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0s hello everyone welcome we are live with
4s a very special insight into law and also
7s of course when we go through the recent
10s posts we put out yesterday on a comp
12s Cape rework joining me on the couch from
15s right to left
16s Marland a raven hello logic and mod as
19s well represent unfortunately mother was
27s born his name was Jonas an entire stream
28s so he's getting his I'm getting dinner
31s with the inlaws yeah sorry about that
32s not that you're more important no not
34s more important they don't they don't
38s watch this they don't okay so I think we
50s have to start off obviously with release
53s of yesterday in the game update focus of
54s course on desperate times release from
57s the judge Justine you yourself wanna
61s Ryan once over mod camel camel and the
65s other one I'm is in Gemini mesh watch a
68s mesh so first of all I it's - ridiculous
84s renaming of people in our team we were
87s once we've just renamed therefore
88s surname started with the J because it's
90s Howard asked his name to began and one
92s person name started adele nope
94s it's now because of the Jane hello so
100s yeah I mean III have had the last like
103s couple of days off so I'm only come into
105s it today but it seems to gone down
106s pretty well I'm quite I'm quite pleased
108s with that no one's telling me they hate
110s me and twice it went far so that's
112s generally much the posts are positive
115s yeah they like the idea of where it's
118s going yeah people seem to generally
120s enjoy the quest they're interested with
123s some of the things that we chose to do
124s the voice acting went down well good
126s they get weak oh sorry we get a little
129s email as well about kind of quest
130s drop-offs and things like that where
132s people are stuck so we got below
133s kind of and it's always the same point
135s as well as like this is what we have to
137s do something there's a quest drop office
140s people go to do this now actually so
149s you'd said this from earlier and I
151s didn't realize this but some dialog
152s actually isn't viewable correct there
156s was I fixed a bug before it went live
159s we're out of an holiday that was of the
161s simplest of bugs simplest of things is
164s just these characters had an op on them
166s I need to remove that up so I did that
168s completely forgot that the dialogue bit
171s the runs relies on knowing who they are
173s and they had the wrong model so whilst
176s they were stood there there's just so is
178s rolled and ceramic just going in discord
194s going oh I really wish they'd be had
196s like conversation they didn't know and
201s you're just being silly you click and
203s wait oh no an idiot get back to it
206s no bye posted the full dialog in is a
209s discord I mean I did me and and more
214s active always acting classes for duty
228s don't even go there cuz I remember years
231s ago when I first this room are even on
233s oh my god keep here in the name of it
236s and the Linzer quest keep behind the
238s name kindred spirit kindred spirit
240s remember the paper we did and we had to
242s act our way all the way for it it
243s directors and stuff of that and trust me
245s it was not any great we actually used to
255s make an event like the first one I ever
256s did was rip Ludwig monster yeah we did a
258s few of them and then that was that was
260s when I think it was off the heat stream
262s for 18 hours of the infamous 12 plus a
266s stream we
267s strained force up until iframes 2 a.m.
269s in the morning when we did river Bloods
271s and that was just going for everything
273s so I it's it's a thing it was crazy
276s but I remember you insisted on having
278s sake with you so we had to voice when
283s from I've written this this dialogue
286s that I would like to deliver a roughly
287s in line to I'm now sorry that's up
291s you're going about soccer my gear just
292s came out for mega May and it was I think
297s some people story is it terrible people
299s I saw no time see about endgame as well
302s we have got something in the works
305s alright to sell out yeah there's a fix
307s that's being tested now is purely a
309s super simple tiny copy/paste error which
313s is a proper smash my head again to the
315s desk bug but we've got a fix in four
319s others a hotfix that you should stop it
320s happening and there's a fix that's being
323s tested now that should put everyone back
325s is in the year as we caught so it's
327s already been hot fixed to it safe to
328s play before should be and if the quest
330s has been broken then it will then we
332s yeah that's what working now what so
334s what it currently all do is the current
338s version fix it if you can't have played
341s in game it'll set you back to having
342s never played end game if you haven't
346s started in game you it'll set you back
347s to having never started in game if you
350s for some stupid reason have started in
353s game and decided to go I'm going to do
354s the brand new quest midway through I've
356s tried to put you back where I can we've
359s had to do its own even checkpoint type
361s things so you might have to repeat some
363s of that close in and go back a bit
365s further than we'd like but it shouldn't
366s be too bad
367s and the but if you have done it or on a
372s replay mister you just you've been
374s teleported a bit further forward just
376s get to the end and start again it's fine
378s so there's a couple quotes so while
381s we're at it obviously you feel free to
382s ask some questions in chat about
383s desperate times we're trying to answer
384s obviously what we can where possible a
386s couple questions already why did you
388s decide to convey the story with the
390s graphic novel style cutscenes you'll see
392s the first time we've done I mean the
394s simple really answer it is it was
396s cheaper for us to do from a dev point of
398s view
399s like cutscene though quite that what was
402s the magic okay it's also cool I mean I'm
406s cooler from a deaf point of view which
407s is like them so we've built a system
410s that took more wineries a long time to
412s make but it means that we can do stuff
413s like this really quickly now as long as
415s we have the art assets which means that
417s not only can we bill it really quickly
419s it also means that we can make changes
420s to it quite quick so one of the things
422s we can do is we can actually voice
425s recorder so one of the things that
427s happens is a visual vo is they'll go
429s away the recorder and the chamber lined
430s so we have to tweak it
432s whereas doing in this way means that
434s they can record it and tweaking the
435s lines isn't really a problem when we're
437s doing a big fall you're blind cutscene
438s it can't be because it can adjust timing
440s this time the other well it's not really
442s a problem the new system we've done it
443s also it looks pretty yeah sort of those
446s things there because it is quite
447s stylized they look yes looks really nice
449s more properly aged quite well as well
451s exactly yeah so aged nicely it'll work
453s on like most weird setups that people
456s have yeah yeah I mean any looks pretty
459s yeah I like it
461s second one was why wouldn't the Penguins
464s at Sharon's council the because i know
468s you have no idea how much time we spent
471s writing all that dialogue but all those
473s people i oh god yeah it was then some of
479s that got cut and adding in even more
482s just for the sake of saying oh we've got
484s the penguin no one's gonna bring the
486s Penguins to a war council the Penguins
488s are insane
489s they're doing that the perfect reason oh
491s really
501s can you know people have spotted the
503s Penguins on there that a massive hidden
507s definitely I mean he's you know he is
511s the power to make this a thing so take
513s what he says is true we not I'm totally
519s on board brackets okay so I'm gonna cuz
524s I know what I'm gonna go in a little bit
527s so I want to get on to concave surfaces
529s you're gonna get talking about that so
531s and then come back to law
533s so obviously Monday morning released a
536s new doubt blog post which was the
538s concave rework simplified now first of
541s all for those who haven't read if it's
544s on runescape dot-com do check that out
545s but in a summary can you watch a kind of
548s summarize what the idea is the basic
550s idea is that we've cut it down to the
551s simplest possible design because we've
