if they landed
8098s	those three Giants that went North at
8101s	some point uh I think even with markets
8104s	you would have been in a kind of a you
8106s	know danger because then if you even
8109s	popped a
8110s	giant U then he could you know kill it
8115s	so I think he's um he he he kind of
8119s	wasted his uh his offensive um potential
8124s	when you were in the process of building
8126s	up your
8127s	economy so he gave you a lot of time so
8130s	this that's why also the the markets
8132s	were
8134s	possible yep I agree like this game also
8137s	very well shows like um why NA units are
8142s	not that good when you can also use land
8145s	units because as you highlighted like he
8148s	can't position a bomber anywhere really
8150s	but
8153s	being in range
8154s	ofers like I'm completely fine throwing
8157s	away two archers in exchange for bomber
8159s	I paid six stars for the two archers
8162s	yeah they paid 17 at un cost for
8168s	bomber
8172s	yeah so we are in agreement
8176s	mhm all right should I go for the final
8179s	game yes let's go to the the final
8189s	game what map is
8192s	this um we have continents once again
8195s	continents again
8197s	mhm this time with River where you can
8200s	build Bridges once again but not that
8202s	many yeah one spot here one over here I
8207s	don't think there are any other possib
8210s	yeah mhm one
8212s	continent that's
8216s	just that's not between the two
8219s	continents yeah yeah and I was saying
8221s	one continent has two more cities than
8224s	the other
8225s	Soh be interesting to see that and also
8228s	the the water access is uh is a bit
8233s	difficult in this uh
8235s	Eastern so who's
8238s	playing we got canel in Orange against
8243s	Boris in
8244s	turkeys
8246s	okay let's
8249s	go yeah a lot of farms for V and the
8252s	lighthouse spawn but that's really does
8256s	not have that many
8264s	resources yeah so this on spon I think B
8268s	is slightly better also because we we
8271s	already saw the continent so we know
8274s	that he has here let's go
8282s	back so the opponent
8285s	[Music]
8288s	go he is
8291s	yeah he's actually taking an Explorer in
8293s	his City
8295s	too which is really aggressive but may
8298s	pay off yeah and he doesn't even have
8300s	fishing yet
8303s	very risky it doesn't really end up
8305s	hanging
8307s	out and the opponent finds a ruin next
8310s	to the light house which is nice and
8313s	wait did he just did you just place aort
8316s	on the
8319s	fish and let's look at it again he plac
8322s	the port on the
8327s	fish yeah
8331s	yeah okay is that a
8334s	problem I'm not sure I'm not sure it
8337s	could have upgraded the city
8339s	and maybe we should question if a port
8343s	is the right
8344s	call like he sees the shine over there
8349s	so he knows and our continent is
8353s	close yeah I mean I'm not sure I really
8356s	like that but
8359s	that's sacrificing the fish
8362s	and there is also this you know saying
8364s	that whoever gets first on water is is
8367s	usually the winner so I guess they are
8370s	rushing rushing you know sailing and
8374s	domination saw a bunch of stic continent
8377s	game so far mhm and like in I think in
8382s	all the games we saw it was better to
8384s	not go on the water at all really yeah
8387s	cuz you need to support to actually
8389s	support your units on the water
8391s	to get so yeah MH yeah bis is taking
8395s	riding here because um he sees both
8398s	Shoreline indicator it's indicating
8400s	where there's another continent nearby
8402s	in fact he sees two spots where he can
8405s	build a bridge eventually
8408s	mhm so yeah it goes for either whiches
8411s	Starin oh that's
8415s	nice and he also picks up sailing now
8418s	and goes for a scout doesn't go and the
8423s	starfish which should cting basically
8427s	nothing I think he did not see the
8430s	starfish
8432s	yet or has he no he had he had on the
8436s	starfish okay M my bad M Voris gets the
8441s	roads and
8442s	fishing probably considering an Explorer
8446s	now Keno uses his Naval advantage to
8449s	deny voice the city so he Deni decides
