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| 1s | I've been here one capacity or another |
|---|---|
| 3s | since well pretty early on in the |
| 6s | project um a little bit of background |
| 8s | about me I'm a 20-year law enforcement |
| 10s | officer I work in a Suburban Department |
| 13s | that is uh in a smaller City that |
| 15s | surrounds a much larger City in |
| 17s | metropolitan area um I'm a patrol |
| 20s | sergeant and I work on a collateral Duty |
| 23s | uh SWAT team a pretty large Regional |
| 25s | team we have about 65 uh members to the |
| 29s | team uh I do that where I serve as an |
| 31s | element leader and I am the uh lead of |
| 34s | the firearms training Cadre for that |
| 37s | organization uh I I also work uh as a |
| 40s | instructor for a well-known SWAT |
| 44s | training |
| 45s | organization uh doing branding kind of |
| 48s | all over the |
| 49s | country and that's |
| 51s | me all right and then Mr |
| 55s | 60 hello my name is 60 a whiskey I've |
| 58s | been here for a hot minute now back in |
| 60s | the days of uh easy hey Chris Scott here |
| 62s | let's |
| 63s | go um I was a police officer for about |
| 68s | four years and I was also in the Texas |
| 70s | Army National Guard for six years as a |
| 72s | combat medic I don't have anywhere near |
| 74s | the credentials that Dan does uh I was |
| 77s | just a patrol officer in a Suburban a |
| 79s | small suburban City really enjoyed it |
| 82s | and uh now I make YouTube videos and |
| 84s | work in it so there you |
| 86s | go all right hey guys I now there we go |
| 90s | and then then our uh fashionably late |
| 92s | third um participant uh Chris the cop go |
| 96s | away with your |
| 97s | introduction hey everybody uh Chris aop |
| 100s | here uh I've been a police officer now |
| 101s | for 27 years I actually just retired May |
| 104s | 31st as a chief of police of my own |
| 107s | Police Department I spent uh 22 years on |
| 109s | SWAT with six years as a SWAT Commander |
| 112s | um I first started off as TS a tactical |
| 114s | medic and I had an awesome career and |
| 117s | actually I may be returning um you guys |
| 119s | are hearing for the first time it may be |
| 121s | returning back to law enforcement in the |
| 122s | next couple of months so uh keep your |
| 125s | ears posted uh because definitely um um |
| 129s | my career is not over |
| 131s | yet alrighty wow what a man that's |
| 134s | actually pretty cool so so we got three |
| 137s | three different levels of a uh of |
| 139s | experience here that's actually pretty |
| 141s | Perfect all righty um and I guess we'll |
| 144s | start off with a nice simple one um |
| 148s | going from Chris Dan and than to six |
| 151s | because that's how the voice chat is |
| 152s | ordered um when did you guys know you |
| 155s | wanted to be in law |
| 157s | enforcement well actually for me I'll be |
| 159s | honest I never wanted to be a cop I had |
| 161s | no desire to be a cop as a matter of |
| 163s | fact I really didn't like cops um I was |
| 165s | a paramedic of 10 years and subsequently |
| 168s | I was working for a private ambulance |
| 170s | company and I was not able to provide |
| 172s | for my family so a couple of friends of |
| 173s | mine who work op said hey you know what |
| 175s | dude you get to help people you love |
| 177s | helping people this is right up your |
| 178s | alley and you could definitely make a |
| 179s | difference |
| 181s | and uh I put in my app on the whim and |
| 183s | six months later I was in the police |
| 184s | academy getting yelled at and 27 years |
| 187s | later the rest is history but my friends |
| 188s | were right because though I didn't like |
| 191s | what I had originally seen in police |
| 193s | officers I was able to make a difference |
| 196s | and change that to the point that I even |
| 198s | had my youngest daughter of 25 you know |
| 201s | she's 25 years old now but she decided |
| 203s | to follow my steps and been a cop now |
| 204s | for five years |
| 205s | herself wow that's pretty cool all right |
| 209s | what about you Dan |
| 211s | so I think I've told the story before um |
| 214s | but I became a cop because I misread a |
| 216s | quote from a |
| 219s | book so growing up there in my late |
| 223s | teens uh you know right as I was |
| 224s | graduated high school two things kind of |
| 225s | happened in fairly close succession that |
| 227s | I remember left a big impression on me |
| 230s | it was the North Hollywood shoot dot I |
| 231s | remember seeing live on cable TV in |
| 234s | 97 um and then two years later Coline I |
| 237s | remember watching unfold kind of on |
| 239s | cable TV and so anyway they left a huge |
| 242s | kind of impression in my mind but uh I I |
| 244s | move on I'm in college I was a business |
| 246s | major originally in college chugging |
| 248s | along sitting in financial accounting uh |
| 251s | and I started to remember a book I read |
| 253s | when I was in high school they made |
| 255s | everyone read ourtown which is is a book |
| 257s | about turn of the 20th century small |
| 260s | town America and the third chapter in |
| 262s | the book third act takes place in the |
| 265s | cemetery after all the characters have |
| 266s | died and they sit around kind of |
| 268s | thinking about their lives and talking |
| 269s | it over think about it and um one of the |
| 272s | quotes as I remembered it sitting in |
| 274s | this class was that you know a life is |
| 276s | odd and that only maybe one in a |
| 278s | thousand is ever very interesting so |
| 281s | sitting in Financial Accounting in |
| 283s | college in the early very early |
| 286s | 2000 um that goes through my mind and I |
| 289s | spontaneously say I'm G to I'm going to |
| 290s | go be a cop and have some interesting |
| 292s | stories to tell when I'm at my grave |
| 294s | except a couple years ago I went back |
| 296s | and reread that book and it's actually a |
| 298s | quote about a wedding only one wedding |
| 299s | in a 000 is ever very interesting oh my |
| 302s | go I've LED my entire adult life based |
| 304s | on a quote from a book that I |
| 306s | misread I mean choosing your path as an |
| 310s | adult based on a lie honestly seems |
| 312s | pretty uh pretty on brand for most |
| 314s | people I know so it's poetic it's poetic |
| 316s | man |
| 318s | yeah all right and then last but most |
| 321s | certainly not least Mr 60 hello I always |
| 324s | knew I wanted to be in law enforcement |
| 326s | since I was a kid I always knew that I |
| 327s | wanted to do it my parents were |
| 329s | definitely not for it so whenever I went |
| 331s | to college I was like all right let me |
| 333s | do criminal justice like a schmuck |
| 335s | because that's what you do um but in the |
| 338s | middle of that I I really felt the need |
| 340s | to help people so I joined the Army |
| 343s | National Guard about like a year and a |
| 344s | half into my college um tenure and then |
| 349s | when I was in there I got a TBI in basic |
| 351s | training so then when I got back my |
| 354s | grades plummeted they they were no good |
| 357s | so my parents like Hey listen we think |
| 358s | you might need to take a break from from |
| 360s | college you know let's think about |
| 362s | options you know just maybe take a |
| 363s | semester off you just stay here at home |
| 365s | I was like well no if I'm if I'm not |
| 368s | doing something I'm gonna go be a cop |
| 369s | they're like wait wait wait |
| 372s | wait so um yeah ultimately I first city |
| 376s | I wanted to go to I I applied to got in |
| 379s | and um that's that's it man I I always |
| 383s | knew I wanted to be in law |
| 385s | enforcement all right short and sweet |
| 387s | let's go um all right right now um we |
| 392s | did uh gather questions from our |
| 394s | community in the past about week or so |
| 396s | so we're kind kind we're going to be |
| 397s | opening up our uh opening up our |
| 401s | questioning to just kind of organically |
| 403s | answering the questions as they roll |
| 404s | through |
| 406s | um and I guess uh something that |
| 409s | actually came up in a lot of different |
| 411s | forms is how often does a SWAT officer |
| 414s | get called into action is it something |
| 417s | you see in Ready or Not where they will |
| 419s | often get get deployed for various |
| 422s | levels of threats or is it kind of like |
| 424s | a once in a career sort of thing where |
| 426s | you're deployed |
| 429s | deployed um you know honestly it um so |
| 433s | it really is so SWAT has uh you know |
| 436s | they have their job duties that they do |
| 438s | when they're not being deployed but SWAT |
| 440s | is really there as a function to for |
| 442s | initially for patrol services so Patrol |
| 444s | Services gets overwhelmed with something |
| 447s | then um SWAT will get called out and |
| 450s | quite frankly we have the resources to |
| 451s | handle just about every situation |
| 453s | majority of the time though we're spent |
| 455s | usually serving search warrants um for |
| 458s | Narcotics or highrisk search warrants |
| 460s | for detectives um that's the bulk of the |
| 463s | time that is taken up and then you get |
| 465s | the stuff where you get called out for a |
| 466s | you know barricaded suspect and that |
| 468s | type of stuff so that's where you know |
| 470s | all that comes into place at least for |
| 472s | in I'm GNA give you the Southern |
| 473s | California |
| 475s | perspective all righty what about a oh |
| 479s | go sorry I was say to build on what |
| 481s | Chris kind of said there I he's |
| 483s | essentially spoton um you know there's |
| 485s | the big three of SWAT callouts that we |
| 487s | do being Warren service barricade |
| 489s | resolution and hostage rescue being the |
| 491s | third and by far the most rare that we |
| 493s | end up actually doing um is terms of the |
| 497s | intensity of events um you |
| 502s | know I I've probably had a |
| 504s | disproportionate number of those Black |
| 506s | Swan events kind of come up in my career |
| 508s | the odd ones and it's still really a |
| 511s | handful depending on where you work is |
| 514s | going to depend on the call volume for |
| 515s | your SWAT team so there may be teams |
| 516s | somewhere in the country that have |
| 517s | relatively low you know maybe 20 call |
| 519s | outs a year 20 operations a year to a |
| 522s | large Metropolitan team might have you |
| 524s | know several hundred now some of that's |
| 528s | far less interesting than you would |
| 529s | think so like a major Metropolitan team |
| 532s | may have a quick reaction force for any |
| 534s | major event a sporting event something |
| 535s | like that where they have a team just |
| 537s | standing by somewhere and in the event |
| 538s | something happens and that's by the |
| 540s | Numbers technically a call out or or an |
| 543s | operation but it's also not certainly |
| 545s | something that you you would call a uh |
| 548s | you would think of in terms of stuff |
| 549s | that happens in Game um but I mean the |
| 553s | the the events portrayed in the game are |
| 554s | certainly the outliers to to your |
| 557s | average call |
| 561s | out all right yeah for a city of like |
| 564s | our size where I was working we were |
| 567s | like d was talking about we had we had a |
| 568s | real team so it combined like almost |
| 571s | five or six cities that were nearby |
| 573s | because honestly we didn't the swad team |
| 576s | didn't get called out for much and when |
| 578s | it they were it was a lot of call outs |
| 581s | so there wasn't a whole lot of you know |
| 583s | actually kicking down doors and doing a |
| 585s | whole lot it was just hey get out of |
| 587s | your house and then people out surrender |
| 590s | themselves and then they do a search |
| 592s | warrant and that was it so not a lot of |
| 594s | uh interesting stuff going on there and |
| 597s | I guess a extension on the um first |
| 599s | question from onion ring is how how |
| 602s | often are um in in a case where you're |
| 605s | deployed to a home or deployed to a area |
| 610s | with a suspect how how how common is it |
| 613s | for you to have to discharge your |
| 616s | Firearms um the lucky part for SWAT and |
| 619s | that's the reason why SWAT gets called |
| 620s | is you know it it it chalks up to the |
| 622s | name of special weapons and tactics |
| 624s | that's exactly where it's it's the |
