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almost 4 years ago - /u/JagexOsborne - Direct link

Hey BabystepsX. Would be happy to chat further as a personal message? Feel free to reach out to us for things like this, we are happy to chat.

We chatted about the god trims, and there’s a few reasons we didn’t go with them: they force a god faction on the player, they put the gods into a hierarchy when we want players to consider them as equally viable to support, and the metal tiers are easier for a newer player to understand (you want them to recognise your achievement). Our original plan was to have more metal tiers, but that didn’t work out: hopefully that can change in the future.

I wasn’t aware of a LARP godsword if I am being honest. Is that something that was in your original design?

almost 4 years ago - /u/JagexOsborne - Direct link

Originally posted by mikopono

Hey Mod Osborne,

Thanks for all the hard work you guys putting into the game, Runescape is really starting to enter a new era of better content, quality and communication. But sometimes i just feel a little 'meeeh'. I understand not everything will satisfy every player, but i think feedback is important.

Seeing this message from you and how the pet differentiates in-game really disappointed me as a player. It seems that in your intern conversations you guys lost why this pet was so awesome. With the different kind of rune trimmed armor sets. You guys are thinking about gods, while I for example am thinking about how cool rune Armor sets were back in the day and I'm getting a pet to show off that coolness. mithril, adamantite or normal rune just isn't that cool and I'm not going to get 20k points just for a rune pet. As other people have mentioned you guys could have fixed this problem same as with Felix skins. If you guys intern really found this a problem. That way you could have fixed this 'force a god faction on the player problem'.

It sometimes seems that what intern is thought about, isn't whats going on outside.

Pets were in announced end 2019 and its 2021 now. My question is have you guys ever thought about asking what players what they thought about this 'fundamental' change of this pet? I understand that polls like osrs aren't a good idea, but with these small design changes it might be a good idea to just ask what the players are thinking and especially with these 'player' designed pets.

I'm saying all of this because I sometimes get the feeling that you guys "struggle" with issues that are not issues for a lot of players. + this involving people would create a feeling of connection and involvement and might lead to a great solution and save a lot of time / meetings. But i think it's really important to understand what your costumer wants. But if you understand that and created a expectation you have to deliver on that. or poll what they think about certain changes. Of course a customer doesn't always knows best and that's why its so important to communicate with them.

for example : " Our original plan was to have more metal tiers, but that didn’t work out "
why didn't it work? Help us understand your decision making here. Make us feel more involved!

Thanks for reading this, if you got so far! keep up the great work! I'm already hyped for the new questline and gw3!

Sorry that I can’t reply to the depth you have here. Very generally, we opted for more tiers on Richie rather than more tiers on Zez, and we needed outsource for other Elder God related updates. We often have to make these kinds of decisions.

I appreciate and completely understand (and understood) the tiers of god armour. But older veterans aren’t the only players we make content for. This is a core pet that a lot of people will strive for, and having a detail that a vast majority (especially with new players coming in) won’t understand the nuances of is a problem. If this was a more niche pet, it wouldn’t have been a problem. Over the years we have increasingly made the game complicated for newer players to understand, so this kind of decision needs to be made more.

Still, cosmetic options and toggles for the pet are options for the future, but just wasn’t possible for release

I can assure you that there aren’t interns making decisions on this, it’s designers looking to the future health of the game. A poll also is an odd fit when future players are a consideration

almost 4 years ago - /u/JagexOsborne - Direct link

Originally posted by MarkAntonyRs

Was really hoping for a variant that requires Max score, something that you lose every time there's a new achievement. :c

We actually discussed this! One version had percentages, rather than absolute values, but we opted for this instead. There are positives and negatives between them. In the end, it’s a clearer and more understandable goal to go for RuneScore values

almost 4 years ago - /u/JagexOsborne - Direct link

Originally posted by Hsr_plox

On that note. I like how skill pets show xP when achieved now however what about those of us who had pets prior to this will we see a way to view xD when achieved on the skill pets we own or is that forever out of reach for older players as well?

I get that “new players” is a priority but shouldn’t the people who supported your game for decades also get new updates that aren’t bosses?

Edit: typo

Please don’t think that new players are our priority. Until now, new players weren’t really thought of at all, and that’s why we’ve reached a point of a messy hame for new starters. We need to think of them again.

Active players are still the priority, absolutely.

almost 4 years ago - /u/JagexOsborne - Direct link

Originally posted by Babystepsx

The LARP Godsword was not part of the design. It was listed as an reward for winning. I have emailed a couple times since last February and haven't heard of any more updates on it since then other then a response stating that someone was suppose to go in to get it sent out a while ago.

As to the response for the trim, I can understand where you are coming from to accompany for new players to recognize it more. I just wish this change was mentioned before releasing it as a surprise.

I believe JagexHooli and the team are acting on the Godsword. I messaged them today and they confirmed.

We have shown progress quite frequently on the pets, but this detail may have slipped or not been shown fully. Apologies.