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| 97s | yeah technical difficulties uh I I guess |
| 100s | you did not hear what I said so again uh |
| 104s | welcome to the stream All Good People of |
| 107s | polytopia um today we have a first |
| 110s | polium highlight stream for you I we'll |
| 113s | be reviewing Kiko games uh my name is |
| 116s | Adam uh you might know me from the poly |
| 119s | champs as g a |
| 121s | uh today uh with me are good friends of |
| 124s | polyopia tribes Reds and maradon wel |
| 128s | come to the stream |
| 130s | guys yo what's up everyone my name is |
| 134s | maradon I'm from the official polytopia |
| 137s | Discord I'm also moderator there and I'm |
| 140s | happy to have a great time with you my |
| 142s | favorite time uh my sorry my favorite |
| 144s | tribe is the simanti tribe you're all |
| 146s | going to hate me for it I'm still going |
| 148s | to like it and I'm super excited to |
| 151s | review those games with |
| 153s | you hello my name is Ratz I am mostly |
| 156s | known in the pulley Champions Scot I a |
| 158s | competitive player I've been playing |
| 160s | this game competitively for about a year |
| 162s | now I've been in touch with this game |
| 164s | for almost seven years but yeah just |
| 167s | competitively playing it for a year now |
| 169s | and I love sebasi because I think |
| 172s | they're an all around great tribe to |
| 173s | play with Texs that you usually don't |
| 176s | see and it's also a very strong economy |
| 179s | tribe what do you think about simanti |
| 183s | people I mean as long as the map is not |
| 185s | super small I'll be fine |
| 189s | okay okay so I guess we have peace uh |
| 192s | between you um yeah so uh so today the |
| 196s | the uh the stream will go as follows |
| 199s | first we will review six games right |
| 202s | guys uh exactly MH and then uh as you |
| 207s | saw on IND theana announcements in many |
| 211s | places on Discord and um on the channel |
| 214s | we will review some games uh submitted |
| 217s | by by our audience um if you still want |
| 221s | to uh want your game to be reviewed you |
| 224s | have some |
| 225s | questions um you know anything about |
| 228s | about polyopia so you can uh submit your |
| 232s | your game I will put the the link to to |
| 235s | the form uh in the uh in the comments |
| 239s | and uh once the kiko games are are done |
| 243s | uh we will review some of the other |
| 247s | games and answer your your questions so |
| 249s | that's that's pretty much it and uh |
| 251s | we'll be uh wrapping up around the two |
| 256s | hour maybe two and a half hour |
| 259s | mark |
| 261s | yeah so we uh we are we are ready to uh |
| 266s | to start uh I'm |
| 268s | adding uh r that's |
| 271s | his sounds good screen so what's the |
| 275s | first the first game our first game will |
| 278s | be from the players Voris versus harai |
| 281s | they played on a Lakes |
| 284s | map um and yeah was an interesting game |
| 288s | uh sorry uh maradon once again uh is |
| 292s | this the one uh nope this is not the |
| 295s | right game the game is from Boris versus |
| 298s | harisai ah okay sorry yeah |
| 301s | yeah yeah maybe to get started with |
| 303s | that's the correct one yes |
| 307s | first the policeum the way it works is |
| 309s | you have three weeks of different like |
| 312s | the same tribe but different Maps where |
| 314s | people play each other and I don't know |
| 317s | the order of which uh those have been |
| 320s | selected but it was continents lakes and |
| 323s | archipelago and this one strip was Kik |
| 326s | we have |
| 328s | seen uh like the way it works also out |
| 331s | of these polium tournaments you'll have |
| 334s | to play them and in order to qualify for |
| 336s | the monthly Grand Final I would call |
| 339s | them you have to place well and the best |
| 342s | 16 players out of all these tournaments |
| 344s | in that 3-we period will be invited to |
| 347s | that monthly tournament and this is one |
| 349s | of those qualifications game if I call |
| 351s | him like that Lakes this week and or |
| 354s | when from when when it was played yeah |
| 357s | let's get start all right let's go I |
| 359s | would say we could turn the shared fog |
| 362s | on in our settings so people get a bit |
| 366s | that's great oh I already broke it yeah |
| 368s | and before before we start it so one one |
| 371s | last word from me if you have any any |
| 373s | questions uh regarding the the games I |
| 376s | will pass those to our commentators so |
| 379s | don't hesitate to to ask uh anytime |
| 383s | thank |
| 385s | you all right so both players have Kiku |
| 389s | and this mirror match okay surpris you |
| 391s | kind of could have guessed that from the |
| 393s | title but yeah both very good players |
| 396s | from what I've seen you already know |
| 398s | it's going to be an exciting match when |
| 399s | you see those |
| 401s | two yeah it's really really good I like |
| 405s | these two different openings that we |
| 406s | have here riding with just one Warrior |
| 408s | immediately into riding and the other |
| 410s | player going into the water like on turn |
| 413s | three or four already that's a very |
| 416s | risky start in my opinion because if you |
| 418s | don't find anything across the water or |
| 420s | you're just stumbling right into your |
| 421s | opponent you've wasted all these stars |
| 423s | and have and are in behind an economy |
| 426s | hugely |
| 427s | right I mean you can use those parts to |
| 430s | upgrade your cities like V does here but |
| 432s | also if you look at the position here V |
| 435s | doesn't really have anywhere to go like |
| 437s | you see towards the north of his Capital |
| 439s | there's absolutely nothing to go with |
| 441s | units wise and down south it would be |
| 444s | actually faster to be on the water when |
| 446s | you want to expand here and on the other |
| 449s | hand for the pink Kiko play here rers |
| 452s | does also make perfect sense because |
| 455s | well sure you might have a naval battle |
| 456s | later but expansion wise you have a lot |
| 459s | of land to work with so that makes a lot |
| 462s | of sense yeah oh also those animal spawn |
| 465s | rids For uon Colored Kiku they are just |
| 469s | awesome man that's just what you love to |
| 474s | see did I just did I just catch this |
| 476s | right they saw the mountain they reseted |
| 479s | climbing was research climbing and |
| 482s | apparently probably misclicked and |
| 484s | missed the mountain I guess see that's |
| 486s | top tier gameplay right there you can't |
| 487s | say nothing about that that's painful |
| 490s | yeah although you could argue if this |
| 492s | was on the mountain Ru it would actually |
| 494s | be safe to not get on it because chances |
| 499s | are are of you getting kicked off it is |
| 501s | relatively high but on a mountain R you |
| 503s | have a defense bonus so it takes three |
| 505s | units to kick him off let's just see |
| 507s | what he does in the next turn with this |
| 508s | Warrior yeah see he moves onto the ruin |
| 511s | right it was just a |
| 514s | misclick ah yeah yeah it was maybe I was |
| 517s | thinking trying to delay the meeting |
| 518s | Stars here but uh I don't not really I |
| 521s | mean the the threshold score was already |
| 523s | met |
| 527s | right I think so all right were there |
| 530s | were 10 points below the 2,000 score I |
| 533s | thr in case you didn't know if you meet |
| 535s | somebody that has less than a thousand |
| 537s | score then you'll get three stars if |
| 540s | it's between 1,000 and 2,000 I think the |
| 543s | threshold is 1,5 and 2,000 you'll get |
| 546s | five stars and between 2005 and 3,000 |
| 550s | you get Seven Stars for the next th000 |
| 552s | it's nine stars and everything above the |
| 554s | next th000 after it's 11 Stars so we |
| 558s | actually very close of getting Seven |
| 559s | Stars for meeting them here but it's |
| 561s | it's going to be five not |
| 563s | seven you |
| 566s | mean they're already expanding quite |
| 569s | well well I mean we all know Kiku is a |
| 572s | strong tribe uh economy-wise but |
| 575s | honestly I never had 14 stars inade in |
| 578s | any of my |
| 581s | games although you you do have to |
| 583s | mention that this was a population R |
| 585s | giving them resources and also a star |
| 587s | ruin from the other player being able to |
| 591s | further upgrade their economy here and |
| 595s | we already have some boats on the water |
| 597s | here and already combat is happening in |
| 599s | turn |
| 601s | we did see that from from V's point of |
| 603s | view we did see the Riders so it makes |
| 605s | sense to try and use this early Naval |
| 608s | advantage to actually also assert the |
| 610s | pressure on water to just get the |
| 612s | control over because rder openings are |
| 615s | simply going to be slower when it comes |
| 617s | to the Navy and yeah we get Archy from |
| 620s | the ruin on the |
| 622s | water but doesn't matter we already have |
| 624s | a first shine on Turnal |
| 626s | 10 explore which is not fully shaped but |
| 629s | it will still go up and reveal some good |
| 633s | information oh and also if you're |
| 635s | wondering what's going on when an |
| 637s | Explorer walks into seemingly discovered |
| 639s | land that's because we have shared Fork |
| 641s | enabled and this basically means okay |
| 643s | now we don't have shared Fork enabled |
| 645s | anymore uh this basically means that we |
| 648s | see all tiles that have been discovered |
| 650s | by either player so if one player has |
| 653s | discovered it will be shown even the if |
| 655s | the other one hasn't and the first Siege |
| 660s | yeah so we did see here that well St has |
| 662s | perfect vision over basically everything |
| 664s | that's happening here with I think was |
| 667s | one |
| 668s | Explorer and then the mountain |
| 671s | right I think so yes there was three |
| 674s | workshops here we do get a giant The |
| 676s | Siege was more to deny the Stars than |
| 678s | anything else really it was not going to |
| 680s | hold they knew that they were just like |
| 682s | grabbing the kill taking the light house |
| 684s | going around people doing that |
| 686s | sacrificing units just to ruin their |
| 688s | opponent's turn I I hate that so much if |
| 691s | I catch you doing that in one of your |
| 693s | games against me I am going to roast you |
| 696s | for it |
| 701s | okay moving three of our units onto the |
| 704s | starfish to make it very cheap and cost |
| 707s | efficient to grab the bomber syst like |
| 711s | the tech the navigation we don't |
| 714s | actually take it we Siege the city and |
| 717s | this is a very very crucial point in |
| 719s | this game because it's going to be a |
| 721s | Houdini a Houdini in case you didn't |
| 725s | know what a Houdini is basically when |
| 727s | you Siege a city with a unit this unit |
| 730s | can be pushed out of set City when giant |
| 733s | pushing you all know that I'm sure about |
| 734s | it but if there is no tile the unit can |
| 737s | be pushed to just as seen here because |
| 739s | they're all blocked the enemy giant that |
| 742s | spawns will just replace the unit and |
| 744s | your giant will get virtually deleted |
| 747s | which of course is a huge setback when |
| 749s | you're attacking like is right now yeah |
| 752s | because you can also be pushed to to the |
| 755s | enem ports right you don't have block |
| 758s | the the water |
| 760s | tiles it's also very interesting because |
| 762s | obviously Giants are very very good in |
| 765s | siing because they are so hard to kill |
| 768s | right like they are they have so much HP |
| 771s | that unless you have like a ranged unit |
| 775s | or the giant yourself it's not going to |
| 777s | be really that easy to kill them you |
| 779s | need 10 Warriors to throw at a giant to |
| 782s | in order to kill a full HP giant like we |
| 785s | don't see 10 units here however we do |
| 788s | see a giant and especially in a legs |
| 790s | kind of map where you don't need to |
| 791s | block all eight tiles and it's difficult |
| 794s | to get around that set giant uh it's |
| 797s | Lakes we only have six tiles on this |
| 799s | specific City that they need to block |
| 801s | because it can't be pushed on the water |
| 804s | and also let me use this beautiful |
| 806s | moment to plug another simanti because |
| 809s | you only need four boosted attx supports |
| 811s | to take out a full HP giant if it |
| 812s | doesn't have any Shield so |
| 816s | yesti |
| 820s | propaganda oh what a nice s there oh |
| 823s | that's going to be of level oh what's |
| 825s | that a level five okay it's level four |
| 827s | right now but it's going to be level |
| 829s | five if they choose to keep that Forest |
| 831s | which I think they do but yeah this just |
| 834s | puts to show why Kiku is such an insane |
| 836s | tribe the economy is just massive and |
| 839s | All the lumber huts and somls and all |
| 843s | these good spots and the general the |
| 845s | overall awesome resource distribution |
| 847s | just make this tribe an absolute monster |
| 850s | to |
| 852s | fight right now I would like to point |
| 855s | out the position that we have right now |
| 857s | cuz who okay let me just ask this |
| 860s | question like straight up who do you |
| 862s | think is winning right |
| 864s | now from this position well who does |
| 868s | have like looks have to have the better |
| 869s | position |
| 870s | here from the noobs perspective which is |
| 874s | mine uh I would say that arai the pink |
| 878s | Kiku is winning right now I mean he |
| 880s | obviously has a lot more units in place |
| 884s | he has more Giants he already has some |
| 885s | in the water he definitely has land |
| 887s | superiority on the left half of the map |
| 890s | so I'd say uh Pink Kiku is winning right |
| 894s | now I would I don't know I I would |
| 897s | argue you know the the green Kiku still |
| 900s | has uh kind of water superiority they |
| 904s | have more more rafts on on water so even |
| 908s | though that the pink has managed to put |
| 911s | one giant uh uh in the port you know if |
| 916s | if green goes for example rammers this |
| 918s | this giant won won't last long and |
| 921s | sieging with uh with riders you know |
| 924s | it's also not very effective because |
| 928s | it's you know you just need to to to |
| 930s | Scouts and your city is is is free |
| 933s | again what I would argue right now is if |
| 936s | it wasn't for the Houdini here on this |
| 939s | city I would argue |
| 942s | that green has a superior as well right |
| 945s | now it doesn't look like it could still |
| 947s | argue because we do actually have |
| 948s | navigation here from from Vos so in this |
| 951s | turn specifically we're going to see a |
| 952s | lot of uh naal control because the bber |
| 957s | just do so much damage oh my God this |
| 960s | giant here underwater blocking this |
| 962s | giant from actually moving anything that |
| 964s | more than one tile so these unit are |
| 966s | fully safe he can't kill the jugernaut |
| 970s | however what we have going into the |
| 972s | favor of pink here not only did we just |
| 975s | hini a giant so we have one less giant |
| 977s | to deal with but we also have six cities |
| 980s | once we connect that Northern City we're |
| 981s | going to have another Monument the |
| 983s | network Monument because we have six |
| 985s | cities we can connect five to our |
| 986s | Capital plus if you look at this spot |
| 989s | north of of the bomber I don't know if |
| 991s | it's going to be crucial later on but |
| 992s | it's Can it can place a bridge here |
| 994s | right here you can place a bridge and V |
| 996s | can't do anything about it because he |
| 998s | chose population growth on his capital |
| 1000s | and can't claim that city as a tile |
| 1004s | so anybody can place a bridge there and |
| 1007s | nobody can remove it so that's going to |
| 1008s | be something probably going to see later |
| 1011s | I don't know honestly I actually haven't |
| 1012s | seen this game fully but wink |
| 1016s | wink okay looking at this |
| 1019s | yeah right now definitely pink because |
| 1021s | oh wow we have a visual bug how about |
| 1024s | you zoom out look at that lighthouse in |
| 1026s | the west awesome |
| 1029s | o yeah the sh F going going crazy cuz we |
| 1032s | did reveal it here exactly ah awesome |
| 1034s | okay now now it's fixed I'm surprised |
| 1038s | the bomber is still alive the giant |
| 1040s | right there is really working out for |
| 1041s | green Kiku yeah they couldn't move the |
| 1044s | Juggernaut at all because of the zone of |
| 1046s | control right I would can explain this |
| 1050s | zone of control the way it works is if |
| 1052s | you have a |
| 1053s | unit um moving into a unit okay that was |
| 1058s | probably the worst explanation I've had |
| 1060s | so every unit that you have has eight |
| 1062s | tiles around them that blocks them with |
| 1065s | zone of control meaning this jugernaut |
| 1067s | right now the 780 HP jugernaut has zone |
| 1070s | of control on all these eight tiles |
| 1071s | around them what does that mean if an |
| 1074s | opposing unit is going to move into that |
| 1076s | area it is going to move take up all the |
| 1079s | many movement slots for example if you |
| 1081s | have a rider that can move two tiles and |
| 1083s | you move into the zone of control of an |
| 1085s | enemy and you could still move a another |
| 1087s | tile CU you have two movement points but |
| 1089s | you only moved one tile it's going to |
| 1091s | take up the other movement point anyways |
| 1092s | CU you are in the opponent's zone of |
| 1094s | control and so that's what we saw here |
| 1097s | so |
| 1099s | even even if they wanted to they can for |
| 1103s | example move this Juggernaut down south |
| 1105s | because this Juggernaut is blocking it |
| 1107s | as well but we do have a you by the way |
| 1111s | now that we're talking about it RS what |
| 1113s | is your opinion on juggernauts are they |
| 1116s | better than Giants on land are they |
| 1119s | better than 40hp battleships which used |
| 1121s | to exist before the naval |
| 1123s | update are they worse are they different |
| 1126s | do they just serve a different purpose I |
| 1128s | feel like a lot of people are asking |
| 1130s | themselves this me included and I'd like |
| 1132s | to hear your opinion on this I really |
| 1135s | like the changes that we have when it |
| 1138s | comes to the way that Navy is played |
| 1141s | that we have a lot more diversity on |
| 1144s | water it's not just like on on you know |