| 626s | actual tactics we got the weapons and |
| 628s | fortunately for us um it's because of |
| 630s | those tactics that we're basically on a |
| 632s | life- saving mission where Patrol |
| 634s | services does not have the capability if |
| 636s | Patrol were to handle um the situations |
| 639s | that we handle it would probably end in |
| 641s | an officer involved shooting fortunately |
| 643s | for us because of the special tactics |
| 645s | and the resources we have our operations |
| 648s | will about 99% of the time end safely |
| 653s | what no one hurt maybe some less lethal |
| 654s | used but it's going to be that 1% that's |
| 657s | really that's going to be a 1% where we |
| 659s | really you have an officer involved |
| 663s | shooting yeah I I think um you know by |
| 666s | the Numbers the national averages work |
| 668s | out to we end up as SWAT using any type |
| 671s | of force so anything from you know doing |
| 674s | an arm bar takedown on somebody and |
| 676s | forcefully handcuffing them up to deadly |
| 678s | force in 10% of call outs I believe it |
| 680s | is somewhere around there in deadly |
| 682s | physical force in less than 2% uh so I |
| 686s | mean ideally we would use it in no event |
| 690s | but obviously the bad guy gets to say |
| 691s | and kind of how things play out and I |
| 693s | think those numbers are pretty pretty |
| 695s | defensible um you know the thing to keep |
| 698s | in mind is that we get called out |
| 700s | because we want to be put in situations |
| 702s | where we establish that resistance is |
| 705s | going to be feudal and therefore |
| 706s | surrender is likely so if if you give |
| 709s | people an option and they see that they |
| 711s | they might have a chance then they're |
| 712s | going to take that chance so that's why |
| 714s | we bring a lot to the table and kind of |
| 715s | force negotiation Force surrender uh and |
| 718s | are able to get those numbers as low as |
| 720s | they actually |
| 722s | are yep ditto nothing else to add I'll |
| 726s | I'll be honest from a uh from Outsider |
| 728s | perspective with um with admittedly |
| 730s | having um not only |
| 734s | um uh not only a whole bunch of |
| 736s | different Outlets I follow but having a |
| 738s | bunch of family that was um State |
| 740s | sheriffs |
| 742s | Troopers um and Patrol cops I am |
| 746s | genuinely surprised with some of the |
| 748s | stories they give that the number is |
| 749s | actually as low as |
| 751s | 10% yeah defitely for any sort of actual |
| 754s | like um combative violence I guess would |
| 757s | be a good way to mention it because you |
| 760s | know |
| 761s | most uh if you say violence in general |
| 764s | that that kind of does cover a little |
| 765s | bit of a to Broad of a of a breadth of |
| 769s | what we're talking about um but |
| 772s | yeah um all right I |
| 776s | something uh what else what else do we |
| 778s | got we got lots of good good questions |
| 779s | here |
| 782s | um uh question from Sten the awesome um |
| 787s | what is your favorite training you |
| 789s | attended and |
| 792s | why um you know what um my favorite |
| 796s | training and I'm it's going to be far |
| 798s | from SWAT is when I got to go to motor |
| 800s | school and become a motor officer um |
| 802s | learning how to ride a motorcycle um The |
| 805s | Way We Ride it was phenomenal and they |
| 808s | always say that that's probably the |
| 810s | certificate that you cherish the most |
| 812s | and I actually cherish that certificate |
| 814s | more than I ever cherished any of my |
| 816s | SWAT certificate so for me it was motor |
| 817s | trainy nothing to do with |
| 819s | SWAT hey that's still pretty cool though |
| 823s | yeah it |
| 825s | was I I think I will give a shout out |
| 828s | here uh and I don't know how many |
| 831s | shooters we have been listening here but |
| 833s | if we do have you know people that that |
| 835s | like to go out and shoot um I'll give a |
| 837s | shout out to uh Chuck pressberg press |
| 839s | Consulting he has two classes no fail |
| 841s | handgun and no fail rifle uh they are |
| 844s | absolutely phenomenal classes they're |
| 846s | geared towards law enforcement but you |
| 848s | know responsible armed citizen should |
| 850s | take them as well um they're not |
| 852s | necessarily mechanics of shooting class |
| 853s | so much as they are |
| 855s | a discipline |
| 858s | um in uh control class in terms of |
| 863s | controlling your emotions in deadly |
| 865s | force encounters and situations where a |
| 868s | errant round is unacceptable |
| 870s | so you the hostage rescue stuff like |
| 872s | that you see unfortunately often times |
| 875s | the analyze shootings where people are |
| 877s | kind of firing as an emotional reaction |
| 879s | or they're having an emotional response |
| 881s | to this event that's going on um and |
| 883s | they're putting a lot of bullets out |
| 885s | that aren't hitting anybody but are |
| 886s | going somewhere and that's that's |
| 888s | unacceptable um so I would recommend |
| 890s | anybody that likes to shoot to go take |
| 891s | one of Chuck's classes um yeah hard not |
| 895s | not not an easy class uh two two very |
| 898s | long days of shooting but totally |
| 900s | applicable and and something people |
| 902s | should |
| 903s | take all |
| 906s | right uh for me I think my favorite |
| 909s | class was alert um that was super super |
| 913s | cool to but RPD put it on but |
| 915s | essentially it's all room clearing and |
| 918s | thread ID and a lot of the stuff that I |
| 921s | talk about on my channel is super super |
| 924s | interesting um but yeah you we would go |
| 926s | to like old abandoned churches and do |
| 928s | room cing with you know a bunch of our |
| 931s | SWAT guys watching us and critiquing the |
| 934s | heck out of us but it was good I loved |
| 936s | it it was it was great because it it |
| 938s | made me so much better like if we had |
| 940s | like an Open Door call for a house I |
| 943s | would go in there knowing what to do and |
| 945s | not just like you know fumbling around |
| 947s | like some of the uh older guys um but |
| 951s | that as well as sto the bleed class if |
| 954s | y'all have not attended one of those and |
| 956s | you're you know interested in law |
| 957s | enforcement or medical stuff I I would |
| 959s | heavily encourage you to go to a stop |
| 962s | the bleed class where people are |
| 963s | credentialed and everything but that |
| 966s | that can help you immensely um in any |
| 968s | situation |
| 973s | so okay um I am honestly a little |
| 977s | surprised that the uh that that the uh |
| 979s | bike training came up but that that is |
| 981s | something kind of that that does tend to |
| 983s | get get a little overlooked as far as |
| 986s | kind of the some of the cool stuff that |
| 988s | that cops get to do |
| 990s | so actually really cool boots with that |
| 992s | too oh yeah the the the oh the |
| 996s | leather it's like oh very good look just |
| 1000s | just just just do your best chips |
| 1002s | impression it it'll make job job a lot |
| 1006s | easier that's the best part of being a |
| 1008s | motor officer is wearing those boots |
| 1009s | I'll be |
| 1013s | honest all righty um this sounds like a |
| 1016s | fun one um a question from Maximus |
| 1019s | um what's the most interesting tactical |
| 1022s | equipment you've seen or tried either as |
| 1025s | um a police officer or a swad officer |
| 1028s | like the ex ex examples they gave are |
| 1031s | like different kinds of drones the you |
| 1033s | know uh big armored vehicles kind of you |
| 1036s | know different kinds of lasers lights |
| 1039s | that kind of |
| 1040s | stuff um well you know what for me the |
| 1044s | the thing that I thought was the most |
| 1045s | awesome was the 40mm to be able to shoot |
| 1047s | a foam projectile someone at the center |
| 1051s | Mass um from less than um you know 25t |
| 1054s | away well back when it first came out it |
| 1055s | was a point blank but then they made it |
| 1056s | 25 but when that thing hits somebody and |
| 1059s | it knocks the wind out of them uh that |
| 1061s | thing's pretty awesome because the first |
| 1063s | time I had ever seen one was when I seen |
| 1065s | Terminator when he starts shooting out |
| 1067s | the grenades at the SWAT team at the |
| 1069s | very uh end of I think it was T T2 so to |
| 1073s | use that one day was like oh this thing |
| 1075s | is freaking |
| 1076s | awesome uh the uh the deadly Nerf |
| 1082s | fall um man there's so we live in a |
| 1085s | phenomenal time for technology and stuff |
| 1087s | drones are totally changing the way we |
| 1089s | do stuff um I would say if I were |
| 1091s | picking something cool that not everyone |
| 1092s | knows about some Las Vegas Metro guys |
| 1094s | recently were were showing me they have |
| 1096s | a thing it's called The Wolf tracker |
| 1099s | with two FS w o l FF tracker um super |
| 1103s | cool they're these little sensors you |
| 1105s | can put them on the outside of walls and |
| 1106s | they use um sonar radar some kind of R |
| 1110s | whatever um to go through the walls and |
| 1113s | they will light up if there's motion on |
| 1115s | the inside of the wall so they put them |
| 1117s | all over like on a barricade all over |
| 1119s | the outside of the structure of the |
| 1120s | house and the different rooms and then |
| 1122s | you can watch them light up as somebody |
| 1124s | moves through that room from the outside |
| 1125s | of the house oh that's cool as hell yeah |
| 1128s | they go through concrete they go through |
| 1131s | whatever um super cool |
| 1137s | stuff yes |
| 1139s | um I think one of the coolest things |
| 1141s | I've I've had the pleasure of seeing in |
| 1144s | person is the um I'm blinking on the |
| 1146s | name now great uh but essentially it's a |
| 1150s | drone that is built into the light bar |
| 1152s | of the police unit so essentially from |
| 1156s | inside the car for like trying to search |
| 1157s | for somebody that ran away you can |
| 1160s | deploy a drone from the top of your |
| 1162s | vehicle and it's tethered so you can go |
| 1164s | up to like 100 feet up in the air and |
| 1166s | you don't need to worry about like |
| 1168s | holding on to it or controlling it in |
| 1169s | any way it just stays put and it has a |
| 1172s | thermal as night vision on it it's super |
| 1176s | super cool um very effective tool |
| 1179s | so I never heard of anything like that |
| 1181s | before that that is an actual cyber Punk |
| 1183s | [ __ ] let's go I |
| 1187s | know um and I guess while while the |
| 1189s | thoughts are fresh we can um lead |
| 1192s | straight into an extended uh portion of |
| 1194s | the question from um a member of our |
| 1196s | modern Community akami um |
| 1200s | uh they had a question regard regarding |
| 1203s | uh regarding B uh your primary weapon |
| 1207s | um uh they are curious if you are |
| 1211s | allowed to say purchase your own Optics |
| 1215s | lights lasers grips all all that kind of |
| 1218s | fun stuff or if you have to use what the |
| 1221s | officer sorry what the um your |
| 1223s | department is providing |
| 1226s | you well for me it was quite simple |
| 1230s | what we what the department offered is |
| 1232s | what we carried um you could modify just |
| 1234s | slightly but it had to be with the |
| 1236s | approval of a range Master but you |
| 1238s | couldn't have something totally |
| 1239s | different from your partners it all had |
| 1241s | to be at least the same platform and |
| 1242s | Prof uh yeah |
| 1246s | platform so we have um we have an |
| 1249s | approved weapons list there's there's |
| 1250s | you know there's a standardized weapon |
| 1252s | but then we have additional approved |
| 1253s | weapons which are on a list created by |
| 1256s | well me so I guess I'm lucky you know I |
| 1258s | get to pick what what we end up with um |
| 1261s | so uh you know it's a pretty good |
| 1264s | selection of of firearms you know uh |
| 1267s | it's going to vary from Department to |
| 1269s | Department how how this is structured |
| 1270s | but like I run a Bravo Company |
| 1272s | rifle maybe that might be a coincidental |
| 1275s | hint why there's one in the game um and |
| 1278s | I'm running either a Glock or a staccato |
| 1281s | pistol |
| 1284s | um having a big selection of guns in |
| 1287s | real life is probably not as important |
