[2020] How the hell is this fair to Ludeon Studios?

Originally posted by Elvenstar32

I mean I was actually impressed how I got excited about the new features of the royalty DLC.

Mechanoid bases? Can't remember a good mod for that.

Quests? Yeah I mean there are mods that events/quests but not the ones that are added by the DLC. The hosting quests especially have nothing to do with the hopistality mod and I am particularly hyped about the construction quests.

New way to end the game? We had the one from rimgenetics and kind of save our ship 2 I think, this is another one that is achievable in a completely different way, that's interesting damn.

New tech level that mixes old tech and futuristic tech? Find me one good mod that has this retrofuturistic theme, because I don't remember seeing it. I've seen medieval mods, glittertech mods, dozens of other glittertech/spacer level tech but steampunk or whatever type of punk this tech is, nope.

Pyschic powers? I know only one mod that does that, it's been released in november of 2019 and hasn't gotten a single update since. This DLC hasn't been made in a month or two, by the time Psychic awakening got released the devs were probably way too invested to scrap the idea just because "there's a mod that does this and that seems to have been released and abandonned immediately afterwards since the dev of the mod sort of retired".

Royal Titles? I guess colony leadership kind of added a system that made one of your pawns a leader but it wasn't all that complex and not a massively popular mod either.

The one complaint I could agree with is that listing new music as a new feature is a bit meh but well music composers aren't free either so it's fair game by my standards.

I don't agree with people complaining about the price for various reasons.

But I honestly believe that people who complain about Ludeon Studios just ripping off content made by mod creators are just next level delusional individuals who have found no other way to justify their price complaints.

Originally posted by cortanakya

So... Vague question in the hopes of a vague answer... Is there any more DLC planned? I'd understand if you didn't want to answer to avoid committing to something but hey, it can't hurt to ask!

Originally posted by Parokki

Can you confirm that the sight of money pouring into your bank account is making you feel warm and fuzzy inside and that we're good boys and girls for buying the DLC?

Originally posted by tearblast

Hey will you ever update the fiction primer to go along with the new DLC? I loved how it set up rim world and would love to see how it would incorporate the dlc

Originally posted by wolfman1911

I don't think that I've ever seen a modder that wasn't ecstatic that their mod got incorporated into the base game. I even heard a rumor that the Vanilla Extended guy got hired by Ludeon, and that had something to do with his livestock mod getting incorporated, but I can't verify that.

Originally posted by jstank2

I remember the early days of Rim World and how involved the players were through the entire process all the way up until the point where Tynan stopped putting out his daily changelog notes. (Not sure what he called it) . It was always a daily ritual coming home from a dull day at work and immediately digging through the forums for little nuggets of what was changing or could change, what I agreed with and what I didn't, what I thought should happen versus what other people thought about the same topic. I really enjoyed being part of that process and even sometimes getting a reply from Tynan himself! I really got the feeling that he was listening to us for the entire time and it felt great. This was at the same time where other games would be stumbling over themselves to find that magic formula of the early access model.

The secret is that the players know best! If something is obviously out of whack about 500 people are going to notice it immediately and tell the developer about it. A good developer takes that data and says... OK! Let's change it! This obviously isn't working. On the other hand, if something clicks, those same alpha players are going to immediately praise the developer for it. I think it was in this fire that Rimworld was truely forged to be a masterpiece game that is universally loved.

When it got to 1.0 I was happy that we had been apart of the process, and a lot of the players decided the process was over and started to move on to other games. So unannounced to us, all the sudden 1.1 is out? Wait, What? Then out of the blue DLC...

I don't know how everyone else feels but I feel that it is a bit odd that the game is no longer forged in our furnace. It feels like, somehow some of the ownership of the game had been lost.

What I fear now with this new model is the continuation of this model going forward. Is it going to turn into something like Sims where new content is trickled in at 20 dollars a pop? That would be quite disappointing. Tynan does deserve my extra 20 dollars, however, if another DLC comes out in a few months demanding another 20 dollars I probably won't be on board. The game really isn't the player's game anymore. We were left out of this DLC and its process. Though I'm glad that some of us were included I wish we all had been. I was kind of hoping for a brand new push to Rimworld 2.0 using ideas from the community to take the game to the next level!

We'll see what happens. The new DLC hasn't even been out for a day yet so who knows what is going to happen next. I just hope the future is bright.

Thanks for everything Tyan, it has been a really great experience watching this game take shape, all 3,476 hours of it!

I mean hell I was content with human leather sandbags!

Originally posted by DarthGrandma

I believe they added ducks/horses/etc from Vanilla Expanded into 1.1, which was, of course, free.

Originally posted by Gwyllie

Tynan please i would like to hear a definitive answer from you regarding DLC-requirement flag for mods, not just speculations from random people.

If there was/is mod that used some content that is now in the DLC directly or via concept, is it going to be flagged as DLC-required?

Is there any limit to stuff people can mod and use without the DLC?

Connected to previous questions, is this DLC in any form limiting to modders in terms of having to actually have to own the DLC? Is in clear theory possible to recreate this DLC as a free mod or will modder hit big wall "Buy here"?