553s got a lot of feedback that the previous
554s version was just getting too elaborate
555s now and so we've cut it down to we've
559s identified the absolute core problems in
561s fixing your your input was that we would
564s lift the requirement that it had to have
565s all the additional stepping stones yeah
567s so we lifted that as a requirement from
568s the project and then made essentially
570s one the simplest change we could to fix
573s each of the problems that remained so
577s it's minimal changes we have we have a
579s couple of extra points based on feedback
581s we'll go into in a minute
582s yeah but sorry so it's so it's Reaper
585s off comp Castle Wars off trim removed
589s the keep the stats and utility changes
592s that we've proposed in the previous
593s version so you'll no longer need the
596s combat passives yeah to get to get the
598s best combat stats in the game you'll no
599s longer need comp you will need Reaper so
601s anything those stats onto Reaper look at
605s the design see the full thing that's
606s that's the TLDR of it so this so just to
610s clarify right now from a us to anything
614s else
614s this is deadlock as a design nothing's
617s gonna change we're not going to suddenly
618s go back to the elaborate design I mean
620s at some point we're gonna have to start
622s developing that's that's true we've got
624s the development team have been kind of
628s not spending their wheels but they've
629s been working looking at this scored I've
631s been kind of changing the design up a
633s lot but at some point they can have to
635s start making this piece of content it
636s could go on forever you know we could
638s keep on having conversations about this
639s but to be honest that the community that
641s there are so kind of disparate kind of
643s ideas or thoughts about what the update
644s should be and many of them are so though
646s that those opinions are so strong so
648s passionate that we'll never get those
650s opinions to meet and so really we have
652s to start developing now but yeah I
657s wouldn't say it's hard and Stonewall
658s we're still going to we're still looking
660s for feedback we're still looking for
661s kind of things that we may have missed
662s up man mistaken or not had you know
665s we may have missed in some way we've got
668s a couple of examples I think we could
669s probably start talking about that yeah
670s so I'll dive into obscene questions I
674s feel like we kind of need to jump off
675s right now so obviously we're taking away
678s reaper but then the point was brought up
680s well right now you need to get to Seoul
683s a class-based welcome user track which
685s is part of the music maestro achievement
686s data contract yes still technically in a
688s sense reaper in that sense so yeah what
691s are we doing in those scenarios probably
693s for that what we'll do is change it so
694s all the music tracks are unlocked at the
696s start yeah so you do still have to go so
698s you're not phasing don't you not have to
700s go through to the sacrifice probably
701s okay and we mentioned at the time the
706s post when anyone who had the how many
708s games treatments would login from this
711s update they would lose of course that
714s not Lou sorry the requirement wouldn't
715s be on the trim calm but they would be
717s given the gold the profound tile so a
720s feedback on that has been negative
722s sure I think the phrase used was a slap
724s in the face
725s yeah one of the suggestions was that we
728s could implement a golden halo instead so
730s look to that we think that's a great
731s idea yeah there was a concept put up on
733s reddit that we deny we don't think we
735s don't think we can make that one
736s necessarily be exactly that agenda
737s mining might be a recolor of one of the
739s existing halos or it might be a new
740s model that's with the art team at the
741s moment yeah exactly so we like the
743s suggestion of golden halo yeah yeah I
744s don't see why we can't get the title as
746s well yeah well I mean the title is I
749s mean title and halo is better than just
751s titled yes when you look at it from the
754s scenario I do imagine and we'll see what
757s the chat say but I do imagine some of
759s them were going about a fallow or and so
760s on and so forth but I was zooming their
762s doe scenarios are already been accounted
764s for and stuff for that and discussed I
765s don't know we can look at that okay cool
768s the other bit of feedback that we got
770s was there's there's a perception and I
774s think it's fair to have this perception
775s that what we're doing is making comp and
777s trim easier because we're removing a
779s requirement for a compliment removing a
780s requirement from trim and we said oh we
782s probably will add more requirements
784s later but that isn't obviously saying
787s that we might do something later isn't
788s it's a comp or trim out two votes above
790s okay so I've been running around today
793s each angle players on the discord and
794s the plan that we have is because it
797s isn't our intention to make them easier
799s this update that we want to add salty
801s sandy and EIU IO which is broadly
805s speaking complete the arc complete men
807s of the cell and complete the player and
809s farm at all of those to trim okay so not
813s to replace castle walls cuz that implies
815s it's like a one-for-one swap but just to
816s demonstrate that we are willing to add
818s more to trim now that's the point we're
820s not getting rid of cause it's in easier
822s we're getting rid of yes about it does
823s fit in with the completionist exactly
826s scenario never added and there's a very
828s strong feeling that they should have
829s been added I think there's a general
830s perception that with the changes we are
832s made we are making is in an attempt to
835s make comport trim easier which is not
837s the case if that all of these changes
837s that we are making is where the
839s long-term intent to make them you know
843s more complete more complete I guess yeah
845s rather than harder I'm in that by
847s removing the stats by pushing rebrov et
849s cetera we can now with every update we
852s produce with real confidence and with
853s true guidelines attach achievements to
855s them yeah so that over time we can have
859s something that is truly hard to achieve
860s is Commission its oriented that kind of
862s thing so actually everything we're doing
863s is to make them inverted commas harder
866s over time so while I'm understanding
867s here is based on the suggestions of
869s additions there's skilling stuff mmm as
871s the consideration of Reaper for trim
873s being fought about at all we're thinking
875s about it I don't I don't want to add
877s that at this stage we still we still
879s need to laugh I'm accuracy it's because
882s of the problem with the bosses we need
884s to look at that that some people have
885s asked for example 100 percent is on trim
891s and like does that make sense but we got
893s sure though that's the point about this
895s version of the design we're trying to
896s make the minimal number of changes
897s that's the point of this design and then
899s we can look at it we can launch it we
901s can look at revising it further in
903s future okay I've aspirations for how I
905s would like to handle Reaper but that's a
908s much more complicated long-term project
909s that isn't just shuffling achievements
910s around yeah there was a lot comment got
913s conversation at the time about not
915s understanding the bridge that we put
917s forward a lot of kind of criticism that
920s we were on making incremental changes
921s rather than large change large changes
924s those that criticism was coming up a lot
925s but fundamentally for me
927s is absolutely so important that
930s achievement is one of the simplest
931s things in the game
932s for achievement have value other people
934s need to understand what it is and if you
936s get to a state whereby people have a
937s number of different achievement states
938s and you can't recognize it then that
940s devalue you know that means that I can't
943s represent my achievements to others say
945s laps players come in say new players
946s coming they don't recognize what you've
947s done and that is problematic for
949s achievement so that was a big driver
952s yeah there's a powerful piece of feed
954s work there I guess that if I've got one
955s of 15 capes on I can go look up on a