8452s	to deny the city over a
8454s	ruin
8457s	um yeah I guess it's
8459s	okay I'm I'm not sure what I would deny
8463s	I guess yeah it's a t decision city is
8467s	definitely good I think he go for
8470s	City opportunity to place cour there but
8474s	at the same time like ruin can give a
8476s	big boost
8478s	immediately and he takes Construction
8482s	organization and
8484s	[Music]
8486s	from yeah and B get a giant I
8490s	guess yeah we got to expect him to go
8493s	for a giant here what did he get from
8495s	the ru actually I didn't see one gave
8497s	organization the other gave nomadic
8500s	tribe oh
8503s	nice yeah also po ruin for Kel here now
8507s	he decides to deny this city down here
8510s	instead of that one up there not sure
8512s	about
8514s	that because I think the center city is
8516s	more important yeah it's very Central I
8519s	guess he wanted the vision if you go
8522s	back uh didn't really have any Vision
8525s	down here maybe he saw to fish was
8527s	scared City he had good
8531s	resources we can just speculate here
8536s	really but this is nice for Wars he
8539s	takes an Explorer here
8541s	um meets Tel gets some decent Vision
8546s	nice and he builds the bridge
8549s	now what happened here
8552s	oh the bridge connects to the port and
8557s	yeah it's a special case where that's
8560s	possible um similar to connecting
8562s	through cities but I think it won't be
8566s	possible for long anymore H it's getting
8569s	removed in the upcoming patch I
8572s	think did me1 remove that too I mean I
8576s	know he removed the connection through
8577s	cities
8579s	but I basically this is caused by the
8583s	same bug if you want to call it the bu
8586s	because connection from a bridge to a
8589s	port also only works if a bridge is
8592s	closer to the Northwestern Edge when the
8595s	port
8597s	is if the bridge was over here it would
8600s	not connect important
8607s	mhm yeah natur Explorer because yeah
8610s	that's fine might as well get the vision
8612s	right
8616s	basically damn yeah the done by getting
8621s	the
8627s	lies yeah first Shine for Cano
8634s	like this just feels so bad he places
8636s	the windmill on top of the farm and then
8639s	the park of forun on top of the
8641s	farm yeah that's that's a
8644s	waste
8647s	yeah and the first Siege and look at
8651s	what Canal has just a seven and a six HP
8656s	yeah I got the siege there yeah and that
8659s	was only possible because
8662s	let's look at what war did yeah he rote
8664s	it in his rider to hit that warrior in
8666s	the back mm yeah nice play yeah and by
8671s	the way and I'll notices oh actually I
8673s	can't
8674s	kill by the way he plac the the actual
8680s	Park of Fortune on that City it would
8682s	have po the giant
8685s	dist I mean if yeah you're right if you
8689s	plac the park of Fortune here he could
8690s	have made a giant
8692s	with construction I guess he didn't
8695s	really see that he was vulnerable
8698s	there did he see the
8700s	bridge yeah he saw the
8703s	bridge yeah so this was kind
8706s	of
8708s	being War back like purposely it back
8712s	out of range I think War just places a
8715s	bunch of roads to reach it yeah two
8718s	extra roads
8722s	expensive siege for Wars but it's going
8724s	to stick
8726s	so climbing ruining definitely not
8730s	something he wants right now aquaculture
8733s	before taking the
8739s	city yeah but now that Force has land on
8744s	the opponent continents since he has
8746s	right the roads that's going to be
8748s	pretty tough for the opponent to theend
8751s	he also gets um he also has six cities
8754s	now which means he can get the grand
8756s	Bazar
8760s	mhm and he immediately uses that one to
8763s	get a
8764s	giant yeah so he's defended right there
8769s	yeah nice play from kenel here to place
8771s	with Scout behind the Jugger so that
8775s	jugernaut cannnot get any damage onto
8777s	the scout
8781s	but vce will probably get the city in
8783s	the
8785s	southwest I mean canot got a lot of
8788s	units nearby let's
8790s	see yeah I could defend it with enough
8794s	rers he isn't going for
