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0s hello everyone welcome welcome welcome
2s we are live for our general based Q&A
5s here on a twitch channel I do apologize
8s a little bit I feel a little bit off at
10s the moment so hopefully it doesn't deter
12s from the flow of in so to speak but as
14s always to get friends into it we
17s actually I haven't stream on the same
18s day we have a game update which is weird
20s because obviously to Tuesday and due to
22s the Easter long weekend we had a game up
26s to go live today
27s I'm afraid over to more porky to my left
31s because he I imagine he wants talk about
32s a little bit what's in this game up to
33s it yes we actually had stroopwafels this
36s week very proud of those of course why
39s are you proud of them people just as
41s well let's introduce you properly first
42s of all so more pokey you work in I'm on
45s are three of course Community Managers
47s so I always sit next to you sir yes and
49s I'm Dutch
50s so I have a special relationship with
53s this this week's update it was very
56s laughs phrase before a special
58s relationship with an update like the
60s Netherlands best and only export yes yes
70s we've got the beautiful stroopwafels
72s this week can you still get credit for
74s no limit I'm not sure you can
75s oh now we've got like David Wetzel no
79s it's not I don't know we've got our min
82s from viewer but that like it stick to
84s that wasn't I will what argue all that
86s off-camera about that but yes true pubs
89s are a beautiful Dutch delicacy and they
93s like to thin wafers nested way much
95s Shogun described so have some caramel in
97s between or if you're like him you can
99s also pick banana in between and you can
101s potentially get a banana strict waffle
102s and so yeah that's true quartz so a
105s couple things that we'll get into in
107s just a few moments but of course we had
109s probable Vic go out we have a disco
111s channel that we've reopened for you to
114s get involved in discussions on
116s Popovic which is disgorge easy /rs when
119s you're in the server or you can click
121s the link in the news post which will
122s take you right there am I right saying
123s that yes cool so you can get discussing
128s that as well tomorrow right of course
129s have more Jack who is on stream to
132s follow up with how
134s last week I went in regards to feedback
136s on company yes so you know we we've had
140s the stream we had the 180 reaction in
143s regards to weight so I mean we're here
148s to clarify tall fins and first of all
149s how was the feedback from the stream is
151s there anything that's been taken on
152s board from that so there's a couple of
155s different there's there's the graphic
156s stuff and then there's also the like the
160s mechanics in the requirements are the
161s graphic stuff like the cake design ever
163s keeps himself so the feedback that we
165s took on the capes which has started to
167s be implemented is over overall people
171s wanted the capes to be simpler that was
172s very consistent across all the feedback
174s that we saw that a lot of people felt
176s they were by too busy so not only are we
180s going to be simplifying them in general
182s but we're also going to make sure that
183s when they're polled there's going to be
185s at least one planar design whereas if
187s you look at the three designs that we
189s showed last time for each for each of
190s the three designs they were a similar
191s level of busyness so if your feedback or
194s if your opinion was that you wanted a
196s less busy cake you couldn't vote that in
198s the poll because there were three
198s equally busy capes so gonna make sure at
200s least one of them is less busy so this
202s is referring to the poll that we want to
203s put out in the piece we're gonna we're
204s gonna pull the appearances for the
205s different capes yeah color we're gonna
207s so that was that was the most important
209s feedback was that people wanted to be
210s able to choose a simpler design that
212s might be that if we pull a busy one and
214s a simple one the busy one wins but at
215s least you will have been able to vote
217s for the one that you prefer so that
220s they're looking at redoing some of the
222s graphics for the moment
224s the the other thing we're telling we
227s anticipated is that the just the general
232s problem of a combat requirements that we
233s talked about on the stream has of
235s controversy and as a difficult thing for
236s us has continued to just be it dominates
239s the chat on the discord it's it's more
241s or less like 90 percent of the
242s discussion is people arguing about
244s whether or not Reaper or Talos or grid
246s bosses should be on the cake a lot of
250s people to send me messages specifically
252s saying please don't lump
254s group combat and difficult combat
257s together
257s why don't we define as difficult combat
259s so difficult combat would be something
260s like tell us okay that group combat
262s would be something like of a raga okay
265s like group comm something where now
268s then we had to be able discussion about
269s this and there are the interesting
270s interesting how these points come up
273s that it's not just group content it's
275s not even forced group content because
277s cosmos is forced group content of a sort
279s the reason that's the reason that
281s bossing group content stands out and on
284s re4 in particular is the combination of
287s it being difficult and group especially
290s if it's small group so they're there
295s they're the problem is very specifically
296s it's not only do you want to play with
299s other players at all but you have to
301s play with very specific players
302s you can't just shield over a bit to get
304s any old random person and go do it any
306s qualified people you need you need you
307s need to be yeah you need to be good
309s enough and that you need to be good
311s enough which makes it particularly
312s difficult so yeah I want to just want to
314s say we're not we're not assuming that
316s those are the same thing so I talked
320s last week about wanting to find a
321s compromise solution that we've got
322s effectively two different audiences an
324s audience of well you can talk about it
329s as completion ism but it's about doing a
331s lot of content that's what comp Cape is
333s always stood for in the past is there's
334s a lot to do and I'm gonna do all of it
336s I'm gonna grow my skills that's ninety
337s nine or 120 or it in two hundred million
339s you've got that sort of attitude to the
341s game I'm just gonna grind grind grind
342s and then at the other half you've got
344s weariness Cape has a genuine challenging
347s combat endgame now there is content
349s there which is which only you know
351s fifteen people so that seventeen people
353s can do you know we have things in the
355s game there's a default K oh yeah and how
358s those two different concepts interact
360s with the idea of comp which stands for
362s completion ISM and lots of people are
364s quote dictionary definitions over the
367s last few months so so the solution that
370s we've got for that which we saw we do we
374s chatted about a couple of weeks ago with
376s a few players to see just whether it
378s made sense to them is is we want to
381s effectively separate out those two
383s things so it sounds complicated it's not
387s as complicated as it sounds so we take
388s the so we have the combat Cape so in the
390s current design we have a combat captures
391s three tiers tier 1 tier 2 tier 3 combat
393s Cape not final name but those are sort
396s of baseline completion ISM do everything
398s and then do super hard stuff
399s and everyone logically expect things
402s like tell us things like saw like to be
403s on those capes but then that's the very
406s people that other people tell me the
407s very point of the rework is to get those
408s things off those capes so our solution
410s is we implement what are not beating
415s around the bush
415s easier versions of those capes so we
417s remove from the combat cape specifically
421s hard group combat so Virago is gone
424s Sollux gone
425s hey ideas gone it's one walk I remember
428s and possibly also remove extremely hard
432s solar content for example tell us we
435s undecided on that yeah definitely remove
436s the hard group content possibly remove
438s the hard solar content so that was
440s obviously a huge nerf to the comic it
442s makes it much easier to get so that's
444s not very good for that's good for the
447s audience who don't want to do quite
448s difficult comic content but it's bad for
449s the audience who want to do challenging
452s combat and think that challenging combat
453s should be represented and and rewarded
455s so then in it for that community we then
457s add in effectively a trimmed combat cave
463s we're calling the heroic combat so it's
465s still the combat cape but it'll look
467s different in some way perhaps it's got
468s different particles or slightly
469s different trim on it or something and
471s that one has the full requirement so
473s that requires you to do everything so it
475s does have salt like it does have tell us
476s it does have a OD it may have