| 1289s | as it is in game totally get in game why |
| 1291s | we like it I'm a gun guy I got a lot of |
| 1292s | different things but um you know more or |
| 1296s | less officers are standardized on some |
| 1297s | form of an AR-15 rifle and some type of |
| 1301s | polymer frame double stack |
| 1304s | semi-automatic |
| 1308s | handgun yep just before I I got out um |
| 1312s | we were carrying Block 17 Gen 5ivs and |
| 1315s | with an armr and a flashlight and that |
| 1318s | you're weapon that you couldn't change |
| 1321s | that that that was like everyone in the |
| 1323s | department has the exact same thing as |
| 1325s | far as like a a duty rifle or a patrol |
| 1328s | rifle um at that point like Dan was |
| 1331s | talking about there's an approved list |
| 1333s | of you know companies or manufacturers |
| 1336s | um and then you could pick from those if |
| 1339s | you'd like or you could take the uh BCM |
| 1342s | that the department offered a great |
| 1343s | great rifle um but yeah like I said |
| 1346s | before customization and stuff like that |
| 1348s | had to to be approved by a range Master |
| 1351s | like Dan was talking about so |
| 1353s | essentially yes you can with a lot of |
| 1357s | caveats full |
| 1359s | disclosure yeah full disclosure Paul |
| 1361s | Buffon from BCM bought me a rifle |
| 1364s | following a shooting |
| 1366s | unreal so my C out yeah my opinion may |
| 1370s | not be objective |
| 1374s | here all right um |
| 1379s | oh |
| 1382s | that I always thought you guys had had a |
| 1384s | little more freedom than uh than you had |
| 1387s | mentioned but it's kind of interesting |
| 1389s | that you both have a lot of freedom but |
| 1391s | also not a lot of freedom to kind of mix |
| 1394s | things up a little |
| 1397s | bit but keeping standardization intact |
| 1400s | is kind of a an important thing |
| 1401s | especially when you're operating with |
| 1402s | the unit of any level of professionalism |
| 1409s | um all right and I guess a |
| 1412s | uh I guess we can start into some real |
| 1414s | fun questions get get get some of the |
| 1417s | hot takes on board um questions from |
| 1419s | agent Bobcat what's the most unrealistic |
| 1422s | thing in Ready or |
| 1425s | Not the AI the flipping |
| 1430s | AI come on |
| 1432s | man just right to the right to the soft |
| 1436s | spot I'm not even going I'm not even |
| 1438s | going to soft start with the softball |
| 1441s | answer the |
| 1445s | AI I I will you're right uh but I I will |
| 1449s | give it a a different spin on it which |
| 1451s | is just the we've already discussed |
| 1453s | the AI necessitating use of force as |
| 1457s | often as it is um certainly we very |
| 1460s | rarely in real life have to use Force |
| 1462s | against against our opponents uh against |
| 1465s | people we take into custody um you know |
| 1468s | and that's obviously it's a factor of it |
| 1470s | being a game we we we you want to uh |
| 1473s | have to engage the bad guy in a game as |
| 1475s | opposed to real |
| 1478s | life I will take another spin on the AI |
| 1481s | and say that five members of the SWAT |
| 1484s | team cannot take a 10,000 square foot |
| 1486s | post office by |
| 1489s | themselves there in this sort of |
| 1491s | situation you have a lot more people |
| 1493s | than just five |
| 1495s | dudes so so my kind of take on has |
| 1499s | always been and this has come up before |
| 1501s | with people I I have always interpreted |
| 1503s | we are not the sum total of the Los SOS |
| 1505s | Police Department SWAT team here as we |
| 1507s | respond to this we you know we represent |
| 1510s | one element that's that's doing |
| 1512s | something in the scheme of some much |
| 1514s | larger thing that's going on yeah is is |
| 1517s | the uh the way I've always interpreted |
| 1520s | it yeah unfortunately sorry I was gonna |
| 1525s | say and El joking aside um you gotta you |
| 1528s | got to put put the players in a shoot |
| 1530s | situation because they're they're not |
| 1531s | playing it like you know we would do it |
| 1534s | in real life they want to they want to |
| 1536s | have the ois they want to have that |
| 1538s | challenge so um but when we play it it's |
| 1542s | just frustrating for us as real police |
| 1543s | officers because we're like wait a |
| 1544s | minute I should not have to shoot this |
| 1546s | person or I need 10 more operators so |
| 1549s | that's where and I think like whiskey |
| 1550s | and I when we play when we play this |
| 1552s | game we acknowledge that and that's why |
| 1553s | we don't really bash it too bad just |
| 1555s | because it is what it is because it |
| 1557s | still has to be a playable fun yeah yeah |
| 1559s | you do have to have that um that |
| 1562s | suspension of reality for the game in |
| 1565s | its form to exist because um you can go |
| 1568s | all the way back to pre SWAT and talk |
| 1571s | about um like police quests one through |
| 1573s | three where it is a lot less about um or |
| 1578s | uh or hell even something that came out |
| 1580s | a handful of years ago um we are the |
| 1582s | police uh one and one and two where it's |
| 1586s | all more about everything except the |
| 1588s | actual engage direct engagement of |
| 1591s | criminals that is unfortunately not what |
| 1594s | they um even though it would be cool to |
| 1596s | see void's take on it it is not uh not |
| 1599s | what a uh Ready or Not is about yeah I |
| 1603s | mean I I remember one time on a |
| 1605s | barricade sitting outside so long that I |
| 1607s | watched a swimming pool freeze um I |
| 1609s | don't think that translates well into |
| 1611s | game plan |
| 1613s | yeah think some Gamers might not enjoy L |
| 1617s | watching paint dry is a game though if |
| 1619s | you you |
| 1621s | really watching paint dry Arma we can we |
| 1624s | can call it two separate things let's |
| 1627s | here I say as an Arma enjoyer talking |
| 1630s | all of the |
| 1632s | [ __ ] um |
| 1635s | alrighty uh would be good good hop off |
| 1638s | for that um actually this would be |
| 1640s | perfect from uh question from |
| 1643s | hntr um if you had to implement a |
| 1647s | singular feature make right or not |
| 1650s | more um more analogous to a real life |
| 1653s | SWAT |
| 1655s | engagement what would you |
| 1658s | add um you know I think for me which |
| 1661s | is you know what I don't know if this is |
| 1664s | doable but I would love to see maybe an |
| 1665s | operator function where I could pretend |
| 1667s | instead of using a wedge that I'm |
| 1668s | putting an operator to guard a door I |
| 1670s | mean I get that the the game can only |
| 1672s | handle so much so I I can't I can't see |
| 1674s | it like taking in 10 operators like a |
| 1676s | realistic but maybe it's one of those |
| 1678s | things where I can call up a trailer and |
| 1679s | a trailer could guard that door instead |
| 1681s | of using a wedge and then you know and |
| 1684s | then at that point in time if someone |
| 1685s | does pop out that that trailer is able |
| 1687s | to neutralize the suspect I I think I'd |
| 1690s | just like to see something like that |
| 1691s | because then I could keep moving the |
| 1692s | fiveman element you know down the |
| 1693s | hallways and stuff like that um and uh |
| 1696s | you know |
| 1697s | and that would make it I I I I I would |
| 1700s | like that element that that's for that's |
| 1704s | me I I think I'm going to abstain from |
| 1707s | this one only because I kind of know a |
| 1709s | little bit about what's going on behind |
| 1710s | the curtains and have some input on that |
| 1712s | and I don't necessarily want to give |
| 1714s | anything away um yeah both uh nor nor do |
| 1717s | I want to say anything that is going to |
| 1719s | be taken as gospel as something that's |
| 1721s | coming down down the pike either so yeah |
| 1723s | both both Sterling and barad would would |
| 1725s | bend you over a barrel if you uh reveal |
| 1728s | some of the stuff we got going on leak |
| 1730s | leak all of the |
| 1732s | leaks I uh yeah I think that for the |
| 1737s | suspect AI just to have more |
| 1739s | interactions that result in surrendering |
| 1742s | I think |
| 1743s | that a majority of the time it ends in a |
| 1745s | shootout and again that that can be fun |
| 1748s | but at some points it's just like okay |
| 1749s | well I'm going in there and shooting |
| 1751s | everybody I I'd like to see more more |
| 1755s | surrendering with larger uses of force |
| 1757s | because I know that the AI reacts pretty |
| 1760s | strongly if you act strongly right so if |
| 1762s | you're kicking down doors throwing in |
| 1763s | flashbangs using C2 they'll respond to |
| 1766s | that but I'd also like that to be more |
| 1768s | of an intimidation rather than increase |
| 1770s | of aggression because if you've ever |
| 1773s | been around C2 if you've been on the |
| 1775s | opposite side of that door that's not |
| 1778s | fun especially having a flashbang go off |
| 1781s | at your feet not fun at all so yeah it's |
| 1784s | I think suspect AI just getting a little |
| 1786s | bit more soft I should say okay there |
| 1790s | kind of more more things also you know |
| 1792s | what I was just I'll throw one last |
| 1794s | thing in there I think would actually |
| 1796s | kind of be neat maybe it's coming um I |
| 1797s | think I've heard hint about it but just |
| 1799s | that PVP function because it is a lot of |
| 1801s | fun to challenge your fellow it because |
| 1804s | you know we're all SWAT off I mean a lot |
| 1805s | of us that we play together like only |
| 1807s | cops myself 60 whiskey 68 we're all cops |
| 1810s | and I think this part of it would be |
| 1811s | that competition of can we take each |
| 1813s | other out and that would be cool God yes |
| 1816s | I would yes I guess this would be a very |
| 1819s | good thing a very good thing to kind of |
| 1820s | reput in people's memory um we are |
| 1823s | bringing back PVP we don't have a but we |
| 1826s | are 100% absolutely confirmed to be |
| 1829s | bringing back PVP and just like the B |
| 1832s | clavas that were removed I do not |
| 1835s | believe we will be um charging for it |
| 1838s | because it was originally removed from |
| 1840s | the game so it' be kind of a a big issue |
| 1843s | to charge for something that we got a |
| 1845s | lot of people in the game for yeah PPP |
| 1849s | come on I had heard it was actually |
| 1853s | bakaa the delicious Italian past Bava |
| 1856s | yeah oh no |
| 1859s | yeah make the B of clava not model |
| 1862s | specific come on |
| 1863s | man um oh I I I got I got one last |
| 1866s | request what you |
| 1868s | got can we just name Valley of the Dolls |
| 1870s | Epstein Island just get it over let's |
| 1873s | go let's |
| 1877s | go that's what we call it when we play |
| 1879s | it oh actually one one one I'm sorry one |
| 1882s | last thing on the nightclub mat make the |
| 1884s | Roe like increase I'm sorry if the FBI |
| 1887s | is like responding to something like |
| 1889s | that not too many people are walking out |
| 1892s | of that building I'm just saying that |
| 1895s | that is valid I will give you that I |
| 1897s | guess we could hit that briefly if if we |
| 1899s | want to it's I saw several questions |
| 1901s | about Roe and kind of how that applies |
| 1903s | to to ready or not I could quickly hit |
| 1906s | that I suppose um I I've gone into it a |
| 1909s | lot kind of behind the scenes with void |
| 1911s | and how Roe works really truly in law |
| 1915s | enforcement Roe isn't actually a thing |
| 1918s | um what we have is justifiable use of |
| 1920s | force under the Constitution State law |
| 1923s | and policy um Roe is a little bit |
| 1925s | different it's someone setting specific |
| 1928s | terms uh for when you can use whatever |
| 1931s | level of force in in the |
| 1934s | circumstances in domestic law |
| 1936s | enforcement we're required to do things |
| 1938s | which are objectively reasonable or in |
| 1941s | Chris Chris Works in California you can |
| 1942s | correct me if I'm wrong they they |
| 1943s | recently changed the law the wording a |
| 1945s | little bit to be necessary rather than |
| 1947s | objectively reasonable believe um which |
| 1950s | seems interchangeable but does create |
| 1952s | some difficulties um so really what |
| 1957s | you're looking at is what's going on in |