8796s	it
8799s	okay
8801s	yeah yeah completely War his
8806s	Navy
8808s	but um yeah Force has a port up here and
8812s	force controls the river so can cannot
8816s	harass that area and vce picks up
8819s	aquaculture to make rammer
8829s	here neutral City not sure if fitting
8832s	the rum with the Scout
8836s	was and what do you
8839s	mean oh I mean when you eat the armor
8842s	with the Scout like that's just going to
8850s	die ah can this
8853s	turn
8855s	mhm yeah I don't think this was a good
8858s	idea and also about this previous play
8862s	so I see that uh that Canal doesn't
8865s	actually have 30 pter movement so uh
8869s	placing
8871s	for sorry yeah uh so actually this
8874s	Juggernaut wouldn't be able to reach
8875s	this uh this
8878s	scout um next to the two Kel Explorer
8883s	for Kel reveals the Western Lighthouse
8886s	that's a nice missing nor
8890s	oneing
8891s	now and that not do a lot of
8895s	damage what's happening on land
8901s	really just a standoff Canal just with
8904s	warriors on the water we got a bunch of
8910s	ramas yeah canel has a really strong
8914s	force on the water
8916s	but now there
8920s	a like V just used the ride us on
8924s	land he also um did a nice trick here
8928s	right with r took damage but it already
8930s	had three out of three kills so he just
8932s	promotes it right away yeah and healed
8934s	it yeah mhm and with Splash Dage from
8938s	jugut and the Rama just takes out
8940s	another Rama
8941s	so Canal's Navy is significantly
8946s	weakened
8949s	now yeah the is almost dead
8953s	but yeah but drut is almost down and
8957s	Cano is pressuring worse on land now
8961s	well yeah that's true but canel doesn't
8965s	have many units in Port if you
8968s	actually yeah cleaning up his Navy
8972s	slowly and
8974s	Y there is a good reason for this as
8978s	well like if you look at um Kenna's
8980s	Mainland he has one possible Port
8984s	spot if he does a grow a city down
8988s	here like he just doesn't have any more
8991s	opportunities to put units into water so
8994s	effectively I think he's just producing
8996s	from this city down here and this one up
9000s	here that's all his Naval Force
9001s	meanwhile Force uses a port up here and
9004s	two ports here I guess he just produce
9008s	from this city and then whatever he
9010s	feels like from the other
9017s	cities regardless like Kel is moving in
9020s	deep into's territory
9024s	here
9026s	can
9029s	giant does he have a monument actually
9033s	canor POA
9035s	giant he has 31
9040s	stars
9043s	stars he use the Gate of power yet I
9047s	don't see the Gate of maybe on this no
9050s	use
9051s	what oh he should still have the Gate of
9053s	power he could definitely hini is giant
9057s	if um but
9059s	can oh no he he he has he has climbing
9063s	so no uh yeah not possible yeah ah yeah
9067s	right climbing and construction that's
9070s	expensive yeah like if construction you
9073s	can place wind here but when he only has
9075s	four stars left mhm
9078s	yeah and
9081s	what happens
9089s	instead here War doesn't un Siege the
9092s	city at all and picks up
9095s	hunting
9097s	ah makes giant there
9101s	wait does he not have a construction yet
9105s	no he does not have construction oh
9108s	that's that's unfortunate pel is moving
9111s	in very deep here like it's looking
9114s	pretty good for him right
9117s	now yeah has a giant almost next to the
9121s	capital but he is losing the water
9125s	control yeah step by
9127s	step kind was getting
9132s	more and here V challenging the city
9135s	with his own giant he just
9137s	made um up here no he can't kill
9143s	this like this tra this just has to feel
9149s	bad
9152s	yeah and like his Naval force is just
9155s	slowly
9157s	dying yeah that better
9159s	on are getting
9163s	harassed the giant is almost theread too
9174s	like he's upgrading four HP rafts to
9176s	ramas now he's immediately upgrading RS
9179s	ramas mm it's not looking
9184s	good yeah and can you can you un siege
9188s	that
9189s	City force is just killing so much stuff
9192s	here Force decides to
9194s	Landing mhm yeah I think he's losing but