479s specifically challenging requirements it
481s may have tell us to K or tell us for K
484s on it or something we need to look at
485s what those requirements are but this
486s wasn't it's specifically aimed at combat
488s players and then the idea would be so
490s you can earn comp without doing top-end
493s combat but if you also get this heroic
496s combat cape do then have a trailing
498s progression how do you then have a
500s heroic comp cape yeah so you can
502s whatever this trim effect is on on the
504s combat Cape you can apply that trim to
506s your home market that's re to your con
507s cape so that it's sort of two types of
511s comp Cape sort of a trimmed and
513s untrimmed version the comp cave so I
515s have comp without difficult combat I
516s have comp with difficult combat that's
518s that's basically the split so you're
520s still able to show off your skills yes
522s but you can still you still have a lot
524s to work with you if you say look I'm
525s never gonna do tell us tell us it's just
527s out of my range it's putting me off
530s trying to even start doing calm because
531s I know I'll never get to tell us then
533s you can
533s still earn comp you can still do
535s everything else on comp and get the
537s complicate alright so that's what we're
540s that's not a final design but that's
542s what we are currently thinking as a as a
544s solution to this impossible compromise
546s because no one wants a compromise where
548s it's like oh well you have did you tell
550s us Boni a bit okay so so you on Twitter
552s replied a couple people and so we're
554s given a new comp okay why not in areas
556s and activities code for example areas
559s and activities specifically is that the
563s primary reason we don't have capes for
564s them is just there isn't much room to
567s make capes like we're already making the
569s our team screen by demanding all these
570s new kit and then all the conflicts that
571s come with it like the art those capes
575s take a surprisingly long time yeah so
576s asking for another six capes effectively
579s is just almost doubling the real case
581s being produced but also just those
583s categories exist for an organizational
585s purpose like in the current state of the
588s game game scaling is a legitimate
590s meaningful way to play runescape combat
592s is a legitimate meaningful way to play
594s runescape questing is a legitimate
595s meaningful way to play runescape
596s achievement Diaries aren't really that
599s they're more a kind of combination of
600s other things
601s the reason the achievement Diaries exist
602s as their own category in the system is
605s just because they they they have that
607s history and they are defined in that way
608s actually almost everything you have to
610s do for achievement Diaries fits into one
611s of those other three categories really
612s so all you know it exists for
616s organizational purposes it's not really
618s an endgame track in the same way that
620s the others are I think I think something
622s if I'm wrong but I think it would be
623s significantly easier to get than the
624s others as well and then the same thing
627s is sort of true for mini games as well
628s but what we imagine the tier 1 mini game
630s Kate being now I think is just do every
632s minute you do every mini game once which
634s by comparison to complete every quest in
636s the game is just not it's not the same
638s scale of achievement but it needs to be
639s there because it wouldn't be the comp
641s Cape if you haven't done any minigames
642s at all so it needs to be there but it's
644s not a Cape in the same way that the
645s others are like defined endgame paths we
649s could just lump the two together in two
650s misc and then it would be clearer that
653s it was just everything that wasn't on
654s the three main tracks but I think it's
656s just clear to speak up i MN out with me
659s games just the thought that's come to my
660s head I don't have a plan for that I did
663s see I did see someone saying like can
665s you at least
667s currently be completed iron - incorrect
668s they'll come could be unplayable firemen
670s what was it so so we have we have we did
674s specific tasks require a certain task
675s requirements for example as an Ironman
677s task which is you need to play a game
679s efficient roller now that is impossible
680s for Iron Men so we just ticked it off
682s for them if they did a certain thing so
684s yeah I think it just have to be the same
686s approach yeah I mean the thing about
688s Iron Man is like it's almost like our
690s policy is that we don't change the
691s design for I'm them so we come up with
693s something that works for the majority of
694s the game and then we figure out a way to
696s fudge it for I'm and I don't think it
698s can be any other way really as soon as
700s we start designing things with iron many
702s minding purpose on purpose we've almost
704s like ruined the integrity of Iron Man at
706s that point I that's kind of the point of
708s Iron Man is that you play runescape not
710s a special Iron Man version of its game
715s okay so I don't give me a river okay
717s someone come to my Porky when the soca
719s lil bit by ninja actually for the people
720s in the chat right now while we're doing
722s all carrying on with the stream I'll try
724s and get to as many questions as I can
725s but by all means fire questions related
727s to complicate rework in the chat as well
729s as the ninja team because we're about to
730s go into the ninja team specifics in just
732s a second and well that's what we can so
734s what well first of all I have we have
738s you on the stream in regards to
739s represent ninja so join up to everyone
741s missed water yes so we've always had the
744s ninja team we had them for a while
745s already and we had some conversations
749s and we thought that if the ninja team
753s would work together with community
756s management a bit more that we would be
758s able to potentially get more benefit out
759s of it and that we are able to focus
761s better on the high impact fixes and and
764s get that communication a lot smoother so
767s we've been trying to reposition a ninja
770s team slightly different and one of the
772s things is that community mention is
774s going to work much closer together with
776s the ninja team and I'll be the main
780s person for that kind of okay so someone
783s in the chat said is it really that hard
784s to prioritize though so maybe take us
786s into how we go from start to finish
788s I I think there comes a lot to to when
791s you're thinking about a fix so what we
793s we still apply the old method you've got
796s that so we collect the fixes we put them
798s on a spreadsheet and then we
800s go over them with the team so we've got
801s someone from skilling in there from
803s combat from balancing even from law so
807s we've got the skilling cancer is present
809s in there and then it's like what is
811s there any red flecks from any of these
813s counts without we shouldn't do it if the
815s rest we can least go ahead and then of
817s course it's like how many people does it
818s impact how long would it take
820s potentially are there all the
824s departments in vaults do we need
826s graphics or all those things and there's
829s so many factors involved and eventually
830s you're going to be like okay we can do
832s this so we can't do this or we know we
834s can make this killing players very happy
837s with this and we haven't given a nice
840s killing update recently so they will be
842s very happy with that or you're the way
845s around so yes though I would say there's
846s a awful lot of things that comment when
850s you were thinking about a fix really
852s cool while we're at it I want to talk
856s about I'll see clan ql2 very quickly so
859s I mean I can't I'd wanna take this one
861s or shall I it's all yours it's all hunk
863s a protein so basically frankly well to
868s slay it will release next Monday
869s it's gonna go back a week and the reason
873s for that is because of long weekend
875s we've had it's only gonna have three
877s days work worth a test in which is not
880s enough for something like clans
882s so I've told clan leaders this prior to
885s the stream but they'll now tell everyone
886s but that will be looking for a release
888s on May the 7th which is a Tuesday
890s because ever made a bank holiday so
893s that's never Tuesday game update as well
894s and that is in two weeks
896s sorry it's in a week push back a week so
898s just wanted to make you aware of that
901s one also you know how can players submit
905s their ideas for ninja obviously we've
907s had posts on disk or bread and so on but
908s either ever ways like how are we looking
910s out for them so we're kind of looking
912s everywhere at the moment so we're
913s looking in leader discord Twitter reddit
915s with forums even every now and then
917s we're looking everywhere I think it also
921s comes down to is like and we potentially
923s figure out a nice away in tourney and
925s and with if you guys like how can we
927s find nice fix because we said bent quite
930s a little time finding the right fixes
932s right now
934s so you can even taggers on Twitter
937s Macchio see what's Shogun scarcely