| 1146s | how like on the end unit you can have |
| 1148s | archers you can have Riders you can have |
| 1150s | Warriors you can have Road swordsman de |
| 1153s | cloaks like everything on water on the |
| 1156s | water you were limited to just well |
| 1160s | Scouts bombers or like not Scout |
| 1162s | battleships uh what I call Scouts like |
| 1166s | the I I call them warriors with archers |
| 1169s | like you know that that kind of unit and |
| 1172s | the normal yeah that you had like that |
| 1175s | that did like only barely any damage and |
| 1177s | you had uh dingies if you wanted to put |
| 1180s | cloaks into the water but that was it |
| 1181s | you didn't have any diversity now with |
| 1183s | like ramas Scouts bombers Jack or maybe |
| 1188s | they were called boats I think yeah yeah |
| 1192s | exactly I don't know exactly how they |
| 1193s | were called but you have a lot more |
| 1195s | diversity in how you can play it the |
| 1197s | only thing I dislike about the current |
| 1200s | Navy right now is that whoever has the |
| 1203s | superior of the Navy it's going to be |
| 1205s | really difficult to take that AR from |
| 1207s | somebody like sure we have a pink here |
| 1209s | that's like economy wise a lot further |
| 1212s | ahead right you have a back leg to put |
| 1214s | bombers if you want you have catapults |
| 1216s | that are kind of safe and can defend as |
| 1218s | well but you effectively it's really |
| 1220s | difficult for them to get into the water |
| 1222s | here if they put anything under the |
| 1223s | water it's just going to get absolutely |
| 1225s | bombed and like they can't do anything |
| 1226s | about it and the longer the game Contin |
| 1229s | the more units we going to have upgraded |
| 1231s | on the water and the less of a chance |
| 1234s | have to get on it and that's like the |
| 1236s | one issue right now that I have with the |
| 1238s | current Navy but in general when it |
| 1240s | comes to |
| 1241s | diversity it's a big plus uh since we |
| 1244s | have we have a break I will jump in |
| 1246s | because there is a question on in the |
| 1249s | chat uh so Joe is asking uh is it better |
| 1253s | to have more troops but lower tchs uh |
| 1256s | say like riders or less troops but with |
| 1259s | higher Tech like |
| 1262s | Knights that is a very situational thing |
| 1266s | obviously in this case if you look at |
| 1267s | this position I don't even think they |
| 1269s | can see it if you look at their |
| 1272s | perspective what's the vision like I |
| 1274s | completely bucked it out you have to |
| 1275s | disagree for you have to they do |
| 1279s | actually see it mhm they see yeah they |
| 1283s | also might be aware that there's a |
| 1285s | bridge spot here maybe not I don't know |
| 1288s | to answer the question quickly I would |
| 1290s | say that in general having the right |
| 1292s | amount of units to control your opponent |
| 1295s | is important and those units can be any |
| 1297s | units so you you probably want to make |
| 1299s | them cheap but you in general should aim |
| 1301s | for higher value units like Knights or |
| 1304s | catapults especially Knights because you |
| 1307s | can just go Rogue amongst the enemy |
| 1308s | units with them but I'm not the expert |
| 1311s | here so uh let's just see what rat has |
| 1313s | to say about this I just wanted to put |
| 1314s | that out there it really depends also on |
| 1317s | the situation because |
| 1320s | if you grab a lot of tech to get higher |
| 1323s | star units on the on the on the world |
| 1327s | it's going to cost you a lot of stars |
| 1328s | right like him or them turning Riders |
| 1332s | here and being able to defend the cities |
| 1334s | if they were to attack like this city |
| 1337s | Camp Prestige because of the scatters |
| 1338s | and stuff it's going to be very tough |
| 1341s | for for V to actually do anything about |
| 1343s | it because you know they have all these |
| 1346s | units on the other hand |
| 1349s | if they didn't have all these units they |
| 1351s | could have maybe got archery or |
| 1352s | something else but then this like this |
| 1354s | attack archery would cost 16 Stars |
| 1356s | meaning that's like five Riders Less on |
| 1358s | the on the board like a lot less units |
| 1360s | to work with so you want to like balance |
| 1362s | the amount of tech that you take |
| 1364s | compared to the units that you train |
| 1366s | obviously to the later games you want to |
| 1367s | have more units but also stronger units |
| 1371s | on the field and it also is very wise if |
| 1374s | you can spend a few stars on units that |
| 1376s | actually protect your higher cost units |
| 1378s | for example a catapult is very strong |
| 1380s | but also very vulnerable so if you can |
| 1382s | block with the defender up front to deny |
| 1385s | any any sort of night chains or any form |
| 1387s | of you know attacks against those |
| 1389s | catapults you want to protect those as |
| 1391s | well so do you want to in ear game you |
| 1394s | want to protect your Rus with Warriors |
| 1395s | maybe so you can't easily be attacked |
| 1397s | with you know |
| 1400s | it's by the way yeah this is an perfect |
| 1404s | example of how high value units can be |
| 1407s | crucial to winning every game as you |
| 1410s | just said we get that bridge and we get |
| 1412s | a KN coming in I think this is a good |
| 1414s | time to resume the replay and we can see |
| 1417s | the enormous enormous damage this Knight |
| 1420s | does to the entire ping position just |
| 1423s | all units wiped out this is a chain |
| 1426s | where well over 50 stars just earned |
| 1429s | with a single night and of course with |
| 1431s | the siege on the capital there is |
| 1434s | absolutely nothing that pink Kiku can do |
| 1436s | anymore just one night and it wiped out |
| 1439s | his entire position securing a |
| 1442s | victory the reason I say higher value is |
| 1445s | not always the best play because this |
| 1448s | was like obviously a huge misplay them |
| 1450s | from for them to like saw the Knight |
| 1452s | right but they did not see the play that |
| 1454s | they could Place Bridge here cuz |
| 1456s | otherwise I would have played around |
| 1457s | that right if you then play around that |
| 1460s | from their position and split all these |
| 1463s | units into chains of two or something |
| 1464s | like that first of all the chains are |
| 1467s | not going to be going all the way |
| 1468s | through because they can't like this is |
| 1470s | only Bridge it can only go from from the |
| 1472s | East side but also if you split the |
| 1475s | chains and have like two Riders two |
| 1477s | Riders two Warriors the Knight is never |
| 1479s | going to get its value in retaliation of |
| 1483s | the cost right like the Knight cost |
| 1485s | eight stars and two Riders cost six so |
| 1488s | even if you go for it that shine isn't |
| 1490s | worth it right plus you have spent a lot |
| 1492s | of stars on the tech as well but in this |
| 1494s | case obviously it paid off and yeah also |
| 1498s | can we just take a moment to appreciate |
| 1500s | how long this game actually took I mean |
| 1502s | this was a what like a 256 tiles game |
| 1506s | and we took 21 turns to actually finish |
| 1508s | it even see it was even smaller I think |
| 1512s | that's just an awesome display of how |
| 1513s | long these matches can go and see I'm |
| 1516s | not a professional player but my matches |
| 1518s | don't last that long because at some |
| 1520s | point one player wins over the other one |
| 1523s | and we still got such a sudden win from |
| 1526s | warus uh with a night chain but it took |
| 1529s | 21 turns for him to get there this just |
| 1531s | puts to show how awesome these players |
| 1533s | are and how good the matches are we are |
| 1535s | seeing here yeah let's jump to the next |
| 1539s | one then let's go so the next one is |
| 1543s | also vse again versus i w WP uh it's on |
| 1550s | continents and this one is shorter |
| 1555s | actually yeah so some viewers will be |
| 1557s | very happy because they want to the the |
| 1559s | pirate skin so they are pirates as you |
| 1563s | see yes the areu by the way on the PO |
| 1567s | main Discord server our current monthly |
| 1570s | tribe contest is intertribal Wars which |
| 1573s | we can see right here with the two |
| 1576s | different Kiku skins so if you haven't |
| 1578s | already go click that link in the |
| 1580s | description and join our Discord server |
| 1582s | check it out we have a cool Community |
| 1584s | loads of stuff happening and let's get |
| 1586s | back to the game |
| 1591s | so what do you think so far how is the |
| 1594s | the game going well I think the yeah go |
| 1598s | ahead uh would you pause right now real |
| 1600s | quick thanks because I think a lot of |
| 1603s | stuff has happened and we should |
| 1605s | probably you at the go yeah maybe go |
| 1608s | back almost the end of the game this one |
| 1611s | is was short yeah what I noticed |
| 1613s | immediately right of the bat is they the |
| 1616s | what even what color is this I think |
| 1619s | it's sort of a teal color yeah like a |
| 1622s | IMO yeah IMO so so the so the IMA Kiko |
| 1626s | tribe chose to go with an Explorer in |
| 1629s | their first uh in the capital and they |
| 1631s | actually meet their opponent here for |
| 1632s | three stars which actually I would argue |
| 1636s | is not that good for them like should |
| 1638s | they see the map shape here but |
| 1640s | especially since they don't heavily have |
| 1641s | a village here and in any close vicinity |
| 1644s | the economy is going to be lacking and |
| 1646s | plus they don't really get a whole lot |
| 1648s | of meeting to make up for either so also |
| 1652s | progression is kind of going slow for |
| 1654s | the two tribes here I mean rter and six |
| 1657s | and uh I don't know about the green |
| 1659s | kicker right now but they've probably uh |
| 1662s | not even both gotten to Villages C IC uh |
| 1666s | green Kiku is about to capture his |
| 1668s | second village in turn six um so a game |
| 1672s | which is a bit more slow than the last |
| 1675s | one and it'll come to quite the quick |
| 1677s | end you'll see why |
| 1679s | soon but again you see how awesome just |
| 1683s | the economy for for Kiku is all the |
| 1687s | Leons and the forests and all of that we |
| 1692s | also did see a population R down here |
| 1694s | for V which with this Lighthouse and |
| 1697s | potentially some Port connections here |
| 1699s | if we get alongside the Northeast |
| 1702s | northwest corner of the map yeah so I |
| 1704s | would say this this s can you pause so |
| 1707s | this map is is not very even even |
| 1708s | because VOR has a has a lot of water |
| 1711s | access and his opponent is like you know |
| 1714s | he he has to go roads because otherwise |
| 1716s | he won't be able to to connect all his |
| 1719s | cities uh uh with the |
| 1724s | capital yeah that is also looking at |
| 1727s | wars's perspective in this situation |
| 1729s | could be quite interesting if we enable |
| 1731s | the fork for |
| 1736s | Wars uh yeah took because vce actually |
| 1741s | already sees te IMO te kiku's capital |
| 1745s | and he's going to prepare something to |
| 1748s | fight against that Capital because uh |
| 1751s | his opponent allowed him to get so close |
| 1753s | we'll see what exactly that is in a |
| 1757s | second I think just keeping watching |
| 1760s | with the fork as it is right now would |
| 1763s | be quite |
| 1765s | advised interesting choice of an |
| 1767s | Explorer here because we don't actually |
| 1769s | have sailing so the Explorer can't walk |
| 1772s | on the ocean but we do reveal some value |
| 1775s | information honestly that's actually |
| 1777s | I'll I'll take and also this is an |
| 1779s | important moment because Voris builds a |
| 1782s | bridge right here on the water and if |
| 1785s | you didn't know a bridge acts like a |
| 1787s | road tile which means that units get |
| 1789s | sort of accelerated when they move uh |
| 1791s | onto it which means they gain one more |
| 1794s | tile of movement and we'll see why that |
| 1797s | is important in in a second and you can |
| 1800s | already see the game won't last long |
| 1802s | some of you may even have already |
| 1804s | guessed what |
| 1805s | happens because voice sets up and |
| 1809s | executes a capital snipe perfectly here |
| 1812s | and there is absolutely nothing his |
| 1815s | opponent can do to stop this and because |
| 1818s | the match is domination it's instantly |
| 1820s | over the moment you capture the capital |
| 1822s | and his opponent just resigns yeah very |
| 1824s | smart Play It's Over |
| 1828s | okay up to next one all right our next |
| 1833s | match up will be um Force versus |
| 1837s | superficial |
| 1838s | intelligence |
| 1847s | um this is again |
| 1851s | continents um rats would you explain to |
| 1855s | the viewers and to me too uh what the |
| 1858s | means what this Daily Number Eight |
| 1860s | number two semi-finals means in the top |
| 1862s | where are we in the tournament currently |
| 1864s | who is playing against whom is this like |
| 1866s | a knockout tournament or uh do the pairs |
| 1870s | actually get a chance to play again if |
| 1872s | they lose |
| 1873s | here so the way that the police Team |
| 1876s | Works how I early described is you have |
| 1878s | these three weeks one week Lakes one |
| 1881s | week archipelago one week on continents |
| 1884s | for this Kiko tribe for this month where |
| 1887s | players can join daily tournaments uh I |
| 1890s | don't know exactly the schedule for it |
| 1892s | it's you can find it in the Challenger |
| 1894s | mode website when you look at the |
| 1896s | polyopia game you can find all the all |
| 1899s | information there yeah the link is in |
| 1900s | the description if you want to sign up |
| 1903s | for the latest polium I think this month |
| 1907s | is a Basi you can click the the link |
| 1910s | there and the players will play against |
| 1914s | each other in a single elimination |
| 1916s | bracket of 32 players |
| 1919s | no sorry was 16 players 16 players so |
| 1922s | you |
| 1923s | have round one 16 players round two |
| 1925s | eight players one three four players of |
| 1928s | quarterfinals one four semi-finals five |
| 1931s | rounds five is finals and which what |
| 1934s | that means |
| 1936s | is uh you'll play for the placement |
| 1939s | because the top seven placements out of |
| 1942s | all the polium from a month will count |
| 1945s | as your standing like if give you points |
| 1948s | and give you the standing later at the |
| 1951s | at the end of the month because the top |
| 1952s | 16 players out of those three weeks will |
| 1956s | be invited to the big Grand finals where |
| 1959s | everybody plays them you know they play |
| 1961s | themselves in a in the Grand Final I |
| 1964s | would say like in a 16 player groups |
| 1967s | like it's difference ear now then they |
| 1968s | change it up a bit |
| 1970s | but yeah it's like a qualification stage |
| 1973s | and this is the semi-finals and all of |
| 1975s | these games are just one game whoever |
| 1977s | wins go on except the finals that's a |
| 1980s | best of three so you have to win twice |
| 1981s | in order to win but this is a |
| 1983s | semi-finals of one of those daily |
| 1986s | tournaments on the continents map so |
| 1990s | yeah did I explain this hopefully oppos |
| 1995s | this explanation yes all clear let's |
| 1997s | focus on the on the spawns what do you |
| 1999s | think right so we have a continents game |
| 2002s | confidence is honestly one of those map |
| 2004s | types where you are forced to build a |
| 2006s | Navy right like on lakes you can play |
| 2007s | Riders you can Play Roads and for the |
| 2009s | most part on on lakes you're not always |
| 2011s | going to have a Navy you can sometimes |
| 2013s | you're going to have a Navy sometimes |
| 2014s | you're not but on continents unless we |
| 2017s | had a map type like last game where you |
| 2019s | could build Bridges and be really |
| 2020s | aggressive where you can have like you |
| 2022s | know a land mass connecting each other |
| 2025s | if you look at this map shape we still |
| 2027s | have also again a really wide river here |
| 2030s | but if this River wasn't that wide on |
| 2032s | contance you're going to be forced to |
| 2033s | build a Navy so right off the bat I |
| 2035s | would say that green has actually a |
| 2037s | slight advantage here now we do have a |
| 2039s | lighthouse Spawn from Red which is going |
| 2041s | to start on the expansion but a |
| 2043s | lighthouse spawn nevertheless gives you |
| 2044s | another population when you need |
| 2047s | it both teching Workshop here |
| 2058s | expanding forc to is forced to pick up |
| 2060s | hunting which works just fine with their |
| 2062s | capital |
| 2064s | resources and they I think they picked |
| 2067s | up or here right the pick up Arc CU I |
| 2070s | saw them Harvest two food in the capital |
| 2072s | to upgrade it with the LI yeah they they |
| 2073s | they they took the bananas they L the |
| 2075s | lighthouse plus two uh organization the |
| 2078s | two food to upgrade their Capital as |
| 2080s | well can upgrade their city as well |
| 2082s | again and now I see it's a |
| 2087s | river so both |
| 2090s | players right now I would still say |
| 2092s | green is in a slight Advantage here but |
| 2094s | not because that the capital is under |
| 2097s | water it's because because they have a |
| 2100s | much |
| 2101s | better position when it comes to |
| 2103s | contesting this land mass of |
| 2106s | cities because they spawned on it right |
| 2108s | like the red red has to cross over the |
| 2111s | the |
| 2113s | the so could you count how how many |
| 2116s | cities on both |
| 2118s | continents we have Seven Cities on this |
| 2121s | Northern continent and five on the |
| 2123s | southern |
| 2125s | one but as I said |
| 2128s | this one is actually like Lova here is |
| 2130s | close to Red meaning red actually gets |
| 2133s | it but the reason I would argue that red |
| 2135s | has the worse position still is because |
| 2137s | they have to cross a waterway in order |
| 2139s | to contest this land mass and green |
| 2141s | spawned on it so they they could just go |
| 2143s | riding and and red can't go riding |
| 2146s | unless they go Rose build Bridges which |
| 2148s | bridges are five stars in early game |
| 2150s | five stars is a lot like a scout is also |
| 2152s | five stars but no you have to get the |
| 2155s | tech explore for the lighthouse and then |
| 2157s | straight up into division revealing |