9197s	C is there
9201s	um that's 11 HP giant killer 13
9206s	HP let's ask
9208s	calculator probably not I think he would
9211s	have done it okay I'll ask so we are
9215s	well up construction before taking back
9218s	these
9219s	cities yeah makes sense
9224s	that's he loses this one in exchange but
9227s	gets two cities for one I think that's
9229s	not a bad
9231s	trade and his opponent also lost Naval
9235s	control so what were the numbers Giants
9239s	attacking
9242s	giant attacking giant was 13 giant was
9247s	11 and the other one was 13 so attacking
9250s	was 11 yeah okay yep yeah and then I
9255s	highly doubt it can kill it but still a
9258s	lot of damage for uh so the 13 HP giant
9262s	stays with
9263s	one yeah so if you are unsure unsure
9267s	whether you kill your opponent go to PO
9270s	calculator and it will tell you
9274s	everything yeah okay so now we got the
9278s	answer that's closer than I
9282s	thought well giant deal a lot of
9286s	damage canel is going for another Giant
9292s	pretty expensive one but I guess you
9294s	can't do much else like we we're really
9297s	starting to see a problem he only has
9298s	two ports mhm and sitting on the
9310s	ports and now one of the ports is
9313s	blocked actually yeah like he has
9317s	basically that
9327s	goes a little bit of a standoff so forse
9331s	uses his shines in
9343s	defense yeah Kenna is taking aquatis now
9346s	like he's really thinking about how do I
9349s	make my force is any stronger like
9351s	realistically maybe he should have for
9353s	Defender a long time for Defenders a
9356s	long time ago
9358s	mhm aquatis does s similar job but it's
9361s	obviously best better to have um
9364s	Defenders and then get
9367s	artism does a warrior rammer get killed
9370s	by a scout and a and a rammer if it
9374s	has uh defense bonus yeah I think just
9378s	barely if both the attackers are full HP
9381s	Scout and rammer should kill defense
9384s	with the rmer yeah so he basically gets
9387s	an advantage only on the uh Jugger not
9391s	with the defense
9393s	boost that's so the only interaction
9396s	with his defense boost actually
9397s	mattresses if for's units are weak or if
9402s	force is attacking with Juggernaut so it
9403s	doesn't actually do as much as it maybe
9405s	seems like M yeah Defenders would have
9409s	been better but they are more costly and
9411s	now V just sieges the
9418s	city yeah and can of has to use the oh
9423s	no I I don't think it was a good good
9426s	play
9429s	too oh
9432s	maybe let's look at this Kel is getting
9436s	sieged down here M so what can now ends
9440s	up doing is UN siing with a full HP
9444s	rammer that means the
9448s	ram I think what um he should have done
9451s	is um use with seven HP ramama and lash
9455s	damage from a juggernaut M to kill the
9458s	rider and then like I don't know use the
9460s	rammer to Ram the Scout for
9463s	example would be a better trade I would
9466s	say or the raft like he's going very
9470s	aggressively with this I'm not sure if
9472s	this is going to work out maybe he was a
9474s	bit desperate
9476s	but yeah this point it's really
9480s	difficult can can actually can B
9482s	actually Siege
9484s	the no CU
9490s	okay like once again can spe siing that
9494s	City with jaggernaut but the problem is
9497s	now that the jaggernaut is out of the
9498s	water
9500s	yeah versus Navy like basically doesn't
9503s	exist
9504s	anymore and he gets archery which maybe
9507s	would have been useful if he had that a
9509s	long time ago once again because the
9512s	archers can help hit the
9517s	Navy but here VOR
9522s	probably has enough to okay so he's not
9524s	hinging like how does Kel stop this shun
9528s	there yeah
9530s	one HP ra being upgraded to Rama like
9533s	we're at this point now 2 roads may
9537s	probably should have got that a long
9538s	time AG as well that's very desperate
9542s	M yeah course City once
9547s	[Music]
9550s	again at this point can he only has one
9553s	giant up there left wait that's funny
9556s	have you seen this
9558s	before what
9561s	the giant standing on the bridge is