942s jogging yeah Jagex Shogun gigantic
944s spooky feel always free to send us we
948s might not respond but we've definitely
949s read them do we see ourselves doing
951s polls in the future I think it depends
955s on on what the content is sometimes like
959s there are many fixes that we just know
961s like you want them in-game so if we were
964s to do a port then it will just take a
966s lot longer so in that case I would be
968s like probably not worth doing a poor for
971s it if we have fixes that half the people
975s like half the people don't then it's
976s potentially worth doing a poor but what
980s we did like we would like to if we were
982s going to do a poor week we'd like to
983s have about 10-15 fixes I would say that
986s we can pour so we get so we need to
990s group up and we are collecting them and
992s as a result we were keeping those fixes
995s and then in Leamington they might
996s actually already be done so it's like
998s it's not worth keeping them so our group
1000s or fixes that we want to put out in app
1002s or strings and grows as well so Paul's
1006s yes definitely they still belong to as
1008s an option no there's still an option but
1010s in the foreseeable future and talking
1013s about one two months I personally don't
1015s expect a ninja Paul okay obviously
1017s mentioned the ninja team itself so we
1018s want to talk valve the ninja team reject
1020s I guess as it is and have a ninja team
1022s is right now so if I wanted to get in
1025s touch with a ninja Jagex porky jagex
1027s Shogun jagex POC is there anyone else
1029s who was there anyone else but that's
1031s that is a ninja so defense oh the things
1034s I don't know the more name of MA Malaya
1037s not Malaya there you go
1038s yeah so that's the fourth knee to the
1040s moment yeah so yeah that it's still the
1044s same team I would say right yeah so no
1049s that was not just whether a new shell
1051s gun who's made the move from us so we've
1054s got like a very experienced person on
1056s the team though very passionate is about
1058s it's great to see about well Shogun I
1060s would say also okay I'm gonna come back
1062s over to my Jack while we gather
1064s questions for ninja
1066s I've seen you writing stuff down says
1067s anything you want to go off yeah there's
1070s a question that keeps getting asked
1071s which I don't agree with the phrasing
1072s off but it's a fair question otherwise
1073s which is why are you paying so much
1075s effort to cater to players you can't be
1077s bothered to complete the content now I
1078s talked about this in quite a lot of
1079s detail last week but I keep getting
1082s asked it so I think it bears repeating
1084s the really simple answer that question
1087s is because there's more of them than
1089s there are of you and like we create
1092s content for players kompy's content
1094s copies content for players that's not to
1097s say that only they get listened to
1099s but content needs to work for different
1104s players and so the whole point of having
1105s like an exclusive and a non-exclusive
1107s version why do I just explained is then
1110s the exclusive version is for the Erie
1111s players and I'm only exclusive version
1113s is for the nominee players and that way
1114s everyone is happy and that's great use
1116s of development time like making lots of
1118s players happy is great use of
1119s development time so actually it's much
1122s more like we're catering to the elite
1124s we're saying comp is for a larger number
1127s of players but because that isn't
1129s suitable content for elite players
1131s because it's too easy we're going to
1134s create special special niche content for
1136s a much smaller audience and we're going
1138s to put extra development time into that
1140s so I would praise it though they're out
1141s we are we are specifically putting
1142s putting effort into players who who do
1145s want to put the app in do we feel like
1148s everyone needs comp though based on if
1150s I'm understanding the nor is in not
1152s everyone not everyone can or will get
1154s combat that's not the issue the question
1156s is do we want to restrict it to 17
1157s people I'm not people 17 people have the
1161s hardest requirement but those 17 people
1163s there's a different hard requirement or
1164s a different potential hard requirement
1166s which a difference more I just I'm just
1168s in German because when you say obviously
1169s 17 people people may be that wall with
1171s people get comp every day you of course
1172s referring to do you our people who have
1174s done ie D insane achievement a tell us
1176s before K right yeah just to clarify that
1178s as well
1178s yes so so like if only 17 people have
1181s done this and only 500 people don't this
1182s and none of them have done both then now
1185s there can be aspirational content but we
1187s have to set that bar somewhere we decide
1190s where that is you might say all
1192s completion is a means and then I get a
1193s lot of people quoting dictionaries at me
1196s therefore completion ISM must mean
1197s everything but when those
1199s quirements were created they weren't put
1201s and comp for a reason a lot of people
1203s are telling me that come the comp KP is
1204s the completion isn't a pit has to have
1206s everything on it but that's never meant
1207s that like it didn't mean that when it
1209s first came out it's never meant that at
1211s any point in its history so you can't
1212s quote the word completion isn't to me
1214s and say well obviously it has to have
1216s 200 million on it that's a compelling
1217s reason for removing 200 million as a
1220s defined objective which I don't think
1223s anyone wants it's not a compelling
1225s reason to put 200 million on the
1226s complicate the design the good design of
1228s the cake determines what's on the comp
1229s cake not the dictionary do we feel like
1232s because we've set the precedent of Paul
1233s and completionist we should make it in
1235s essence the definition that's a
1237s constantly honestly my preferred
1238s solution to that is to formally call it
1240s the comp Cape and not the completionist
1243s com stands for complex word can be the
1248s complicated can I jump in because
1250s violence like you mentioned like
1252s specifically catering to the daily
1255s players is it then I imagine it's like
1259s we're going to create a new boss and now
1260s we're afraid of putting difficult
1262s achievement exactly paul caves and that
1264s is that kind of what-ifs also we get
1266s actually pretty gives us somewhere to
1268s put elite content okay
1270s that isn't chat seems to be calling a
1274s computer complicated complicated
1276s [Laughter]
1282s compound
1283s obviously it's it's I can't begin to
1287s tell you how much of a contentious topic
1289s it is because it's very it's you cannot
1291s find that me look I think I'm thinking
1293s say something how I find them we're
1294s trying to find a middle ground and it
1296s does you cannot do that you can't find a
1297s middle ground between I don't want to do
1299s so lack and so lack should be mandatory
1301s there's no middle ground there either is
1303s what isn't on the case so our solution
1305s is to capes
1307s so in essence are more than more
1310s people's comp and then encouraging them
1311s to go up to the tears you've got two
1314s directions you can go let go you can go
1316s deeper down the grind you can do tier
1318s three skilling and then across to tier 3
1320s everything on comp so if we do this
1323s isn't the final design we haven't
1324s finally designed you can finally decided
1326s this give us feedback that's the camera
1330s [Laughter]
1332s so the TV where I can read the chat is
1334s there and the camera is there yeah so I
1336s can't see my face when I'm looking at
1338s the TV tentatively speaking it could be
1343s something like of imagine there's a
1346s version of insane phone or boss but it
1347s has the hard bosses I mentioned earlier
1349s how hard and group loss is removed from
1350s it
1351s so it's still a crazy grind to get
1353s insane final boss even without the hard
1354s bosses on here that would be on tier 3
1356s combat and then fully insane final boss
1358s is on actual tier 3 combat it may be and
1360s I'm interested in feedback here that
1362s what I was calling the heroic combat
1364s Cape maybe that shouldn't have a growing
1366s to like and final in same final boss on
1368s it maybe it should have an extreme
1369s challenge on it like tell us to carry 3
1371s K 4 K maybe that would be maybe it's
1373s maybe it's more appropriate but it's not
1375s a grindy Cape have we we don't have a
1377s final decision have that deficit shots
1379s have been considered yes that was
1380s another option that we discussed for
1382s resolving this issue was what if death I
1384s starts counted to Reaper because the
1386s currently done correct and I feel like
1390s that's a worse compromise why because
1392s now you can't tell the difference
1393s between someone who got their refund
1395s legitimately and someone who didn't
1397s couldn't that be said for like if that
1399s solves the problem for the
1400s completionists but it doesn't solve the
1402s problem for the people who want combat