| 1959s | the totality of the circumstances and |
| 1961s | then is what your action is whatever |
| 1963s | level of force you're using is that |
| 1964s | objectively reasonable so if this person |
| 1966s | has opportunity ability and has |
| 1969s | demonstrated the intent to commit death |
| 1971s | or serious bodily injury upon somebody |
| 1973s | else you know deadly physical force is |
| 1976s | certainly reasonable under those C |
| 1978s | circumstances under almost all |
| 1980s | circumstances like that so um let me |
| 1983s | follow up on that with you then it can |
| 1985s | we get the little um fling felon action |
| 1988s | in there you know because I've had that |
| 1992s | happen yeah yeah because I get I get |
| 1994s | penalized whenever homeboy is running |
| 1997s | straight towards a civilian with a gun |
| 1999s | in his hand and I shoot him I'm like |
| 2002s | well justifiable use of force as with |
| 2005s | everything it comes down you know it |
| 2007s | certainly comes down to balancing having |
| 2009s | a gameplay mechanic that that rewards |
| 2011s | using less lethal um you know as well as |
| 2014s | then trying to put something into |
| 2016s | position that somewhat replicates real |
| 2018s | life obviously you know these horrendous |
| 2021s | mass shooting scenarios that you're |
| 2023s | playing through in the game these people |
| 2025s | have demonstrated opportunity ability |
| 2026s | and intent and anything short of |
| 2029s | immediate surrender would almost |
| 2031s | certainly be totally reasonable to use |
| 2034s | deadly for because you're approaching a |
| 2036s | known threat that has an like like you |
| 2039s | said has the ability and has The History |
| 2041s | of Violence especially immediate |
| 2045s | violence |
| 2047s | so uh a lot of that does does |
| 2050s | unfortunately come down to like you guys |
| 2052s | have mentioned in various forms both as |
| 2054s | realistic and play as realistic as |
| 2056s | playable and the of what kind of the |
| 2060s | system that void has in place is capable |
| 2062s | of registering in its current forms |
| 2066s | um you know we're con improving as time |
| 2069s | goes on so things things will change Dan |
| 2073s | knows some some of the bits of of what's |
| 2075s | coming and he's just kind of sitting |
| 2077s | there make no comment yeah unreal |
| 2081s | unreal I plead the |
| 2083s | fifth play the fifth and your |
| 2089s | NDA all right I guess I guess since |
| 2091s | we're on on some um on some uh on some |
| 2096s | higher tones and actually following up |
| 2098s | of of something Chris had mentioned with |
| 2099s | the PVP um a question from epic gamer |
| 2102s | 877 oh my God that name um that's a |
| 2105s | great name do you see Airsoft as a |
| 2107s | useful form of force on Force training |
| 2109s | and a little bit of an extension from me |
| 2112s | um if not Airsoft is it |
| 2116s | simunitions yeah we just use simunitions |
| 2118s | they hurt |
| 2122s | more yeah um I mean anything you know |
| 2125s | where you're doing some sort of force on |
| 2127s | force can have AB absolute value in |
| 2128s | training it it really all comes down to |
| 2130s | the structure of the the training and |
| 2133s | the role players that you get in terms |
| 2134s | of what the quality is um you know if if |
| 2137s | it's not structured well if the role |
| 2138s | players AR aren't doing what they're |
| 2140s | supposed to be doing then it ends up |
| 2141s | being a game and you lose the value in |
| 2143s | it um but certainly you know as a |
| 2146s | lowcost no cost way of of doing it |
| 2149s | Airsoft is an option and sometimes you |
| 2152s | know depending on where you're training |
| 2153s | at may be the only option you have if |
| 2155s | you if you're training in a place that |
| 2157s | most of of the places we train or close |
| 2159s | down terrible black mold filled former |
| 2163s | and hospitals and whatever we get our |
| 2164s | hands on but sometimes you get some play |
| 2166s | nice that you don't want to destroy um |
| 2169s | you and |
| 2170s | simunition they're they're safe but they |
| 2172s | can certainly break things when they go |
| 2173s | through so that may be the only option |
| 2175s | you have if you're uh you if Airsoft is |
| 2179s | it for you or for that matter if you're |
| 2181s | in a civilian world now uh some munition |
| 2183s | has been reclassified by the ATF as a |
| 2186s | non- ortable uh munition so companies |
| 2190s | that do simunition training on the |
| 2191s | civilian side are running into problems |
| 2193s | getting |
| 2194s | them yeah like for our alert classes we |
| 2198s | use simunition like d was talking about |
| 2200s | especially in those really decrepit |
| 2201s | broken down places because no one really |
| 2203s | cares if one hits the wall it's not that |
| 2206s | big of a deal but um sometimes yeah |
| 2209s | Airsoft is an absolutely great way to |
| 2212s | train like we had one night where I'm |
| 2214s | going to use the keyword was really |
| 2216s | quiet and so we uh we got to the |
| 2219s | briefing room like hey you want to do |
| 2220s | some training so we did impromptu |
| 2222s | Airsoft training one of our sergeants |
| 2224s | had an airsoft gun and so we working |
| 2226s | through slicing the pie working through |
| 2228s | how to handle Corner fed room Center fed |
| 2230s | rooms um doing that with an airsoft gun |
| 2234s | can give |
| 2235s | you a limited experience on that kind of |
| 2239s | in the same way that Ready or Not can be |
| 2241s | a way to practice mentally right anytime |
| 2244s | you're going to a call you're always |
| 2246s | practicing or mentally preparing |
| 2248s | yourself for what that call is going to |
| 2250s | be and Ready or Not can kind of do that |
| 2252s | in the same way where you're like okay |
| 2254s | if I want to enter this room how would I |
| 2256s | do this in real life and you train that |
| 2258s | way and so that way whenever it comes to |
| 2260s | being real life you're like okay I've |
| 2262s | kind of in a in a weird way already |
| 2264s | played this before I played this out |
| 2266s | already um so yeah using Airsoft just as |
| 2269s | much as ready or not I mean it can be a |
| 2271s | great tool to to train |
| 2274s | yeah all right and I guess um some of |
| 2277s | the words you said again make a perfect |
| 2280s | segue to a um a question we got from |
| 2283s | degenerate uh username degenerate not a |
| 2285s | degenerate because have a lot of those |
| 2287s | here |
| 2288s | um and they worded it very nicely um no |
| 2293s | human out there is immune to fear how |
| 2296s | have you learned to act as rationally as |
| 2297s | you can while being |
| 2302s | afraid um you know I'll be honest you're |
| 2306s | afraid when you're in the planning stage |
| 2309s | I mean I'll sit there and we're doing |
| 2311s | our our briefing um you know about what |
| 2314s | we're about to do and then once we go |
| 2317s | hot um I think from I know for myself |
| 2321s | and I don't want to speak for everybody |
| 2322s | but I think it might be the same is that |
| 2324s | it's kind of gone and that because |
| 2326s | you're on that mission and then once |
| 2328s | it's over um is when you realize Dam |
| 2331s | that that was scary or damn that that |
| 2333s | could have gone bad so I just know I |
| 2336s | after the fact when I have the |
| 2337s | adrenaline dump is when I really think |
| 2338s | about how things could have gone bad but |
| 2341s | I think once we go once we say go um you |
| 2344s | start shaking and then when you step off |
| 2346s | that Bearcat it's you're at the shaking |
| 2348s | stops because now you're in you're in |
| 2349s | the mode no you're you're in you got |
| 2352s | your job to do and you're do your |
| 2353s | damnest to do it the best you can yeah I |
| 2356s | I think Chris hit the nail pretty much |
| 2358s | on on the head with that I I think if |
| 2360s | you broke it down into two skills the |
| 2361s | first one would be being task oriented |
| 2363s | or task focused as you're doing things |
| 2366s | um and then the other thing would be |
| 2367s | kind of compartmentalizing as you go |
| 2369s | what what's going on so yeah like he |
| 2371s | said you know in in the back of the |
| 2373s | armor rting up to the thing it's usually |
| 2375s | joking and messing with your buddies |
| 2376s | until you get slightly out you know a |
| 2378s | minute or two out then it's game time |
| 2381s | gets gets nervous about what's going on |
| 2383s | once you're on scene you're doing your |
| 2385s | thing you're not really thinking about |
| 2386s | the you know you're aware that it's |
| 2388s | dangerous for sure but you're not really |
| 2390s | thinking about it you're focusing on |
| 2391s | what the next problem is and how you're |
| 2393s | going to work through it and handle it |
| 2394s | and move on um and then after the fact |
| 2396s | you kind of look back wow that was |
| 2398s | really dangerous I I was in |
| 2403s | danger yeah I would classify it as |
| 2405s | almost like a a numb feeling once you're |
| 2407s | actually doing the thing like if you're |
| 2409s | like okay I know for sure that someone |
| 2411s | inside of this house is a gun and |
| 2412s | they're wanting to kill us and you're |
| 2415s | just like all right well I mean got to |
| 2417s | solve the problem I have to solve the |
| 2419s | problem and that's where your mind goes |
| 2421s | too it's just it's not so much oh crap I |
| 2424s | could get shot it's hey I need to |
| 2425s | address the problem and everything else |
| 2428s | goes by the wayside yeah I think Chris |
| 2430s | hit it pretty much right |
| 2432s | on I and and and quite frankly with that |
| 2435s | Ready or Not element you know I really |
| 2437s | kind of thought it was kind of a crappy |
| 2438s | element to have the psychologist in the |
| 2440s | back but the more I thought about it and |
| 2442s | with all the mental health awareness |
| 2444s | that is currently in law enforcement um |
| 2446s | you know we really didn't we and we |
| 2447s | still kind of don't we don't have an |
| 2448s | outlet where you go back and you guys we |
| 2450s | talk about like oh my gosh that was |
| 2453s | dangerous I think each and every |
| 2454s | operator has their own way of dealing |
| 2456s | with it but then you know some of us |
| 2458s | don't deal with it well and uh you know |
| 2460s | then you stack those up over you know |
| 2461s | mission after mission months after |
| 2463s | months and years after years and you |
| 2465s | know that's why you have some people who |
| 2466s | put a you know unfortunately a bullet in |
| 2467s | their head just because uh they you know |
| 2469s | all that trauma over the years has |
| 2471s | definitely taken its toll so um it that |
| 2474s | is kind of a nice element to see because |
| 2475s | it's letting our community see hey wait |
| 2477s | a minute why why is this component back |
| 2479s | here and now it's kind of bringing some |
| 2481s | mental health awareness that you know uh |
| 2483s | police officers do need it so I I |
| 2485s | definitely do appreciate that element in |
| 2486s | the game now |
| 2488s | I cannot overstate how how |
| 2494s | um I don't know how I would even word it |
| 2496s | how |
| 2498s | uh |
| 2500s | how I I'll I'll have to come back to |
| 2502s | that statement because my brain is not |
| 2504s | working currently um but yeah it very |
| 2507s | much is something that need that is |
| 2510s | unfortunately very under um |
| 2513s | underserviced in a lot of things with |
| 2515s | how we talk about people that go through |
| 2517s | those sort of situations where um yeah |
| 2520s | these these people are heroes what |
| 2521s | they're doing is great they are |
| 2522s | incredibly skilled but everything they |
| 2525s | do takes a toll on them |
| 2529s | and unfortunately yeah a lot of people |
| 2531s | don't really get the help they need and |
| 2533s | that really sucks in the uh most uh |
| 2536s | broad way I I can say |
| 2538s | it I can actually just |
| 2541s | from not to bring room but I've had uh |
| 2545s | now three commit suicide um on top of it |
| 2548s | you know being diagnosed with PTSD as |
| 2550s | well as sleeping from sleep paralysis um |
| 2553s | it's 27 years as well you know 27 years |
| 2555s | as a police officer but then you add the |
| 2557s | 10 years idea as a paramedic um it's |
