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Hey guys, what happens If, A guy tells you on rocket league that He wants your items for real money, then He sends you the money and you dont give them the items, even if He asks on PayPal to open a dispute telling He didnt get the item Will they give it to him? Even tho is not allowed to trade money for items and He gave money on free Will?

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over 5 years ago - /u/Psyonix_Devin - Direct link

Originally posted by [deleted]

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How do you know the Steam acct you're linking to belongs to OP? This is also witchhunting, IIRC.

over 5 years ago - /u/Psyonix_Devin - Direct link

Originally posted by xaiel420

Guy admitted it by making a post asking “what happens after I scam someone?” - he also posted “I only scammed someone out of 10 dollars” while I agree it is witch-hunting and you have no grounds to take action, it’s pretty sad.

I read OP's post, but how do we know that OP owns the Steam account being linked to in the above comment? Sharing a username =/= same user.

over 5 years ago - /u/Psyonix_Devin - Direct link

Originally posted by RocketBeLeaguered

This is also witchhunting, IIRC.

You must censor player IDs to avoid witch-hunting. Screenshots/videos/clips showing toxic behaviour in game or through messages are not allowed.

He posted about his own behaviour.

Since he admitted it, it is not "witch-hunting", is it?

How do you know the Steam acct you're linking to belongs to OP?

how do we know that OP owns the Steam account being linked to in the above comment

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I didn't say I knew the Steam acct I linked belonged to OP.

What part of me saying "Please look into the trading history " was unclear?

"We", as in me and xaiel420, cannot be sure.

You are a f**king developer. Why are you asking if we can be sure? YOU CAN INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT.

IF the only user on Steam named makuta418 just happens to have received an item for nothing recently, then maybe it's worth continuing the investigation.

IF that trade also has an accompanying in-game chat log where the trade partner mentions paypal, then you can be pretty sure, can't you?

AND IF that trading partner has opened a support ticket about someone taking their items without payment, then you can be pretty sure, can't you?

AND IF there is a Rocket League user named makuta418 who has a LOT of reports made about them regarding scamming, then it's an open and shut case.

However,

If you investigate and find that the only user on Steam named makuta418 has never played Rocket League, then we can conclude that they aren't the same person.

If you investigate and find that no user named makuta418 has ever played Rocket League, then we can conclude that we will likely never find who they are.

Whether or not you choose to do anything about it is up to you, if you don't investigate, then you're never going to find out anything.

You're a developer. I'm only a player, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

He posted about his own behaviour.

Great, except they did not include any sort of user ID or account name in their post. You did, breaking Rule 6, and you included the wrong account. The Steam account you linked to doesn't even own Rocket League, or at the very least has never logged into our servers (and in order to complete a trade, you need to connect to our servers). Couching your post in "You should look into trade history..." doesn't change the fact that it's witch-hunting when you post someone else's account information.

The fact that you linked to an unrelated account -- exposing that accounts unique user ID -- is one of the main reasons why Rule 6 exists.