1404s accomplishments acknowledged to me it
1406s feels like it cheapens what rapper is
1408s supposed to mean do we in that case then
1409s do we feel like people are cheapened
1411s their way to a boss pet they've got it
1412s with insta-kill darts so if people have
1414s their boss pets but it's kind of its
1416s kind of a that's more of a grind that's
1420s not really a it's not really a signifier
1422s of personal challenge it's much more of
1424s a signifier of willingness to put in the
1426s effort and there's quite a big split
1428s between those two concepts of thing I
1430s mean someone someone did suggest that we
1432s could do a similar thing we're like you
1434s know the various mother lode more
1435s enhancers but we you know in theory we
1438s could do those for hard bosses
1439s help you get those kills QbD yeah but
1444s again it's been again it's kind of it is
1445s blurring the line there between have you
1447s actually like if we put in a load of
1449s enhancers that helped you get to tell us
1452s for K and tell us for K wouldn't really
1455s be tell us for K anymore right because
1456s you couldn't tell different well between
1458s someone who's got it
1459s and some somebody got it legitimately
1460s and someone who didn't unfortunately
1461s that could be said about tell us walk a
1463s with him up with
1465s that's a pantheon yeah as an example
1467s yeah I can't remember chat will help me
1469s I can't member if there's a Pantheon was
1471s in place when for cable tell us happened
1473s or not but I believed as a Pantheon was
1476s used obviously to bump up people's tell
1478s us in rages so I mean as examples it was
1481s okay cool I thought so so I mean there's
1485s me someone someone made an interesting
1487s point on ready last week which I
1488s disagreed with but it was a good point
1491s it was it was effectively like Connor
1494s the specific example he used but it was
1496s you know at people should have to do
1498s things the hard way that the entire
1500s probes were taking to comp of like
1501s enhancers and making it more accessible
1503s is wrong and actually people should be
1505s forced to do accomplishments the
1507s difficult way and I get where that
1509s mentality is coming from but that's just
1510s not how runescape works in the sense
1512s that if you didn't get your 99
1514s runecrafting before runespan came out do
1517s you really have a legitimate 99
1519s runecrafting a lot players would say no
1521s I would say yes but a lot players would
1522s say no or alternatively if you've got
1524s your 99 runecrafting before runespan
1526s came out you've never done the runespan
1528s grind so he's your 99 runecrafting
1530s actually legitimate because which one is
1532s the legitimate runecrafting ground right
1533s there is no I have done it in the
1536s official way and all other ways are on
1538s are illegitimate that concept doesn't
1539s really mean anything
1540s are you have the number or you've done
1542s mmm-hmm I mean obviously it goes without
1546s saying it's one again I'll say it so
1548s yeah one hell of a topic I mean night
1550s there's no you're not gonna get please
1552s everyone with this in regards to that
1554s please remove the grouping boss
1556s requirement from the Master Quest Kapus
1557s events this is not legit love quest
1559s content that's reasonable I'll have a
1561s look into that
1562s so okay yes but like that's a reasonable
1564s thing to say and we'll have a look into
1566s I think because if we're saying we're
1568s gonna take group content group hard
1571s group content off combat it makes no
1573s sense to leave it on questing cool come
1577s over to a couple questions for the chat
1578s how will broadcast be treated for the
1580s contrary work so obviously there was
1582s their level achievements for getting
1584s conference room currently how is that
1585s gonna work we haven't looked into that
1587s yeah I don't know we'd have to it I
1588s suspect if it was anytime anyone which
1590s is a Tier one in any category it might
1592s be a bit I mean you can make to your own
1594s friends it's it's worthy of a friend
1595s achievement tier two will to your free
1597s global yeah could be
1599s seems to seems to work nicely in that
1601s sense but also for anyone who's eligible
1604s for a cake already when they log in will
1607s they broadcast to the game we did this
1610s with both logs with the cyclone boss log
1612s where if people already have it for sure
1618s when they first logged in in favorably
1620s we could do it like when you claim it
1622s for the first time or something just to
1623s spread that out a little yeah so it
1624s doesn't just do does the trim comic heap
1630s have the same stats as the base car
1632s McCabe I don't think that I don't know
1639s whether the combat cape itself has stats
1641s so from a balancing point of view it
1643s doesn't have better stats I don't know
1646s whether that means it's a cosmetic or
1647s it's a capable stats because from a
1650s balancing point of view that doesn't
1651s matter I realized like from a plant why
1652s it makes a huge difference because we
1654s all know what Cape you're wearing but
1655s the trimmed combat Cape is not intended
1657s to have to be beneficial over the combat
1660s Cape unless there's what I mean there'll
1663s be obvious possibility cursed me that
1664s we've said you get the the the
1665s complicate the passive comp Cape snap
1667s bonus is going on the combat Cape it
1669s could well be that we move that to the
1671s heroic combat cape that might be a
1674s better place for it it's it seems to me
1676s like there's arguments in both yeah I
1678s mean as admins like it's a combat cape
1679s why wouldn't have combat stats in that
1681s regards but I'm alright and saying the
1682s stats across their capes themselves as
1685s in not on the combat aid for on that how
1688s are the combat so if I so I haven't got
1690s comp Cape yeah yeah I'm on Ridge getting
1692s there but I login at this update how do
1694s I choose to get the Cape that has the
1696s combat stats on that I need so depending
1699s on what the design is it would either be
1700s the combat capable the heroic combo Cape
1701s right unlocking that Cape gives you a
1704s passive stat bonus which applies across
1706s all Cape said opposed across all capes
1708s then you just put whatever your best
1709s cape is on and the resulting stat total
1711s should be about the same as what you're
1714s getting from khon kaen now okay I
1715s suspect we would up by a couple of
1717s points rather than down by a couple of
1718s points because we're not intending to
1720s know they're not intense dirty in your
1722s Horan's combat status the current best
1724s stat total you can get from your Cape
1726s slot we're not intending to
1728s okay so that's the comp capes law which
1730s gives you the best that's okay whatever
1731s so whatever your best cape you have lost
1733s your passive bonus for having combat
1735s unlocked these your new totally Wow
1739s theory whoa there could be better
1741s contingent sin so that means that I
1744s would get seventy plus magic because if
1746s I have 30 to magic on my magic on my
1748s kilm cape and I have the passive but we
1751s need to work out what this is to make
1753s sure that it isn't okay but we're also
1756s not anything for it to be a massive buff
1758s so like I could see it being a buff by a
1760s couple of points just because it's
1761s easier to balance that way okay I've
1769s said I've seen a couple comments
1772s regarding elite dungeon cure well of
1774s course we showed a QL off on stream two
1777s weeks ago I want to say now my pocket I
1780s only come to you for that one how we
1781s where are we at on daily dungeon cure
1784s well so so we're still chipping away at
1786s it once we will work and although we be
1789s fine last minute issues
1790s so when back to the development team
1793s that QA actually wasn't holy they'll
1796s even then ninja started to help out
1798s because we we know you guys want it we
1800s think it's a priority so we started
1802s helping out we found a few more issues I
1804s believe we're fixing these right now and
1806s then once everything is signed up then
1809s we'll bring it to you all in game really
1812s and yes we could have been slightly
1814s better with her announcement of it but
1816s that's that's reality and now we're just
1818s trying a hardest all together to getting
1820s in game so in regards to obviously ninja
1825s as a team there that you mentioned
1827s obviously they'll try and jump lessons
1828s that precedent player issues and so on
1830s so forth so that's awesome them in
1833s regards to set effects I've seen that's
1835s gonna be a model right and quite a model
1837s writing comic council question
1838s presumably yes okay keep that question
1841s for him when yeah yeah or maybe we'll
1845s try and get him to put out put out
1847s something that we're all happy with or
1849s someone that we not watch it he might be
1851s watching I'm not sure unfortunately I
1853s haven't got the entire Jagex viewer Lee
1855s don't
1855s oh it's important
1858s goodness me Jack have you
1861s to rattle off I assume you have we have
1864s all the letters oh there's a big