| 2559s | definitely taken its toll on my mind and |
| 2561s | my dreams aren't nice and warm and fuzzy |
| 2563s | dreams my dreams are definitely the |
| 2564s | dreams of |
| 2566s | nightmares but you're you're you're |
| 2568s | still kicking and you're still talking |
| 2570s | to us about it with a smile so that that |
| 2571s | means doing something |
| 2574s | right I always have a smile |
| 2579s | um alrighty I guess uh we can definitely |
| 2583s | use this question from Razer to bring |
| 2586s | bring bring the room up a little bit |
| 2588s | um they they do note that a lot of the |
| 2591s | questions that they've seen were you |
| 2593s | know big topics heavy topics um their |
| 2597s | question is what is the funniest |
| 2599s | experience you've had as an officer |
| 2601s | either as a traffic stop interacting |
| 2602s | with the public or even interacting with |
| 2604s | a suspect |
| 2609s | um I was actually just talking to my |
| 2610s | daughter about this because I just saw a |
| 2612s | Tik Tok on it I was a motor officer and |
| 2615s | when I was when I was walking up to the |
| 2616s | girl's car I could see that she was |
| 2617s | pring her boobs you know kind of putting |
| 2619s | the the her her shirt a little lower so |
| 2621s | I |
| 2622s | can and uh after I was walking back from |
| 2625s | my B my bike back to her car with a |
| 2627s | ticket she says H one of my friends told |
| 2629s | me that you know police officers don't |
| 2631s | give pretty girl tickets and I said |
| 2632s | you're right sign you know sign here |
| 2635s | press hard three copies and the way she |
| 2637s | just looked that me I just was like I |
| 2639s | almost every police officer Waits For a |
| 2641s | Moment like that where you can actually |
| 2642s | say something funny um but that was |
| 2644s | probably now I got other funnier stories |
| 2646s | but they're going to be a little bit uh |
| 2648s | definitely non G-rated and I know |
| 2650s | whiskey we've shared a couple of those |
| 2652s | stories like how we found dead B how |
| 2654s | people have died and you're just like oh |
| 2656s | my God I never want to go out this way |
| 2658s | so |
| 2659s | uh I'll leave mine to that |
| 2663s | one yeah I too had sorry go ahead no go |
| 2666s | ahead no uh one of the situations where |
| 2669s | where she was probably thinking damn I |
| 2670s | wish he would have shot me instead gave |
| 2671s | me a ticket that was |
| 2677s | awful so yeah I I too had to kind of |
| 2679s | filter through a whole bunch of um |
| 2682s | unsafe the public consumption stories um |
| 2686s | the the one I can think of on a traffic |
| 2687s | stop and it's probably not the funniest |
| 2689s | thing that ever happened to it was |
| 2690s | pretty pretty far out there so I I was |
| 2693s | working Patrol in a part of the city |
| 2695s | that was a college town a college area |
| 2697s | area so a lot of nightlife a lot of bars |
| 2699s | a lot of everything um and then it was |
| 2701s | kind of adjacent to another part of the |
| 2703s | city that was also like a big nightlife |
| 2705s | area and it was separated by a river |
| 2706s | that a bridge crossed over and then it |
| 2708s | came over and there were like four lanes |
| 2710s | of traffic one way and there was a bus |
| 2711s | lane that only buses traveled in that |
| 2713s | went the opposite way towards the the |
| 2715s | other college part of the Town um so you |
| 2718s | know on a Saturday night it was a |
| 2719s | guarantee if you saw a car in that lane |
| 2721s | that it was going to be a DUI arrest so |
| 2723s | I was sitting there one night and it's |
| 2724s | probably 2:30 on a Saturday morning and |
| 2726s | I see this |
| 2728s | SUV running up the bus lane and it is |
| 2731s | driving just Herky jerky in and over |
| 2733s | into the oncoming Lanes back into the |
| 2735s | cars I'm all right I I'm gonna have to |
| 2737s | deal with this I guess not that I really |
| 2739s | wanted a DUI at this point in my evening |
| 2741s | or my career for that matter but here we |
| 2743s | are so I go ahead and do a traffic stop |
| 2745s | on it and I'm I'm walking up to the car |
| 2747s | and I'm getting up past the back uh |
| 2749s | driver side window to do my Approach and |
| 2752s | out of nowhere because windows were |
| 2753s | fairly Darkly |
| 2755s | tinted bud this white Flash and Feathers |
| 2760s | smash off of the side window so I jump |
| 2764s | back as I do that driver's side door |
| 2767s | opens two girls very intoxicated girls |
| 2770s | pour out of the driver's side of the car |
| 2772s | a third one climbs out a couple seconds |
| 2774s | later and there is a very angry goose in |
| 2776s | the back of the car with them so |
| 2778s | apparently they were drinking over in |
| 2779s | the other part of the town where this |
| 2781s | was and they found this Goose that they |
| 2783s | had somehow coaxed into their car with |
| 2784s | them that they were going to take back |
| 2786s | to to the their dorm I guess with them |
| 2790s | um that was was not happy that this was |
| 2792s | the situation it was involved in it was |
| 2796s | was a flapping angry mess uh so we ended |
| 2799s | up dying the driver of the goose I do |
| 2801s | not remember you know custody wise where |
| 2804s | the goose went |
| 2806s | but damn damn losing track of a evidence |
| 2810s | like that yeah what the destruction of |
| 2813s | evidence unbelievable it's a good legal |
| 2815s | legal argument you know I can't prove |
| 2818s | that it was intoxication that was |
| 2819s | causing that as opposed to a |
| 2822s | giant |
| 2825s | right I think the one traffic stop that |
| 2829s | was funniest to me it wasn't even my |
| 2830s | traffic stop I was assisting uh my Coral |
| 2834s | uh he had got a traffic stop it was |
| 2837s | definitely a DWI and so he's doing all |
| 2840s | the sfsts with the driver and I'm |
| 2842s | watching the passengers make sure he's |
| 2843s | not doing anything anyway so he's like |
| 2845s | all right hey come on back back here |
| 2847s | we're going to do the cuff thing I was |
| 2850s | like all right sick so I go back there |
| 2852s | help him with the handcuffing do a quick |
| 2854s | search and then I'm going back to talk |
| 2857s | with the passenger because I was like |
| 2858s | Hey listen the passenger needs to know |
| 2860s | you know we're about to probably tow the |
| 2861s | car he needs to be a little aware of |
| 2863s | that so I'm walking back I hear hey hey |
| 2867s | man like what he's like hey man don't |
| 2869s | come up I was like uh oh like what what |
| 2871s | does that mean don't come up it's like |
| 2873s | don't come up man don't come up I was |
| 2874s | like okay so I start thinking hey this |
| 2877s | dude might be trying to draw a weapon or |
| 2879s | do something stupid so I'm kind of |
| 2881s | pieing the the passenger side like bro |
| 2883s | man I'm I'm pissing in the bottle please |
| 2885s | don't come up oh my gosh |
| 2888s | bro like bro just say that unbelievable |
| 2892s | all right do your thing man he's like |
| 2894s | all right all |
| 2895s | right listen man had to go yeah I |
| 2900s | know at least he had the wherewithal to |
| 2904s | do it in the car and not in the patrol |
| 2906s | vehicle oh yeah exactly exactly I I |
| 2910s | appreciated the heads |
| 2914s | up uh |
| 2916s | I do not know how you guys stay |
| 2920s | safe especially with with some of the |
| 2922s | people like stories from family stories |
| 2925s | from the Internet or stories I I I've |
| 2927s | even uh listened to from you know Chris |
| 2929s | and six's videos it's like Jesus |
| 2934s | Christ yeah drunk people can be the |
| 2936s | worst still |
| 2938s | here drunk people can be the worst but |
| 2941s | they can also be the most funny because |
| 2942s | you can really you know riff back and |
| 2944s | forth between them because they're not g |
| 2946s | to care with whatever you |
| 2949s | say you know what it also funny whiskey |
| 2951s | when you're your actual story just |
| 2953s | brought up I remember I uh a friend of |
| 2956s | mine asked me to roll up on a a van that |
| 2958s | was parked in front of his buddy's dnut |
| 2960s | shop donut shop of all things right and |
| 2962s | I knock on the window and and these man |
| 2964s | this husband and wife pour out of it and |
| 2965s | they're wearing their costum CES and I'm |
| 2967s | like what are you guys doing and they're |
| 2970s | like sir uh we got kids at home and uh |
| 2974s | this is our thing and I'm like you know |
| 2975s | what enough said but they were role |
| 2978s | playing and then they were car but that |
| 2979s | was the only privacy they say they had |
| 2981s | and I'm like I'm out of here guys you do |
| 2982s | what you got to do get a hotel room what |
| 2985s | are you |
| 2986s | doing right oh man it was pretty |
| 2990s | funny oh |
| 2992s | boy um I guess while we're on this high |
| 2994s | this would be be a good question to ask |
| 2997s | um question from mace that popped up in |
| 2999s | the chat since we only kind of really |
| 3000s | got some a uh some heavier questions |
| 3003s | left on our document and I don't want to |
| 3005s | ruin the mood with that um what is your |
| 3008s | favorite uh question Yeah question for |
| 3010s | mace what is your favorite weapon |
| 3012s | feature or map in Ready or |
| 3016s | Not |
| 3018s | um you know |
| 3021s | I'm |
| 3022s | out with uh with the Valley of the Dolls |
| 3025s | it's just something fun that we do |
| 3026s | especially like we want to take the |
| 3028s | cobwebs off of you know when we haven't |
| 3029s | played for a while so we'll do G the |
| 3031s | dolls because we have no uh Roes when we |
| 3033s | do it at least on my channel um but uh I |
| 3038s | think one of the like the when it comes |
| 3039s | to the uh the challenging ones is like |
| 3041s | the later ones um I forget the one where |
| 3043s | you go into the caves I forget the name |
| 3044s | of it right now but that's actually kind |
| 3046s | of one of my my favorite ones because |
| 3047s | you it's hard to watch our Corners when |
| 3049s | you're in a cave bastard so yep yeah so |
| 3053s | I like I like that one me |
| 3055s | personally all right |
| 3058s | rust Bel that's it Rust Belt yeah Rust |
| 3060s | Belt is good yeah um well like I said as |
| 3063s | far as weapon goes I I already spoiled |
| 3065s | it but Bravo Company mark1 is my Duty |
| 3068s | gun in real life except I I don't do |
| 3071s | keymod I I do mlock K it's dumb uh here |
| 3075s | here but um so yeah it's in game for a |
| 3079s | reason um so I'll say that's my favorite |
| 3082s | uh ingame gun uh map-wise I mean I I |
| 3085s | kind of like the the the the urgency of |
| 3088s | elephant I think it's a it's a cool map |
| 3092s | um |
| 3095s | but yeah I mean Valley of the Dolls are |
| 3097s | elephant for very opposing reasons I |
| 3099s | think are pretty cool |
| 3102s | okay uh at this point I have settled on |
| 3105s | the Arn 180 just because it absolutely |
| 3108s | slaps anybody that's in the way like |
| 3110s | it's it's a twoot every single time so |
| 3113s | I've definitely taken up on the air in |
| 3115s | 180 um my favorite |
| 3119s | map I ask |
| 3121s | question what do you think about the one |
| 3123s | where you go it's kind of the uh the map |
| 3127s | where it's it's the two or three people |
| 3128s | in the cabin you know what I did forget |
| 3130s | about that one I think that one's kind |
| 3131s | of awesome when suvan SL so much yeah I |
| 3135s | love it because it's so difficult and I |
| 3137s | I like cheesing it with the uh breaching |
| 3139s | Shotgun by just standing like 50 feet |
| 3142s | away and letting it explode um no that |
| 3145s | one's fun that one's a lot I think my |
| 3147s | favorite one now is lawmaker for sure |
| 3149s | because it's a lot like all the houses |
| 3151s | that I got used to clearing in Patrol |
| 3154s | yeah like it got |
| 3155s | so it just feels like home feels like |
| 3159s | where I'm supposed to be clearing out it |
| 3161s | it's so cool I love how it's all built |
| 3164s | out I love the the graphics in it I yeah |
| 3167s | yeah lawmaker for sure yeah I guess it's |
| 3170s | a good thing we nerfed your breaching |
| 3171s | shotgun into the ground so you can't do |
| 3173s | that I know 3.5 MERS you but holes dude |