958s chart what that cape is and what its
959s Rukia
960s but if it's trim its running we were
961s confident that we could achieve that
963s with the design that we had but yeah
965s there are there are still problems and
968s risks they attach that so you think
971s there's a little bit that this slight
973s bit of confusion come from the fact that
974s maybe we didn't finalize the design
975s obviously at the point we were still on
978s board doing that design we was still
979s also making changes and stuff do you
981s feel like if the design was if we said
984s this is the final design now the
986s confusion might have gone away I don't
987s believe so
988s I can't believe so I feel like we it
992s would have cleared up some things for
993s people it might have won some people
995s round but they still doesn't change the
996s fact of how many tears there are how
998s fundamentally destructure of it is I'm
1001s hard to present or it could be he
1003s perceived as complex oh yeah a couple
1006s questions for the chats how does this
1008s new design solve the problem of giving
1010s players new milestones between Max and
1012s comp that was so that was the
1014s restriction that was making the project
1017s so complicated so that isn't as many
1019s like overwhelming piece of feedback that
1021s we got was essentially no one asked for
1023s this like that was a that was an update
1025s that we gave ourselves cuz we thought
1026s the game needed it nothing wasn't that's
1028s not an ongoing long-term problem that
1029s gets brought up with comp a lot which
1031s reap rewards are they get brought up
1032s again and again and again yeah so I mean
1035s one of the core things that we're
1037s looking at for this year is new ways for
1039s a player to achieve that isn't going to
1040s go away
1041s we still want that and part the reason
1042s why we're doing this update so with each
1044s update we produce there could be more
1045s achievements and requirements that
1046s probably it stuck record they're they're
1048s all going still going to be new ways
1050s that you could represent yourself it's
1051s just that this is so core this is this
1053s is achievement in runescape it needs to
1056s be very simple yeah
1059s do we see I mean I know the capes are in
1061s concept it but they are we not seeing
1064s them full stop now just to clarify the
1065s whole problem
1066s okay and also there's been a couple
1069s things have come up for example like you
1071s know there was a what in that update
1073s there was a way of skill as we know off
1075s their achievements like for example 5.4
1076s bill k plus one and so forth as 4.4 was
1079s never on the table in it sorry apologies
1081s but ways for skill as trough
1083s achievements in some sort of cave way
1085s right correctly yes so but that's now
1089s happening as well yeah that's that
1091s starts to do with the problem of there
1092s being so many different forms of
1093s achievement that do you know essentially
1096s you need a you know you need a chart to
1098s find out why it means mmm-hmm
1101s so as it stands then you know you
1103s mentioned Felton has to start happening
1105s I know it's early days but do we know
1107s when we can start seeing these changes
1109s because obviously as a result everyone
1111s will want to know when it's happening so
1113s if they're waiting on that should Castle
1115s Wars Benziger they can get their trim do
1116s you want the team is they're planning to
1118s be transparent about what they're
1119s producing I think so yeah they're just
1121s getting on with it yes it's um I mean we
1124s have been doing a deal of work up to
1125s this point a lot of passive stuff has
1126s been done would being tested its current
1129s yeah but the hard the hard bit of
1131s developmental work hasn't changed yeah
1132s and they're still getting on well at
1134s some point we need to make a decision so
1135s we could start work yeah because I'm
1137s Utley this team hasn't been producing
1139s other content at the same time or at
1140s least very minor ly so really we don't
1143s want to lose that team you know we want
1145s to get them working I wanted to be
1146s another one again smithing yeah yeah
1147s yeah where they'll be on that one
1149s project for so long that they haven't
1151s had their not being their fair share to
1153s do other things for the game right
1154s that's it so and we want the other the
1157s rest of the game to benefit not suffer
1160s do we see any is anything happen aground
1162s on grace period does that just not live
1164s stuff or we do something we decided so
1167s we've implemented it technically so it
1168s can be used we'll probably use it when
1171s we said we're going to add new
1172s requirements to trim
1173s we'll probably implement a grace period
1175s for that because a lot of people aren't
1175s paying attention to social media they'll
1177s log in they'll suddenly find that they
1178s need salty for trim so we'll put a grace
1180s period on for that I think we agreed
1182s we're not planning to la razón periods
1183s and yeah there'll be updates I mean if
1185s you look surely and historically things
1186s like invention things like metaphors we
1188s may have done a grace period because of
1189s having young main player in form for
1191s example with you and we'll have we'll
1192s have the tech there so we can get a
1194s better date but as standard we will not
1196s be adding grace periods because you know
1197s the joy of the chase
1199s the joy of completion ISM largely
1202s removing the stats so people who aren't
1203s interested in completion ISM are no
1205s longer interested really in comp removes
1207s the problem so stats on yes sorry yes
1210s you won't yeah you all have to rush
1214s ticket because you need Reaper for the
1215s stats you will have to rush to kill a
1217s new boss to get you stats but that seems
1219s appropriate that's fine that's yeah
1220s that's yeah that seems about right now I
1222s think that adds to the who's gonna kill
1224s it first and therefore hosts have to do
1225s it or exactly it was someone having to
1227s rush livid farm to get their stats back
1229s I could go back to boss that was the
1231s problem so one of the questions in
1234s regards to Casa wars is you know was
1238s there a consideration to tone down the
1240s value needed to get that requirement
1242s ticked off I think there's a point of
1245s which like any amount of standing around
1247s in the dead mini game is too much you
1248s know like I realized that there are
1250s perhaps perhaps other achievements that
1251s you could question on that basis but
1253s again it's in terms of its simplicity
1255s yeah it's easier to say it's gone it's
1257s easier to just communicate and
1258s understand that as a rule of thumb for
1260s this year I would say that we are trying
1262s to design things instead of trying to
1265s design things as if we were going to be
1266s designing them from today Casa Wars if
1269s we were going to if we're going to rock
1270s completely crater completion ism system
1272s create a complicate we would not have
1273s put that on there and part of that kind
1276s of deviation and shift is that we want
1277s it to you know be bolder and remove
1280s things that wouldn't be there if we're
1281s designing from now right you gotta go oh
1285s yes sorry I'm two minutes nothing I was
1292s just loving the very subtle message of
1294s Lake save time but I ran it is Dave died
1300s [Laughter]
1303s enjoy so people are asking what's going
1306s on with mobile or do we have news there
1309s is a dev blog that is in the works for
1312s mobile looking together out in the next
1314s couple of weeks that will touch upon a
1316s few things obviously we want to get to
1318s that point we can get more view in game
1320s on Android and sometime in the future of
1324s course for people iOS is getting there
1326s as well but nothing to confirm just yet
1329s but the dev blog will help us make
1331s another step there did their blogs just
1333s trying to
1333s keep you updated as to what's going on
1335s in the world of mobile I mean we can
1340s talk about the comp stuff I'm safe all
1343s shreem but everything we need to come
1345s back to law stuff okay so I mean it goes
1350s without saying I think it's about time
1353s ones have been two and a half years
1354s since we've had the next step in the
1355s storyline for runescape and game and now
1358s on - here we are with a desperate times