1865s question that keeps getting asked as
1866s well phrase in two different ways
1868s firstly why are you making comp as
1872s opposed to something else as in the real
1875s working new comp
1876s why why are we doing this project as
1877s opposed to something that other players
1878s might like more Cup that shall remain
1880s nameless and the other the other version
1883s of the same question is essentially like
1885s no one asked for this why drag explode
1887s on something that no one asked for so
1890s that I mean the first one is like the
1893s team that are working on the concave
1895s rework wouldn't be working on a bank
1898s rework they're not engine they are not
1900s an engine team they wouldn't be work on
1901s a bank if they weren't working on this
1903s they would be making a small-scale
1905s skilling update or something that would
1907s be what would fit in this spot because
1908s the nice thing about reworking concave
1909s is it's it's hard like from a pleasing
1914s everybody point of view it's almost
1916s impossible to please everybody but the
1918s amount of dev work is relatively small
1920s and like it's sort of smaller than
1922s player and farm that sort of thing small
1924s definitely small of course my aunt's
1926s memory we're pretty much the size of
1930s mining and smithing so the team the team
1933s if you if you're wondering like why are
1934s we wasting effort unless it's like he's
1937s good good use of time by comparison to
1939s like you know we could add in like a new
1941s tree or something at level 70 like that
1943s that wouldn't be a great day by
1945s comparison to the impact this could have
1946s on everyone
1947s I read you the initial paragraph when we
1950s made it their plot back to January 2019
1952s the initial paragraph which state our
1954s intentions for this I think it
1955s summarizes it well I mean do it to the
1957s camera yeah do it to the coop I mean I
1960s mean no angels
1965s the calm cape should be the ultimate the
1967s premiere achievements in game for
1968s completionists
1969s however every new completion is
1970s requirement we add is met with
1972s frustrations but players who see
1973s recompensed frustrating sure if we're
1975s going to take an example I remember many
1977s of you complaining about the acts time
1979s gated achievements when Ark batch 1 came
1981s out back in 2016 and speaking first and
1985s as someone who saw that it was painful
1986s and then there's the other version which
1988s is the Slayer 120 amnesty we're problem
1992s for menopause as well but also it
1995s becomes a tightrope for us because we
1997s haven't been added as many few as many
1999s comp requirements as you may have
2001s noticed we haven't added as many
2002s compared to obviously the previous years
2004s but then of course it comes that
2006s tightrope do we add stuff that's there
2008s and then Garry comp or do we just not
2010s add anything and then people do want to
2011s read conquer frustrated by it so it
2013s becomes a tightrope for obviously you
2016s Jack and your team to try and figure out
2017s because it's your primary every every
2019s development time oh yeah every developer
2021s who the situation that we're in
2023s developers don't want to add complex
2025s because complex just generate anger the
2028s current state of comp is he's a is a
2030s problem for devs and appears to be a
2034s problem for players it's a problem for
2035s something some players love it Oh what
2037s so I was around things about this took
2040s more easy because it particularly the
2042s expression no one asked for this I get
2043s with it to the concave rework and
2046s reference a comp everywhere no one asked
2048s to this and my statement on that is
2050s eventually if you've ever like
2051s complained that there are too many
2053s complex or complained that there aren't
2058s enough complex which covers quite a lot
2060s of players then you asked for us to
2062s change the way we think about comp
2063s because at the moment we are trying to
2065s navigate the existing complicate to what
2068s we think is the best compromise we can
2070s and it's clear that no one is happy like
2074s no one is happy about the current
2075s situation because either there's too
2076s much to do or too little to do
2077s completion is unhappy like people who
2080s want the stats aren't happy no one is
2082s happy now maybe we're reading too much
2084s into no on being happy there may be
2085s there's a whole load of a sign of dinars
2087s you are totally happy but actually
2088s there's a lot of people who are unhappy
2090s about it so that's what we want to fix
2091s that's that's the people that asked for
2093s us if you've complained about current
2094s comp or any current compote events
2096s that's what we're trying to resolve cool
2100s it was a amnesty ever considered
2103s immigrants the project the scope of this
2105s project what do you mean so immigrants
2108s to reworking if we pronounce is there
2113s gonna be amnesty time gates on stuff so
2115s you have two weeks to go like a grace
2116s period sorry yeah yes yes so we put that
2120s in the poll so we ran a poll before we
2123s started proper work to try and get a
2125s sense yeah what people's kind of things
2126s were most of it was quite inconclusive
2129s but there was a fairly strong results
2131s that people wanted grace periods but in
2134s all of the feedback we got people
2135s thought that we were proposing six
2136s months grace period or something of that
2138s everyone universally said that's too
2140s long we don't want a grace period that
2142s long so currently it's likely to be a
2144s month or a couple of weeks or something
2147s your problem I I'm trying to get it so
2149s that it depends on the size the content
2151s I think it's obviously like a new skill
2154s is quite a lot more to complete than a
2157s small skilling update or request is you
2159s don't the question a few hours but a
2161s scheme is gonna take you months how are
2163s you gonna tackle the problem with all
2165s unlocking all music tracks which I
2168s genuinely I don't know which is a
2169s compression it if I don't know how we s
2172s we could theoretically have it you know
2175s so you have to complete a certain
2176s percentage of them for lower tiers I
2179s think all of them should definitely be a
2181s Tier three I don't know whether all them
2182s should be a tier 2 I haven't looked into
2184s enough okay just to clarify max cape and
2188s the current compensator will still be in
2190s the game at this update correct so comp
2192s and trim are being relabeled to legacy
2195s comp and legacy trim they will have the
2197s exact same requirements they currently
2199s have and the exact same appearance they
2200s currently are does that mean their
2202s broadcasts are still gonna fire globally
2203s when they get them that's a good
2205s question right I think you probably
2207s should like I can see an argument is
2209s gonna be interesting when you see but I
2211s feel like it undermines the whole legacy
2213s um aspect if it doesn't because if you
2214s were like what we're trying to
2215s accomplish with legacy is either like in
2219s fact that either the player who sort of
2220s is unhappy about the rework or simply
2222s doesn't know about the rework and
2223s they're like I've got my trim comp I
2224s worked hard for this trim comp I want to
2226s keep it I don't want to rework changing
2227s the requirements on my trim comp
2229s completely so I lose the Cape I work so
2231s hard for like if we move castle walls to
2232s tier 3 and you're like my oh you you
2235s know I don't want to do the rest of tier
2236s 3 or anyone what is now effectively the
2238s tier 2 level we don't want to take their
2241s caper way so that's where the legacy
2243s Cape exists but also players who almost
2245s there players who are like well I ground
2247s out the castle walls but I didn't do
2248s everything else or I grant out
2249s everything but the castle walls I'm so
2251s close to having my cape so on that basis
2253s I thing probably should keep the
2254s broadcast because
2255s you know you work for that tariff any
2260s other keeps they'll be free to play
2261s presumably not no I don't think so cool
2265s are these really accomplishments if
2267s anyone can do it I mean that's just
2269s hyperbole right like that's the kind of
2271s thing I get all the time like like I get
2274s told Oh anyone can do it everyone's
2275s gonna everyone's gonna log in and have
2277s tier 3 on launch and by everyone I
2278s assume this person means like the 15
2280s people on his friends list who all
2282s insane completionists and so yes it may
2284s well be that if you if you're if you're
2285s pool of runescape friends all consists
2287s of incredible overachievers who've done
2289s more or less everything possible to do
2291s in the game yes you probably will have
2293s tier 3 on launch like congratulate and
2296s maybe in a few years time we go in and
2298s we add more or another tier I mean
2300s obviously like what we're pitching what
2302s the whole point of what we're pitching
2304s is that we're taking the existing
2306s requirements and rearranging them but
2310s part of the point of the rework is that