| 3178s | I was like this is not realistic but I'm |
| 3179s | gonna use |
| 3181s | it I I feel like I should be doing I |
| 3183s | feel like I should be doing this |
| 3184s | interview oh |
| 3187s | huge huge with the aviators let's go |
| 3190s | yeah especially the blue tinted ones |
| 3193s | just no God God bless that's amazing um |
| 3197s | I guess this is actually one where where |
| 3199s | I can chime in a little bit um anybody |
| 3201s | that's been on Discord more than well |
| 3202s | enough knows uh sa58 and revolver as my |
| 3207s | every day maximum power with the biggest |
| 3211s | bullets I can bring it's a massive |
| 3213s | explosion every single time good for you |
| 3216s | see you you don't have to worry about |
| 3217s | Ammo consumption because one round |
| 3219s | Center of mass drops anything that done |
| 3223s | yeah because there's a cave inside their |
| 3224s | chest now |
| 3227s | yeah I mean what is it it's it's it's a |
| 3231s | uh your your famous quote there right 60 |
| 3233s | just drop them with as minimal effort as |
| 3235s | possible exactly do it gota do it |
| 3241s | yeah yeah because you know those damn DA |
| 3243s | investigators they start counting |
| 3245s | [Laughter] |
| 3248s | rounds I I mean that is a stalling point |
| 3250s | for a shotgun somebody was asking |
| 3251s | earlier about do shotguns have value or |
| 3254s | still in use or whatever that that is a |
| 3255s | good argument to say you know I I fired |
| 3257s | one time it it had nine pellets that |
| 3260s | went in but it was one pull of the |
| 3262s | trigger took off his right arm good for |
| 3264s | him nine pellets or like a |
| 3267s | 230 grain solid slug of lead you know |
| 3270s | slug slug slug |
| 3274s | them um all right I think this one might |
| 3277s | might be some funny uh for for some |
| 3279s | funny conversation um questions from |
| 3283s | Schnitz would you want to L work for the |
| 3285s | Lo swos Police Department oh |
| 3289s | God I I already |
| 3292s | did oh yeah basically yeah I basically |
| 3296s | did so yeah I'm I'm basically there so I |
| 3300s | guess the answer would be yes I do it |
| 3301s | all over |
| 3303s | again it's uh it doesn't seem like it's |
| 3306s | in a great state in game uh you know |
| 3309s | maybe uh maybe uh yeah um you might you |
| 3315s | know if you were doing it because you |
| 3317s | want the experience and uh you want some |
| 3319s | stories to tell I I think it would be |
| 3321s | hard to beat Lo suenos but uh if you're |
| 3324s | looking for a solid vest Pion there you |
| 3327s | know if you want that pension to be |
| 3329s | solvent when you retire I I I don't |
| 3331s | think L swos is |
| 3333s | it Y no I'll take my 10 square miles of |
| 3337s | patrolling that's okay I'm I'm good |
| 3339s | thank you |
| 3341s | though what's wrong you guys don't want |
| 3343s | to work on work in a uh constantly under |
| 3346s | City from every single night yeah every |
| 3349s | single night there's a terrorist attack |
| 3351s | yeah no I'm okay |
| 3353s | actually needs yeah I I think that |
| 3356s | station is going to lead to having some |
| 3357s | bad allergies I I I really think SES are |
| 3360s | going to have problems in there no oh |
| 3363s | yeah what funny is so my daughter works |
| 3366s | where I used to work and what's funny is |
| 3368s | just the other day um she had left for |
| 3369s | work and then a buddy of mine called me |
| 3372s | and he was listening to the radio and |
| 3373s | it's kind of it's funny is we're just |
| 3375s | having a small chat and then he just |
| 3376s | says oh man he goes your daughter just |
| 3377s | found a gun on a 187 suspect and I'm |
| 3380s | just like you know those are just |
| 3381s | conversations I don't think some parents |
| 3383s | hear about their kids right and I'm just |
| 3384s | like it's 7 o'clock in the morning what |
| 3386s | the you |
| 3389s | know I know some some people might dude |
| 3392s | I don't know |
| 3394s | yeah cop says but you get GP nvgs and |
| 3398s | you also get mold in your lungs I'm |
| 3402s | okay I'm okay we're we're we're not g to |
| 3404s | talk about the stuff that that that came |
| 3406s | out of the um came out of the offices |
| 3408s | they're um unburying in in the back of |
| 3411s | the headquarters yeah no I'm okay I |
| 3414s | don't need the lost to like come out out |
| 3416s | of my head I don't need the flowers |
| 3418s | coming out there no thank you I'm |
| 3420s | good fine minor minor |
| 3423s | psychedelics |
| 3425s | um |
| 3427s | alrighty I guess that also you know the |
| 3430s | the the quips do lead directly into this |
| 3431s | question from Zulu um what's the |
| 3434s | craziest thing that you've experienced |
| 3437s | as an officer either something that is |
| 3440s | just a explosion of either you know of |
| 3445s | violence or or just a impossible odds or |
| 3449s | just something so weird that you still |
| 3452s | can't quite process |
| 3455s | it um for me and actually you can |
| 3458s | actually um take a look at it on YouTube |
| 3460s | because I was interviewed by Gangland it |
| 3462s | was when the Mexican Mafia wiped out a |
| 3464s | family of five they executed their |
| 3466s | primary target but they also took out an |
| 3469s | innocent family member that was at the |
| 3471s | front door and then they killed a mom |
| 3472s | and her two children one child being |
| 3475s | eight years old and the other one being |
| 3476s | six months and they killed both of those |
| 3477s | children execution style um something I |
| 3480s | never forgotten and if anybody wants to |
| 3482s | take a look at that episode it's from |
| 3483s | Gangland you just have to put in Mexican |
| 3485s | Mafia on YouTube and I think my |
| 3487s | interviews in the first like seven |
| 3488s | minutes and then it came out in a book |
| 3491s | called The blackand where I was |
| 3492s | interviewed regarding that particular |
| 3494s | murder but that would probably be the |
| 3496s | when people ask me what is the the the |
| 3498s | thing that is the the the worst thing |
| 3501s | whatever I experienc in my career that |
| 3503s | that is definitely it there will be |
| 3504s | nothing that will ever come to that was |
| 3507s | that was the that was the time where I |
| 3508s | said this is what real evil looks like |
| 3510s | and that was uh that that that that's it |
| 3512s | for Me |
| 3514s | Jesus Chris went dark there um |
| 3518s | Sor I I'll lighten it up slightly |
| 3521s | because the only person that died in |
| 3522s | this was the bad guy um I I I went to a |
| 3526s | shooting um it was on a barricade it |
| 3528s | wasn't my team initially it was another |
| 3530s | team that was involved actually it was |
| 3532s | was originally not even a a SWAT call |
| 3534s | out it was another law enforcement is |
| 3536s | but they end up taking fire from the guy |
| 3538s | they were trying to to get out of the |
| 3540s | house on this barricade and um bunch of |
| 3543s | different agency showed up uh and it |
| 3545s | went on for six hours and over the |
| 3547s | course of six hours there was over 5,000 |
| 3550s | rounds fired uh between gosh bad guy in |
| 3553s | the assorted agencies that had showed up |
| 3556s | um it was truly the craziest thing I |
| 3557s | have ever seen in my life it would he he |
| 3560s | would lean out a window and open fire |
| 3562s | with uh couple pistols or a rifle and |
| 3564s | then there would just be a volley back |
| 3566s | at the house that would go on for two or |
| 3568s | three minutes and this went on over and |
| 3570s | over again over the course of hours god |
| 3573s | um I I have never seen anything like |
| 3576s | that before or after truly |
| 3580s | insane he was completely naked |
| 3582s | incidentally whenever we eventually went |
| 3583s | in onr as you should be as you should be |
| 3586s | yeah of course go out go out like that |
| 3589s | go out as you came in yeah as a quick |
| 3591s | ancillary question because now now |
| 3593s | you've got me curious before uh for six |
| 3595s | sh shares his is how much ammunition |
| 3598s | does an officer generally bring with him |
| 3602s | because that is that is a lot so you |
| 3606s | know for for SWAT our load out typically |
| 3609s | is we run four four rifle magazines |
| 3611s | three handgun magazines um that's pretty |
| 3613s | standard um obviously we we keep more in |
| 3616s | the in the armor we keep more on support |
| 3618s | vehicles and everything but uh this was |
| 3621s | literally they were calling for people |
| 3622s | to bring ammo from the academy like ah |
| 3629s | okay yeah Patrol Wise It's like you |
| 3632s | can't ask no whiskey you don't get to |
| 3633s | answer that question because we all |
| 3635s | [ __ ] know that you have a bag of ammo |
| 3638s | that you carry like a thousand rounds |
| 3639s | just in your your uh suitcase next to |
| 3642s | you on on the passenger and we won't |
| 3644s | talk about what in your War bag in the |
| 3648s | trunk it's what Patrol do baby what |
| 3651s | Patrol do I know wh is one of the guys |
| 3654s | that have he could Supply ammo every guy |
| 3657s | on the team listen someone else needs a |
| 3659s | MAG they got it no problem no problem no |
| 3662s | we Patrol Wise It's like it most of the |
| 3665s | time it's one in the gun and then you |
| 3667s | got two sitting on your belt generally |
| 3670s | that's what the Department issues you |
| 3671s | now I got a three because like you know |
| 3675s | hey like as Chris said like having a |
| 3676s | little more why not but our Patrol rifle |
| 3679s | we would have three mags in our plate |
| 3681s | carrier which he kept in the back and |
| 3683s | then one in the gun so always ready to |
| 3685s | go |
| 3687s | I just want to say I've always |
| 3688s | appreciated officers like whiskey and |
| 3690s | the reason why is if the zombie |
| 3692s | apocalypse ever happens that's the first |
| 3694s | dude I'm looking for oh we gotta go man |
| 3697s | we gotta |
| 3699s | go all right and I guess we we can kind |
| 3701s | of pivot back to the original question |
| 3703s | because we got to smidge off topic |
| 3704s | because I was really curious um so yeah |
| 3707s | what's what's the craziest thing that |
| 3708s | you've experienced in the uh line of |
| 3710s | duty |
| 3711s | there uh there's one that I I could tell |
| 3715s | but if I told it it would absolutely |
| 3716s | docks where I was so I I can't tell that |
| 3719s | one but um the other one I could think |
| 3722s | of I was so we had these Vehicles near |
| 3725s | the decoy Vehicles nobody's in them we |
| 3727s | just put them out so that people slow |
| 3729s | down whenever they see them um so we're |
| 3731s | me and another officer we're moving |
| 3733s | decoys and uh we see this beautiful |
| 3736s | Bugatti beautiful Bugatti and so hey you |
| 3739s | know let's let's run the plate like it's |
| 3741s | got a temporary tag on it it looks brand |
| 3744s | new but the temporary tag is out of date |
| 3745s | like what's going on here so we run it |
| 3748s | comes back to a stolen vehicle so we're |
| 3750s | like oh snap it starts moving it goes |
| 3753s | into this uh Elementary School line and |
| 3757s | we're like oh crap dude this is gonna |
| 3758s | suck and I was like hey man like maybe |
| 3760s | we don't pull it over here he's like |
| 3761s | yeah we'll try to get on the way out |
| 3763s | anyway so we he gets into the line all |
| 3765s | the way up to where the the kids are |
| 3768s | standing and it looks like he's about to |
| 3770s | take off so we start lights and sirens |
| 3772s | in the middle of the parking lot it was |
| 3774s | such a bad place to do it but it's the |
| 3776s | only way we could get |
| 3778s | him so we get up there pull him over do |
| 3781s | the investigation we're starting working |
| 3783s | through everything his kids are coming |
| 3785s | out we're like oh crap now the kids are |
| 3786s | going to see that |
| 3788s | sucks I I kid you not three cars rolled |
| 3791s | up on us with his entire family cousins |
| 3797s | Aunts Uncles Brothers sister I was like |
| 3800s | who what is going on here like why are |
| 3802s | you why are you why are you taking him |
| 3804s | to jail why are you taking him jail like |
| 3805s | listen I I'm just here as a support |
| 3808s | office I don't know like I stop yelling |
| 3810s | at me so we had to call the rest of the |