9562s	defense boosted because of aquatis ah
9565s	okay yeah yeah I heard about that so
9568s	yeah I think it's also a bug it
9572s	shouldn't be like that I mean
9574s	technically
9576s	he in water it's in the water so no he's
9580s	above water it's like I don't know if
9582s	you know how bridges work
9584s	so yeah reality the water I mean you're
9588s	not in water when on when when on a
9592s	bridge yeah so I I would say it's it's a
9595s	bug and the same thing I I don't know if
9598s	you know that uh uh all those uh
9603s	Airborne units like dragons and uh
9606s	what's the name of the the psyche they
9609s	get yeah they get
9612s	the um the bonuses on uh uh on the
9617s	mountains when you have climbing which I
9619s	I think is also kind of you know weird
9623s	because they
9626s	air huh they might be landing between
9630s	the turns and then we start flying again
9633s	no no like they are flying all the time
9636s	so I would I would uh take the the bonus
9640s	from them for but how would the warrior
9642s	smack a dragon then if dragon is like I
9644s	don't know how high yeah they must be
9647s	landing after they attack
9650s	yeah yes you're right yeah but anyway I
9654s	think uh having a bonus as on on the
9657s	mountain being an Airborne unit is uh is
9660s	also not shouldn't be permitted but
9665s	anyway okay so uh what about this game
9669s	what what do you think we're not quite
9671s	done yet turn it's last M I think we see
9675s	a nice Siege from B here
9678s	and yeah
9680s	yeah just completely kills Kenna's Navy
9684s	the except with the exception of this
9686s	one ramama down here mhm but like now
9689s	he's just down to one port and yeah he
9693s	decides it's not winable anymore yeah
9697s	that's fa yeah at this point is Seven
9701s	Cities versus four
9706s	so okay so your thoughts on this game
9709s	what went wrong
9711s	for uh for
9713s	the
9715s	turquoise
9717s	player well I think what I said before
9720s	the he could have not lost the city on
9724s	up north if I they placed the monument
9728s	there that was for sure a big
9731s	misplay and on the water side I think it
9736s	should have gone for something like
9738s	Defenders first
9741s	uh much faster
9743s	because I mean that's the way to to have
9748s	10 care units and I think at the start
9751s	when I'm not sure about that Port really
9754s	I mean it could be good
9756s	but you need the economy to to get on
9759s	the water really the the thing you could
9762s	try to do is uh try to go for starfish
9767s	but uh yeah that on Luck get a lot of
9771s	starfish and I guess you probably would
9774s	have needed bombers if he wants to play
9776s	for Navy control like that most was the
9780s	beginning yeah that's true and also
9782s	obviously not having the PS there is
9785s	well wasn't that starfish down here so
9788s	that's maybe a bit unlucky as well mhm
9791s	yeah starfish were up here which were
9795s	unreachable yeah but still had gone for
9798s	that Starfish at the turn the turn after
9800s	he could have taken uh I'm not sure if
9804s	he actually had enough stars but what
9806s	was the cost of uh navigation at this
9809s	point it should be 13 stars so if you
9811s	get eight back you're only paying five
9814s	stars for yeah mhm that yeah that could
9817s	have been a
9820s	play like another thing I was thinking
9823s	about is was going into the water at all
9826s	right play mhm
9831s	I guess yeah maybe maybe pushing through
9833s	the land with the with the bridges in
9835s	the there in the yeah like right here
9838s	you know here's the land and then over
9840s	here you see the shoreline so you know
9842s	there's land so you know for sure that
9844s	there's a bridge possibility yeah
9849s	mhm and yeah and she still decides to
9853s	build a port and like what I was
9856s	wondering is right he gets a start ruin
9859s	in turn six mhm imagine if instead of
9863s	sailing it's just I don't know
9866s	construction or riding roads and then
9869s	like he goes construction riding roads
9874s	eventually he gets shs and then builds