I dont really want RimWorld to end up like Paradox or Bethesda games where one has to own DLC´s for the mods to work in a first place because devs decided that some features are at premium and unmoddable without paying first.

I am not saying that i dont want to buy your DLC or anything. Its just matter of principle regarding freedom of modding and using mods. I still think that out of every possible game studios/devs/publishers out there, you are one of the about dozen that actually deserve every single penny for their work and more.

Originally posted by MDCCCLV

I ended up with a royalty visiting me and he had a mental break and missed his shuttle. Somehow he ended up joining my colony five minutes after it started with him constantly being sad that he is living in a dirt hovel. But he can summon godlike reinforcements and can shoot pretty well.

Originally posted by NotATypicalTeen

Hey, thanks for the awesome game! Having a lot of fun playing it.

Just a quick question though. My friend bought me rimworld as a gift, and helped me download it on my laptop since I'm not the most tech savvy person around. Not through steam, but the way that gave a "DRM-free personal download link". It doesn't look like my copy of rimworld has updated to 1.1 though? Top left of my screen still says 1.0.2408. How/when can I update it?

Also, can I get the royalty DLC on this version of Rimworld or not? Since, again, I don't use steam.

Originally posted by Plu-lax

I've got one where when I murder a noble my colonists inherit their title. Are you tracking that or would you like a bug report?

Originally posted by IFailatGaming1

Hello Tynan, this is slightly off topic with the rest of the thread, but I feel it must be said.

I truly believe that a lot of the noble requirements stiffle creativity, most specifically the clothing and room requirements, for example, if i wanted a throne room with red carpet up to the throne, i wouldn't be able to do so i don't believe, because it's not fine flooring. Similarly, i believe that it's quite silly that you seemingly need a throne room for every noble in your colony, or visitor, which doesn't really make sense.

While I'm overall enjoying the DLC, these concerns have been constantly at the back of my mind, and i hope you can put them to rest. Thank you a lot for rimworld, it has been one of the greatest games I've had the pleasure to play.

Originally posted by Zupercharged

Hi, so I have a specific suggestion about the noble requirements and possible changes if thats alright with you.

A big issue with the noble requirements is the fact that they give the impression your lord pawn arbitrarily becomes more difficult and obnoxious as their rank ascends regardless of their character traits or the intentions of the player. Specifically its the fact that this suggests a sudden personality shift that makes its so jarring since their reaction to their demands not being met is to take it personally, as if the mere granting of a title makes the lord a different and subjectively worse person.

The requirements in themselves generally make sense, there are expectations that come with any rank of nobility, however rather than arbitrary mood debuffs it would be more accurate if the consequences for failing to meet these demands came from outside the colony. Specifically with debuffs to your colony's relations, both official and personal, with the other nobles of the empire.

Take commoner work for example. People have pointed out that a promoted noble would not suddenly dislike a job they still have a passion for, and that some jobs like hunting, tailoring and gardening could be interpreted as noble hobbies. But regardless it would not be unrealistic for a noble who pursues an occupation unbecoming of their rank to be looked down upon by their peers. This could be reflected by negative consequences like diminished reputation gain with noble factions, and for visiting nobility to have a poorer opinion of your lord and colony which could result in political drama instead of an uncharacteristic mood debuff.

I would write more but ive been advised to keep it as brief as possible. That said I do hope you find the feedback constructive!

Originally posted by Isaac_The_Khajiit

I know that it's probably too late to make such a major change, but I also really hate the way noble colonists are handled. I find it immersion breaking for the reasons /u/Zupercharged already mentioned, and also because most players (myself included) dislike mood debuffs that feel arbitrary or unfair.

I personally think it would have made more sense to penalize psychic power users. For example, perhaps the psychic powers give them a weak constitution which makes them become ill if they aren't fed good food, and perhaps they have to recharge their power on an item that's the equivalent of the throne, or maybe psychic power makes them go crazy so they exhibit odd behaviors with random mental breaks.

It might seem nitpicky but for me, logical consistency is very important. The behavior of the noble pawns is downright bizarre considering the rough, almost apocalyptic setting. And having more tangible consequences seems like a good thing too. (Mood debuff hidden in a menu from eating simple food, versus vomiting because the delicate constitution of the psychic is upset.)

Love everything else about the DLC, though. Really glad the power claw made a comeback!

Originally posted by patoarmado

Hello Tynan, thanks for the cool DLC!

After playing a lot of this weekend, here are two very specifics pieces of feedback concerning throne rooms:

• Somehow, silver tiles do not count as "fine" tiles. Not sure if that is intended, but if it is, it would be nice to have "fine" versions of the silver and gold tiles.

• A Knight requires a Harp, but does not accept a Harpsichord or Piano, even though higher levels accept those. Feels a bit weird that the requirement is "exactly this" and not "this or better"

Not related to the throne room, but I also found a really weird bug that when my colonist became a noble, their heir was defined as a pawn that was not one of the colonists. I found out later that the designated heir was actually an ancient soldier sleeping in my ancient danger.