| 2159s | everything necessary to to play the game |
| 2163s | here like this is what I said right red |
| 2166s | is forced to either get riders or |
| 2169s | Bridges or you going to get Scouts cuz |
| 2174s | you have forced to cross this Waterway |
| 2176s | and if you don't want to cross it you |
| 2177s | can just get Scouts and get Naval |
| 2179s | control here but |
| 2181s | yeah yeah but they're going to get uh uh |
| 2184s | another city |
| 2186s | there on Green's continent yeah but |
| 2190s | they'll have to defend it mhm if did |
| 2192s | prepare a Siege here preh hitting the |
| 2194s | warrior allowing them to Now kill this |
| 2196s | warrior with a full HP unit because it |
| 2200s | has a defense bonus doing it the other |
| 2202s | way around wouldn't work |
| 2203s | mhm I know this warri hits this raft |
| 2206s | meaning they can't actually un Siege it |
| 2208s | mhm I'm still impressed with how red |
| 2211s | Kiku still manages to keep hold of this |
| 2213s | Village there in the center um I uh just |
| 2217s | noticed my microphone was muted for the |
| 2219s | past minute |
| 2221s | so good for you yeah we we've been there |
| 2227s | today it's it's time for you rats to to |
| 2230s | have it to have your ex and |
| 2234s | talk okay I think this matchup is still |
| 2238s | quite balanced actually I mean they |
| 2241s | basically have the same amount of |
| 2243s | economy still I mean you already said |
| 2246s | that they kind of have have a an |
| 2249s | advantage uh map structure wise but I |
| 2252s | personally still think there's a lot of |
| 2254s | different things possible here um and a |
| 2257s | lot of tactical opportunities to seize |
| 2258s | for both players the reason I argue that |
| 2262s | green is has a huge Advantage here is |
| 2265s | simply because of what I said like with |
| 2268s | the map structure right I I argue that |
| 2270s | red is forced to go riding roads with |
| 2274s | Bridges if they want to play this but |
| 2276s | it's continent so you kind of need to |
| 2278s | Navy and you know like at the end of the |
| 2280s | day it's really difficult for them to |
| 2281s | play this and this allows green to pick |
| 2284s | up roads forestry like a lot of economy |
| 2287s | teag while they are getting a scout |
| 2289s | Scouts are like something sure they good |
| 2293s | on the water CU they can't they archers |
| 2294s | under water they can't be hit they can't |
| 2296s | shoot without retaliation but V being |
| 2298s | able to go Tech routes allowing them to |
| 2301s | upgrade their economy allowing them to |
| 2302s | get roads to and Riders to be really Pro |
| 2306s | like dominant on this sort of land mass |
| 2308s | here and you you see this here like we |
| 2310s | get a giant we have a park now we can |
| 2313s | get a network Monument if we connect all |
| 2314s | these cities and we have Forest speed if |
| 2317s | you want to chop all these all these |
| 2321s | um forests Forest to get like it would |
| 2326s | not be very smart to do it but like if |
| 2327s | you really wanted to you could use the |
| 2330s | park with three Lumber huts on lululu |
| 2333s | here and in order to do that you would |
| 2335s | need to chop nine Forest everywhere else |
| 2336s | you get the Giant this turn now up from |
| 2339s | front and then you just like shove it up |
| 2341s | into into red City and L like they can't |
| 2344s | even defend it they're not in a position |
| 2346s | where they can they're nowhere near |
| 2347s | giant what I'm saying because they had |
| 2349s | to go |
| 2351s | Scouts also uh you know expensive it's |
| 2355s | Seven Stars well they don't do exactly |
| 2359s | that but green Kiku actually manages to |
| 2362s | push through the left side of the map |
| 2364s | and he finds this land bridge uh which |
| 2367s | actually brings him right to Red kiku's |
| 2369s | Capital so whatever is happening in the |
| 2371s | next moves will be crucial to how this |
| 2373s | game goes can actually see red Kiku |
| 2377s | training an Archer here I don't really |
| 2379s | know what he was thinking there but it |
| 2382s | didn't really matter because this Archer |
| 2384s | goes down and he manages to snipe the |
| 2386s | capital from five tiles away securing |
| 2389s | another victory for vs he kind of |
| 2392s | appears to be our main character today |
| 2394s | yeah yeah a lot of games from vs |
| 2399s | look at this position because if if you |
| 2401s | you see what's happening like like sure |
| 2403s | training AR on this city here isn't safe |
| 2407s | that was a misplay yes but at the same |
| 2410s | time what options do you have how are |
| 2413s | you going to defend the city so you see |
| 2415s | a giant coming you knowwhere near giant |
| 2417s | yourself you can't you don't have |
| 2419s | forestry you don't have roads like |
| 2421s | you're not going to get a giant anytime |
| 2423s | soon and this city is really vulnerable |
| 2426s | like this middle City so you want to |
| 2427s | keep it and the easiest way to keep it |
| 2429s | is with archery to it's like |
| 2432s | Scouts not under water because you don't |
| 2434s | need to be under water but like they're |
| 2436s | much much cheaper they're not Seven |
| 2438s | Stars per unit they're three stars per |
| 2439s | unit you know so I I definitely |
| 2442s | understand it but was straight up |
| 2444s | capitalizing on on this mistake of |
| 2446s | training an Archer on the city |
| 2448s | because ultimately with roads they can |
| 2451s | just go around M see what I'm wondering |
| 2455s | about is if you could pause the game for |
| 2457s | a second like half of Red kiku's Army is |
| 2460s | in the southwest in the Southeast corner |
| 2463s | of the map right now what's he doing |
| 2465s | down there like what why are there four |
| 2468s | Warriors and three rafts just scattered |
| 2471s | among the ocean and nowhere near |
| 2474s | defending his actual territory he would |
| 2477s | have needed those up there |
| 2479s | right no no no I mean these these FS are |
| 2482s | fine like if you look at this position |
| 2484s | we had a lot of units here but they all |
| 2486s | died right like we had a lot of units |
| 2489s | here that all been picked up by all |
| 2491s | these Riders and all these units from |
| 2493s | Voss and these units were the first ones |
| 2495s | to actually expand this raft here in the |
| 2497s | ocean took a ruin just now this raft is |
| 2499s | going to take a starfish here and can |
| 2501s | take the ruin later in the lighthouse |
| 2502s | like they're still doing something right |
| 2504s | and warriors especially since these |
| 2507s | Warriors are behind the river they can't |
| 2509s | actually do anything unless you upgrade |
| 2511s | them to Scouts and there's a giant |
| 2513s | Juggernaut coming so effectively you're |
| 2515s | not going to really really doing a whole |
| 2517s | lot with Scout there was there another |
| 2519s | um city in the in the East cuz I see |
| 2523s | some some shell water tiles no do yeah |
| 2526s | there was another one yeah oh yeah so |
| 2529s | one more the Easter mhm all right well |
| 2533s | quite the tragic uh lost two Wars |
| 2537s | again um I'd say we move to on to the |
| 2541s | next game Yep this one is Ana versus |
| 2545s | gamola 28 |
| 2549s | also would you guys mind picking less |
| 2551s | complicated usernames we always have to |
| 2553s | come up with nicknames for you so we can |
| 2556s | say your names |
| 2558s | quickly so this is Lakes again from the |
| 2561s | Lakes uh |
| 2565s | week yeah what is you guys favorite map |
| 2569s | type mine is leges or |
| 2573s | drylands dry I love I love |
| 2576s | drylands although I I personally enjoy |
| 2579s | Lakes the most if this a big if if the |
| 2584s | map type is balanced like there's so |
| 2586s | like you've probably seen it before |
| 2587s | there's so many ways that the map type |
| 2589s | on leges especially can screw you up and |
| 2593s | all sorts of different ways right that |
| 2595s | is true |
| 2598s | and yeah |
| 2601s | well and yours |
| 2605s | otherwi well the viewers are saying I |
| 2607s | see continents and Aquatic World on top |
| 2611s | um i' personally also say drylands is |
| 2614s | the best map type because it's the best |
| 2616s | one for a simanti and you don't have to |
| 2619s | deal with any of the Annoying water and |
| 2621s | I always personally find it really hard |
| 2623s | to get units traversing from land to |
| 2626s | water and back to land and all that kind |
| 2629s | of stuff so it's just like the plain and |
| 2630s | simple dry land most okay but oceans is |
| 2634s | also good or uh sorry how how is it |
| 2637s | called |
| 2638s | um I forgot water War yeah exactly M |
| 2642s | okay like when I play when I play |
| 2645s | violence and I'll pick up a Ru it's like |
| 2646s | 90% of the time it's fishing |
| 2649s | so yes I think everyone and then the |
| 2652s | other day I mean I said the other day |
| 2654s | it's been like a month ago but like I |
| 2656s | played a on the ply Champions I played a |
| 2658s | bar mirror map on lakes okay I chose leg |
| 2664s | specifically because I was like okay |
| 2666s | well if I get a Rune it's going to be |
| 2668s | useful right no matter what I get no |
| 2670s | matter what hech I get no matter what I |
| 2672s | get it will be useful I played B guess |
| 2674s | what the Rune was it was |
| 2677s | farming has z% and was m so that wasn't |
| 2681s | even like any other terrain than b |
| 2683s | terrain and B terrain has zero Farms 0% |
| 2687s | well I guess we should just all make a |
| 2689s | game suggestion in the forums to make |
| 2691s | ruins actually |
| 2693s | useful I me are really useful that |
| 2695s | really they can really change games |
| 2697s | right and what I really like about |
| 2698s | polyopia in general when it comes to |
| 2700s | those sorts of things is that the |
| 2702s | replayability of the game is so high |
| 2704s | because every single game is going to |
| 2706s | develop so different |
| 2709s | like most of the time you're not going |
| 2711s | to have like a straight up repeat of |
| 2714s | what happened like you'll always have |
| 2717s | different things you can work with |
| 2718s | you're going to have different resource |
| 2720s | tiles you're going to have different |
| 2721s | terrain blocking you from the middle of |
| 2723s | this of the map like here for example or |
| 2727s | sometimes you're going to have a nice |
| 2728s | Bridge sometimes you going to have a |
| 2729s | nice route to go for |
| 2730s | archery nice route to go for quick giant |
| 2733s | like the game always no matter what type |
| 2735s | you play is going to develop in a |
| 2736s | different way and that's why I really |
| 2740s | like in general as well because also |
| 2742s | with different map types there so many |
| 2744s | different things can happen well on one |
| 2747s | hand that is true on the other hand most |
| 2750s | games I play online and the same way |
| 2753s | because my opponent somehow pulls a |
| 2755s | cloak or a knight or a catapult or |
| 2757s | whatever just ruins my day out of |
| 2759s | nowhere straight out of the fog and |
| 2762s | ruins the entire game for me and that's |
| 2764s | is how it's been going for weeks now so |
| 2767s | no it's not different just playing CTI |
| 2771s | maybe because I mean c is like one of |
| 2773s | the tribes that are basically play |
| 2775s | always the same way because of the meta |
| 2777s | right like unless you're going to be |
| 2778s | going against specific okay I think |
| 2781s | we're going a bit too far now let's go |
| 2782s | back it's fine let are you looking |
| 2785s | forward to to some Simon you reward |
| 2787s | maradon because you are s simti Main and |
| 2790s | uh well it uh depends because uh what I |
| 2793s | like about most about simanti is that |
| 2796s | they have these kind of units with high |
| 2798s | damage and low HP and if the rework puts |
| 2802s | focus on that and maybe balances them |
| 2805s | out a bit but keeps this feature of |
| 2807s | units that deal a lot of damage and have |
| 2809s | other traits um I would like that but |
| 2813s | apart from that I think the tribe is |
| 2814s | fine and people should just stop crying |
| 2816s | if they lose |
| 2817s | okay |
| 2818s | um exactly I think the biggest issue |
| 2822s | about CTI is just that although I don't |
| 2824s | want that to be changed that makes sense |
| 2827s | I I think that this is a very nice thing |
| 2830s | for a tribe to have to have this |
| 2832s | like high damage low HP kind of thing I |
| 2836s | really like that what I would like to |
| 2838s | see change in order to make it more |
| 2839s | balanced would be to remove the creep |
| 2842s | ability from all the hexa Poots and like |
| 2846s | um what else as well this is like one of |
| 2849s | those things where it's like and and |
| 2851s | also the um ability that removes rough |
| 2854s | terrain like the blockage from R terrain |
| 2856s | it's like all these things and even like |
| 2858s | if they want to give them default roads |
| 2860s | as well instead of those myum pots to |
| 2862s | balance it uport I would really like |
| 2864s | that change because it would open for a |
| 2866s | lot more counter playay for both sides |
| 2868s | and it's not just you trying to x a you |
| 2871s | play against different s you get |
| 2873s | Explorer you snipe the shaman because |
| 2875s | they don't see you and you just win the |
| 2876s | game or something like that |
| 2877s | right I really like the way that the |
| 2880s | simti is but this is the feature where I |
| 2883s | think there needs a bit of triing but |
| 2885s | we'll see what they're going to do like |
| 2887s | I'm I'm up for it I think I think the C |
| 2889s | isn't as strong when it comes to bigger |
| 2891s | Maps like sure every tribe has like |
| 2892s | their own strength and weakness when it |
| 2894s | comes to map sizes map tribes like what |
| 2897s | they're going against and stuff right so |
| 2899s | I don't think they're an huge issue |
| 2901s | right now also this game is not made to |
| 2902s | be competitive like it's not it doesn't |
| 2904s | need to be balanced in my opinion like |
| 2906s | it's supposed to be fun people just |
| 2908s | should just enjoy what they would like |
| 2910s | so well we have another question in chat |
| 2913s | uh silver fan is asking what is |
| 2915s | polytopia Legends uh do you want to |
| 2917s | comment on that or should I say |
| 2919s | something about polytopia Legends I |
| 2921s | don't know polyopia Legends to be fan |
| 2924s | yeah so polyopia Legends is is this |
| 2927s | project uh if you uh saw some uh um like |
| 2931s | 3D videos that are on our Channel this |
| 2935s | is a part of the polyopia legends |
| 2938s | game but it's unfortunately not coming |
| 2941s | out anytime soon so I think we shouldn't |
| 2944s | focus on on that the the project is on |
| 2947s | hold um so mijan has uh is focused on on |
| 2953s | the Battle of polyopia right now and uh |
| 2956s | yeah I think we should we should finish |
| 2958s | with with |
| 2959s | that I think so too all right let's get |
| 2961s | moving with this game uh I |
| 2965s | think yeah sorry for for shutting down |
| 2967s | the discussion but it's uh yeah it's |
| 2970s | like uh that they don't have time for |
| 2972s | for Utopia Legends I would love to see |
| 2974s | it but it's uh it's in a like very early |
| 2978s | stage of development and it's far away |
| 2981s | uh I I've even heard like it's you know |
| 2984s | it will take 10 years to uh to finish it |
| 2987s | so a long |
| 2989s | time indeed um we'll see ex exciting for |
| 2993s | sure we've got a leges game here from um |
| 2998s | polium find something some game without |
| 3001s | Wars some game without Wars exactly it's |
| 3004s | un I okay this is like one of those |
| 3007s | things that I've noticed when you play |
| 3010s | polium you always are going to have two |
| 3012s | players in the brackets and most of the |
| 3015s | time because there are so many people |
| 3016s | playing polium you're going to have |
| 3018s | multiple brackets so what I experienc |
| 3020s | like what I see happen a lot of times is |
| 3022s | in one bracket you're going to have V |
| 3023s | and in the other bracket you're going to |
| 3024s | have Ana and these two players are |
| 3026s | incredible like uhh most of the time |
| 3029s | when I play against them it's not |
| 3030s | actually about who plays better it's |
| 3032s | more about who has like somewhat |
| 3034s | slightly better spawn which is nothing |
| 3036s | to say about like RNG like this game is |
| 3039s | fine it's just uh when it comes to the |
| 3042s | top tier of polyopia gameplay on a small |
| 3045s | map like this if both play optimal |
| 3048s | there's only so much both players can do |
| 3050s | right like sure you can still play each |
| 3052s | other but like oudini is going to not |
| 3054s | that's not going to happen anymore or |
| 3055s | you know people are not going to for |
| 3057s | for those kind of mistakes but like I |
| 3061s | really enjoy playing against them |
| 3062s | because it's such a tough task so I'm |
| 3066s | going to be I think Ana is going to be |
| 3068s | definitely the favorite here for this |
| 3069s | match I haven't seen this one but I |
| 3071s | would say they are the favorite so let's |
| 3072s | see what they can cook up |
| 3076s | here already a map where I think um both |
| 3081s | players are connected via land much |
| 3083s | better than in the last |
| 3085s | ones um before |
| 3088s | no Bridge play this time |
| 3091s | yes both at least it would be quite |
| 3093s | surprising meet them here I would like |
| 3095s | to |
| 3097s | no what an Explorer look at that this |
| 3101s | was you still have the shared fog |
| 3102s | enabled you really have to work on your |
| 3105s | settings management yeah okay I but I |
| 3107s | still met them they know what's going on |
| 3109s | they know they have connected land mass |
| 3111s | this like the very crucial thing cuz if |
| 3113s | you look at this you kind of for Tech |
| 3115s | Explorer right but the same time if you |
| 3117s | get really unlucky it could go into the |
| 3119s | corner and reveal absolutely nothing |
| 3122s | which it did do a bit but it also |
| 3124s | revealed the necessary information |
| 3126s | getting the meeting starts as well and |
| 3128s | revealing what's happening in the game |
| 3130s | both players did this and had a more |
| 3132s | shaped explore to do this uh but you |
| 3135s | know both players know what's happening |