1361s so I mean I want I want more quests I
1365s mean do it I mean you're talking to the
1369s wrong people here going what more
1370s questions like lovemaking question like
1373s yes we yeah we are down with this we are
1376s more questions coming okay so the way
1379s the storyline works is it's not told
1381s entirely through question so there will
1384s be non quest updates that continue this
1386s story okay so now sort of tying that in
1389s as well obviously if I everyone just
1392s keep asking your questions and we'll
1395s kind of just go from there
1396s there is obviously the hidden dollar on
1399s that sorry no hidden dialogue the
1400s dialogue you can't see currently
1403s which is from the desperate times quest
1406s I didn't expect this but I mean I can
1408s easily throw the floor over to Mordor
1410s even in my jacket they really want to
1412s yeah that's real is this what's
1414s happening but how are you gonna do mine
1417s well this is just so awful it's snuggly
1420s that's nug Li so we're having a snuggle
1423s while you read dialogue that should have
1426s been in the quest wow I've literally
1429s seen everything in this stream now like
1431s in three years I've been destroyed so
1435s everything what might be a better idea
1440s is actually John are you able to get the
1443s Google Doc up on that screen that no
1447s that would make it a lot easier Joe Jim
1450s on smuggles are nice and all but I
1451s finger we better if we just have on the
1453s screen so they can actually create a
1454s better competitor you just don't want
1457s our love admitted do you a new quest is
1462s awesome good job that's always nice I
1464s mean again the quest I think we've been
1466s very
1467s the response to it yeah was there any
1470s any newbs about the quest at all because
1473s it's obviously always nerves about
1476s always yeah we hit some hiccups along
1482s the way which is always something
1484s Michigan there was yeah we found like a
1488s couple of lines that it's one that I
1490s should have changed the one you like oh
1492s okay I guess that's canon now we look we
1495s launched through the title of a thing
1496s that wasn't meant if you're tired love a
1497s thing oh good no-one's commented on it
1501s so hopefully that's fine yeah no one's
1503s picked up on the subtle sarin character
1510s now yeah I'm dumb no I'm in charge
1513s my role is done it's a villainous fear
1515s right wait are you brawled a you are a
1517s you're are anyway I'm done my work here
1525s so we're gonna do a Namek what we're
1527s about
1527s so what are you were about to see is
1529s because why not we just felt it
1532s it's a law special where your boundaries
1534s dialogue some law acting so to speak
1537s courtesy a bond Raven ammo Jack this is
1539s these are two scenes in the quest which
1542s you currently cannot see and you will be
1545s able to I'm rhyming I am fixing okay
1548s cool it should be going like the same
1549s time the endgame things fixed fingers
1551s crossed so for the people on the eros
1554s where he want to do transcriptions of
1556s these scenes for the quests you have a
1557s little bit of finality then by all means
1560s so uh yeah I've also posted up in the
1561s discord you want to make a levy easier
1563s and just go and copy do that I think
1567s it's in the ask J modes North Red Team
1569s copy paste that fun basically this was
1574s meant to be when
1575s role dynamic was staring at each other
1576s from across the table that was meant to
1578s be actual dialogue I will try and do my
1581s king royal voice it's quite hard being
1586s the king you know when you're literal
1588s God is nearby
1589s no one will really wants to listen to
1592s the king I can imagine no one really
1595s wants your advice as a king when your
1597s god is next to a camera sorry
1599s though they'll come round and say how
1601s far it's only ever for the paperwork no
1606s one really wants to you know yes your
1610s majesty
1610s terribly tragic my art overflows with
1614s sympathy for you but I really must urge
1617s you back to the point at hand I need to
1620s know how many young men you can push to
1622s the white knights conscription really
1627s [Music]
1629s [Laughter]
1644s conscription really is this we have come
1647s to we're not at war what could we
1649s possibly need - conscription your pardon
1652s Your Majesty but I must correct you we
1655s are not at war yet the Black Knights are
1658s up to something we need to be prepared
1660s for them fine fine fine
1663s what saradomin wants saradomin gets but
1668s i think it's all of us over nothing with
1672s authority and then the second one yeah I
1675s mean we need you for the second one what
1677s Archie's what are their free bets oh
1679s wait you have to be see okay sure sure
1683s come on this dequarius and crane and in
1687s this one crane and Black Rock actually
1691s their sound their lines do exist would
1694s it works as a conversation it's just a
1697s bit weird but Aquarius is Aquarius is
1700s kind of the important part and he
1703s magically wasn't there so who's being
1705s who you be the query I've been Aquarius
1707s rain I'll be Buckshot we need to make
1711s sure that we're ready the white knights
1714s are conscripted we need to be ready the
1716s white knights have an edge on the
1718s propaganda war though don't forget where
1720s the evil blackness black knights getting
1723s new recruits won't be that easy we could
1727s encourage people to join
1729s fear is a great motivator but it doesn't
1733s inspire great loyalty Sara diamonds
1736s methods and actions have begun to spread
1738s questions among the people terrible
1741s virus questions these disunity and
1744s betrayal the people will feel lost angry
1749s hello and that's where we come in we
1752s shall be a safe haven for those willing
1754s to think outside their cage the white
1757s knights won't know what hit them
1758s I really feel like we should have power
1760s power we fool why not just do something
1769s like that because it's not in the game
1770s currently where it's a law stream we're
1772s gonna have a bit of fun with it Gibbs
1779s get the j-mods to voice that request am
1781s I like yeah voice acting boy I mean I
1784s mean it's been a cabbage but also
1786s Terrica that's true I did scream in
1789s dragonkin yes she did but we had we have
1794s actual voice okay right this is the
1796s pepper coupe soap I mean this is if I
1797s get so we went with there is some actual
1799s voice acting request we voiced sarin
1801s wait are we doing - we should have a
1802s spoiler warning shouldn't we really I
1804s mean it's a lot on the quest and the
1808s warning for the quest we voiced sarin
1810s gothics kara pack and sliska yeah and I
1815s went down to London to supervise that
1816s because you were very busy
1817s yeah and so actually what is it like
1820s supervising I'm just genuinely it's
1822s really interesting how does it really
1825s yeah so that the voice actor comes in I
1828s have it so like they've probably been
1830s shown the script like so they can do
1833s that what sort of like an audition tape
1835s yeah but other than that they're not
1837s intimately familiar with the character
1839s they're like but they've done loads of
1840s fantasy stuff so the like who Sarah and
1842s righteous a magical goddess they're like
1843s ray okay cool and and then they just go
1846s in and then they just try it's and
1847s sometimes they just nail it straight
1848s away sometimes they try out different
1849s voices to experiment the the gothics guy
1853s just came in - I think we said something
1854s I do Optimus Prime and he just came in I
1856s need to swear hello I am great and we
1859s were just like yet buzz it that's the
1860s perfect so he just he just read all that
1862s out and it was fine and then he
1863s did he start making gobbling sound face
1867s it was while they had him in because
1869s that booked in for an hour they only
1870s took him 20 minutes to do island for the
1872s quest so they get some like goblin pain
1875s sounds for some reason he was just the
1878s same little friendly guy wearing a
1880s weight scale he came in a waistcoat and
1881s after doing gothics he started doing
1885s goblins alright so what have we got in
1889s order see we have that lot to play so
1890s what are we so with the the guy who came
1893s in to Duke Arabic we didn't have so we
1895s haven't voiced keropok before and we
1897s didn't have a specific voice in mind
