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I think the lean is too small and borderline useless now. You need to get so close to the edge to be able to make it useful and by then you would have been shot at.

There is literally no reason to use lean since it gives no advantage to just round the corner. If anything it makes you worse off.

Couldn't the original lean have been kept but the animation changed so that suspects see you? Or something in between.

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almost 2 years ago - /u/Gruntr - Direct link

The original lean was actually 40 degrees on the camera, and the players spine would only bend 20 degrees. So you would run into issues where you could lean around a corner and an AI would be looking right at you, but technically you'd be totally hidden. It made 'em look really stupid and also gave you a massive advantage.

So, if you increase the spine, you run into really strange issues where the player bends unnaturally. Thankfully, there's a solve: use your free-lean. It's been slowed down and polished so it can be more useful + less janky when you need to lean wider! :)

You'll still be slightly safer leaning and clearing around a corner, and we still have some improvements to make (the lean being diminished while moving will be removed).

almost 2 years ago - /u/Gruntr - Direct link

Originally posted by ThatDude292

Just wanted to reply to this since it's directly on topic but I've had a few scenarios where the lean still allows you to be "invisible" to AI if your centered camera is behind cover, both for the Alt lean and normal. I threw a clip in the discord bug reports earlier

I'll have to have a look at that. In our testing the lean made it very hard for AI to miss you when peeking. Damn shame if so! Thanks for logging a report.

almost 2 years ago - /u/Gruntr - Direct link

Originally posted by Many_Cup_1408

Also shelves on post office map are see through. Am always shot through them

Thanks for that. Will have a look.