| 3136s | here both players know that this is |
| 3138s | going to be leges with a matching like |
| 3142s | they have a land bridge connecting each |
| 3143s | other so they can go Navy but they don't |
| 3145s | have to that's the B of thing of legs I |
| 3148s | think it's always interesting to see the |
| 3150s | map shape and to already that you can |
| 3153s | guess basically how the match is going |
| 3155s | to turn out based on that map shape |
| 3157s | which we have in turn four here |
| 3159s | interestingly this is only something I'm |
| 3161s | able to do when I watch a game some pros |
| 3164s | played and not in my own actual games I |
| 3166s | somehow always miss the central point of |
| 3168s | the game but here you can see that we |
| 3170s | have a very clear land bridge between |
| 3172s | the two capitals in the middle and a lot |
| 3175s | of combat will be going up and down down |
| 3177s | this land bridge and maybe some units on |
| 3179s | the sze but not a lot |
| 3183s | yeah actually I'm curious to see do we |
| 3185s | have something we don't actually have |
| 3187s | anything on the west I was I was going |
| 3189s | to say if except two ruins but if we had |
| 3192s | like another Village maybe even on the |
| 3193s | water this could also could have also |
| 3196s | been a very much like Tipping Point of |
| 3199s | the game or like a what's it called a |
| 3201s | pivotal point of the game because with |
| 3203s | like another city on the water here |
| 3205s | somebody who actually gets into the |
| 3207s | water on this Lake would get rewarded |
| 3209s | for it right but in this sort of map |
| 3211s | shape anybody going into the water gets |
| 3215s | like absolutely nothing from it because |
| 3218s | your Scouts are going to be absolutely |
| 3220s | useless right like unless you have |
| 3222s | really good control you can deny any |
| 3224s | unit strength in Malino and so can green |
| 3226s | deny any unit strength in this Village |
| 3228s | up here if you have the naal superior |
| 3230s | but that's it apart from that you're not |
| 3232s | going to be really doing anything with |
| 3233s | the water here |
| 3238s | all right so uh I think nothing uh you |
| 3242s | have to enable replay fog for it to work |
| 3245s | um stars ruin |
| 3248s | yippe you always like those oh they're |
| 3251s | so strong like we see we see them |
| 3255s | allowing them to grab roads with a star |
| 3257s | run pre-claim connect the cities upgrade |
| 3260s | their cities and now they kind of made a |
| 3263s | trap here like you see how they they |
| 3267s | retreated their units except this R but |
| 3269s | they retreated their units |
| 3271s | to not give them any space to really |
| 3274s | attack them so now they can launch the |
| 3278s | attack themselves with roads right they |
| 3280s | have one two Riders three Riders two |
| 3283s | Warriors kick them off the |
| 3286s | village yeah sieg the city as well |
| 3289s | brutal attack yep all the riders came |
| 3292s | crashing down the middle can the Canon |
| 3294s | Siege it's fine kind of like chess |
| 3297s | sometimes do you guys play |
| 3301s | chess I used to but I'm not a big fan I |
| 3304s | prefer |
| 3305s | polytopia when somebody asks me what is |
| 3308s | polytopia the way that I explain to them |
| 3311s | is imagine you play chess but with |
| 3314s | for that's how I explain how politopia |
| 3317s | is played if somebody doesn't know what |
| 3320s | the game is I think it |
| 3322s | like it explains poopa the best way like |
| 3326s | it's just chess with fog no and a bit as |
| 3330s | well but you know it's |
| 3332s | fun nice fun little game and you |
| 3336s | Maron uh I do play a lot of Chess |
| 3339s | chesses uh if I had to pick one game I |
| 3341s | play for the rest of my life it would be |
| 3343s | chess oh you |
| 3347s | traitor I will kick you from the well I |
| 3351s | said that on the wrong stream oops |
| 3354s | um copia is |
| 3357s | um I somehow agree with it but |
| 3361s | polyopia um has a bit more RNG just |
| 3364s | doesn't have RNG yeah so no plus I chest |
| 3367s | is just RNG chess is no no no skill it's |
| 3370s | just |
| 3374s | RNG all right let's get back to the game |
| 3378s | yeah I pa you because I would like to |
| 3379s | look at this map shape again we have got |
| 3381s | a 4 C Count versus 5 City count here I |
| 3385s | like this interesting decision here we |
| 3387s | look at this Capital we take population |
| 3390s | growth and not border growth You could |
| 3391s | argue why not taking border growth you |
| 3394s | have so many forests here you have |
| 3396s | animals you can get so many good Sawmill |
| 3398s | spots and Market spots later on with |
| 3399s | Sawmills if you take B growth however |
| 3403s | they say well I'm not playing into the |
| 3405s | late game I'm going to try and get this |
| 3408s | giant as soon as I can which means if |
| 3412s | you take B growth you get three |
| 3413s | population less which three animals |
| 3415s | that's six stars that you're wasting by |
| 3416s | taking border growth it just slows down |
| 3418s | your first Giant and if you look at this |
| 3422s | position just from this aspect of things |
| 3425s | forestry is five 14 so I have five STS |
| 3427s | left they can get a giant next turn with |
| 3429s | forestry because they didn't take border |
| 3432s | growth and then they could use the park |
| 3434s | with three Forest on this city to get |
| 3435s | another Giant and just absolutely Rush |
| 3437s | him down that's what I would |
| 3440s | expect and if you take B grth in your |
| 3444s | Capital sure you would have a stronger |
| 3445s | lad game here but |
| 3447s | uh you know you're not going to be |
| 3448s | playing into your strengths of the spawn |
| 3449s | and they get farming in the ruin |
| 3452s | allowing them to upgrade the cities even |
| 3454s | more efficiently without grabbing any |
| 3456s | Tech getting that giant getting the |
| 3458s | second giant as well oh well now they |
| 3461s | use the monument to get that double |
| 3462s | Giant on the way in turn 11 yeah they |
| 3465s | would have probably planned to get this |
| 3467s | giant with forestry on Marino here but |
| 3469s | because of the of the farming ruin here |
| 3471s | they they were able to do this instead |
| 3474s | not needed to grab Forestry at all |
| 3477s | they could still and get a giant Malino |
| 3480s | they |
| 3480s | can upgrade the city and then just |
| 3483s | honestly chop the rest and spam units at |
| 3485s | them honestly oh but their opponent gets |
| 3488s | two giants too what is this game man |
| 3491s | we're in turn 11 and four Giants on the |
| 3495s | field I have to say we are all rooting |
| 3498s | for Ana here but GAC is doing an awesome |
| 3502s | job of keeping up I after to admit I'm |
| 3505s | not rooting I'm saying I'm is the |
| 3507s | favorite I would |
| 3509s | say but they actually also put a Play |
| 3511s | support down cuz they don't have |
| 3513s | forestry it's actually cheaper you would |
| 3515s | argue okay Seven Stars for population |
| 3517s | right like that's not really efficient |
| 3519s | is it but actually it is because they |
| 3521s | don't have first spe first is 12 Stars |
| 3523s | plus the Lumbard would be 15 uh P cost |
| 3526s | seven so that's actually efficient to do |
| 3528s | that because sometimes grabbing Tech |
| 3532s | is oh we take an attack here grabbing |
| 3536s | Tech is not the way to go if I'm not |
| 3539s | planning on using it |
| 3540s | anyways a explor abely went into the |
| 3543s | corner that's really unlucky if you look |
| 3545s | at |
| 3547s | this uh let me turn on like |
| 3552s | this so if you were not aware the way |
| 3555s | that Ru an Explorer work |
| 3559s | is a Ru has always a chance of giving an |
| 3563s | Explorer if there is one for tile within |
| 3566s | a two radius around it meaning a |
| 3568s | mountain ruin can never give a Explorer |
| 3572s | because by stepping on the mountain |
| 3573s | weeve the fog required to give you an |
| 3575s | Explorer so in this case you have fog |
| 3579s | around you you can Ro an Explorer and |
| 3581s | since the Explorer will always move to |
| 3582s | the closest for tile and you don't have |
| 3584s | sailing because why would you it's just |
| 3587s | going to go into the corner and give you |
| 3588s | absolutely no value that is so |
| 3591s | unfortunate uh |
| 3595s | maybe yeah |
| 3598s | yeah what did you |
| 3602s | say |
| 3603s | um a user from the chat asked um which |
| 3608s | tribe would you recommend I should |
| 3609s | probably get one very different uh from |
| 3611s | the main |
| 3612s | four |
| 3614s | um so uh we have a professional here uh |
| 3618s | rats what tribe would you recommend as |
| 3621s | the first tribe to get for a beginner |
| 3624s | probably I'm sorry briad I don't want to |
| 3625s | insult you but uh I guess you're a |
| 3628s | beginner or at least uh a beginner just |
| 3630s | like me um what tribe would you |
| 3633s | recommend for someone to get the first |
| 3635s | tribe I got when I started playing was |
| 3637s | Polaris and uh that was definitely not |
| 3640s | the right decision cuz that is way too |
| 3643s | complicated I'm not going to lie uh the |
| 3646s | pipe I would suggest for you to take |
| 3648s | would |
| 3649s | be at0 tribe meaning you can upgrade the |
| 3653s | capital and turn zero and then maybe |
| 3657s | I mean what typ that means he suggesting |
| 3660s | Sai or Kiku to you Brad yeah that's what |
| 3663s | I would suggest but there's like you can |
| 3666s | also pick IMO a very unique play style |
| 3668s | that you can |
| 3669s | enjoy um well I would of course uh |
| 3672s | recommend you to spend the extra bug and |
| 3675s | get simanti um simanti is an incredibly |
| 3679s | strong tribe especially for a beginners |
| 3681s | and they're a lot of fun with their High |
| 3682s | attack stats yeah moreti propaganda |
| 3685s | probably will probably get reworked soon |
| 3688s | but brickhead um if I could recommend a |
| 3692s | tribe I would recommend you seriously to |
| 3694s | get |
| 3696s | simanti also more money for mijan you |
| 3698s | have to like |
| 3700s | that yeah once once we finish the the |
| 3702s | replays we can go through the tribe so |
| 3705s | uh we can give you more recommendations |
| 3707s | we will we will okay let's continue I |
| 3710s | really like the choice of archery here |
| 3713s | archery giving you a defense bonus on |
| 3715s | foresty not doing so much here because |
| 3718s | where the fight is going to unfold you |
| 3720s | don't really have a whole lot of forest |
| 3721s | tiles for your Giants to have defense |
| 3722s | bonus on I don't know the numbers but I |
| 3725s | think a giant with defense bonus just by |
| 3727s | few number takes 12 instead of 10 units |
| 3730s | of like Warriors to to kill so defense |
| 3733s | modus in general always a great t a |
| 3735s | great thing that you can look for and |
| 3737s | archery is one of those ways but mainly |
| 3739s | you have these units like Scouts but on |
| 3742s | the land and cheaper that can deal |
| 3744s | damage without retaliation being very |
| 3747s | efficient at their job and that's what |
| 3749s | you kind of need when you look at this |
| 3750s | position they they see that they got a |
| 3751s | giant from this city which has like no |
| 3753s | resources around them so they know it's |
| 3755s | going probably going to be a park from |
| 3756s | the city meaning there's probably going |
| 3758s | to be another Giant on the capital so |
| 3760s | that going to be two giants coming they |
| 3761s | don't see the second one yet I would |
| 3763s | assume they know it though and arer is |
| 3766s | going to be a really efficient way to |
| 3767s | deal with that |
| 3769s | issue anra starting to |
| 3773s | engage and here we see both Giants |
| 3777s | coming out just as he |
| 3781s | said and the perfect display of how the |
| 3784s | archers fight this is risky you see you |
| 3787s | see how we have an opening here of you |
| 3792s | can go from the south onto the mountain |
| 3794s | and kill the Archer and Siege they might |
| 3797s | not grab us they might not even do it |
| 3799s | there I mean they they don't do it |
| 3801s | because grabbing Mountain would be a |
| 3803s | attack that is kind of expensive for |
| 3805s | them so they don't don't want to do it |
| 3810s | we start I wonder what their plan was |
| 3812s | with that giant in the west I mean they |
| 3815s | kind of just wasted a giant right well |
| 3817s | it turns out it was all a distraction |
| 3819s | Because the Night comes in and rushes |
| 3822s | out and kills all the units in the |
| 3824s | background this is a 50 star night chain |
| 3827s | I actually counted that out and they |
| 3830s | just waste the night for good measure |
| 3832s | because they know it's over for their |
| 3833s | opponent and here we go it's |
| 3838s | because as we predicted and vinc this |
| 3841s | one I I want to I want to like refer to |
| 3843s | this because you see they have like a |
| 3846s | really difficult choice to make here |
| 3848s | even if they see the Knight what are |
| 3850s | they going to do about it that was such |
| 3852s | a nice play from anva by siing the city |
| 3854s | they can't join in the city unless they |
| 3856s | have farming which is the attch that you |
| 3858s | wouldn't really expect for Kiku to have |
| 3860s | like and also wouldn't have grabbed |
| 3861s | farming if it wasn't for the Rune giving |
| 3863s | them farming so unless they have two |
| 3865s | monuments which I mean they're not going |
| 3867s | to have a nwk monument they're not going |
| 3868s | to have a killing Monument they're not |
| 3869s | going to have a park cuz they use it |
| 3871s | already so they can't Giant on the city |
| 3873s | so the only way for them to un Siege It |
| 3875s | Is by killing the Giant and how can they |
| 3877s | kill the giant with plenty of archers a |
| 3881s | giant hitting them as well and then the |
| 3883s | units but by doing that you force all |
| 3888s | these archers to be stacked up so close |
| 3890s | to another like |
| 3892s | this and sure you could break the chain |
| 3895s | here but like even just these |
| 3897s | archers they are prepared to kill the |
| 3899s | giant as well plus all these archers |
| 3901s | with the night shame yeah there's |
| 3904s | nothing that they can do that Siege with |
| 3906s | the giant was a really nice bait because |
| 3908s | it left them no choice but to give them |
| 3910s | a night chain sure it was more than |
| 3913s | than they could have played |
| 3917s | for uh yeah by the way interesting |
| 3920s | choice to not promote the the Knight |
| 3923s | here to then attack |
| 3926s | doesn't at this point this game is over |
| 3928s | that was really nicely done by to this |
| 3930s | giant Siege seing the deal here baiting |
| 3933s | them fully into the match mhm yeah great |
| 3936s | play yeah great play looking at CH okay |
| 3941s | the next game is uh actually the last |
| 3944s | one we chose for today is Ana versus |
| 3948s | bios Sledge it's the finals game two and |
| 3951s | oh boy are you in for a ride for this |
| 3954s | one so let's do those recommendations |
| 3956s | tribe recommendations and then we'll |
| 3958s | jump to the to the game yeah okay so let |
| 3961s | me just go do we have Shin imperious B |
| 3964s | Mai are free these four are free so we |
| 3967s | have got Kiku is a very nice learning |
| 3969s | tribe hudrick |
| 3970s | is difficult clowns I mean that honestly |
| 3975s | they they can be strong if you play them |
| 3978s | right but they're not that easy looks at |
| 3980s | was the first tribe I bought I back then |
| 3983s | I used to know nothing about the game I |
| 3985s | just thought oh archers are a cool unit |
| 3988s | this tribe starts with archers that must |
| 3990s | be so strong I'm going to buy the tribe |
| 3992s | with archers and I bought hudrick and I |
| 3994s | love them so much I played nothing but |
| 3997s | HRI and uh yeah looking back that was |
| 4000s | not the smartest |
| 4003s | decision I mean the reason I say it's |
| 4005s | difficult is because it start with an |
| 4006s | Archer but if you walk into the fog with |
| 4009s | an Archer you can't do anything with the |
| 4011s | Archer right if you go if you stumble |
| 4014s | across upon a unit you if you shoot that |
| 4017s | unit with your Archer you're just going |
| 4018s | to eat damage you |
| 4020s | know it's not like you have to play in a |
| 4023s | way where your Archer takes the first |
| 4024s | Village but in a safe way and then you |
| 4026s | have a ro up front the fork and you can |
| 4028s | take an Explorer and you can go around |
| 4029s | you have the arch in the back attacking |
| 4032s | like that if you play it really nicely |
| 4034s | then they can be really strong with like |
| 4035s | into the SOS as well but they're rather |
| 4038s | slow type as well because I mean just |
| 4040s | based by Pure Performance every tribe |
| 4042s | that can cap upgrade the capital and |
| 4044s | turn Zero by default is a stronger T |
| 4047s | because the workshop Advantage just |
| 4049s | allows you to play the game how you need |
| 4051s | how like how the map tells you to like |
| 4054s | you're not forced to play the tribe in a |
| 4055s | specific F because the tribe doesn't |
| 4057s | give you an option tzo tribes can play |
| 4060s | them no matter how they need to be |
| 4061s | played for the map and can adjust look |
| 4066s | almost as good as a TZ tripe when it |
| 4067s | comes to starting CU they have another |
| 4069s | upgrade on the capital giving them an |
| 4071s | extra star per turn from t0 right off |
| 4073s | the bat without any Tech however Wenger |
| 4077s | is difficult to play they can be really |
| 4079s | strong early game but uh actually I |
| 4082s | think I bought Wenger first that was |
| 4083s | also B po were the two tribes I had |
| 4086s | first I love seasi byasi is a great |
| 4088s | tribe go ahead have fun I'm MO is |
| 4092s | interesting as in they are relatively |
| 4095s | easy to play once you understand them |
| 4098s | and they have they they have a lot going |
| 4100s | for them like if you but if you have a |
| 4103s | really weak start you're going to have a |
| 4104s | really tough time but they're fun to |
| 4105s | play |
| 4106s | also the skin is awesome I'm just the |
| 4109s | the Amo skin I love it it's awesome they |
| 4113s | have this kind of this Japanese feeling |
| 4115s | to it or Chinese or I I don't know |
| 4118s | anything about Eastern culture but it's |
| 4120s | cool I love it well they should have |