1899s like we knew we wanted him to sort of be
1902s intellectual and we knew we didn't want
1903s him to make sort of because he'd
1904s imagined someone I care about you might
1905s voice with lots of sort of missing and
1908s snake noises and we didn't want that
1909s because it's a v8 passion per se so we
1911s just said go you know you're an ancient
1913s lizard man you're an ancient lizard man
1916s that was the go for it and he started
1919s just experimenting with different voices
1920s can you play us I think number one yes
1922s all the pieces we said specifically no
1926s he's completely emotionless that's what
1927s we said hmm sorry ones that John can you
1929s turn the speaker up in the room just so
1931s we can show me know when the clips over
1933s that's all sorry otherwise we just say
1935s no no that was why I asked yeah so we're
1939s gonna play that again everyone just so
1940s we can hear ourselves and we know when
1941s to start talking all the pieces are
1943s falling into place no no we got that
1947s yeah so he immediately does this
1949s fantastic gravelly voice he says he'd
1950s never done a voice like that before for
1951s like a like a lizard man type K he's
1953s really versatile voice actor hold the
1957s Ashton sent me his no much I remember
1959s now he did this gravelly voice was
1963s completely emotionless and he read the
1964s whole speech out in that voice I'm just
1966s like that's really appropriate for the
1968s character but it's really boring to
1969s listen to can you like do it a bit more
1972s excitingly so then he did he did a
1974s couple more takes can he play number
1975s three all the pieces are falling into
1978s place so he started doing it with a lot
1981s more emotion yeah the difference is the
1982s gravelly Ness is kind of gone there the
1983s gravel eNOS is gone so then my head of
1986s audio said can you do both at once
1988s mmm-hmm sure and I was like how does
1990s that make sense so then he did he did
1991s number four all the pieces
1994s falling into place and then that was and
1997s then we went and that wasn't we had no
2000s schools the penny stops can you stop
2006s nice things he just starts freestyling
2010s so while we're out carrot back actually
2012s can we talk about the model very quickly
2015s actually yes as a know obviously going
2017s to wave with the quest there came out
2020s the cataract model hasn't changed from
2022s what it was into this new one so we're
2025s kind of talked about that what
2026s what do you inspiration and everything
2028s else that came Fred I mean inspiration
2030s was he wanted to shine in you Kara back
2032s yeah so we made a couple of tweaks term
2034s so we give him this mask the implication
2037s behind the mask is the last time you see
2039s care about before this of course he
2040s blows at the zone of giants so that was
2042s to indicate like shrapnel that had like
2044s damage from his face one to give him
2045s that kind of scarred hero to the Dragon
2048s King kind of thing so he gave him this
2049s funky gold mask
2050s he helps differentiate him a bit as well
2053s yeah that to make him stand out yeah the
2054s dragon can have look a bit similar he's
2056s a different color but he doesn't really
2058s doesn't even like if you just stood
2060s store it saw him in isolation you just
2061s might so he wants to make a thing that
2063s really made him stand out yeah we want
2067s to just sort of bring the dry and care
2069s into most of the more modern art style
2071s that we do and because unsurprisingly
2074s Kara back we're going to use a bit more
2075s and we wanted to really I thought it
2078s wasn't gonna be any more question no a
2080s new model just for ya make sequester by
2084s mare so there's a couple questions
2086s actually comes out in relation to
2087s desperate times
2089s is there a combination that leaves
2091s everyone satisfied at the meeting at the
2092s beginning of the quest couldn't you find
2095s it that would make the quest not work
2098s and some of this is yet they were like
2099s maybe there is a secret combination yeah
2101s the quest plays out completely
2103s differently there was a my when I
2105s originally finished doing it there was
2106s this accommodation that what it just
2108s made it one just stand there because I
2110s broke it
2112s unsurprising though there's no
2113s combination that works so you were
2115s deliberately mentor I mean it was very
2117s much a bringing the same subject but at
2119s the table four times and in all failing
2121s horribly and no one agreeing in just
2123s being an impossible situation it was
2125s very deliberately referencing some
2127s but yeah it couldn't work there are s
2131s music playing now they're just saying
2134s Irish music but I don't know if it's too
2135s loud I just noticed I just want to
2136s double check this piece of clay it's not
2138s just some magical for now Morris music
2140s it's great I'm gonna try and read this
2148s answer this if you guys want to I relate
2150s its current events track a lift in the
2151s Haunted mine means Teutons there was
2153s originally Dragon King right
2155s they match the making humanoid but much
2157s cause description wait what
2159s track a lift in the Haunted mine means
2161s so based on what's happened on the
2163s events ongoing in current events does
2166s the DRA cliff in the Haunted mine mean
2167s the town's there was originally Dragon
2169s King no not necessarily
2171s Dracula means dragons briefed on it it
2174s doesn't necessarily mean dragon king
2175s over there that's quite simple yeah I
2179s think I'm remembering the law correctly
2181s that fact with his form when it's like
2184s dragon's breath that's been captured in
2185s stone this is obvious that this is a
2187s quest this is a spoiler but obviously
2189s we've made this very clear so I'm just
2190s gonna read this and see I imagine I can
2194s pretty much guess what Ravens reactions
2196s gonna be
2196s was that gothics path just a trippy
2199s vision and was that really us who did
2200s that thing this so the those moments
2206s were kind of memories of parts of time
2209s they had been stitched together by the
2210s needle so it wasn't so much the player
2212s having themselves killed gothic so
2215s though if you think about it the player
2216s is the reason gothics is dead you're
2221s traveling in time you're not traveling
2222s in time you're seeing moments of history
2224s stitched together and brought together
2225s yeah you can't change the past you
2227s haven't your actions haven't well okay
2230s your actions in this quest aren't what
2233s led to gothics dying your actions in a
2235s very effective die but that's for your
2239s conscience not mine nor do we see the
2245s quest ring transmog model of care a
2248s factor in changes in your model
2251s potentially okay there are a number of
2253s things that we didn't update purely
2255s because we because of the snags we hear
2258s early that I mentioned
2260s meant that we couldn't dedicate the
2262s keyway time to getting them done the
2263s curate are meant to be spent on the kick
2265s gain the quest right when we have but is
2272s it's a very small the illustrates the
2275s difficulty of qi actually because i am
2277s like the requires you to a started
2280s endgame not completed endgame then gone
2283s and played well you don't have started
2285s in a game you can just the bug caused
2287s you to get yeah exactly and this
2294s particular bug went through code of view
2295s and everything i said it's just one of
2297s those sort of daft code buying city
2299s lines that's just it's literally a line
2301s of code that we should have checked how
2303s long had the quest been in development
2305s read about what we call sprint so the
2311s read about four five Sprint's on this or
2315s about eight weeks eight weeks planning
2319s wow we did koala planning know there's
2320s planning before that yeah this is i'm
2322s talking purely the development on avail
2324s okay cool i just realised only shouldn't
2330s care pack have lost his memories when i
2331s became attuned to the needle you weren't
2335s paying attention to what came back was
2336s doing the whole reason that was the
2339s whole reason the karapaks the whole
2340s reason for the middle part the choir
2341s yeah i mean he didn't he wanted the
2344s whole the the chaos device thing so that
2347s he could overcome the needles implement
2348s it wasn't so he could magically a few