9877s	Bridges get across the ocean like maybe
9879s	that would have been good
9888s	mhm yes so here definitely this one
9890s	mistake
9892s	where um the turquoise thought that he's
9896s	safe uh with this warri with those
9898s	warriors uh around his
9902s	City I don't even think that the scouts
9907s	were this bad because like the scouts
9909s	allow him to deny Wars uh from taking
9912s	the
9914s	cities yeah but eventually he went uh he
9917s	went kind of you know exploring instead
9919s	of denying so I don't know he was like a
9923s	bit all over the place so investing more
9926s	I think he has take neutal City like
9928s	it's just too much income he's missing
9930s	out on
9931s	under yeah but what I'm saying what I'm
9934s	saying is like he had overall you know
9937s	four Naval units so he easily could have
9940s	denied Force those two ports and he
9944s	instead of went uh you know for
9949s	sorry for
9952s	exploration and um got this one city in
9956s	the in the in the South
9958s	but um I think
9961s	um
9965s	delaying getting uh those Sports by by
9968s	vorce was was much more important
9971s	because otherwise it was just the just a
9974s	bridge uh bridge game for for for
9977s	vce yeah I could have tried to actually
9980s	play only Rider hood and attack yeah but
9983s	then it's it's much much more difficult
9985s	because you you only have two two uh two
9989s	spots where you can place Bridges so I
9991s	think uh with some Naval units you can
9994s	still you know defend it but yeah it it
9998s	turned out differently mhm I'm not sure
10001s	if sending a scout down here was as bad
10005s	as you label it
10007s	because it's pretty common that there
10010s	are decent amount of ocean
10014s	ruins and if you find one ruin down
10017s	there it already has paid off
10021s	basically mhm and maybe reveal a lot of
10025s	starfish so I don't think this was bad
10028s	or that bad yeah it was a gamble I'm not
10031s	saying it was it was bad but uh me being
10035s	uh in his shoes I would have denied the
10038s	the ports and then when I had like you
10041s	know four Scouts around the uh the ports
10044s	uh protecting the The Villages I would
10046s	send uh more uh down there so rather
10051s	playing the long game instead of you
10052s	know like kind of moving around and uh
10057s	uh and uh actually giving Wars both of
10061s	those uh those
10064s	Villages yeah I believe the main reason
10067s	he went there was for the Giant on this
10069s	Capital well Force didn't actually get
10072s	to city until very long I
10077s	think but the problem was um I mean yuk
10080s	so said it
10082s	earlier um the giant could have also
10085s	been up here and seems like um Canal did
10089s	not account at all for possibility of
10092s	war sieging the
10094s	city and then um having could you switch
10098s	to to his Vision can we see the how yeah
10102s	the bridge actually I'm not
10105s	sure perspective yeah only from Kel's
10109s	perspective yeah right now I'm watching
10111s	from Kel's perspective oh jeez
10114s	like yeah you could see the how how can
10117s	you not account on for that it's
10121s	like yeah maybe it didn't have enough
10124s	but maybe he didn't he you know couldn't
10127s	have accounted for this one uh one Rider
10129s	hitting the the warrior in
10131s	the in the back but
10134s	like I don't know six HP Warrior then
10140s	you're expecting to get Siege again the
10141s	turn after yeah so it was very very like
10147s	uh you know careless like I think this
10149s	was actually the wars won the game or
10152s	got into good
10154s	position yeah because then uh you know
10158s	the the teal had to you know fight on
10160s	like two
10161s	fronts uh and G So like um sacrifice a
10166s	lot to get the city back right instead
10170s	of uh building up his uh his
10173s	Navy so yeah mhm there's another
10177s	critical
10178s	thing Wars wasn't five cities before he
10183s	couldn't really get the city down here
10185s	because kenel kept on denying it with
10187s	Scouts mhm but by getting the city up
10190s	here he got a six city which allows him
10193s	um to