| 4123s | pandas instead of koalas it's like no |
| 4126s | but then you had to hunt the |
| 4129s | pandas yeah but koalas are also cute you |
| 4132s | know how can you hunt a koala there |
| 4137s | killing them you're just hunting them |
| 4139s | maybe you're putting them I don't know |
| 4141s | maybe you're bringing them to the city |
| 4142s | and make an attraction out of it and |
| 4144s | earn |
| 4146s | St I think we're getting sidetracked |
| 4149s | here yeah yeah okay go ahead rats Kali |
| 4152s | is a very interesting tribe if you want |
| 4154s | to have fun with cloaks uh they the they |
| 4158s | the tribe to go with also if you play an |
| 4160s | FFA Kali is probably the strongest |
| 4162s | tribee to play if you wall defend the |
| 4164s | early game nobody can really do anything |
| 4165s | about you and if you just send out |
| 4167s | embassies people are forced to accept |
| 4170s | peace with you you can snowball really |
| 4171s | quickly from that and then with cloaks |
| 4173s | it's a really strong unit in the early |
| 4174s | game as well if you have an early giant |
| 4176s | to deal with yadak especially with the |
| 4179s | RO change quite difficult to play now so |
| 4182s | they're quite unique but they're also |
| 4184s | not that strong and difficult to play so |
| 4185s | I wouldn't suggest them picking up first |
| 4189s | Aquarion also difficult to play only |
| 4192s | recommend them to play on maps that have |
| 4194s | any sort of water cuz otherwise going to |
| 4196s | have issues cuz your Riders don't move |
| 4199s | anything on on that Rose don't work on |
| 4202s | those Riders and uh you will only be |
| 4205s | moving one tile each with those so land |
| 4207s | fights going to be very difficult with |
| 4208s | Aquarian but on the water a very strong |
| 4211s | trive if you want to go yeah an aquarium |
| 4213s | has a re rework going so it will be |
| 4218s | completely changed in a in a few weeks |
| 4220s | yeah so don't forget what I said acon |
| 4222s | will be fun trust me it'll be good right |
| 4224s | I I haven't seen yet but I'm I would be |
| 4228s | surprised if they were not nicely |
| 4230s | changed iion is in my opin I call them |
| 4234s | the tribe of art because they require a |
| 4238s | lot of experience and a lot of knowledge |
| 4241s | about the game how you're supposed to |
| 4243s | play how your opponent is playing and |
| 4245s | adapting to it it's the tribe |
| 4248s | that it's it's a form of art if you want |
| 4251s | to master them they're really difficult |
| 4253s | to play but if you're really good at |
| 4255s | them they are by far the strongest tribe |
| 4258s | in the late game however they're as I |
| 4261s | said really difficult to play but um |
| 4263s | they also have really nice |
| 4265s | stre yeah |
| 4267s | midnight I think what the best out of |
| 4271s | the ones that were |
| 4273s | released yeah definitely all right and |
| 4277s | now there two |
| 4280s | more oh Polaris is really difficult uh |
| 4283s | if you want to just go all out on water |
| 4285s | world maps and archipelago then go ahead |
| 4288s | have fun if you ever played Kiko or |
| 4291s | something on arelo against pois you'll |
| 4293s | know what I'm talking about because they |
| 4295s | can be very |
| 4296s | oppressive uh fun to play if you get |
| 4299s | started but also not on my opin not the |
| 4302s | first trap you should play you should |
| 4303s | buy |
| 4305s | CTI |
| 4306s | yeah go ahead yeah um basically uh if |
| 4310s | you play simanti uh this completely |
| 4313s | changes your play style because you have |
| 4316s | a whole set of different units Knights |
| 4319s | are replaced by dumac which are tanky |
| 4321s | units that do not have the ability to |
| 4323s | persist killing enemy units your Riders |
| 4327s | are incredibly powerful early game and |
| 4329s | you have a shaman that replaces mind |
| 4332s | benders that basically enables you to |
| 4334s | boost units which Buffs their damage and |
| 4337s | movement until they attack someone uh |
| 4340s | simanti is an incredibly fun tribe to |
| 4342s | get started with because they're easy to |
| 4344s | play uh decently I'd say simanti kind of |
| 4349s | loses late game from what I've seen uh |
| 4352s | because they don't have any units that |
| 4354s | can chain through enemy units but if |
| 4358s | you're getting to late game with Sim |
| 4360s | you've done something wrong anyways so |
| 4363s | uh simti in my opinion is by far the |
| 4366s | best tribe um I bought them after |
| 4368s | watching a gly video back when they were |
| 4370s | first released |
| 4372s | and it's my personal favorite I think |
| 4375s | might have said that once or twice today |
| 4378s | and look I only have stats right I have |
| 4381s | stats to back off what I'm saying you |
| 4382s | see top rating 96% that means they're |
| 4385s | not the best tribe right like you see |
| 4386s | polarus 100% you see Aquarian 100% CTI |
| 4389s | does not have 100% writing for me so |
| 4391s | they're not the strongest tribee so yeah |
| 4394s | science po science now exactly all right |
| 4398s | yeah we have so before before we jump |
| 4401s | into the last game we have a very |
| 4403s | specific question from ziki |
| 4406s | uh is there any tribe that can beat Alan |
| 4409s | on a 900 TI dry land MX well um I would |
| 4414s | say it really depends on who plays |
| 4417s | um I |
| 4419s | mean |
| 4422s | o I don't like if you know if the |
| 4425s | opponent knows how to play |
| 4427s | lion I don't think there's anything you |
| 4429s | can do unless you play Leon yourself mhm |
| 4434s | because |
| 4437s | just think about this |
| 4439s | Giants I don't know how to explain this |
| 4443s | uh Giants are like a very tanky unit |
| 4446s | right when you upgrade the city you get |
| 4447s | a super unit get a |
| 4449s | giant |
| 4452s | and that |
| 4455s | giant once you kill them they're gone |
| 4457s | right now think about this what if you |
| 4461s | chuffed up a lot of Defenders up front |
| 4463s | in front of your super unit but the |
| 4466s | super D isn't a giant it's a dragon that |
| 4468s | shoots from the range and does area |
| 4471s | damage the reason why uon is so much |
| 4474s | stronger than any other tribe in late |
| 4475s | game is not because they have dragons |
| 4478s | but because like also dragons are a |
| 4480s | reason but like the reason they're so |
| 4481s | strong is because they have pully Towers |
| 4483s | which are independent units that do a |
| 4485s | lot of damage meaning when you come to |
| 4488s | the late stage of the game he can shove |
| 4490s | up a lot of Defenders up front to deny |
| 4492s | any sort of night chain and stuff like |
| 4494s | like to just be really annoying |
| 4496s | and you can |
| 4498s | have you can have uh dragons shooting |
| 4501s | from the distance dealing area damage |
| 4504s | having Knights chain through the area |
| 4505s | damage |
| 4506s | units that you could otherwise from a |
| 4508s | normal tribee not really access with a |
| 4512s | with a knight that's like a dragon like |
| 4514s | a nacha from the distance you're going |
| 4516s | to be able to chain a lot more easy |
| 4520s | and after that you're going to have a |
| 4522s | lot more units in your opponent because |
| 4524s | well you filled up the population with |
| 4525s | Defenders but you still have pulley |
| 4527s | Towers to fight and kill other tanky |
| 4529s | units on your opponent like the only |
| 4531s | thing that's |
| 4533s | is bad for lion that makes them |
| 4537s | not extremely super strong is that they |
| 4541s | cannot chop forests why is it important |
| 4544s | well if you can't chop forests and you |
| 4545s | eat cloaks from your opponent then you |
| 4547s | can get archery defense bonus tiles on |
| 4549s | those daggers and they're a lot easy |
| 4551s | harder to kill so you can't night shame |
| 4553s | them but you know it's like the only |
| 4555s | thing |
| 4556s | so n Time |
| 4558s | map you just got to play Leon I don't |
| 4561s | know what to tell you I'm sorry yeah and |
| 4563s | another argument against simti so ziki |
| 4566s | says simti is unplayable on 900 T Maps |
| 4570s | okay there you go yep that's much that's |
| 4574s | kind of |
| 4576s | true I've seen somebody one V2 a s a two |
| 4581s | simantis with Yak in the N andile map |
| 4584s | because it's n Andes |
| 4587s | yeah see simanti is incredibly good at |
| 4590s | making spontaneous pushes and short |
| 4594s | attacks with uh short range and dealing |
| 4597s | a lot of damage really quick and then |
| 4599s | retreating again uh yeah you can't just |
| 4602s | do that on 900 tiles uh so yeah I think |
| 4606s | we can all agree with |
| 4609s | you is unable shall we do the last game |
| 4614s | yeah sounds good yes |
| 4615s | okay currently looking for the link one |
| 4618s | sec copy the one thing there we go this |
| 4622s | is continents or is it it's which one is |
| 4626s | it uh again this one is uh anver versus |
| 4630s | bio Sledge I think we yep there we go |
| 4634s | yes the finals of one of those polium |
| 4637s | games so this is going to be best like |
| 4638s | okay this is not going to be a best of |
| 4640s | three but this was one of the games of |
| 4642s | that best of three from the finals so |
| 4644s | these players both of them made it all |
| 4646s | the way through the bracket without |
| 4648s | losing a single match and now they're |
| 4650s | playing against each other in the best |
| 4652s | of three in a |
| 4654s | continence again actually I really like |
| 4656s | the continence games that we had because |
| 4659s | in my experience continence games are |
| 4661s | very I want to say unbalanced as |
| 4663s | in if one player has access to the ocean |
| 4666s | you just win the game in this case |
| 4667s | nobody does but like the ocean doesn't |
| 4669s | really affect a whole lot of this game |
| 4671s | because you have this River that's |
| 4673s | stretching across the entire land mass |
| 4675s | so it's like a legs game just having a |
| 4679s | having a stretch of water in between |
| 4682s | which is very interesting cuz you're |
| 4683s | going to have [ __ ] and yeah and also |
| 4685s | it's three against three so also an goes |
| 4688s | actually can we uh skip back a little |
| 4690s | that went a little fast um ana with uh |
| 4695s | Brown Kiku decided to uh you just south |
| 4700s | here and if you enable the fog I think |
| 4704s | me personally I would have gone North |
| 4706s | there nor East uh that's not Ana uh you |
| 4710s | need the other |
| 4713s | yeah no see he decided to go south but I |
| 4718s | don't really understand that I would |
| 4719s | have hoped uh for a village in the |
| 4721s | Northeast and potentially even picked up |
| 4724s | the lighthouse instead of just going |
| 4726s | blatant South into the Forest right no |
| 4729s | no I if you look from a mro perspective |
| 4735s | itive trying to optimize the game is |
| 4737s | like the lighter is good right but |
| 4740s | like right now your first priority is to |
| 4742s | establish your position in the game and |
| 4744s | the best way to do that is to try and |
| 4746s | grab to try and secure a village in a |
| 4749s | position where you can then train my |
| 4751s | units to fight right like if you get the |
| 4753s | city on these animals in almost the |
| 4756s | middle of the map uh you're going to |
| 4758s | have a city to train units from to then |
| 4760s | contest anything that you need to |
| 4761s | contest right especially early game when |
| 4764s | you don't have ride |
| 4766s | every single tile that you move the |
| 4768s | units that is closer to the fight is |
| 4771s | going to be very vital so this this city |
| 4775s | here has a lot more impact |
| 4780s | on on the game than the one on the top |
| 4783s | yeah okay that that makes sense if if |
| 4785s | the first Warrior that you send out is |
| 4787s | the warrior that kind of decides where |
| 4788s | your game is going to go and if your |
| 4790s | first Warrior goes into the corner by |
| 4792s | the time you get to this Village |
| 4793s | remember you're not going to train a |
| 4794s | warrior t z so the first Ro train is T1 |
| 4797s | T2 T3 T4 so you going have claimed this |
| 4799s | city at turn five when you could have |
| 4802s | claimed it at turn |
| 4803s | three right yeah that is okay that makes |
| 4806s | a lot of sense all |
| 4809s | right and now have this here that can |
| 4812s | actually although I would agree I think |
| 4817s | for uh for bi I would have taken this |
| 4820s | Village on |
| 4821s | this you see you see the shore line as |
| 4824s | well from the fish it's very likely to |
| 4825s | be a village here in my opinion cuz you |
| 4827s | do have indicators for it but also if |
| 4830s | you're playing Kiku you already have |
| 4832s | fishing so you're going to see Fish here |
| 4834s | and it's you know it's a free upgrade |
| 4837s | you don't need to grab Tech you're not |
| 4838s | dependent on having good resources on |
| 4840s | this Village I mean he doesn't grab it |
| 4842s | right now but he grabs it uh with the |
| 4845s | second Warrior and I think already bios |
| 4847s | sled is at a slight Advantage with one |
| 4849s | more Village than |
| 4852s | Ana let's see how this goes |
| 4856s | uh and both players have uh discovered |
| 4859s | the river in the center now which will |
| 4861s | be defining this game I think yeah |
| 4864s | although they both don't know wait did |
| 4866s | un Tak |
| 4869s | explore and they take a workshop they |
| 4871s | took a |
| 4873s | workshop yeah but they can still be uh |
| 4877s | quite certain where their opponent is uh |
| 4880s | because |
| 4881s | the yeah right here they I don't meet |
| 4884s | them does not discover his opponent |
| 4888s | right here but they see the Border there |
| 4891s | and they go right with the Explorer |
| 4892s | which means they can rule out that |
| 4894s | they're to the right and they see |
| 4896s | there's ocean to the left so they can |
| 4898s | rule out the left and all that's left |
| 4900s | now is that they're just in the middle |
| 4902s | down |
| 4903s | there take climbing take the ruin it's |
| 4906s | aquaculture but it's going to be so huge |
| 4908s | in early |
| 4910s | game and now you can also use meeting |
| 4912s | STS they get meeting STS here but like |
| 4916s | this Warrior is really annoying to deal |
| 4918s | with for green also notice how someone |
| 4921s | lost the match to Ana a couple of uh |
| 4924s | matches ago because they didn't claim |
| 4926s | the river bio does not make this mistake |
| 4929s | basically all of the relevant River |
| 4930s | tiles now belong to him uh except for |
| 4933s | the one north of his Capital but I'm |
| 4936s | pretty sure he will grab those as well |
| 4939s | securing that no surprises can |
| 4943s | happen I mean there still like a a lot |
| 4945s | more B Styles here that being used but |
| 4946s | like right now if I look at this |
| 4951s | position green is forced to go riding |
| 4956s | roads right now you see this position |
| 4959s | they can't get into the water where are |
| 4961s | they going to get into the water like if |
| 4962s | they get into the water here you have a |
| 4964s | warrior blocking the two like the tile |
| 4967s | to the ocean they can't go around they |
| 4968s | can only place water units here to shoot |
| 4971s | in L and what what am I going to do I'm |
| 4975s | is going to back off and not give you |
| 4976s | any value for that so essentially water |
| 4979s | isn't really an |
| 4980s | option |
| 4982s | so yeah we've got a Navy Advantage from |
| 4985s | anva but we also have a very good |
| 4987s | position to play riding roads from Green |
| 4989s | here we take faring we take the B as you |
| 4992s | said to deny the bridge but also to be |
| 4994s | able to get into the |
| 4996s | ocean CU otherwise it wouldn't have |
| 4997s | gotten into the ocean pushing two giants |
| 5001s | with farming and a monument from the |
| 5003s | first giant w |
| 5007s | that's a nice |
| 5008s | play yeah and I think right about now |
| 5011s | the stage is set for a couple of events |
| 5014s | to unfold in the next turns because both |
| 5018s | have their Giants set up both are |
| 5019s | getting bats they're upgrading their |
| 5022s | cities and they've basically finished |
| 5024s | exploring so you know uh [ __ ] is about |
| 5027s | to get real |
| 5029s | basically yeah well I I said that green |
| 5032s | hasn't really no option has really no |
| 5034s | option to get into to the water right |
| 5035s | but like looking at this now well they |
| 5037s | just got two Giants and early Naval |
| 5041s | units are quite expensive and jugernaut |
| 5043s | therefore are relatively hard to kill on |
| 5046s | the water even with with ramas because |
| 5049s | you know you don't really have the Stars |
| 5050s | to spend from like you see 13 STS of |
| 5052s | income sure actually Ana does have rers |
| 5055s | already research because of the ruin you |
| 5057s | look at this we have 18 stars income for |
| 5060s | Ana but still after that R cost five |
| 5063s | stars and is going to be cutting off |
| 5065s | your economy and if you don't get a |
| 5067s | giant yourself grab the [ __ ] you're |
| 5068s | going to be lacking economy in the mid |
| 5074s | game what was that R I was not paying |
| 5077s | attention we see not the UN |
| 5083s | perspective I broke it g I'm going to |
| 5085s | reset |
| 5088s | this that is my bad |
| 5096s | oh by the way we are in turn 10 right |
| 5099s | now um next turn you're going to be |
| 5103s | seeing something awesome we are going to |
| 5106s | see what is deciding this match we were |
| 5109s | in turn |
| 5114s | 10 we we will see the unit popping |
| 5118s | up that's going to be relevant and |
| 5121s | decisive of basically every attack and |
| 5124s | every counter push we will see in the |
| 5126s | next 10 moves mathematics and |
| 5129s | catapults you see how in in two games |
| 5132s | ago when we had Ana played |
| 5136s | versus a different player yeah we we had |
| 5139s | argued that taking Border in the capital |
| 5142s | was very vital because of late game but |
| 5144s | like you don't want to play into late |
| 5145s | game you want to get the Giants quickly |
| 5148s | here we actually take border grth |
| 5149s | because of the route that they're |
| 5152s | choosing to go with sill so early to |
| 5154s | print Giants to have catapults as a unit |
| 5157s | to deal with these Giants catapults |
| 5160s | early game are a very efficient way to |
| 5161s | deal with a threat like that uh but |