2352s days so he could steal the power of the
2354s needle for himself but keep himself that
2357s was the whole middle point i mean for me
2361s in so i'm not massively but i'm not
2364s massive loss fan unappreciative the
2366s story and stuff what it should be for me
2370s the needles now like the most badass pin
2373s in now current story in our story in at
2375s the moment based on as a device I think
2378s it's not sinned above ways but for me I
2380s think it's the most but I mean it's real
2381s artifact yeah all the other artifacts
2383s are really rather badass our own
2385s particular way oh oh I had a fact that
2387s just really liked I can't remember
2389s Neil's mod name but the concept artist
2392s who
2392s drew the armadyl battle staff mentioned
2395s on your chair that when he originally
2398s drew the armored or battle staff it was
2400s intended to be a replacement for the
2402s staff of armed Oh hmm when the staff
2403s Armada was renewing sorry I'm
2405s referencing the fact that in the video
2406s at the start of in the trailer you
2409s reference in a story so far in the video
2411s at the end of the story yeah
2413s at the end of the quest shows the staff
2415s of armed ill and it looks like an armed
2416s about stuff which is an error yeah but
2421s there Neil mentioned that when he was
2422s the guy who drew that original arm was a
2424s lot of stuff back in the day and it was
2425s intended to be the staff of armadale but
2428s it was then never used for that purpose
2429s and was used for the backup instead so
2431s 10 I'm counting that as cannon that's
2432s fine yep
2433s technically the staff won't know it just
2434s looks like whatever you want it to look
2435s like yeah I mean his cannon argument was
2437s that it's the little green stone and
2439s that's what did it yeah yeah he as he
2442s imagined it that the tiny green stone is
2443s this the artifact and the staff is just
2445s a housing for him yeah but the staff can
2448s shape it too yeah
2450s so as I know regarding Rufus gonna come
2454s up with a better invest weapon the news
2455s to give you at the moments and I
2457s understand that's frustrating of course
2459s but yeah we have no new news to give you
2462s regarding room fest so moment we have
2465s that's yeah okay I'll give it to you as
2468s soon as we can
2470s I know it's frustrating cuz obviously
2472s it's just me repeating the same thing
2473s every time the question comes up but
2474s unfortunately we're desperate to tell
2477s everyone everything and as soon as we're
2479s allowed to tell
2481s yep our problem is telling people things
2485s slightly too soon not too late usually
2486s don't think we have a whole information
2489s back accident if it's King role dialogue
2492s so someone says did so did so let's get
2495s really cool graphics wait what
2499s sorry yes just a really cool gothics
2501s sorry I was your assignment the question
2503s I was selling it he's terrible pun was
2506s proposed the punchy's is armindel's
2508s Butler technically the staff of our
2511s model Wow the cheese shout yeah you're
2518s fired
2518s [Laughter]
2528s yeah it's all clothes and everything
2529s that's all they took was a little bit of
2531s a little bit of obviously it's all so we
2537s have do we have more voiceover stuff to
2540s play or was it just that I only their
2542s are out there are dozens of them but I
2543s only saw how those through we could
2546s stitch together the entire speech but
2547s that would take yeah just give up I'm
2550s not sure how to there's the classic
2552s cause I probably upload them to discord
2554s if he's super super interested come all
2557s the lore discord and ask me and I can
2558s play some of them there was the
2559s classical oil question we get every time
2561s we do one of the streams what's happened
2562s it was out AK things his his his plans
2567s have been halted yes definitely
2569s ambassador I was before you're gonna say
2571s shelved an attack has been resolved yeah
2580s just leave it at cop yeah that's fair
2582s that's everyone's now talking about all
2587s the pieces brilliant come that infamous
2589s voice line that we've now played and
2591s repeat it many times
2592s Shirley tell us write this and Outlands
2593s please know that's why the announcement
2595s is a surprise and if you're wondering
2597s what that is a bounce hi sorry just that
2601s the or the tone of your voice if no
2603s that's why it's a surprise it's such a
2605s like oh that was such a parent voice was
2608s that it really was the next stream
2616s actually on Friday and that's a free
2618s p.m. game time it will be the when
2621s mantra nice dead stream so going through
2624s some specific stuff such as slowest boss
2627s killers of all time which is gonna be
2628s very interesting looking at some
2630s incredibly slow time to those boss kills
2632s along with other stuff along the way
2635s with that and that stream was also going
2637s to have a surprise what the surprise is
2639s you have to wait and see so I do come
2642s watching on Friday I really really
2645s recommend you do so I that'll be the
2649s next three months ride a then we have
2651s two streams on that weekend one on
2653s Saturday is the featured streamer
2654s which is cash stack who's doing PBM
2656s challenges and that is at 1:00 p.m. game
2659s time 1300 and Sunday will be mod leader
2662s in PBM on Virago Sunday the 19th at 1800
2667s game time as well so just wrapping up
2670s those streams right there anything you
2674s see in the chat by the way guys just
2675s farm grab well feel free to read mostly
2678s I see hi mod so hi mod mod Hogan and I
2681s had been working on stone spirit stuff
2683s we'll talk about that more when we've
2685s got more to say about it like he's he's
2688s actually actively working on it now oh
2689s yeah some of the stuff Xin I can so I
2693s can so we looked at some of the data and
2695s that so there are three stone spirits
2699s which are significantly lower in value
2701s than the associated or and we're going
2703s to look at fixing those three
2704s specifically because they're over
2705s dropped which ones they are I've talked
2706s mad they're over dropped she's just the
2710s supply is ridiculous so they're worth
2711s nothing but with the all the other stone
2714s spirits are worth about the same as the
2716s or in some cases slightly more so what
2719s we need to do is fix the value of all
2720s the reason that stone so if we replace
2722s the stone spirit drops with or drops as
2724s they were before or they would still be
2726s worthless because or is worth less but
2729s they would be worth significantly less
2730s because all is worth so little so we're
2732s trying to focus on ways that we can
2734s increase the value or by essentially by
2738s improving this myth things go but we do
2740s want to fix that so that the specific
2741s job tables that drop vast quantities of
2743s stone spirits that are tanked in value
2744s because that stones various massive
2746s Davis of product we are planning to fix
2747s anyway there's a question I noticed that
2750s you were a Ben which was in the council
2752s meeting Kim role mentions about some
2754s sort of farming deals obviously
2755s referring to of that he was wrong to the
2758s loose alliance of farmers there you go
2762s context I want to talk about I'd like so
2766s I guess this is obvious right out
2768s strategy strategy sells a bit pump is
2770s calling a strategy strategy now how
2773s strategy is to not talk about all the
2776s upcoming content right mm-hmm the only
2779s plan just works better
2780s okay sure I hope honestly I don't know
2786s why I dislike the word strategy and I do
2788s not
2788s I associate with management Romania well
2790s I hear the word strategy a lot and my in
2792s my day-to-day so I'm probably tired I'm
2794s talking about like a military strategies
2796s the cool guy okay like a management
2798s strategy or middle it's so an attack
2799s plan yeah Matt our plan I say okay it's
2810s that loads of people are talking about
2812s things and they're making weird
2813s assumptions and I can't yeah correct the
2816s assumption and they keep asking those
2817s questions and like I really want to
2818s answer that the pivot example was the
2821s month of April month of April we were in
2823s that position where it's like we want to
2825s talk about so many different things but
2827s we're not in that position to do it and
2830s it is frustrating obviously because it's