| 3813s | entire department out there because |
| 3814s | there was at that time like 12 to 16 |
| 3817s | people out there of his family just |
| 3821s | berading us for taking him to jail for |
| 3822s | stealing the vehicle so that that was |
| 3826s | probably the the craziest uh that won't |
| 3829s | doxs me I think the wildest part is you |
| 3833s | you ran it like on a whim it's like oh |
| 3836s | this is something we need to deal with |
| 3837s | [ __ ] yes wa I mean it's a freaking a I |
| 3841s | mean it was stolen out of I think Ohio |
| 3842s | so we were like how the freak did it get |
| 3845s | here it was Zero damage so there you go |
| 3848s | I know I know now we just we seize it |
| 3850s | have a little Bugatti for |
| 3853s | the just just just just get some of |
| 3855s | those um uh some some of the uh uh some |
| 3860s | of the um officers from uh Dubai with |
| 3863s | their super cars over oh dude yeah yeah |
| 3866s | Ferrari little Ferrari |
| 3868s | action of course that good |
| 3872s | [ __ ] all righty um I guess uh as we've |
| 3876s | been rolling on you guys have have uh |
| 3879s | picked up on some some of the talk in |
| 3880s | the chat are there any uh questions in |
| 3883s | particular that we haven't addressed yet |
| 3884s | that you guys would like to uh pick up |
| 3886s | on or answer and I guess now would be a |
| 3888s | great time to let the audience know hey |
| 3890s | um if there's something that we didn't |
| 3892s | ask that you're curious about now's your |
| 3894s | chance |
| 3896s | oh uh jerfer uh this this one I got me |
| 3901s | because I saw this on I forget the show |
| 3903s | but it it ticked me off are hand signals |
| 3905s | common practice in state level SWAT or |
| 3907s | is that more of a practice for federal |
| 3909s | type SWAT teams most of the time it's |
| 3912s | like at least from Patrol side I can |
| 3914s | tell you it's all verbal it's all verbal |
| 3917s | common language common speak we don't do |
| 3919s | the hand signs because that leads to so |
| 3922s | much miscommunication it's ridiculous we |
| 3925s | I we watched the team from another |
| 3927s | department try to use hand signals in |
| 3930s | one of our alert classes could not |
| 3932s | function when you're telling your your |
| 3934s | your partner next to you hey left 45 |
| 3937s | clear left 90 has door at the end of the |
| 3939s | hallway right 90 has nothing right 45 |
| 3943s | leads to a dead space that makes sense |
| 3945s | that's verbal communication and you |
| 3948s | can't do that exactly you can't do that |
| 3950s | with hand signals I I hate them zero out |
| 3952s | of 10 would not |
| 3954s | do me either they work worthless yeah I |
| 3958s | I I would say the only time we ever do |
| 3960s | hand signals for anything practically |
| 3962s | would be like exterior movement like if |
| 3965s | we were doing a search of a field or |
| 3967s | something where we were doing like IMT |
| 3969s | stuff and even then if you don't do it |
| 3971s | frequently nobody |
| 3973s | remembers like the the only thing I |
| 3975s | could think of that's hand signal wise |
| 3978s | that's generally used is the flashbang |
| 3980s | where you take the flashbang put it in |
| 3982s | front of your partner's hand to let them |
| 3983s | know hey this is going in but that's |
| 3985s | about |
| 3988s | yeah all righty |
| 3992s | um oh my God I I think that H that was |
| 3997s | they're pouring in you open the |
| 4000s | flood um actually yeah I think I'm kind |
| 4004s | of curious about the question um the |
| 4006s | question from Crow uh do you have any |
| 4008s | experience working with Sheriff |
| 4009s | departments I |
| 4011s | don't I don't um myself know like the |
| 4015s | scope difference between like Sheriff's |
| 4017s | Troopers like Patrol officers all that |
| 4021s | fun stuff |
| 4022s | so sheriff is county level police is |
| 4025s | generally City level state is Troopers |
| 4028s | that's generally the way it's |
| 4031s | organized yeah and we like where I work |
| 4034s | um Ali County um surrounds us so we work |
| 4037s | closely with them they work closely with |
| 4039s | us |
| 4041s | but you know what people like see on TV |
| 4043s | is like the the counties at odds with |
| 4045s | the city cities at Al County um there |
| 4047s | ain't [ __ ] like that going on as well as |
| 4050s | the FBI the ATF all those three initial |
| 4052s | letters those guys are not badasses like |
| 4054s | they're displayed on TV um as quite |
| 4056s | frankly we've served many FBI search |
| 4058s | warrants I've I had DEA and served their |
| 4060s | search warrants um they're just another |
| 4062s | team um and but they don't they're not |
| 4064s | just allowed to come into your |
| 4065s | jurisdiction and say we got it it's like |
| 4067s | that [ __ ] doesn't doesn't happen so um |
| 4070s | that's all TV stuff so but uh yeah |
| 4073s | there's there's also tfos which are |
| 4075s | pretty cool the Force officers where |
| 4077s | essentially like like the FBI they can |
| 4079s | basically deputize one of the police |
| 4081s | officers within your department to |
| 4083s | handle Federal level crimes so they can |
| 4085s | actually prosecute those okay so |
| 4089s | they an officer to it so so the FBI has |
| 4093s | to yeah exactly the FBI specifically has |
| 4096s | one officer and part of that though is |
| 4098s | you do stuff for them right so the the |
| 4100s | FBI will hand you case load stuff too so |
| 4102s | you're working kind of double duty there |
| 4105s | that's kind of cool yeah it is cool I |
| 4107s | wanted to TFO so bad that's such a cool |
| 4111s | one yeah where I work we had several |
| 4114s | guys that were tfos to the DEA ATF not |
| 4117s | the not the ATF the FBI and the |
| 4120s | DEA how about you Dan yeah likewise um |
| 4123s | so yeah I I've also been a part of we we |
| 4127s | work pretty routinely with the feds in |
| 4128s | the area doing Warren Forum as part of |
| 4130s | you know larger operation roundups and |
| 4132s | whatnot and um as far as Sheriff's go |
| 4136s | where I work this the state I work in is |
| 4138s | a little bit odd so sheriffs here don't |
| 4141s | do Patrol stuff so ordinarily like Chris |
| 4144s | said um or um 68 also said sheriffs |
| 4148s | typically work the unincorporated areas |
| 4151s | outside of of City Limits throughout the |
| 4153s | county that they handle uh for patrol |
| 4156s | responsibilities um the state I work in |
| 4158s | that's kind of not the case Sheriff's |
| 4159s | are basically Wards of the Court they do |
| 4162s | process surveying evictions paper |
| 4166s | um Court paper stuff like that but they |
| 4168s | don't actually Patrol um or anything |
| 4170s | like that most areas um that's |
| 4173s | contracted out to different agencies or |
| 4175s | State Police and areas that don't have |
| 4177s | some kind of standing agreement with a |
| 4179s | larger City to cover |
| 4181s | them |
| 4182s | yeah okay that's actually really cool |
| 4186s | um I guess another uh this this this |
| 4191s | nice short one um any experience with |
| 4193s | the US Marshall service aside from uh |
| 4195s | Sheriff |
| 4197s | cooperation oh yeah same thing they |
| 4199s | Marshalls will be their fugitive it's |
| 4201s | usually their fugitive teams their |
| 4203s | fugitive teams will be looking for |
| 4204s | somebody and what they'll do is they'll |
| 4206s | put an agent or two in the area and then |
| 4208s | they'll put your team on standby just |
| 4210s | because it sometimes takes a while for |
| 4212s | them to uh mobilize their teams um it's |
| 4216s | yeah and you know we've done stuff with |
| 4217s | the Postal Inspector that type of stuff |
| 4219s | so uh everyone generally in my opinion |
| 4222s | works really well with the feds I think |
| 4224s | TV just loves to show show a different |
| 4226s | narrative um like a bu of conflict yeah |
| 4230s | yeah |
| 4233s | there oh oh God you cut out say it again |
| 4238s | we lost you at there is after |
| 4242s | cooperation who me yes |
| 4245s | you oh sorry um no I'm just saying that |
| 4248s | I don't think there's the conflict that |
| 4249s | people think that there is um we |
| 4251s | generally work really well with each |
| 4252s | other um but we |
| 4256s | like I said most police agencies |
| 4257s | especially like in Ali County you know |
| 4259s | we're working with the ATF the postal |
| 4260s | inspectors the DEA everybody as a matter |
| 4263s | of fact when I was on a Narcotics Team |
| 4265s | we had a DEA agent assigned to us and we |
| 4267s | were basically her her crew and we did a |
| 4270s | lot of things with the DEA and we work |
| 4272s | really really well together so um but |
| 4274s | yeah we're constantly working and like I |
| 4275s | said with the marshals the Marshalls we |
| 4277s | just generally will be doing um they |
| 4279s | helping them with their fugitive when |
| 4280s | they find a fugitive they'll send a |
| 4281s | couple agents and then because their |
| 4283s | team is Nationwide they can't have their |
| 4285s | entire team there so they'll use the |
| 4287s | locals to help apprehend their uh their |
| 4292s | suspects all right like Chris said yeah |
| 4295s | most of the time it's a very good |
| 4297s | working relationship and and I say that |
| 4300s | as somebody whose team recently got |
| 4302s | called out to a invent involving a |
| 4304s | federal agency that was very |
| 4306s | high-profile and will probably not bode |
| 4309s | well for relationships between like |
| 4311s | local and state or local and federal |
| 4313s | authorities in the future uh um we got |
| 4317s | came came out after the fact that this |
| 4319s | which I'm being candid about or being a |
| 4321s | little koi about but um overall the |
| 4325s | relationships are very good agencies get |
| 4327s | along we all we all have the same goal |
| 4329s | here uh Marshalls in particular I've |
| 4330s | always found to be the most copik of the |
| 4333s | federal agents when I'm dealing with |
| 4335s | them they just they just tend to be the |
| 4337s | most like regular working cops and I've |
| 4340s | got along with them very well in the |
| 4341s | past those dudes don't mess around they |
| 4343s | are a business they are bus business man |
| 4346s | they they are |
| 4348s | sick kind of cool like got love them |
| 4353s | it's something that that does surprise |
| 4354s | me a little bit um because in in my |
| 4357s | technical background I have had to work |
| 4359s | as a bridge between um um government a |
| 4362s | agencies in a couple small cases and oh |
| 4366s | my God the headbutting is |
| 4369s | absurd I am I'm actually very glad very |
| 4372s | glad to hear that when when it comes |
| 4374s | down to like law enforce stuff the |
| 4376s | cooperation is there yeah I was about to |
| 4379s | say I think bureaucracy within like the |
| 4381s | FBI or something like that they bought |
| 4383s | heads with each other more often than |
| 4385s | they do with like local or state 100% |
| 4387s | like they butt against each other way |
| 4389s | more than they do with |
| 4392s | local yeah alrighty um and I guess we |
| 4398s | can uh ask real quick how are uh how are |
| 4400s | you three looking on time right |
| 4403s | now I'm going to probably be cutting out |
| 4405s | out here in about uh five 10 minutes |
| 4408s | just due to the fact of actually my |
| 4410s | battery is about to |
| 4411s | die but unreal yeah so if I go if I go |
| 4415s | blank all because my battery died but |
| 4417s | yeah so I got about another five I'm |
| 4419s | doing good I'm good for whatever you |
| 4421s | need all right and I guess I guess for |
| 4424s | um for Chris we can uh start wrapping |
| 4428s | things up a smidge smidge um a question |
| 4432s | from Mr unoriginal which is actually a |
| 4434s | very original question he's got from us |
| 4436s | um if you had a specific moment in your |
| 4439s | career to be remembered for what would |
| 4442s | it be |
| 4444s | thanks well once again I will actually |
| 4448s | say this much um this one you can |
| 4450s | actually find it um on YouTube as well |
| 4453s | um this is a I'll try to give the quick |
| 4454s | version of the story but I was um in |
| 4457s | briefing and I was listening to an |
| 4458s | officer give his reason why he had a |
| 4460s | nickname his nickname was blue and |