| 5165s | also especially with riding now this is |
| 5168s | a route to markets so if you don't want |
| 5170s | to build a Navy you're going to have a |
| 5172s | really strong you see what I'm saying |
| 5174s | here we have a catapult to deal with |
| 5175s | this giant already catapult from both |
| 5177s | sides to be fair because green actually |
| 5180s | says okay this city is mine unless you |
| 5182s | can push a giant on it and if you push a |
| 5184s | giant on it I'm going to have a catapult |
| 5186s | set up already right so that's really |
| 5188s | annoying already for un to deal with but |
| 5190s | we have catapult ourselves being able to |
| 5193s | use that to |
| 5196s | Advantage so so an honestly can just sit |
| 5199s | back here and |
| 5201s | relax just give up the city as well you |
| 5203s | don't really need |
| 5204s | it if the Giant's going there and just |
| 5207s | push |
| 5209s | markets right however once get set up |
| 5212s | you can just go over the land mass here |
| 5214s | with Bridges |
| 5215s | well I personally think this one if you |
| 5216s | could pause right here this situation is |
| 5219s | looking really scary for Ana because |
| 5223s | like from a from a noob's perspective |
| 5225s | there's two giants setting up your |
| 5227s | basically undefended cities and you |
| 5230s | don't have any units you have some |
| 5231s | Giants in the back but that's really |
| 5233s | nothing so it's really the catapults |
| 5235s | that decide the game for and here for |
| 5238s | the first time so uh we'll keep track of |
| 5242s | that and we'll see how much the |
| 5244s | catapults decide this game but this was |
| 5246s | the first important moment I'm looking |
| 5248s | at this right now actually this city is |
| 5250s | fully safe you have a giant going to the |
| 5252s | water here you can upgrade a rama if you |
| 5254s | really want to or need to by the time |
| 5256s | this giant sieges the city you're going |
| 5258s | to push this catapult forward and move |
| 5259s | both catapults in range meaning this gu |
| 5263s | like the green green Kiko is forced to |
| 5265s | attack the Catapult with the scouts and |
| 5267s | then you can use your jug to kill the |
| 5269s | scouts and by that time you're going |
| 5272s | to I actually don't have her |
| 5275s | you probably going to have a killing |
| 5276s | monument and you can potentially push a |
| 5278s | giant in the city so if they were to |
| 5280s | push and Siege with this giant on this |
| 5283s | city you can push a giant yourself and |
| 5285s | because it's the Ocean City it's |
| 5287s | guaranteed Houdini as well right if you |
| 5290s | if you Siege with the giant so green has |
| 5292s | to be very careful on sieging this city |
| 5295s | with the jugernaut |
| 5297s | because they're missing nine population |
| 5299s | right now four for the fish five for the |
| 5303s | PS six for for the connection so if they |
| 5305s | get a killing |
| 5307s | monument and then connect the capital to |
| 5310s | cuz otherwise this port wouldn't connect |
| 5312s | the capital because there's still a |
| 5313s | world missing they can push a giant on |
| 5315s | that with a killing Monument so how many |
| 5317s | kills does an have I'm not |
| 5320s | spectating anva has one kill right now |
| 5323s | the giant was the first kill that's |
| 5325s | always great I guess we don't have a |
| 5327s | killing Monument here to work with but |
| 5329s | we can still just say okay well then we |
| 5330s | just place four ports here that also |
| 5333s | works it's not efficient |
| 5335s | but I think I think B won't fall for it |
| 5338s | though he sees the catapults in the |
| 5340s | North or he has experienced them with |
| 5342s | this giant at least the one that died |
| 5344s | earlier CU to see what what they're |
| 5346s | going to do here yeah also now just the |
| 5350s | Catapult start bombarding over that |
| 5352s | River and they actually don't that hurts |
| 5357s | yeah they they they okay that's a big |
| 5360s | misplay here CU they didn't have like |
| 5362s | there was juicy hits on J not I don't |
| 5365s | they don't see the catapults but I saw |
| 5367s | that giant get clapped by two so you |
| 5369s | kind of know that there catap in the |
| 5371s | works so the vision doesn't really do |
| 5373s | anything here you kind of want to move |
| 5375s | your giant out of the way of the |
| 5377s | catapults to be able to Siege it and now |
| 5379s | by eating those two shots this giant is |
| 5382s | no longer even able to Siege the city so |
| 5384s | we're not even talking about the |
| 5385s | potential Houdini this giant is just |
| 5387s | Setra up |
| 5388s | dead however he does get a nice shot on |
| 5391s | those catapults wiping them out |
| 5393s | basically yes but this scout is dead |
| 5396s | because he just upgrades this guy to |
| 5399s | aama if he wants to |
| 5403s | shoot the water dominance yeah yeah well |
| 5408s | this scout is dead to this and this this |
| 5411s | jugernaut can go around the Caton could |
| 5413s | finish this scout if they wanted to and |
| 5416s | then this giant is also not really a |
| 5418s | threat anymore even though both |
| 5419s | catapults die you no longer need them |
| 5421s | you see how green has also catapult here |
| 5426s | that's actually really not that good |
| 5427s | because they don't really do anything |
| 5429s | for them and not trying |
| 5431s | to do a push here like there's no room |
| 5434s | for un to push on the side of of things |
| 5436s | and these catapults are 24 stars of |
| 5438s | income because it's three eight star |
| 5440s | units and those in this income is kind |
| 5442s | of going to be lacking in economy wise |
| 5444s | like you see two c and Ana which did |
| 5446s | their job they did what they needed to |
| 5448s | do they killed basically two Giants and |
| 5449s | now they they don't they no longer need |
| 5451s | it right doesn't matter if they if they |
| 5453s | die now but |
| 5455s | uh |
| 5457s | yeah those catapults like this catapult |
| 5459s | as well like it's not really going to do |
| 5461s | anything like should you can have three |
| 5463s | catapult sitting on the shore here and |
| 5464s | then deny any giant or any unit train in |
| 5466s | the city but well Elma doesn't need to |
| 5468s | train anything in that City have a park |
| 5471s | we had still the park to Houdini that |
| 5473s | never mind we didn't even need to |
| 5474s | killing one he still had the park to B |
| 5477s | go here to be able to upgrade units on |
| 5480s | the water for further away but we could |
| 5481s | have pushed a giant there if we needed |
| 5484s | all |
| 5485s | right another catapult actually he just |
| 5489s | keeps training catapults I mean what is |
| 5490s | this guy doing um oh also look at that |
| 5494s | what a massive push there on the left um |
| 5497s | bio slash brings in some rammers to |
| 5499s | defend but that's probably not going to |
| 5501s | be enough I |
| 5503s | mean uh let's just count quickly uh Ana |
| 5507s | has like one two three four five yes |
| 5510s | five rafts out there and three |
| 5512s | dragonauts those three ra going to cut |
| 5515s | it we see we see how Ana says well I see |
| 5518s | your catapults I'm not going to have my |
| 5520s | Giants die to them these catapults are |
| 5522s | currently doing absolutely nothing right |
| 5525s | in fact they let's see what |
| 5527s | happens and I mean yeah sure we'll have |
| 5530s | to push eventually we see catapults here |
| 5532s | because these catapults are needed to |
| 5534s | deal with this giant but we see a lot of |
| 5535s | catapults here that don't really fulfill |
| 5537s | any job right sure Ana isn't pushing |
| 5540s | right now because their catapults |
| 5542s | blocking them from pushing right if |
| 5544s | there for if it wasn't for the catapults |
| 5545s | and I would be just pushing here but at |
| 5547s | the same time that income that spent |
| 5550s | like that's 58 it's 40 stars of income |
| 5553s | which two two turns of income could have |
| 5556s | been spent on other stuff of economy be |
| 5558s | it you know just other things that you |
| 5561s | want to get done and it's not being |
| 5563s | efficient with the resources note right |
| 5566s | now that no player is building a bridge |
| 5569s | and no one's really keen on uh having |
| 5572s | actual land combat in the beginning of |
| 5575s | the match we said okay the ocean to the |
| 5577s | left isn't really relevant but right now |
| 5579s | the entire play is taking place in that |
| 5581s | Ocean and the rest is just some units |
| 5584s | like one giant and like two catapults |
| 5586s | fighting over some cities but nothing's |
| 5588s | really going on and the big fight is on |
| 5590s | the ocean I I just like how the game |
| 5592s | developed right like you see |
| 5594s | how |
| 5596s | um you see how anva didn't really do a |
| 5600s | whole lot on the ocean up until like Ana |
| 5603s | got aqua culture right from a ruin and |
| 5605s | didn't use it up until now or like up |
| 5609s | until two turns ago when green was the |
| 5612s | one who actually started pushing on the |
| 5614s | ocean trying to assert something with |
| 5615s | like getting something done with those |
| 5617s | those juggernauts right we had one |
| 5618s | Juggernaut land on this city and and the |
| 5620s | other jugut being very close on Lea but |
| 5623s | if it wasn't for that and I would have |
| 5624s | probably just said well I don't need to |
| 5626s | put my giants into the water I'm sorry |
| 5628s | to defend we could have just like gone |
| 5631s | roads push the Giants over land and then |
| 5633s | started to fight on the right side but |
| 5636s | because an just an just did he was |
| 5639s | playing responsive to what their |
| 5640s | opponent was doing those catapults are |
| 5642s | responsive to them pushing with |
| 5644s | juggernauts that's it those |
| 5647s | juggernauts are placed into the water |
| 5649s | because they have to defend it's let's |
| 5653s | see how this attack |
| 5655s | goes or if they're even really is going |
| 5658s | to be an attack the catapults are |
| 5661s | shuffled around a bit that bomber |
| 5663s | actually dies that round |
| 5664s | I don't really know if that was worth it |
| 5666s | and now the rammers get taken out and |
| 5670s | and uh and progresses and Deals more |
| 5673s | damage um but all these uh uh I'm sorry |
| 5678s | all these juggernauts uh are in the |
| 5680s | range of the catapults now or at least |
| 5682s | some of them let's see how that goes we |
| 5686s | you see I I talk about in efficiency on |
| 5688s | Stars I like I would like to quot I'm |
| 5690s | not saying it's uh I'm not saying it's |
| 5692s | like good but yeah I guess it's |
| 5695s | something no but like look if I would |
| 5697s | like to take the quy from goalie he said |
| 5700s | the I I don't know when he said that but |
| 5702s | I saw one video where he said that he |
| 5704s | said the best way or like the way that |
| 5706s | you win polyopia games is by being the |
| 5710s | most efficient basically so if you are |
| 5714s | more efficient than your opponent you're |
| 5716s | likely going to win because you |
| 5718s | know because you stuff like this is what |
| 5721s | I'm talking about you have these |
| 5722s | catapults are really expensive iive |
| 5724s | units that don't fulfill a purpose and |
| 5729s | last turn we upgraded a bomber which |
| 5731s | Honestly by the way it's two teag that |
| 5733s | you don't even actually already had |
| 5735s | Scouts but like it's another tech plus |
| 5736s | 15 stars for the upgrade just to shoot a |
| 5739s | bit of units |
| 5740s | here damage it wasn't really worth it |
| 5744s | and what do you what do you take now |
| 5747s | well I'mma get roads which is also |
| 5749s | really good route to get markets I can I |
| 5751s | not stop the replay please also good |
| 5753s | routs to get markets with the SOS later |
| 5755s | we kill with two Riders and two roads or |
| 5757s | three roads we kill a 15 star unit and |
| 5761s | these roads are going to be you need it |
| 5762s | anyways to connect your city so like you |
| 5764s | know it's a win-win for Ana so being |
| 5767s | really efficient with killing a bomber |
| 5770s | with two |
| 5771s | Riders we kill all three bombers here |
| 5774s | all three rers rers yeah mhm so now we |
| 5778s | have two catapults in range of these |
| 5780s | juggernauts one of them is one HP |
| 5784s | and and this raft if this catapult |
| 5787s | shoots this raft on the starfish this ra |
| 5790s | is just going to kill this catapult back |
| 5791s | which is again is this two star unit on |
| 5793s | the starfish and a seven star unit |
| 5795s | killing an eight star unit again so not |
| 5797s | only does an have economy bonus by Ming |
| 5801s | better than their opponent by just |
| 5803s | training what they needed and not overt |
| 5805s | training units they also are able to not |
| 5809s | just say well I just have to trade what |
| 5810s | I need to trade and you'll see this |
| 5813s | unfold here |
| 5814s | this giant actually retreats to just be |
| 5816s | efficient 15 stars on another unit again |
| 5821s | mhm and now well this giant just dies to |
| 5824s | catapults playing |
| 5826s | reactive sure we can sacrifice a giant |
| 5828s | here we sacrifice a |
| 5831s | giant looking at this |
| 5835s | we we |
| 5838s | sacrifice one giant I can actually |
| 5841s | disagree here we also kill another |
| 5842s | bomber which is a lot of Stars right mm |
| 5846s | yeah the way I would have played it is I |
| 5848s | would have killed this catapult with |
| 5850s | this Ram with s HP ramor I would have |
| 5852s | move both |
| 5854s | actually yeah |
| 5857s | this no I think this was good this was |
| 5859s | good cuz essentially this giant just |
| 5862s | dies by doing that however you're going |
| 5864s | to get two catapults killed and a bomber |
| 5867s | killed which is big bang for your buck |
| 5870s | right it's perfect |
| 5874s | so we kill this bomber sure we might |
| 5877s | lose this scout lose this ja out here |
| 5879s | but we get big bang for a buck now it's |
| 5881s | actually safe to also upgrade a city if |
| 5883s | we want to get a giant there because |
| 5885s | they not C anymore well on one hand the |
| 5887s | catapults have stopped the offense but |
| 5889s | on the other hand at what cost and he |
| 5891s | just keeps training them he just keeps |
| 5893s | training them and Ana is slowly but |
| 5895s | surely filling up the entire map with |
| 5897s | his units and he will be overrun we |
| 5900s | actually see |
| 5902s | the no |
| 5905s | yeah another |
| 5906s | chain okay yeah yeah okay let's watch |
| 5910s | this we see a |
| 5911s | knight um and this is have have Vision |
| 5915s | on on on on this Knight or not yeah he |
| 5919s | but after after this turn bioedge does |
| 5921s | have Vision on the Knight so he uses all |
| 5924s | his catapults to shoot actually no he |
| 5925s | doesn't so he sees the Knight by taking |
| 5928s | diplomacy uh which honestly is probably |
| 5930s | a good play here because you can you |
| 5933s | safe to stay here like this and then you |
| 5935s | can just train CLS and have them take |
| 5938s | clo the city with if you're going to do |
| 5940s | anything after the next round that is |
| 5943s | yeah but you |
| 5947s | know well I mean at this |
| 5950s | position and yeah what just what is that |
| 5953s | what is that we research diplomacy for |
| 5956s | Clarks |
| 5959s | already andar diplomacy actually gives |
| 5963s | him vision on that KN and now what he |
| 5965s | does now is completely not |
| 5968s | understandable for me because he |
| 5970s | actually moves his catapults in a way |
| 5972s | that they can all be taken out one by |
| 5975s | one |
| 5976s | m and again let's see this all right |
| 5981s | this yeah I mean this chain could have |
| 5983s | easily broken by just moving this |
| 5984s | catapult onto the mountain exactly one |
| 5987s | TI would have been enough the giant the |
| 5989s | sorry the Knight can't move that far |
| 5991s | yeah but let's let's just see it let's |
| 5993s | have the pleasure it's so satisfying to |
| 5995s | see it unold one two three okay little |
| 5999s | Bob four five and six that's again 50 |
| 6004s | stars of catapults fun fact they don't |
| 6008s | have a single unit except the six HP |
| 6009s | catapult standing anymore yeah |
| 6011s | completely |
| 6013s | obliterated by Army wow what a final |
| 6017s | yeah all right yeah so before we uh we |
| 6022s | kind of switch to to to the submitted |
| 6025s | games there is a big |
| 6027s | question uh let me find it |
| 6034s | um yeah so uh no is asking uh about |
| 6040s | walls versus stars and also Parks versus |
| 6044s | Giants so uh what would you recommend uh |
| 6048s | choosing okay um my my may I start uh |
| 6052s | talking about the uh City walls versus |
| 6056s | economy um or versus stars um because I |
| 6059s | think I actually have something to say |
| 6061s | to that might not be smart but it's |
| 6063s | something um basically most of the times |
| 6067s | you will want to pick resources uh the |
| 6070s | five stars when you upgrade a city the |
| 6072s | only cases where you really will want to |
| 6075s | pick uh a city wall are when you have a |
| 6078s | city that's uh contested very hardly |
| 6082s | where you know okay this is going to |
| 6086s | give me a significant Advantage if I |
| 6088s | have a city wall here and my unit is |
| 6091s | safe here in nearly every other |
| 6095s | situation you will want to pick |
| 6096s | resources because the five stars |
| 6099s | especially early game are going to be |
| 6100s | giving you a huge advantage and a huge |
| 6103s | boost in the economy from what I've |
| 6107s | learned um I think when it comes to the |
| 6111s | Giant versus Park debate Giants are |
| 6114s | still most of the time the best |
| 6118s | decision however it's it's just like |
| 6121s | walls it's a very Niche situation first |
| 6124s | of all if you want to play C just never |
| 6127s | select the wall cuz it's pointless but |
| 6128s | against an every other tribe where you |
| 6130s | have a city that you kind of want to |
| 6132s | keep and if you have Defenders the |
| 6135s | easiest way to keep to make it really |
| 6138s | difficult for your opponent to take that |
| 6139s | City from you is to roll the city and |
| 6141s | put a defender in it it's yeah theit |
| 6145s | don't have the |
| 6147s | exactly s only have two like units with |
| 6152s | a stat of two defense units like |
| 6155s | Warriors for example and warriors with |