2832s a new to you guys it makes us seem like
2835s nothing's going on but there's a hell of
2837s a lot of stuff going on then it's
2838s amazing and I'm hyped but I wrote buzz
2840s in the office it's really nice it's all
2842s the teams are talking to each other
2843s everyone's cooperating I mean teams talk
2845s to each other
2847s everyone's coming to each other's desk
2848s being like what you working on your
2850s working on this yeah how can i
2851s coordinate what I'm doing lots of
2852s back-and-forth there is stuff happening
2855s we just obviously we don't want to go
2857s into that again it seems like I say this
2859s every stream but it's just good to
2860s rewrite but don't ever want to get into
2862s a snare we talk about something and then
2863s it doesn't happen because then of course
2865s it creates the perception about
2866s unfinished business same reason is when
2869s we give a date and then that date
2871s doesn't happen you guys love well
2872s where's the updates and so on and so
2874s forth so it's it is frustrating but the
2878s strategy as it is the strategy means
2882s that you know when we get to those key
2884s beats
2885s yeah I'm really talking marketing now we
2889s can and of course tell you guys as much
2891s as we can so yeah
2893s someone asked is grout ZOTAC know what
2898s yes yes no maybe what is this strange
2903s quest also I do love in the run-up to
2906s the quest how we have see characters
2908s appearing on the council's okay yeah
2910s including London being assumed was a
2913s typo being renamed the wrong MPC yeah
2916s when the the people who'd done that one
2919s Valkyries think it was they went oh
2922s it's called clout the obviously many
2924s laughs is like no we didn't we didn't I
2927s wanted that NPC to be glory and I was
2930s convinced otherwise yeah I'm not gonna
2935s so as an FYI I'm not gonna read any
2937s questions that pertain to a character in
2939s runescape not me personally by the way
2943s who wrote that dialogue line it was you
2948s know which one I'm the one which one the
2950s line about Fox name and how hard it is
2952s to pronounce oh yeah that was dumb I was
2956s very much I was just writing and then
2960s the words randomly came out I saw that
2962s the dialogue guy I was like oh I see I
2964s was like okay there is a line in the
2965s quest that makes fun of Shaunie yeah
2967s brilliant I mean I make fun of a bunch
2969s of people in that question is in order
2972s to check that he'd be offended bikes
2973s knew he wouldn't
2974s I didn't even Argonian sorry as guns
2978s ghanian made I didn't even know I was
2981s pleased with that one although it is
2983s very different from what it originally
2985s was so reason had a completely different
2988s set of dialogue is basically mocking
2990s Twilight and I changed it to the more
2993s kind of punish title the days which felt
2995s more runescape II but I have there's
2999s dialogue in there that mocks mod meadows
3001s I think there's dialogue in there that
3003s mocks I don't think I can do a
3007s generation on stream I think I think
3009s we'll get back into it I did check with
3013s him specifically I'm literally Jagex his
3024s training dummy seem it to be honest
3027s through you you love it
3031s [Laughter]
3034s the examines hex on your fix in that
3037s scene
3038s brilliant I was so proud please just
3043s kill him kill him kill someone asked me
3046s who wrote that examined and I said I
3049s haven't read the examine tapes could you
3050s show me and they showed me the examine
3052s takes this is kill him kill him kill him
3053s kill him kill I said that was more rave
3054s it
3056s no one else in the company would write
3058s that German text who are you HOT it's
3061s the bit I'm proudest of is a bit there's
3063s not many people no splits in the
3064s Narrogin team where I've replaced goggle
3068s off with dead gothics that took it lines
3071s up perfectly it took so long together
3073s right I was so pleased so pleased with
3077s that horrific moment we should think
3078s about it is really hard
3080s that's a great it wasn't you know what's
3085s the intention for this dream but I'm
3086s loving the little Tippit's that people
3088s may have missed in the run after or in
3090s the run in the middle of the questions
3091s of I did not know that that's horrible
3093s and not surprising more we can tell them
3096s about like the development or the
3097s planning for the quest stress well I
3100s mean the the puzzle stuff is difficult a
3103s lot of it is tied into the ongoing
3104s storyline as well yeah all procedural in
3108s the sense it's unique for every player
3109s and I thought that was awesome so we
3111s made the procedural system in park for
3114s what was originally a reward we're
3117s looking at and we eventually decided fit
3119s didn't quite reach we want to do but we
3122s also in are hoping to potentially use
3124s that sort of puzzle stuff again in the
3125s future
3126s we've got quite any idea for something
3129s that we're working on the moment and
3132s modern lives to make these procedural
3134s system make these these things you can
3136s just reuse and it was basically as quick
3140s to build it that way as it was to make
3142s them bespoke what we it's a really
3146s clever little system because it account
3148s it works differently where it works the
3149s same but it's got special things based
3151s on different languages and localization
3153s things as well so there's different
3154s items that the other local other
3157s languages get so it has everything will
3160s line up and walk that's really neatly
3161s particular there's a really good
3164s question ishow which I like that which
3165s is what is your most favorite or most
3166s enjoyable part of this quest while
3168s developing for it I was so pleased with
3172s an arrogance section I mean I know I was
3174s so pleased to Howard it lined up the
3177s whole thing and getting gothic to look
3178s at his corpse elf and then say maybe I
3181s was a terrible person who's like yes you
3183s were
3184s I was so pleased that I'm a horrible
3187s person but and the best part though was
3189s getting Maude camel to play through it
3193s he lifted just turned away I hate you
3194s you I remember in the very in a very
3199s first sprint for that quest you uploaded
3202s an image in our chat rooms and it was
3205s the image of go fix with the mouse over
3208s sex kill graphics and that was all you
3210s needed to do really people just like I
3214s hate you you're a horrible person which
3218s only make me go worse
3219s I mean streamable content right now I'm
3225s gonna say like I really hope you can
3229s keep on doing quests
3231s just from a like because I never ever
3234s know what to expect for your class and
3236s that's the scary thing about it good do
3239s you think we should talk about like the
3240s Companions and tone thing seeing us a
3242s good subject to discuss yeah surely a
3243s spoiler right yeah a lot of people have
3246s asked likewise thought even in the quest
3247s which i think is a question yeah and so
3250s one of the things we went through quite
3251s a lot and that's I think we could even
3253s talk about the musical thing as well
3255s yeah he had and it's not really a
3258s spoiler his model was changed as well
3259s was it yeah yeah yeah it's caught the
3262s key word there obviously I'm not to say
3263s that say say what so we went one of the
3270s things I think that we we've decided
3273s about the last few years of quest is
3274s that somewhere along the way we feel
3275s like we've lost the tone of runescape a
3277s little bit and the runescape always had
3279s a fairly unique quirky humorous tone and
3283s I think we felt that as we've translated
3285s transition more into epic fantasy
3286s although we're happy with the epic
3288s fantasy aspect we feel like there hasn't
3290s been enough of there in scaped oh yeah
3291s the human that has been there has been
3292s extremely dark there hasn't been much of
3295s the sort more lighthearted and I think
3296s we felt very much the pieces of hey got
3299s that home a lot better so the question
3302s was how can we bring that tone in
3305s general without context without
3307s disrupting without and we did all the
3310s weird a lot of discussions about what
3311s he's really a stone how should it be
3312s what are some examples you know should
3315s it be multiplied from the holy grail is
3316s that where we go