2312s it frees us up to add requirements so
2316s it's not like because I think that's
2318s everyone's kind of got used to the idea
2319s that comp doesn't really change very
2320s much we don't put much more on comp
2322s actually our expectation is that a lot
2325s more will get added both both new
2327s achievements and also possibly depending
2329s on demand and time available old
2331s achievements like old old but we add in
2334s achievements and comp requirements for
2335s Old Continent that doesn't theoretically
2337s you could have a contract for a piece of
2338s content that doesn't have any compressed
2340s so so I don't I don't think I like the
2344s tasker we have right now that we've got
2346s to fix is placing all of the current
2349s requirements in the right place but that
2350s doesn't mean that's it there's going to
2352s be more requirements in future it's not
2353s like you login you've got your tier 3
2355s you're done then you're never gonna have
2357s to play runescape again it's not you
2358s know I'm gonna come to Porky for a
2362s question that I'm gonna consider to be a
2363s ninja question actually while you're
2365s here Jackie Muppet fans as well when
2367s will we see the spiky variant of the
2369s trimmed masterwork enter the game it's
2371s on more children's to-do list for
2373s smithing and stone spirits Pixies okay
2376s can we is there any progress other than
2379s when we last out of our stance where
2380s it's we're working together on the
2382s design we need to do more on that design
2384s another
2384s yeah I think it's his priority now well
2389s I think just tying into it like we know
2390s you guys want that the fixes so once
2395s once ninjas able to have a crack at it
2397s we're gonna help spiky armories on that
2400s list yeah oh sorry I'm just trying to go
2405s through the questions Fred and switch it
2406s between the scripts make sure I don't
2407s miss anything
2408s can you fix the zoom in after boss
2410s cutscenes with the new camera mode that
2411s ninja have released these so I'm
2414s guessing this is why you are on classic
2417s freedom of classic sorry freedom or
2419s freedom classic and tell us faces you go
2422s into the next phase and your camera
2424s resets I would have a guess so I guess
2427s something to maybe have a look into yeah
2431s tweeted or something at me and we'll
2432s definitely add to the sheet and we'll
2433s discuss it with the team I'm not in a
2436s position to say yes or no we can add it
2440s to the shoot make it easier for you I
2441s forgot actually can you just looking at
2449s the chat see we can get more from it
2451s Jackson - you want to add something else
2452s just asked if one legacy tom is Reaper
2456s gonna change I think technically
2460s speaking it's gonna have to why in like
2464s because comp requires Reaper and Reaper
2467s is a is a living requirement right so
2470s exactly I will always on it I think that
2471s probably will update otherwise we'd have
2473s to sort of take an exact copy of it and
2476s put that on sir like it so I think
2479s things like new skills new bosses new
2484s quests probably would still be required
2486s for the legacy cake okay I think because
2489s like I mean well we're not gonna add new
2492s bespoke achievements but because those
2494s achievements require further
2496s achievements okay it seems unnecessarily
2500s convoluted to add in effectively a
2502s legacy quest achievement for your legacy
2505s comp cape yes so just because of the
2508s nature of the way the technical systems
2510s work doesn't it seem like you have a lot
2512s of maintaining to do though because if I
2514s log in and the new skills come out not
2515s only oh sorry
2516s I'm the new rec has come out for
2518s Boston skill I don't have to maintain my
2520s new Cape I also have to maintain my
2521s legacy Cape as well well in that case
2523s it'll just be the same requirement
2524s well yeah theoretically it would be a
2526s quest comes out and it's like well I've
2527s got to complete that quest from a quest
2528s Cape my legacy complicate my complicate
2530s the team complicated just require go
2532s complete the quest how does it become
2534s legacy that I so in my mind how many be
2536s wrong legacy for me is at a time of this
2538s update this is everything that you can
2541s do to get there and since then we've now
2542s done this new Finn yeah this is why part
2545s of the point of it being legacy is it's
2547s not going to have it so whatever we're
2549s going through this rework on there going
2550s all we think this is a good idea we
2552s think this is about it everything this
2553s needs to push to tier 3 none of those
2555s changes will be implemented on the
2556s legacy Cape so if you disagree with our
2558s changes you can just ignore them and
2560s keep your legacy K that's the idea look
2563s they just want us to freeze it and keep
2565s it I mean which is lovely always yeah
2570s well you can't think that is achievable
2573s it would just require a fairly
2576s convoluted duplication of everything so
2578s they'd need to be like a legacy Reaper
2579s legacy quests legacy max and that's yeah
2583s legacy skills legacy quest legacy Ripper
2585s this he doesn't else it isn't Reilly's
2587s attack point of the legacy capes because
2590s I've also had a lot of feedback from
2591s people saying it sucks that you're
2593s freezing the legacy caves they should
2594s continue to update yeah because if you
2597s don't continue to update them they will
2598s lose their value which I think you
2600s actually feel like you can't wait I'm so
2606s we're in the same spot basically you cuz
2609s you can't find that middle ground where
2611s everyone will be happy and you can't
2613s compromise with yes and no yeah I mean I
2616s can simplify as let's put it that way
2621s what's the what's the percent of place
2623s to have a complicates all by question
2625s have we ever said there's a percentage
2627s of comp right now I don't know if talk
2629s ahead no pretty sure ease why wouldn't
2631s we have Sarah in the past I mean if we
2633s if we would have said it would be not
2635s like it would have been on a deadlock
2636s for Kali because that would give us our
2638s reason and yeah I'm gonna get stupid on
2641s that block or majority of no of course
2644s although you wouldn't expect it to be no
2646s but I think I think some players don't
2648s necessarily realize that there are a lot
2650s of players who are
2651s either end game or on like I think they
2655s probably all some players who would
2656s think that a majority of players have
2657s conquered and I isn't the case actually
2661s while you mentioned the data stream
2662s that's coming up in the very near future
2664s is not next week stream but it is coming
2668s up in the well essentially in the next
2671s couple of streams coming up we're
2672s looking to get the data stream in so
2674s always excited for them opening instead
2676s means I have to have my I've always
2680s prepared somebody say no next week's not
2682s the month ahead cuz I'm overhead is not
2683s released until next Friday oh yeah of
2686s course
2686s so the stream after that would be month
2689s ahead theoretically if my calendar my
2692s brain is correct which may not be or
2695s sale is still happening in may indeed
2697s we've been putting in these posts pretty
2699s much all the way through in the run-up
2702s to uh since about February I think we've
2704s been telling players that we're doing
2705s this or a sale so yes is coming up in
2707s May so very least the comp question
2710s probably isn't a bad idea for the data
2712s stream but do you know the ditch the
2714s date guys are absolutely hammered so I
2716s can't promise I'll be able to show that
2718s there but I mean it's not a bad job for
2720s sure is there anything else so we can
2724s plot a well take off but read choose my
2728s words anything like that just looking at
2734s the Emma got declined update that's not
2738s next week for the week after we have a
2739s short of working week so it's not gonna
2741s get the release testing it needs due to
2744s all the systems the Klan's touches so
2746s just an FYI for that can you guys see
2749s anything you want to take from the chat
2750s all I had a question which was like for
2755s those who don't for those who do want
2758s the requirements to be completely frozen
2759s housing nothing ever changes on legacy
2761s okay could you could you tell me why
2763s because I'm interested okay cool well
2765s wait for the chat come up as we
2768s mentioned about at least dungeon updates
2769s porky
2770s came to you really about that but the
2772s injurer taken these are helping mainly
2775s with the team itself so when I don't
2777s want to take credit for it on behalf of
2780s the ninja team but if they need more
2783s help than yes
2784s we are gonna help them out as well and
2786s we hope to get it ready sooner than
2788s later into the game really compromise
2790s cake that's the perfect name Oh
2798s brilliant well I'll call it the
2800s complaining cake I'm complaining so some
2809s people have said obviously it should
2810s keep Lexy cuz it's like C but some
2812s people said about obviously Reaper being