| 4461s | actually his parents had Nick blue |
| 4466s | um long story short he uh was born with |
| 4469s | a cord wrapped around his neck um in the |
| 4471s | driveway of his home and when he was |
| 4473s | telling the story and it just seemed I |
| 4475s | started to like wait a minute that that |
| 4477s | just sounds so familiar um we found out |
| 4479s | that I was actually the person who |
| 4481s | delivered him um um in his driveway when |
| 4484s | his cord was wrapped around his neck and |
| 4486s | I was able to successfully remove the |
| 4488s | cord and he started breathing again and |
| 4491s | we found out that yeah I was indeed the |
| 4493s | person so uh it NE to know that 20 25 |
| 4498s | years prior uh I had saved his life and |
| 4501s | now we were Partners together at the |
| 4502s | police department and we didn't had no |
| 4504s | idea so uh that that was probably one of |
| 4506s | the most memor memorial memorial stories |
| 4509s | yeah um that I can ever think of is that |
| 4511s | because we the lives we save will |
| 4513s | generally never you know 99.9% will |
| 4516s | never see him again this is like wow so |
| 4519s | you don't you don't know we I guess the |
| 4521s | moral of this story is that you just |
| 4523s | don't know the difference that you'll |
| 4524s | make in people's lives |
| 4526s | that is ABS like insane like genuinely |
| 4530s | for the meaning of the word insane that |
| 4532s | that kind of came around like |
| 4535s | that yeah they actually did a story on |
| 4538s | uh the local news did a story actually |
| 4540s | not local it actually took off pretty |
| 4542s | well I mean internationally they did so |
| 4544s | there's actually a YouTube uh short on |
| 4546s | it from a couple different news channels |
| 4547s | about |
| 4549s | it |
| 4551s | alrighty what do you got for us Mr Dan |
| 4554s | well I I I don't know if it's the one I |
| 4556s | necessarily want to be remembered for |
| 4558s | but it's the one I I'm sure I will be |
| 4559s | remembered for um So I |
| 4562s | responded one of the active killer |
| 4565s | situations I responded to over the years |
| 4568s | um uh I responded to uh at a medical |
| 4572s | facility about 12 years ago now um I was |
| 4577s | one of the first guys on scene uh along |
| 4579s | with some Patrol guys a couple other |
| 4581s | SWAT guys showed up shortly thereafter |
| 4584s | uh ultimately we ended up going going in |
| 4586s | um got in the lobby chaos Carnage all |
| 4589s | sorts of bad stuff going on uh bad guy |
| 4592s | went somewhere else in the building we |
| 4593s | ended up having to search through the |
| 4595s | building partway to to get him engage |
| 4597s | him and and and stop him um ultimately I |
| 4600s | ended up getting to a gunfight with the |
| 4601s | bad guy uh it was a 22 yard gunfight |
| 4603s | where I ended up taking a hostage rescue |
| 4605s | shot on the bad guy while he was using a |
| 4607s | wounded victim as cover um shooting back |
| 4609s | at me uh so I shot him dropped him |
| 4612s | killed him uh ended up clearing the rest |
| 4614s | of the building probably Sav some |
| 4616s | people's lives there but ultimately out |
| 4618s | of all that what I'm proud of isn't the |
| 4620s | the yay me part of that it's that uh the |
| 4622s | guys that showed up the guys from Patrol |
| 4624s | weren't necessarily the people that I |
| 4626s | would have expected to go charging into |
| 4627s | a scene like that um and what I'm proud |
| 4629s | of is they all had the faith in me as a |
| 4631s | patrol supervisor that when we got in |
| 4633s | there and I gave him commands everybody |
| 4635s | leftt at it charged in had no question |
| 4637s | that we were going to go and we're going |
| 4638s | to succeed and that I was able to lead |
| 4640s | them that way um so so that that's |
| 4642s | really the part of it that I'm proud of |
| 4644s | and if I had to say I would like to be |
| 4646s | remembered for any aspect of that it |
| 4647s | would be that part that's awesome for |
| 4649s | you man that's dope cool that is that's |
| 4653s | awesome I either have very good luck or |
| 4656s | very bad luck depending on how you look |
| 4658s | at it that that's actually the the only |
| 4660s | one of those I've been to |
| 4662s | but wow I don't know how to follow up |
| 4665s | that |
| 4667s | but um let's see okay yeah so I there |
| 4672s | was one where we had a a call from from |
| 4675s | someone in uh another city that was |
| 4678s | concerned about one of their friends |
| 4680s | because they were texting with them back |
| 4682s | and forth and then I know he's just like |
| 4683s | hey goodbye that was it and so she was |
| 4686s | like hey I think this is his address so |
| 4689s | that City transferred it over to us |
| 4690s | they're like hey we think this guy's in |
| 4692s | your city do you mind go checking on him |
| 4694s | I was like yeah like of course yeah so |
| 4697s | get on scene and all of the lights are |
| 4700s | on every single light in the house is on |
| 4702s | from the outside every single light it |
| 4704s | was just a strange strange situation um |
| 4708s | start knocking the door nothing go |
| 4711s | around the back to try and see if |
| 4712s | there's anybody there no one I start |
| 4715s | smelling something weird like something |
| 4717s | just it's just off and then I look at |
| 4719s | the grill and the grill is on I was like |
| 4722s | okay either I'm about to die from a bomb |
| 4724s | or something's on the grill so I I pop |
| 4727s | open the grill and there's his phone |
| 4729s | just chilling there getting burned alive |
| 4732s | I was like oh that's that's sick so we |
| 4733s | get get that off |
| 4736s | anyway we ultimately we ended up making |
| 4738s | entry and he uh he had tied a uh a |
| 4741s | plastic bag around his head taking I |
| 4744s | think half an entire bottle of benad |
| 4745s | dril and so we were able to get in there |
| 4749s | and take care of him make sure he got |
| 4751s | into a a better better position than he |
| 4754s | than he was then and so we had that and |
| 4757s | then the literally the next day or the |
| 4759s | next night um we I got a call for an OD |
| 4764s | in progress so went to that was a |
| 4767s | 16-year-old kid o on Hulk which is like |
| 4771s | essentially fentanyl but I got an arcan |
| 4774s | in him and did that and I was like oh |
| 4778s | man that's crazy and then the next night |
| 4780s | we had a um a a shots fired call dude |
| 4784s | was angry that he got the wrong order |
| 4787s | from in and out from his girlfriend so |
| 4788s | he started cranking off rounds in the |
| 4790s | backyard and he was apparently trying to |
| 4792s | take one of them hostage inside the |
| 4794s | house and so we're like okay let's get |
| 4796s | in there so got in there uh took care of |
| 4799s | business didn't ended up not needing to |
| 4802s | fire any rounds thank God and um but |
| 4805s | yeah so we had that I had that in three |
| 4807s | nights in a row and I was like oh my |
| 4808s | gosh and I got two life saving Awards |
| 4812s | apparently they didn't think that the |
| 4813s | hostage rescue counted |
| 4816s | so but yeah man that was that was I |
| 4820s | think the most proud because I I I came |
| 4822s | out of that I don't know feeling a |
| 4824s | little bit more confident about myself |
| 4826s | that I could handle those situations and |
| 4828s | uh take care of people was |
| 4831s | good just the just the the arrangement |
| 4834s | is just like Jesus it's one thing after |
| 4837s | the other man that's the way it can be |
| 4840s | it's it's just it's so Random six out |
| 4843s | here just living the uh the Ron life |
| 4845s | getting the same sort of same call |
| 4847s | frequency as |
| 4853s | lasus um but yeah |
| 4857s | uh I guess like it it was great having |
| 4861s | yall here it was great a uh great that |
| 4864s | you guys accepted my uh my invitation |
| 4867s | and we got to talk about some some cool |
| 4869s | stuff shoot the [ __ ] and just kind of |
| 4871s | you know talk about kind of some little |
| 4873s | bits that don't get talked about often |
| 4875s | which frankly kind of should be talked |
| 4877s | about more rather than the stuff that |
| 4879s | kind of does appear which is just the |
| 4882s | stuff that is awful but |
| 4886s | um any anything you guys would like to |
| 4889s | uh append your little uh append your |
| 4891s | appearances with anything you'd like to |
| 4894s | say I just want to say I just say hey |
| 4896s | thanks for the opportunity to be able to |
| 4898s | talk to the community um we I I love |
| 4900s | playing ready or not I think it's a you |
| 4902s | know it's a good game uh actually it's |
| 4904s | it's a it's a it's a great game and it |
| 4905s | has a lot of potential to add a lot of |
| 4908s | you know to be the Tactical shooter that |
| 4910s | I think a lot of us have been waiting |
| 4911s | for um but I think it's neat to actually |
| 4914s | to to be able to talk to the people like |
| 4916s | that have been here joining us and the |
| 4918s | people that will watch us later on down |
| 4919s | the line um I definitely do appreciate |
| 4921s | it and that's like that's the whole gist |
| 4922s | of my channel was just trying to show |
| 4924s | people that police officers are regular |
| 4926s | people too you know we have likes |
| 4928s | dislikes uh we have problems and we have |
| 4931s | you know families and all that type of |
| 4932s | stuff but just showing him we we like a |
| 4935s | video game just like anybody else and uh |
| 4937s | you know what but once again we're just |
| 4938s | we're just regular peeps |
| 4947s | yeah um you know I I I feel like this is |
| 4951s | the coolest job I have in the world here |
| 4953s | working for void doing this stuff um |
| 4955s | yeah I I'm doing because I like playing |
| 4957s | video games you know I think it's super |
| 4959s | cool that I get to turn around and take |
| 4963s | um take that experience that I have and |
| 4966s | kind of put it into something that gives |
| 4967s | some value back uh and hopefully makes a |
| 4969s | good product here I totally I was I was |
| 4972s | talking before before the chat started I |
| 4975s | totally in in high school would have |
| 4976s | ended up being going into to video game |
| 4979s | development or something cool and making |
| 4980s | games if uh yeah I mean at the time all |
| 4983s | of that was very math heavy and I'm just |
| 4985s | a dumb cop so there was zero chance I |
| 4987s | was getting through all the math end of |
| 4988s | it back then um but uh it's super cool |
| 4991s | that I still have some kind of ability |
| 4993s | to do that um yeah I I I hope everybody |
| 4997s | enjoys playing the game |
| 5000s | uh we |
| 5001s | we you can make a simulation that's not |
| 5004s | necessar very fun or you can make a game |
| 5006s | that's fun that comes and hits some of |
| 5008s | the key elements and captures atmosphere |
| 5011s | and and I hope uh you know I I hope I've |
| 5013s | helped contribute to that you certainly |
| 5016s | have I can I can tell you that for |
| 5020s | sure yeah I want to say thank you to the |
| 5022s | community the only reason I have any |
| 5024s | marginal amount of success whatsoever is |
| 5026s | because of y'all I appreciate the the |
| 5029s | support I appreciate the only cops guys |
| 5031s | Chris the cop y'all definitely helped me |
| 5033s | out it's been fun playing with y'all um |
| 5037s | yeah I I really appreciate |
| 5040s | it I just I just want to be a playable |
| 5044s | character that'd be so cool have a model |
| 5047s | for you that'd be so cool be a character |
| 5050s | if moders in here before |
| 5053s | I there any moders in here's go I I will |
| 5057s | get a I will get Sterling Mark and Steve |
| 5059s | on it Chris Chris the cop DLC soon TM |
| 5062s | huge' be so hug h |
| 5066s | but yeah thank you thank you all for |
| 5068s | yeah thank for watching thank you for |
| 5071s | the support thank you for letting me |
| 5072s | speak here and as always remember our |
| 5074s | sole objectives Stop The Killing stop |
| 5077s | the |
| 5079s | dying and with that I think that's a |
| 5081s | perfect sign off thank you guys very |
| 5083s | much for your time and the rest of you |
| 5085s | guys enjoy the rest of your |
| 5087s | night thanks everyone all right peace |
| 5090s | see you guys see you guys |