3317s you know or should it be what's the
3319s least humorist film I can think of is
3321s probably the machinist which is
3323s absolutely miserable from start to
3324s finish and obviously somewhere between
3326s those two experience right and then we
3329s and then we were saying like is it is it
3330s fundamentally a silly is the story silly
3332s we know that the story is about
3334s appeasing the Elder Gods that's the
3336s story we've been told that were telling
3337s should we make that fundamentally silly
3340s and we were discussing like either the
3341s silly version of that story is the other
3343s gods never said how they wanted to be
3344s appeased what if they were if they just
3347s want you to put on a musical show yes
3350s this is good we tell could we tell that
3352s story would that be appropriate or
3354s inscape and ultimately we decided no
3355s that would be like the story itself
3357s being silly isn't appropriate for it
3359s what's important is that the story is a
3361s serious story but the tone is I feel
3365s like if you can find that life
3367s personally speaking I may be completely
3369s wrong but if you can find that
3370s seriousness tone with a little bit of
3373s like absurdness yeah well like I think
3376s end game did that really well personally
3378s I think yeah as an extent what kind of
3381s what we tried to do with with doing this
3382s in that we we had a serious story like
3385s it's quite a serie storyline like
3386s there's you know an evil dragon there's
3389s these rising Elder Gods in there but we
3391s want we had these two companion
3393s characters Karason thought that deliver
3397s it in this kind of of daft way so
3399s thought is very kind of over to you me
3402s he's that that's a very righteous person
3405s I'm a Viking I will go and punch things
3407s to her I'm not very smart but it doesn't
3409s matter because Thor at this description
3411s and Karras is much more he's still
3417s humorous but he's a kind of more we were
3420s pitching kind of Lucifer and Loki is
3422s kind of references for cos that kind of
3424s things so it's they're kind of still
3425s humor but it's kind of mocking humour so
3427s it plays off neatly with thought yeah
3429s they're both quite humorous characters
3431s but they're very different to each other
3432s yeah and so we deliberately brought them
3435s both in this and broke the board
3436s together so that we can set them up for
3439s using them like in more details no
3443s brainer my word but using them more
3444s later yeah yeah and that was yeah that's
3447s how it was ultimately how we
3449s how we tried to fix the the tone problem
3451s is to have characters there who are
3452s funny and can give a funny perspective
3454s on things rather than having keropok
3456s someone asking how did jr. manage to
3458s make is their way all the way over to
3460s birth or you just rode on veloute so
3464s it's just a cutscene I'm just about to
3467s cut serious tunas livery
3469s how'd you get what's his livers up the
3472s stair sure things can get upstairs we
3475s don't know she's a really big snake
3477s there was a you remember till death do
3480s us part
3480s yes thirsty part whichever is other
3483s people were saying why did why did why
3485s did the Villita not come and help so I
3488s found this amazing gift of a tortoise
3489s walking really slowly she's not gonna
3493s get there in time and then they have a
3496s question obviously spoiler terrific
3497s question just give you a know if some
3498s people want to meet the stream very
3499s quickly but why was rel doe decided to
3504s be honestly the big reveal
3505s it's a way so we played around with a
3508s lot although ever since I would decided
3511s that if this year
3513s we played around with a lot of options
3516s of who work we knew that there were
3517s certain things we wanted from Charis we
3520s knew that he was needed to be account
3522s that everyone had ratted with and we
3524s knew he need to be character that people
3528s felt comfortable interacted with and win
3529s attractive relatively often would also
3531s need to be someone who was in a position
3532s of influence and authority so we looked
3536s through various things I think one who
3538s was an original pitch was someone we
3542s still like the makeover mage oh yeah
3547s how would you then change would you then
3550s sorta cauldron and but we decided I
3556s didn't really quite work he didn't have
3557s any kind of story impact and we looked
3560s back through you know the various
3561s characters naturally well doe works
3563s perfectly yeah like everyone's
3566s interacted with him they've done all the
3567s quest it you know get there to him
3569s people go and chat with him he's a nice
3571s enough person but he's not like changing
3574s him isn't gonna fundamentally completely
3575s destroy the game or change any major
3577s things we don't have a billion different
3579s things aside into him he's relatively
3581s easy to
3583s I think I kept wanting it to be someone
3585s ridiculous by cocaine talked out of it I
3588s think he what is my exam Iraq or
3590s something someone really disruptive that
3595s just messes the game yeah we talked
3597s about there are technical considerations
3598s as well like it we do have to be careful
3600s about breaking content exactly there was
3602s talk of like the wise old man but we
3604s couldn't do that because his huge went
3605s to there's someone mentioned to tiffy
3606s and I just laughed solidly for about
3608s half an hour he's so much science
3612s serving Guppies I mean that would have
3614s been very confusing there's a micro
3617s cotton duck called binary it's a murder
3621s mystery and the antagonist is dead and
3623s has left clues that's the premise of the
3625s book is on spoiler has left clues for
3628s the detective to follow and so the
3629s entire mystery takes place in the
3630s antagonist is dead that's what we should
3632s done yeah then we wouldn't have had of
3634s comedy sidekick Harry to it we need it
3636s to that would be terrible
3638s okay so oh wow so so too there you go
3642s so yeah we've talked about a fair bear
3645s obviously if you missed in the first 15
3648s minutes of the stream where we've talked
3649s about the concave stuff where my Jackman
3653s was born went into death of all that do
3655s you watch that back of why switch off
3656s the TL DW as always that is summarized
3659s if you're joining this late you would
3661s have missed two scenes acted out here on
3664s the couch because currently you go back
3667s there not engaging breathe properly oh
3669s that was something to behold and of
3671s course we went into kind of behind the
3673s scenes of the desperate times quest and
3675s had some really cool insights courtesy
3677s of North raving them on Jack as well
3679s next up on the stream schedule is on
3683s Friday so this coming Friday at 3
3685s o'clock game time says 1500 game time
3687s that is going to be the data stream with
3690s myself and a big surprise in that stream
3694s as well so do come watch it I beg you
3697s because you'll want to and then a path
3701s when that as always we mentioned when I
3704s get the if you're affected by the
3706s endgame stuff wouldn't be getting to fix
3707s out for that as soon as we can to try
3710s and help out anyone in those states but
3712s yeah
3713s I think that's everything as it is and
3716s as always I was a great question God why
3718s did Carroll's continue to discuss
3720s himself in dimension of disaster cause
3724s yes you wouldn't want to give yourself
3728s away exactly because if you revealed
3730s himself to be a master illusionist then
3732s summer Eagle would have indeed one set
3735s John did you play something really the
3742s chats a bit of it the chats giving you
3744s up there but I've just seen the chat all
3745s saying the line all that way why are
3747s they saying that line because I haven't
3751s noticed he'd come back into the room
3752s snuck back in unbelievable all right so
3763s as always on the web space fire outlet
3765s scape for everyone who's watched a
3766s stream so good luck on that
3768s again thank you so so much for joining
3770s us we do hope you're enjoying the quest
3773s or if you've finished it have enjoyed
3774s the quest and as always we'll see you
3778s around will be on discord here there and
3780s everywhere ready forms Twitter
3782s everything so yes as always take care of
3784s everyone and have a good one
3799s you