| 6157s | World bonus instead of a defense bonus |
| 6159s | is cool but it's like it's not that big |
| 6161s | of a difference to un unless it actually |
| 6164s | makes difference in like a specific |
| 6166s | instance then I would not pick that role |
| 6169s | you're better off just taking the |
| 6170s | resources and getting some pots and |
| 6172s | stuff but when it comes to the Giant |
| 6175s | versus Park debate unless you're playing |
| 6176s | glory |
| 6179s | and maybe let me jump in uh so there is |
| 6182s | a there is nice video uh about um walls |
| 6187s | versus stars on the poly Champs Channel |
| 6189s | I will put that in the uh in the chat so |
| 6193s | oh let's go we have a PO Champions plug |
| 6196s | everyone you all right guys don't click |
| 6199s | off right now you the chat will still be |
| 6202s | visible after we end the stream you can |
| 6205s | finish watching the stream now and watch |
| 6207s | the video later I I think that's |
| 6209s | important to say we only have 11 viewers |
| 6213s | right now we don't want that to go to |
| 6214s | zero we like you guys please hang |
| 6217s | in yes go ahead R so when it comes to |
| 6221s | the Giant versus Park debate it's very |
| 6223s | similar |
| 6224s | to what Maron already said about walls |
| 6230s | you want to most of the time it's better |
| 6232s | to just have another super unit another |
| 6234s | really strong unit that's hard to kill |
| 6236s | that's tanky that can defend cities but |
| 6241s | sometimes in some |
| 6244s | instances it can be worth to take a park |
| 6248s | instead now in a normal one V one uh |
| 6253s | no unless you're playing like a n map |
| 6256s | against a STI and you have a city in the |
| 6260s | far far far back from the front that you |
| 6262s | want to upgrade you might grab a park |
| 6264s | because this giant will not be at the |
| 6266s | front in like 10 turns and by the time |
| 6268s | you might as well just take the park and |
| 6269s | get some more Knights |
| 6271s | going uh but what I experienc from |
| 6274s | playing some one ones in the poly |
| 6276s | Champion discard where you can like |
| 6277s | choose the setup that you're playing for |
| 6281s | example what I really enjoy playing is a |
| 6284s | medium size 256 Med size shinshi miror |
| 6288s | cuz Shi is a very relatively uh not so |
| 6291s | strong tribe but if he play a shin miror |
| 6293s | it's actually fun and balanced because |
| 6295s | both have the same stuff to deal with |
| 6297s | and in that instance because you're |
| 6300s | likely not going to play into riding or |
| 6301s | roads and the giant would take forever |
| 6305s | from your Capital to get to the |
| 6307s | front you might as well grab a park in |
| 6309s | your Capital H yeah Park in capital use |
| 6312s | to park of Fortune somewhere else and |
| 6316s | that's like a nice you can really nicely |
| 6319s | balance |
| 6320s | the decisions between parks and Gi from |
| 6324s | Giants in the front parks in the back |
| 6325s | because it takes forever but also |
| 6327s | because the economy is going to actually |
| 6329s | pay off because every single star |
| 6331s | actually matters in in a match like that |
| 6334s | yeah and we have to explain that uh |
| 6337s | actually the mechanics have changed |
| 6339s | quite recently oh yeah so a few months |
| 6341s | ago because uh before the PA path of the |
| 6345s | ocean Parks were giving you just points |
| 6347s | so no extra Stars so it was actually uh |
| 6351s | like you know pointless to get to get |
| 6354s | Parks unless you've been uh playing |
| 6356s | Glory right yeah to be honest I've never |
| 6359s | gotten a park in a competitive |
| 6360s | domination match um I get I get it that |
| 6364s | there is some uh useful occasions but |
| 6369s | honestly I think the only like way it |
| 6372s | makes sense usually is if you just want |
| 6374s | to disrespect your opponent and show |
| 6376s | them that you don't need an extra giant |
| 6378s | to get rid of them so yeah I think um |
| 6383s | your best bet if you're a beginner it's |
| 6384s | just going to be two never pick parks in |
| 6386s | Domination it's just not worth it it's |
| 6389s | funny to me because when Parks were only |
| 6393s | giving you points I was like why would |
| 6395s | it not change the feature that Parks |
| 6396s | give you another extra star of income |
| 6399s | and guess what couple of months later |
| 6400s | they Ed exactly that I was so I was so |
| 6403s | CH the bits with that one yeah I also |
| 6405s | predicted basically the entire um |
| 6408s | diplomacy update before it was released |
| 6411s | I think 3 years even before was released |
| 6414s | um because I was thinking okay well |
| 6416s | maybe you could add like peace treaties |
| 6418s | or some sort of contracts you can make |
| 6420s | with other tribes and also some kind of |
| 6423s | invisible unit would be cool that like I |
| 6426s | don't know could overthrow governments |
| 6427s | and cities and turn them around and uh |
| 6431s | two years three years later they go on |
| 6433s | and add just that with cloaks and with |
| 6436s | peace |
| 6437s | treaties so you see po polyopia two |
| 6440s | polyopia |
| 6442s | profits here on the stream there you go |
| 6446s | exactly okay so we have two submissions |
| 6451s | uh let's first go |
| 6453s | to |
| 6454s | um uh divinity's match because there's a |
| 6459s | there's a question from |
| 6461s | him so |
| 6465s | um so the the question is that it's |
| 6468s | rather like a statement but um he asks |
| 6472s | uh if uh if if there's if there was uh |
| 6475s | anything they could have |
| 6477s | done uh and uh yeah so let's let's see |
| 6481s | this uh this match and uh it's just just |
| 6487s | T but like what f are they playing |
| 6490s | ooh okay so which one I don't you have |
| 6494s | see the see the yeah mhm so it's |
| 6497s | Divinity well so Divinity is the seman |
| 6501s | yeah mhm well oh yeah okay well |
| 6504s | so it's it's a water world right |
| 6508s | yeah that's like a thing if he pick a in |
| 6511s | a water map if you don't have water |
| 6513s | access on the capital it's |
| 6517s | over because okay I was expecting |
| 6519s | something else but yeah okay like the |
| 6521s | only thing you can do here |
| 6524s | is get fishies like The Archers right |
| 6528s | but by the time you get that especially |
| 6529s | since you go against an Aquarion like by |
| 6531s | the time you you can take the city with |
| 6534s | them but like you will probably won't be |
| 6535s | able to because they are faster than you |
| 6538s | mhm and you can take B growth and get |
| 6540s | Alie and be able to like but you don't |
| 6543s | have control to create algae more than |
| 6546s | two tal around your capital and if you |
| 6548s | don't have a city with water access |
| 6549s | where you canot where you can train |
| 6552s | the uh are they called ra I think RI |
| 6557s | yeah |
| 6558s | the if you don't have a city to train |
| 6561s | those from then you have no way of |
| 6564s | creating algae because you have two ways |
| 6567s | of creating algae as I so you can go |
| 6569s | also fi because they they are airborne |
| 6572s | so they can fly fly mhm but it takes a |
| 6577s | long time because you have to up the |
| 6578s | capital first and then you have to |
| 6580s | hunting and you have to AR and you have |
| 6581s | to train a unit and by that time you |
| 6583s | don't even have Vision on it to get on |
| 6584s | it mhm Yeah by that time they're going |
| 6586s | to be able to contest it because it's |
| 6588s | also a 5 HP unit you know so dear |
| 6591s | Divinity you chose a great tribe you put |
| 6594s | in a great effort but there was just |
| 6596s | nothing you could do better luck next |
| 6598s | time and please pick a different map |
| 6600s | type with simanti that's honestly CTI VB |
| 6603s | can be fun if you have a what it can be |
| 6606s | fun if you play it in Mirror matches |
| 6609s | yeah I've actually had some quite |
| 6612s | awesome mirror matches uh with simanti |
| 6614s | against other simantis I've had some |
| 6616s | quite awesome M matches playing Santi |
| 6619s | against Kiku on |
| 6621s | continents it's it's it's actually quite |
| 6623s | fun if you think about it like you have |
| 6626s | algae you can you have two ways of |
| 6628s | creating algae you can create algae by |
| 6629s | exploding youris and you have a way of |
| 6633s | creating algae by killing poisoned units |
| 6636s | so if you kill a poisoned unit on the |
| 6637s | water it will create Ali and the way |
| 6640s | that it unfolds is basically you want to |
| 6642s | try and cover the entire ocean with Alie |
| 6645s | because that counts as rough terrain |
| 6647s | meaning those Scouts that can try can |
| 6649s | move three tiles on the water once they |
| 6652s | run into Ari they'll just stop they |
| 6654s | can't move further than one to into |
| 6657s | Al right so if you cover the enti map |
| 6659s | with Ali those Scouts are going to be |
| 6661s | useless those remas are going to be |
| 6662s | useless so basically your opponent has |
| 6664s | to play with bombers and potentially |
| 6666s | Knights and you can play around the |
| 6668s | Knight chains and potentially get cloaks |
| 6670s | going and you know there's so much you |
| 6672s | can do and it's actually quite |
| 6674s | interesting game if it unfolds but this |
| 6676s | is a very unfortunate spawn where it |
| 6678s | it's not going to unfold because there's |
| 6680s | nothing that you can unfold mhm yeah |
| 6684s | so we have one more submission but it's |
| 6686s | kind of you know like a surprise so |
| 6688s | we'll see what's what's inside the the |
| 6692s | game because the our subscriber just |
| 6695s | sent us a fun game to watch so let's |
| 6699s | well let's see how that goes okay it's a |
| 6701s | Sai mirror match there go on drylands |
| 6705s | Tiny Dryland coin versus Speedy I know |
| 6707s | both of them no way okay so who's |
| 6709s | playing Speedy against uh the other name |
| 6713s | is coin okay Co okay mhm |
| 6717s | okay okay wait who is |
| 6719s | who we've got coin on the orange coin is |
| 6722s | the nzala okay and Speedy on |
| 6727s | the |
| 6730s | what's yeah |
| 6733s | or |
| 6736s | right I'd say it's Anala versus normal |
| 6739s | seasi but let's just let's just Watch |
| 6741s | What Happens |
| 6743s | if a tiny Dryland gam playay both do the |
| 6749s | workshop oh wait this is bullet okay let |
| 6751s | me explain this cuz uh I think yeah |
| 6755s | explain what a bullet is first bullet is |
| 6757s | a tournament Series in Bully Champions |
| 6759s | where you play a Life One V one mirror |
| 6761s | on Tiny drylands against the opponent |
| 6763s | mirror tribe so the all the rules that |
| 6766s | you need to know for bullet is that the |
| 6768s | host skips turn |
| 6771s | zero right tiny map it's unfair like |
| 6774s | host has a big Advantage now what you do |
| 6776s | by host skipping to zero is that the |
| 6778s | host now play second but they have two |
| 6780s | more stars to work with so the advantage |
| 6782s | of moving second is you have two more |
| 6784s | stars to work with oh okay Reon that's |
| 6788s | the reason they can they play an |
| 6790s | workshop opening here and they can play |
| 6792s | a workshop opening and train a warrior |
| 6794s | because they have two more stars to work |
| 6795s | with oh they have to skip 10 zero this |
| 6799s | is I mean it works out this is risky |
| 6802s | though if you look at this |
| 6805s | position from |
| 6808s | Speedy stepping on a village if you |
| 6811s | don't meet them here then you and they |
| 6814s | kick you off the village and you lost |
| 6816s | the game basically because the only |
| 6818s | reason they can try to R is because they |
| 6820s | met them and that's the reason they can |
| 6822s | now kick them off it and contest |
| 6824s | it although I assume the opponent does |
| 6827s | the same trains the rider and can also |
| 6829s | do the same and just do the kicking off |
| 6832s | thing |
| 6833s | bounce |
| 6836s | well |
| 6838s | that's I guess it's a merry go round |
| 6841s | now well but there they will ah okay he |
| 6844s | steps off it okay I was about to say |
| 6847s | he'd be dumb to go on that very nice I |
| 6851s | want to see the vision here from coin |
| 6854s | how this |
| 6856s | unfolded okay they see this because they |
| 6859s | moov the warrior there speedy should |
| 6861s | know that so they saw how the warrior |
| 6864s | moved Southeast un covered this for tile |
| 6867s | here for them and killed so they should |
| 6870s | know that they have for uh Vision there |
| 6875s | so this is actually kind of RIS Rider |
| 6877s | action because they don't actually have |
| 6879s | Vision here so they get punished for |
| 6882s | doing |
| 6883s | that they get heavily punished for doing |
| 6886s | that can we look at this position from |
| 6890s | coin is it reasonable to think they know |
| 6892s | they have two |
| 6894s | Riders they could have tried and take |
| 6896s | the city if they wanted to |
| 6899s | because they should know that your |
| 6901s | opponent is on a level three capital and |
| 6903s | no other City meaning |
| 6907s | that they only have three units they pop |
| 6910s | cap they can't train another another |
| 6911s | unit so they killed one unit they tacked |
| 6914s | the other unit meaning unless the third |
| 6916s | unit is nearby which it's not it's |
| 6918s | grabbing a |
| 6919s | village it's actually safe to take the |
| 6921s | village there but they take the village |
| 6922s | it's fine and this is uh relatively |
| 6924s | safely PA on both |
| 6927s | sides Explorer taking two lighthouses |
| 6930s | o yeah that's that's very lucky yeah big |
| 6936s | yeah let's see explore what |
| 6939s | revealed it's lucky for the Explorer to |
| 6942s | go right into the corner like |
| 6944s | that it's also relatively efficient on |
| 6947s | revealing the tiles it's not like going |
| 6948s | left right and center it's going |
| 6949s | relatively efficient betterman that's |
| 6952s | huge for abet why is that huge for abet |
| 6955s | if you take a ruin and it's a veteran |
| 6958s | swordsman that swordsman will be linked |
| 6963s | to the city that the ruin was from |
| 6965s | meaning if the ruin was in the territory |
| 6967s | of the city then it will take up a |
| 6970s | population space of that City now this R |
| 6972s | was not in the territory of a city so |
| 6974s | this swordsman is independent and also I |
| 6977s | think that's I think it's a buck I don't |
| 6978s | know if it's tal or not but if you take |
| 6981s | that |
| 6983s | swordsman the rider that or the unit |
| 6986s | that claims The Swordsman is now also |
| 6988s | independent so if you look at this you |
| 6991s | see how three units like one two three |
| 6993s | units are from lava and this Rider here |
| 6996s | is from sanua right he takes the zman |
| 6999s | r he refs the okay well that's un really |
| 7002s | lucky he also gets the lighthouse but |
| 7005s | now you only have two population wow |
| 7008s | that's wild this hman is independent |
| 7010s | this Rider is independent you can train |
| 7012s | three more units and you have two more |
| 7014s | not only do you have a swordsman that |
| 7015s | can that requires five hits to be killed |
| 7018s | but also you have two more slots to |
| 7020s | train riders with and simply by sheer |
| 7023s | amount of unit Force you can basically |
| 7025s | just enal your opponent because can't |
| 7028s | train that many I didn't know that I |
| 7030s | didn't know that was a thing at all now |
| 7033s | you |
| 7035s | do |
| 7038s | who it's safely one game in bullet where |
| 7040s | I got assaultman ruin allowing me to |
| 7042s | train another Archer plus having The |
| 7044s | Swordsman which won me the game yeah I |
| 7046s | saw something is wrong because I've I've |
| 7048s | played some games and I had like |
| 7050s | different moves on the population and I |
| 7053s | wasn't sure uh what is it about so now I |
| 7058s | to grab a giant here which is fine but |
| 7061s | it's honestly yeah this is fine this is |
| 7062s | hly the better play as well to go for |
| 7063s | the |
| 7065s | giant because whoever like if right now |
| 7068s | if you train a lot of units you're going |
| 7071s | to be in this predicament where |
| 7073s | if your opponent gets the giant first |
| 7075s | before you take the |
| 7076s | capital you're going to be forced to |
| 7078s | send all your units into the giant to |
| 7080s | kill it meaning you're going to get give |
| 7082s | him a killer Monument he's going to have |
| 7083s | a park be able to get another Giant and |
| 7086s | if you get your upgrades on your city |
| 7088s | early you're going to have more income |
| 7090s | to then reinvest in the economy they're |
| 7093s | getting windmills population wound well |
| 7095s | that just speeds up the |
| 7097s | process who and they can actually get |
| 7100s | another giant right now right yeah the |
| 7103s | next wait they misplay oh no they they |
| 7106s | voted the sword SP in now what I |
| 7109s | actually would have suggested |
| 7114s | here well I would have gotten another |
| 7116s | giant right they could have they could |
| 7118s | have the park with those |
| 7121s | three Farms is also Giant in this city |
| 7124s | by the way and then they can use the |
| 7126s | world connection or just not even the |
| 7128s | world connection just like six Farms |
| 7130s | three Farms to get another Giant in the |
| 7132s | capital could have it could have gotten |
| 7133s | three Giants here in two turns basically |
| 7137s | oh wow well let's see how this goes on |
| 7139s | then if they place a park in Sansa |
| 7143s | resources and then next turn they can |
| 7145s | get two more Giants in either one and E |
| 7148s | by city but this is also fine they can |
| 7151s | use roads to connect these cities |
| 7152s | upgrade this for another giant upgrade |
| 7154s | this for |
| 7156s | resources we see both players getting a |
| 7158s | giant we see both scores go up really |
| 7161s | high so we also can read that the |
| 7163s | opponent got a giant we also see the |
| 7165s | giant here in both cases now we use okay |
| 7168s | we use not the roads but uh to Farms |
| 7172s | to to upgrade Speedy game you can you |
| 7177s | can see a lot of movement going on here |
| 7180s | and a lot of action happening quite fast |
| 7183s | I think this is uh also because of the |
| 7185s | fact that this game is on drylands and |
| 7188s | not really on a map where you have any |
| 7191s | water or |