10195s	get yeah smart move
10198s	mhm because now he gets with City he
10200s	needs one road to connect laa as well to
10203s	Road Network M so that's also like
10207s	Snowball Effect that happened due to
10209s	this and yeah obviously then Wars ended
10211s	up using the grand Bazar to making a
10213s	giant in that City mhm yeah I was
10217s	actually quite surprised that he lost
10219s	the this city that he got from the from
10222s	uh turquoise but
10224s	anyway I got distracted for a moment
10228s	yeah I lost this SE yeah the one
10230s	Northeast
10232s	mhm but I think what ended up happening
10234s	was that canel sent like so many units
10237s	up there m and neglected water a little
10240s	bit yeah yeah yeah so that's what that
10241s	was my point that because of that he pay
10246s	attention to that this can kept on um
10250s	having Max production inside the port
10253s	because if he didn't that would
10256s	be yeah something critical to point out
10265s	mhm for now the
10268s	port has produced every
10273s	turn but it's
10277s	probably like need
10279s	Pro I
10284s	think
10286s	yeah I don't think blame we can blame
10289s	him for his support
10291s	efficiency mhm yeah maybe maybe uh also
10295s	he should have considered this city in
10297s	the East you know border growing and
10301s	then uh he would have had three spots
10305s	for ports yeah but it's very expensive
10307s	no yeah I know it's like I'm not saying
10309s	it's a it's an easy thing to do I guess
10311s	you could place one Monument there and
10313s	then it's cheaper afterwards mhm yeah
10317s	maybe with the killer
10320s	Monument yeah anyway so here it's a lot
10323s	of things
10325s	happened and um it was
10330s	quite quite a match so it it wasn't like
10333s	a straightforward one mistake or well um
10340s	the other option obviously would have
10341s	been get archery and use archers to
10344s	support your Navy because you only yeah
10346s	yeah they are cheap yeah mhm and The
10349s	Archers would also be a better way to
10351s	deal with giant
10353s	mhm yeah
10357s	exactly any any other thoughts about
10360s	this
10366s	game I got nothing to add mm yeah me
10370s	neither okay um we have
10374s	one uh one request from our
10378s	viewer a
10381s	fellow uh fellow YouTuber so uh my lump
10386s	I'm sending
10389s	you a game on their channel so let's see
10393s	if we
10393s	[Music]
10395s	can uh if we can it this the the game
10400s	they sent us right yeah so
10403s	uh L poop Warrior send us a
10408s	question and the question is I will put
10411s	it in the
10414s	chat so that's
10417s	the that's the question I need help
10421s	understanding how to play better at the
10423s	end of the game when uh facing Giants
10426s	they are very strong I'm not sure how to
10428s	to deal with them the difficulty started
10430s	in the middle of the
10433s	game so that's their
10438s	question and I guess we have a game for
10441s	that
10442s	right yeah so uh could you uh could you
10447s	switch or like I can present my screen
10450s	link for a game yeah so they they I send
10454s	you a link in this private
10456s	chat it's a YouTube link
10459s	yeah I know it's like uh probably it's
10463s	it's it's also a way to promote the
10465s	channel yeah so it's uh it's it's not a
10468s	game link I I know we are happy to
10472s	support fellow polyopia channels
10476s	so uh I'm pretty sure it's the wrong
10479s	link because it just links me to a live
10482s	stream VI are doing right now oh okay
10487s	okay so
10489s	uh
10491s	yeah yeah so I don't have anything else
10494s	so one one link is uh to something and
10498s	but but if you say it's uh it's our
10501s	stream then it's uh yeah so maybe maybe
10505s	let's um let's give a few advice in
10509s	general what what to do with the with
10511s	the Giants uh what are the best
10513s	strategies against them what would you
10515s	say well use rench units mhm
10521s	yeah early G archers obviously and if
10525s	you can get them CS are
10528s	just counter for attack is just melting
10532s	through those
10534s	giants yeah so we actually we we had a