2813s a little bit out of date
2815s same reason is a lot of people want to
2816s change his Reaper especially Hagrid
2817s bosses will take away legacy cape which
2819s we love so much it goes that say so much
2823s opinion on something like this which is
2825s great because obviously you know we are
2827s looking for player feedback everywhere
2829s we can that seems to be mostly just a
2830s matter of principle but because it's the
2832s legacy cape it just ought to be frozen
2833s that I mean that's that's why I fall but
2836s why can't you define each tier based on
2840s the type of players sort of ears but the
2846s problem is so as we said several times
2848s about this project like part of the
2850s points that give people achievable goals
2852s achievable for them that makes sense for
2854s them
2855s so if we say sake of argument tier 2
2859s requires let's say let's say for sake of
2862s argument like one way to fix it is to
2863s push Reaper to tier 2 so say tier 1
2867s doesn't require Reaper and Team 2 does
2869s require Reaper then what we've done now
2871s essentially you said if you're at tier 1
2873s you don't like it we're at this place
2876s where these players with these players
2878s who can't won't do something so if we
2882s push Reaper to tier 2 and fix the
2885s problem that way we're essentially
2887s saying tier 1 is your level you're done
2890s you can't you can't complete anymore of
2893s runescape now or at least you can but
2894s we're not going to acknowledge you we
2895s you know you can push the tier 3 skills
2897s but having pushed at tier 3 skills I
2899s mean there's no point doing anything
2900s else that's how the game is structured
2902s and we don't really want the game to be
2904s structured in such a way as to say I'll
2908s give you an example from my experience
2910s on the road to comp so I done what I
2912s thought was the crux of comp in regards
2915s to the time to get it and then
2917s when I had the max Cape I realized I had
2920s such ports told port your contract is
2922s brutal like time yay it will take a long
2924s time so yeah I am technically stuck in
2928s the case of Reaper if we take your
2929s example but are you not then giving them
2931s a platform to try and get the I mean
2935s like I get that port is a really
2937s annoying kind guy but there's a
2939s difference between I don't want to have
2942s to wait this long and I can never do
2945s this and some people will say people are
2948s only imagining oh they can never do so
2950s like if only they just stepped up and
2951s did it the way you know they did they
2954s would be able to get it but isn't there
2956s a place you can't do it and it's that
2960s like everyone can get ports eventually
2962s and and some players think that that
2965s sort of planning could be rewarded it's
2967s not it's not just a blocker to you ever
2971s okay and ever going further in the game
2973s that's the distinction for me so
2976s obviously I'm seeing people ask a banker
2978s aware oh I'm gonna do flat is read what
2980s we said for the big questions Q&A so
2982s bear with me while I pull that up
2984s because that's about all we can say on
2986s that one so I'll grab that when I can
2990s there was a question about the the
2992s legacy capable it keeps it stats you
2995s know that will check oh sorry but what
2996s Alexa cake it's that I don't know yeah I
2999s think probably well sorry it probably
3003s won't keep it stats it probably will
3006s give the stat bonus that you get in the
3008s new system because I can't see it being
3011s easier stat bonus we're a third is that
3014s bonus you have for completing line of
3015s the combat cable the heroic combat game
3017s depending on where it ends up I can't
3018s see why comp shouldn't also give them so
3020s legacy comp should also give that bonus
3022s because it's harder so I don't see why
3024s she didn't give that bonus so if you
3026s happen not to have completed one thing
3029s but you have completed that interacts in
3031s a difficult way with it being frozen
3032s yeah so that would be a reason for it
3034s not to do that is it froze and therefore
3037s you know some new boss comes out in the
3038s future which is insanely hard which we
3040s think should be required for stats
3041s because it's on heroic combat and it
3044s doesn't look if you complete legacy comp
3046s you don't need to do that boss so you
3047s can get the stats that's exactly I'll be
3049s back to square one that's these actually
3050s tradition we don't
3051s so it's complicated but I don't see
3053s currently why it wouldn't complete keep
3055s it so someone's have lost track of how
3064s many new capes they're gonna be so how
3065s many new capes are they're gonna be
3066s little Astra I'm already counting the
3073s quest Cape in the master quest cape so
3075s there's also then a third tier of quest
3076s Cape three tiers of combat cape three
3079s tiers of skill and cape and then three
3081s new tiers of comp Cape that's 12 total
3086s but that includes two quests that
3088s already exist then we're also proposing
3090s now effectively you can trim or or
3093s change the appearance of your combat
3095s cape and your comp Cape so you could
3097s count that as an extra six capes but
3098s they're not they're not going to be six
3100s new capes they're going to be a slight
3102s graphical what changed to to an existing
3105s King so I'm just gonna read what we said
3107s regarding Bank rework on a big question
3109s skew and even for people who may have
3111s missed that which is when we speak about
3113s ideas and the Aria and they gain
3115s traction they then become expectations
3116s so basically how we've set expectations
3118s stuff coming out in the past and it
3119s hasn't even projects they're in in the
3122s works and we haven't said anything about
3123s until we're confident that they will be
3124s released there have been instances in
3126s the past when we've worked on a project
3127s excited about it and started talking
3129s about it like the Bank rework and there
3131s are certain things we want to show
3132s design documents etc to get player
3134s feedback on it so we need to find the
3136s sweet spot and that was what we said as
3139s summarized in a TL DW a couple weeks
3142s back on big questions Q&A it's been
3145s really nice working on Ikon particularly
3147s on mining and smithing because they were
3148s just completely open development because
3150s there's no almost by nature like they
3152s are it's like as in we just from the
3154s very start of it we're like this is what
3155s we do is the designer clothes please
3157s give us feedback on the design none of
3158s it was secret a lot of our content has
3161s to be secret like what we can't have
3163s open development on a quest we can just
3164s be like hey guys we're thinking of
3166s making a quest what do you think it
3167s should be about I'll sarin okay well you
3168s know what should happen in sarens quest
3170s die okay cool right you know I'm like we
3172s can't do a lot for a quest they really
3175s hope we don't do that I really hope we
3177s don't do this in sometime this year now
3179s because usually I kill Sonia
3182s you can around impersonal anything I did
3186s choose around the random person has such
3189s a significant law behind them yeah we're
3191s gonna kill sarin wait but my point is we
3193s can't do open development I would like
3197s to do more like when it's something like
3198s a skilling update or something like that
3201s I don't is it complicated I think
3203s there's less need for it to be secret
3204s than it is with the quest but at the
3206s same time there is an element of like oh
3207s look what RuneScape's added to the
3209s rabbit to the game we get loads of
3210s positive feedback whenever we do like a
3212s stealth update the people weren't
3213s expecting banker will always goes down
3215s really well and the quality of the
3220s content right absolutely depends but but
3222s usually like stealth updates go down
3224s well so it's yeah right he's really good
3227s cut right now all the crosses killer
3229s though oh because she's kind of talking
3231s that's how me people do referring to of
3234s course the shortness there and actually
3238s make on cakes are actually whereas on a
3242s sarin in the news post there was a
3244s mention of course of I amount
3246s restrictions in two specific friends for
3248s Samus Aran one that I do want to mention
3251s the 1.5 times XP because prime ends
3255s improv use doesn't work for Iron Men so
3257s when samus aran's on you'll just get the
3259s base XP full stop not 1.5 x XP like it
3263s is when samus aran's on just to clarify
3265s because obviously some people have been
3267s a little confused by that I didn't know
3270s if someone asked question why do you
3271s have to do everything in it here to
3272s unlock it can you not do like bits as a
3275s you know here's a fin and now you can go
3278s on forever kind of thing like why
3279s destroy it sounds like an obvious
3281s question so that I mean there's an
3285s entirely different approach to like the
3286s complicate in that like were described
3288s some people is like imagine if the comp
3290s Cape had like lengths and the more of