| 7193s | like big Forest hindering your movement |
| 7195s | because all the units are very close to |
| 7197s | each other and the the entire space is |
| 7199s | just crammed full with units and |
| 7201s | Swordsmen and we also have a lot of |
| 7203s | riders here is that common for seasi |
| 7207s | games I'm not sure yeah uh sebasti is I |
| 7211s | mean the usual way that sebasti is |
| 7213s | played is usually |
| 7215s | typically well unless you don't have I |
| 7218s | mean even even if you don't have a f on |
| 7219s | your second City but if you play you |
| 7222s | play all Warriors and they try and get |
| 7225s | riding as soon as |
| 7226s | possible you just use farms for your |
| 7229s | economy and you want to play into roads |
| 7231s | like if this was a big map you would |
| 7232s | play into roads you would use the roads |
| 7234s | and Farms to upgrade your cities to try |
| 7237s | and get a giant get the netor monument |
| 7239s | going and just you know it's it's a very |
| 7242s | fast-paced game on seasi because you |
| 7244s | also two zero Tri now what I wanted to |
| 7246s | say here was |
| 7248s | because if they connect these cities |
| 7250s | they can get resources for just stars |
| 7252s | and upgrade the capital for just five |
| 7254s | stars but they chose to do both for 10 |
| 7256s | Stars instead which is relatively in |
| 7258s | inefficient and those wordss will still |
| 7260s | need those still need to be placed |
| 7264s | otherwise |
| 7265s | well yeah that would have been smarter I |
| 7269s | guess who is your prediction who is |
| 7271s | winning this game right now uh |
| 7273s | definitely Orange in my opinion it looks |
| 7275s | really favorable for orange because of |
| 7276s | the way that the runes developed it's |
| 7279s | unfortunate to say but like I think the |
| 7281s | runes kind of made the game here because |
| 7283s | this giant claims the city you're going |
| 7285s | to have a three versus two in City count |
| 7288s | oh that's that's a bold move claiming a |
| 7290s | city right next to another giant I mean |
| 7292s | that giant is just going to get hammered |
| 7294s | with damage |
| 7295s | right uh yeah I mean that's it's fine |
| 7298s | because you have a city Advantage now |
| 7300s | that you can play off alsoit happen here |
| 7303s | I wouldn't have done |
| 7304s | that oh I you have to think about that |
| 7307s | way this city gives you the eye of God |
| 7311s | because you can take Explorer like he |
| 7313s | did to get the last Lighthouse gives you |
| 7316s | another population gives you the eye of |
| 7317s | God you can then use two world |
| 7319s | connections and the eye of God to get |
| 7321s | another Giant in your Capital oh well |
| 7323s | okay that makes a whole lot of sense and |
| 7327s | you have St like I don't really |
| 7329s | understand this part but |
| 7331s | like simply by training a lot of |
| 7333s | Warriors now it's you just have to like |
| 7337s | train a lot of Warriors or like a lot of |
| 7339s | r a lot of units to yeah Warriors not |
| 7342s | Riders cuz that that really |
| 7344s | hurts well they might have just humbl |
| 7346s | the back here won't I well that's a wow |
| 7351s | that's some Siege he |
| 7353s | is oh he uses the eye of God to to |
| 7357s | Giant that's not for that the the city |
| 7360s | would have been lost yeah well but his |
| 7363s | opponent could have also put the rider |
| 7365s | on the unbuilt farm on the crops than he |
| 7368s | couldn't have had done a giant push so |
| 7369s | that was |
| 7370s | risky oh and now we get the the Road |
| 7373s | Connections in and now we get the other |
| 7375s | giant you were speaking of earlier okay |
| 7377s | yeah this is it would have been like |
| 7379s | this is a game in the bag like the macro |
| 7382s | from orang was not well done I must say |
| 7385s | that like it was really inefficient the |
| 7387s | way I played it but it worked out for |
| 7388s | them right like if if it works it works |
| 7390s | right but they could have they could |
| 7392s | have mared all of this a bit better to |
| 7396s | also like if you think about it like for |
| 7397s | so many turns especially in a case like |
| 7400s | this you have two options |
| 7402s | either I mean honestly the two options |
| 7404s | are just you spam units like meaning a |
| 7406s | lot of Warriors and riders in the |
| 7409s | back or you just play into Knights as |
| 7411s | soon as possible after the Giants |
| 7414s | because you see what the opponent is |
| 7416s | doing a knight is not really going to do |
| 7418s | a whole lot to be fair cuz if the |
| 7420s | opponent gets the night all you have to |
| 7422s | do is just use all your units to send |
| 7425s | into your opponent's giant they all die |
| 7428s | you have no night chain anymore but your |
| 7430s | opponent's Giants are that it's |
| 7432s | basically I always say this Whoever has |
| 7434s | the army wins the game like you can have |
| 7436s | really good Eco but if you don't have an |
| 7437s | army to pick up the E like if you don't |
| 7439s | have a army to back off that EA then you |
| 7441s | don't have anything to win from so like |
| 7443s | them not training units for like one two |
| 7447s | three whatever for a very long time |
| 7450s | although they were not pop |
| 7451s | capped like also with this macro being |
| 7454s | very expensive what I said like they |
| 7456s | could have trained more units and this |
| 7458s | rer was but that's kind of an old and |
| 7460s | yeah that Siege was uh bad but uh you |
| 7464s | mentioned earlier this was a bullet game |
| 7466s | in chess a bullet game means that a game |
| 7469s | is played very fast so the time control |
| 7471s | is very strict and you only get like one |
| 7473s | or two minutes is this the case for uh |
| 7476s | polyopia matches for polytopia bullet |
| 7478s | matches as |
| 7479s | well it's a life game right like it's a |
| 7481s | normal life game that you can play also |
| 7483s | in a yeah so so time pressure is there |
| 7486s | yeah time temp pressure is definitely |
| 7488s | there it's just this is not so much like |
| 7492s | you still have time to think what you're |
| 7493s | going to do next while your opponent is |
| 7495s | playing right but at the same time the |
| 7497s | general game plan should be still in |
| 7499s | your head of like okay now I have got |
| 7502s | the giant Advantage now I've got the |
| 7503s | city Advantage now I just need to pump |
| 7504s | out units to you win the game and stuff |
| 7506s | like that like you don't need to like |
| 7508s | for example you could technically grab |
| 7510s | or here to get another Giant in the |
| 7512s | capital I mean he gets |
| 7515s | R missing something oh yeah we take Arc |
| 7518s | here and take Ro's connection to get to |
| 7519s | GI another giant here but at the same |
| 7521s | time |
| 7524s | your opponent only has one giant if he |
| 7527s | can kill that giant h two Giants sorry |
| 7529s | that's three giant never mind this one |
| 7530s | giant if he can kill that giant by |
| 7532s | having a lot of units to send into the |
| 7534s | giant then what's the issue |
| 7538s | right yeah that's true like now |
| 7542s | attacking and the opponent like the |
| 7545s | thing is they can't I me |
| 7548s | they yeah they are doing a decent job f |
| 7552s | with all the archers coming out I mean |
| 7554s | their opponent definitely knows what |
| 7556s | they're doing they just messed up |
| 7558s | somewhere at some point they had to go |
| 7560s | archery they have forc to go archery |
| 7563s | because they are behind in the city |
| 7566s | Advantage like they have one city less |
| 7568s | so simply the sheer unit amount is going |
| 7570s | to be in the favor of your opponent plus |
| 7572s | the opponent has more Giants than them |
| 7573s | like they have to find a way to win the |
| 7576s | game and that' be they could go cloaks |
| 7579s | they could go Knights but those routs |
| 7581s | are really expensive and the easiest way |
| 7583s | to right now deal with it is just get |
| 7585s | archers to be able to trade and attack |
| 7588s | efficiently right archers are unit that |
| 7590s | can attack without taking retaliation |
| 7592s | that's really efficient and therefore |
| 7594s | this is the best way to deal with this |
| 7595s | situation here but it's just too big of |
| 7599s | a of an attack I mean they still have a |
| 7601s | v hman here they're trying to go for the |
| 7603s | capital |
| 7604s | but |
| 7606s | effectively also I really like this they |
| 7608s | got a veteran Rider and I did not |
| 7610s | promote him so I used that one to |
| 7612s | at 5 8 |
| 7614s | HP they used to |
| 7617s | attack and now promoted it they just |
| 7620s | saved it they didn't promote it |
| 7621s | immediately they saved it up for later |
| 7624s | yeah awesome I'm surprised this game |
| 7626s | still goes on for so long because it |
| 7628s | really looks like a l |
| 7631s | position I usually don't see people give |
| 7634s | up really quickly in bullet I mean sure |
| 7636s | looks over |
| 7638s | but you know there still something they |
| 7640s | can do it's not over over yeah that |
| 7643s | that's true |
| 7648s | yeah and I think over the past hour or |
| 7652s | two we've seen a lot of games all of a |
| 7654s | sudden turning around with a single |
| 7656s | night chain and just losing the game so |
| 7659s | just as in chess I think it's worth |
| 7661s | noting that you should never ever resign |
| 7663s | and you should always play to the last |
| 7667s | end of your games you see you see maybe |
| 7670s | look for an two giants they got plenty |
| 7672s | archers and two giants the opponent got |
| 7675s | what a giant the other two giants died |
| 7678s | and they got archery this is a result |
| 7680s | like this is what I say |
| 7682s | archers I know archers it's in general |
| 7684s | like a tech if |
| 7687s | you you want to try and be very |
| 7690s | efficient and grabbing Tech is not |
| 7694s | efficient that makes sense right you |
| 7697s | need to you need to explain you to try |
| 7700s | and justify if the tech that you want to |
| 7703s | buy is worth the cost like it's like the |
| 7708s | you know how like a like a manufacture |
| 7710s | of some sort has to do research before |
| 7712s | they can get a new product on the market |
| 7715s | it's the same thing they have |
| 7717s | to justify the cost and have to get the |
| 7720s | cost back in again if you're not going |
| 7721s | to get the cost back in then there's no |
| 7723s | point in researching that right okay |
| 7726s | that makes sense this let's see how the |
| 7728s | rest of the game goes these two archers |
| 7731s | cost effect L 16 Stars 16 stars in |
| 7735s | comparison would be five riders or eight |
| 7737s | Warriors if he instead had not been not |
| 7740s | training units for so many turns but |
| 7741s | like trained a lot of units the entire |
| 7743s | time this isue this game would not have |
| 7746s | been like gone this way |
| 7751s | right |
| 7753s | okay oh wow turn 20 is a short |
| 7758s | one like now now you see how the Whoever |
| 7762s | has the army wins the game thing really |
| 7765s | comes into consideration because now the |
| 7767s | Army looks very much into favor of the |
| 7769s | other player that's true because but I |
| 7772s | mean the other Sai players also training |
| 7775s | archers and oh I think it was spe who |
| 7777s | submitted it yes speed is also training |
| 7779s | archers oh and the first Knight didn't |
| 7782s | get through all the way that's |
| 7784s | good and yeah okay that Knight is gone |
| 7792s | right now the player with the two cities |
| 7795s | which is Speedy here is not really |
| 7797s | looking into efficiency right like they |
| 7800s | they don't want |
| 7801s | to like in position where you have stars |
| 7804s | to spend whatever you need you have the |
| 7806s | cities upgraded you can't really upgrade |
| 7807s | them any further for a whole lot that |
| 7810s | it's done you have a lot of income you |
| 7812s | have two cities with good income like |
| 7814s | you make Speedy |
| 7816s | makes 13 stars per turn but has a tech |
| 7819s | cost of two star two cities so you know |
| 7822s | they're going to accumulate quite a bit |
| 7823s | of stars so what they're trying to |
| 7825s | achieve here is to try and get the Army |
| 7827s | in their in their favor so them chaning |
| 7830s | two units here with the Knight although |
| 7831s | it wasn't really |
| 7833s | efficient they |
| 7835s | still they still killed two units for |
| 7838s | one basically right uh let me maybe jump |
| 7841s | in for for quick because Maron has to go |
| 7845s | uh so maybe I will ask one last question |
| 7847s | and we'll finish with with rats with |
| 7850s | this game and then say goodbye to |
| 7852s | everyone so there was one more question |
| 7855s | from uh noas so what do you think the |
| 7859s | next update uh will be about so accept |
| 7862s | the the Aquarian reward what's what are |
| 7865s | your thoughts on that well um I already |
| 7868s | uh tried giving my thoughts on that I |
| 7870s | think uh apart from the actual Aquarian |
| 7872s | update there won't be much of an update |
| 7875s | uh coming um by the way uh I just want |
| 7878s | to see how the game ends real quick here |
| 7880s | um yeah I thought it it will go back and |
| 7883s | forth for for longer but I guess Speedy |
| 7886s | kind of turn this all around which is |
| 7888s | like amazing W this I won't lie that was |
| 7891s | really well played from them yeah |
| 7893s | amazing yeah I thought he's |
| 7895s | done yeah I think they but what what |
| 7898s | about your kind of uh what about your um |
| 7902s | like wishes so what what would you like |
| 7903s | to be changed not only what you predict |
| 7906s | will be |
| 7907s | changed well um I would like to see see |
| 7912s | uh some more use of mind benders I would |
| 7915s | like to see the tech before mind benders |
| 7918s | buffed because right now there is rarely |
| 7921s | any opportunity to get a use of mind |
| 7924s | venders and I really like the unit |
| 7926s | there's been a ton of suggestions to how |
| 7928s | to buff mind venders and I would really |
| 7931s | like to see that implemented but I don't |
| 7933s | really see it coming anytime soon but if |
| 7935s | I could make a wish right now that would |
| 7937s | be mind benders okay what about you |
| 7940s | rats uh I mean obviously I'm a |
| 7943s | competitive player right so I would it |
| 7945s | would |
| 7947s | be stupid for me to say to not ask for a |
| 7950s | not competitive change right and I |
| 7953s | that's definitely what I'm would be |
| 7954s | looking for however I also understand |
| 7957s | that this game wasn't made to be |
| 7959s | competitive and at the same time uh it |
| 7963s | doesn't need to be right mhm however |
| 7966s | there's one thing that I would really |
| 7968s | appreciate that is if you look at map |
| 7971s | gener I already see like a lot of work |
| 7973s | being put into map generation to make it |
| 7975s | more balanced to make it more fair we |
| 7977s | see the introduction of Pangia being a |
| 7978s | really nice and fun map type to play on |
| 7980s | so honestly great |
| 7982s | changes uh what I right now would be |
| 7985s | looking forward to if that would be |
| 7988s | looked into from from the developers |
| 7990s | would be |
| 7992s | to change the not change or reor ruins |
| 7996s | but change the spawns in which they can |
| 7999s | occur so like you don't have this |
| 8000s | instance where and the lon poly pushes |
| 8003s | into a rune and just wins the game by T2 |
| 8005s | yeah but a bit further away from the |
| 8008s | capitals maybe then just like one or two |
| 8010s | tiles and uh at the same time improve a |
| 8014s | bit on more on the map generations to |
| 8015s | make you know |
| 8018s | those it's difficult for me to say what |
| 8021s | I'm missing because I see that there |
| 8022s | have been improving a lot on map |
| 8025s | generation already in the past but |
| 8028s | there's in my opinion still room I |
| 8030s | couldn't Point couldn't point the finger |
| 8031s | to what exactly I would be looking for |
| 8033s | right now in the map generation to be to |
| 8035s | be improved but there something still in |
| 8037s | my op there still Improvement to be made |
| 8039s | that's my opinion but yeah that's like |
| 8042s | my right now it's just like mostly Ru |
| 8045s | generation being too close to capitals |
| 8047s | that can M know just snowballer game |
| 8051s | like I don't really mind if there's a Ru |
| 8052s | next to Village and the opponent gets a |
| 8054s | V and sords spin like that's that's |
| 8055s | something you can deal with because you |
| 8057s | can choose to not take the village kick |
| 8058s | the opponent of the Rune you can contest |
| 8060s | the Rune instead you can play around |
| 8062s | that but if the ruin is next to your |
| 8064s | Capital you claim it it's a star ruin |
| 8066s | for a really weak tribe or it's a you |
| 8068s | know that boost your economy by two |
| 8070s | turns or it's Aion that gets a star |
| 8073s | world and gets Sanctuary set up by turn |
| 8074s | two or something like that it's like why |
| 8077s | you know |
| 8079s | yeah yeah me me myself I I would really |
| 8083s | like to see the team games going because |
| 8085s | it's I think it opens a lot of new |
| 8087s | opportunities for players even you know |
| 8090s | playing casual you know it's like |
| 8092s | playing with uh with family or friends |
| 8095s | you know making teams and playing you |
| 8097s | know against each other that would I |
| 8099s | think um be really uh enjoyable um so I |
| 8104s | hope this this will will be added to the |
| 8107s | game yeah that would be a great addition |
| 8110s | too okay um so thank you R thank you |
| 8113s | maradon for uh reviewing all those games |
| 8117s | I I I hope you you had fun um and uh |
| 8121s | thank you everyone for for watching uh |
| 8124s | we'll be continuing this uh highlights |
| 8127s | uh in this form I think uh it's it's |
| 8131s | more interactive in my opinion than than |
| 8133s | just posting them as as a recording uh |
| 8136s | and you also have the opportunity to um |
| 8140s | to submit your games uh and uh the the |
| 8143s | experts will uh you know go through and |
| 8146s | give you some tips so uh so I think |
| 8148s | we'll keep this uh this format in in the |
| 8150s | future so again thank you guys and hope |
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| 8159s | it was a pleasure hosting here or |
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