10538s	good example in this game three or four
10541s	right when yeah the with when got got
10545s	catapults and uh and shredded uh his
10549s	opponent's
10551s	um Giants so yeah so giant so catapults
10555s	are very good also archers right if you
10558s	have enough of them uh it takes uh 10
10562s	archers to to kill a
10564s	giant so but it doesn't have to be 10
10567s	Archer hits yeah for sure yes you have
10570s	yeah if you
10572s	have mhm if you have support of Warriors
10575s	or or um or riders that it's see even
10579s	better uh but in general it it takes 10
10582s	archers to to kill a
10585s	giant as you saw also in our stream you
10588s	can uh you can do a h Houdini that's a
10591s	good good strategy to to get rid of a
10594s	giant without any any Dam damage or
10598s	almost any
10601s	damage game changing
10604s	many and in general have another example
10608s	here not really um okay let me add you
10612s	to game mhm yeah this was a very crazy
10618s	game mhm yeah so we
10621s	see but it's a good way like we both not
10625s	very
10626s	developed and like I'm like right now I
10629s	have units that are very bad against
10632s	giant so which color are
10635s	you um I am green
10638s	okay like we both have a giant M
10642s	and but he's marching with a giant
10645s	towards my city mhm so if you have your
10649s	own giant what you can do to buy time is
10652s	um well use your own giant to
10655s	defend mhm and then there are
10660s	archers um so basically you see a
10662s	combination of both red
10667s	here and not the best micro from me but
10670s	that's okay
10672s	mhm um so
10674s	basically now I'm like slowly chipping
10678s	down with giant with
10680s	archers um like he has two giants here I
10683s	have one
10688s	mhm um yeah if you have weak units you
10692s	don't need anymore you can just suicide
10694s	them because in this case I wanted more
10696s	population
10703s	i' like this is also a common situation
10705s	you face okay your opponent got a
10708s	knight and because you went for like a
10710s	ton of
10712s	archers um yeah so I think in this turn
10714s	I still take a risk thinking that he
10718s	doesn't have enough to reach
10720s	me but in the following
10723s	turns well that's respect
10728s	it's a really big chain if you can get
10735s	it yeah but as you can see like now both
10738s	the gies are pretty weak and I think
10740s	they both die in the first one in three
10743s	and the other one in five or six hits I
10748s	believe yeah if he could destroy his
10751s	port and put a bridge
10753s	there H he doesn't have road yet at this
10756s	point that's mainly why I'm playing like
10758s	a
10762s	okay yeah but the general rule about
10765s	Giants it's uh you should you should get
10768s	more Giants than your opponent and then
10770s	you win but obviously it's not always
10775s	working um yeah but yeah get more Giants
10780s	than your
10783s	opponent yeah get more Giants or get
10787s	range
10789s	range units are like basically always
10791s	good to
10796s	have like a good army consists of some
10799s	range units some Medi units range units
10802s	to chip the units and then Medi units to
10804s	finish him
10806s	off
10811s	y okay um so no more questions uh so I
10817s	think this time we can say good night uh
10822s	so thank you guys for uh coming to to
10826s	the channel and sharing your thoughts on
10828s	the on the the buy games and thanks
10832s	everyone for for watching uh so stay
10835s	tuned uh on like I said on Thursday we
10839s	have a big uh an reveal so um Aquarian
10844s	rework will be will be
10847s	released um um and we'll also probably
10850s	have a have a live stream with some
10854s	special guests
10855s	so uh yeah it's like join us really
10859s	because it will be big I can tell you
10861s	that nothing more but
10865s	yeah so thanks again my lamp and Yuko
10869s	and uh we'll see you in
10873s	probably sometime in the
10877s	future thanks for
10880s	games thanks good night have a nice day
10884s	everyone or night bye bye

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