3293s tears you've completed the longer you'll
3295s comp Cape is so like it if you've
3297s complete one tier it's like a little
3299s tiny yeah and then like you complete two
3301s categories it comes down here and three
3302s categories and four categories and five
3303s characters right and like we could do
3305s the comp Cape that way and whenever I
3307s explained that to anyone they think that
3308s sounds ridiculous I mean I don't see an
3312s issue of it it would be like I mean in
3314s cape is supposed to be long
3316s right very small see I mean it's cool if
3320s we're talking about dictionary
3320s definitions it's not a chase you are
3323s very good you know who wears capes stage
3328s magicians can someone actually wants to
3331s do this I absolutely mean this someone
3333s do a literal count of how many times the
3336s word comp or no dictionary has been said
3341s in the shooting honestly I would be
3343s interesting how much would it be 120 224
3349s times bingo only maybe more who knows
3352s Oh Ruben I do a there we go I knew it I
3356s appreciate that that's dedicated adding
3360s you talking there isn't it right here I
3362s mean I should be the same but I'm very
3364s carefree you know yeah I do so to
3373s clarify more jack is not drinking this
3378s ginger beer with Chipotle yes and you
3381s know it's quite nice except the people
3382s show the content a problem like not
3386s without you walking all the way to the
3387s camera it's got a gob a link you can see
3390s ginger juice like it's quite nice ginger
3394s beer but it's got your pop made ready
3395s it's all undermining it so we were
3397s wondering when it was actually like not
3398s spoil or something in the beginning like
3406s promotions I do want to mention actually
3415s as we get ready to wrap it very shortly
3418s and the first time from tomorrow we're
3421s actually going to be activating the
3422s scope for player streams or for a player
3425s stream I should mention so for tomorrow
3428s at Farah call 618 30 game time I may be
3432s wrong double-check the news post huazi
3435s will be streaming here is community
3437s event at hammer Virago and that will be
3440s the first stream which will give you a
3442s chance a loot scape so do keep that a
3444s watch
3449s let's go Wow okay where was I yes so
3457s we're gonna use this opportunity to try
3459s it now and the idea is gonna be doing
3461s that one player stream a week so we
3463s don't over saturate the loot scape
3465s different streamers for each week giving
3467s them a little bit of love and
3469s essentially seeing how their streams do
3471s with loot scape so fingers crossed for
3472s that do go check it out
3474s tomorrow night so should be exciting but
3477s that instant end was something else
3479s exact I mean thank you there we go yeah
3483s there's 1930 game time I was the hour
3485s behind so I'm glad that that was
3487s clarified to me twitch channel as well
3490s this is very TV slash y'see nice and
3493s simple but yeah path Matt is there
3495s anything I've missed guys there's
3496s anything we want to clarify go through
3498s and so on so forth currents it only
3500s we've we've we've we've talked let's put
3502s it that way we've talked so yeah I think
3506s that is everything I do want to mention
3509s obviously we haven't been able to get
3511s the usual
3511s like a bigger couches were coming off a
3514s long weekend some people went in so when
3517s they were to get some of the people I
3518s wanted to get on the couch but that's
3520s fine so we'll try and see if we can do a
3522s couple more general streams in the
3523s future we can kind of go from it but
3525s apart from that feedback that absolutely
3529s sums up this project please could you
3530s stop talking about comp the rest of the
3534s stream is going Madara aura I can I have
3540s nothing that I can tell you at the
3541s moment other than what's already been
3542s said do anytime sulk
3544s do you want you can plug the sock if you
3547s want to so I was it's not a secret song
3550s anymore
3551s last week we actually added it which was
3554s quite funny and I think what Nicky put a
3556s great tweet about it but you can buy
3558s these on on the Jagex store now right
3560s yes you can beautiful you're answering
3562s your own questions beautiful beautiful
3568s sock you get two of them if you buy milk
3571s just what you get two so definitely buy
3573s them you don't get the severe food rip
3575s within it you just have to put your own
3577s in
3579s that's it really they're great promo
3581s what's up promo yeah I don't know what
3584s more to say I'll read what we said
3587s immigrants the matter or on the big
3588s questions Q&A in case we missed it which
3590s is the hesitation to release matter at
3593s all was because we said we won't go into
3595s initially it was a bit overpowered none
3597s balancing game we might reopen it during
3599s an orrery work but that might be a
3601s conversation we have or it can even come
3603s back in a different form and obviously
3605s if we have more news on that we'll let
3608s you know soon as we can I feel like
3610s towards the end of the string we may as
3611s well just done shameless plugs here
3613s there and everywhere but you know is the
3615s magic join join our discord discord OGG
3618s /rs Wow do you need more one argue about
3622s comp in the comm channels yeah if I said
3624s if I said 5% I'm so sorry I there is we
3629s have we have a special channel on the
3631s discord specifically set up for compa
3633s boy is there one for a different no I
3635s think it's just for complement which is
3637s like a hidden channel and so you can
3639s post your feedback in there and then no
3641s one else can view it except generals so
3644s it's a good place if you've got up alive
3645s as feedback that yes if you if you want
3647s to give us like a paragraph of like your
3649s huge load of feedback and you don't want
3651s to get into an argument we're bout it
3652s with other players which is fair enough
3653s then you can come on with discord and
3655s post that and it goes straight to us no
3657s one else can see it yep cool right I'm
3660s actually going ready to end the street
3661s now hopefully we'll have a nice
3662s transition and not have the stream
3664s they're streaming ended pop up out of
3666s the blue and drop it on what channel is
3671s it called up this code the one you just
3673s referred to
3674s it's called comp feedback hidden I think
3676s that makes sense yeah okay cool so I
3679s think that we'll wrap it up as always
3681s everyone I'll go fire outlet scape at
3682s the end the stream in just a few more
3684s minutes but yeah that will summarize
3687s everything we've tried to cover as much
3688s as we can in relation to the two people
3691s on the couch and what the power of which
3692s is ninja and a lot of people asking
3698s about Master Quest cape so currently the
3699s plan is some of master corps escapees at
3702s tier 2 some of mastico escapees at tier
3703s 3 the master quest cape appearance will
3705s be the tier 2 raw cape and then there'll
3708s be a new tier 3 appearance
3712s which will have some of the more
3713s challenging requirements on and possibly
3714s more unlawful cool so you absolutely
3717s sure that's the last one no there could
3719s be enough hoping there would be another
3721s question so I think that will do it
3724s though everyone as always as a reminder
3726s of course we have next Tuesday stream
3727s will post information for that stream as
3731s we get ready to wrap up but just before
3732s we do that I want to make sure that I
3734s don't miss it
3736s modern eqi knows watching stream is
3738s updated my script you able to push
3739s stream info for next weekend or do we
3741s still have it up in the air before we
3743s wrap up because I want obviously excite
3745s people about the next stream but if not
3746s then we can't oh it's a mysterious perk
3749s mysterious Perkins no it's not all about
3751s all we can say really yes there is more
3754s and I'm clearly dragging the stream on
3756s longer we want it needs there was a good
3758s bit feedback there which is coming again
3759s overlay with our social media yeah so I
3762s do know the production guys have been
3764s looking into a some way of adding a bit
3766s more of a overlay esque stuff to the
3768s stream so maybe being able to bring in
3771s Twitter questions and stuff which I be
3773s really cool because we do a property
3775s could do little wipe just plastic things
3776s and we just pull what do you want to
3777s have like a little laminated plastic
3779s thing yeah what's going on oh that's hot
3782s we could just hold them up every now and
3787s then ourselves like you still got a four
3788s wherever you can I just say that I like
3790s that the person behind the cameras is
3792s just waiting to put the viewing stream
3801s next Tuesday stream is marked down as a
3804s Content showcase so yeah keep an eye out
3808s for that one and apart from that that
3812s brings to the end and I'm gonna say you
3815s can't really take because well we are
3816s actually out here so take care everyone
3818s and have a good
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