Combat Beta Update #4

Originally posted by Chrismite

I get what the beta is for, but these changes will have to an impact on the equivalent of necromancy with being a jack of all trades combat and now that ive had months to use it. I don't see me going back to the other traditional styles unless theres a big enough change where i can feel i can put in the same effort and get the same result like necro.

Why would i do 4taa mage when i just can do necro semi revo.

Originally posted by Imaskilla097

I can't begin to fathom understanding the lack of knowledge and realization it shows these mods have with these kinds of changes... I honestly try to not mean any disrespect, but with updates like this that you plan to implement into the game it honestly doesn't make any sense. I say "plan to implement," because after the last BETA, where we were polled and asked what we thought of the FSOA and AD (with the changes all receiving a majority negative response), they still get implemented.

Why are you changing FSOA again? To attempt to make up for the nerf you gave it months ago or maybe it was the sonic wave change? If anything now you're diminishing dual wield at this point and making both sides of the style not worth using.

Now we've moved onto the BOLG and adrenaline gaining abilities?? Is the goal to just absolutely plummet all of these styles so NECRO just remains at the top? These are genuine questions I feel most people have and are already asking, especially on this thread. I would love to see an actual response that isn't just smoke and mirrors because at this time point we're tired of it.

Originally posted by Chrismite

Would the potential of raising the level cap from 99 to 120 be a good start. necro does have that over the other styles which can also correlate to his higher DPM. would also open the door to make harder content and gear. now that hit chance is being changed to hit potential i think older gear will start being more relevant. before it was just what has the most accuracy. but now we can have more weapon diversity.

Originally posted by Imaskilla097

We've shown through the previous iterations we're not going to just implement things without player feedback, its our primary concern.
I'm don't understand, because the example of the FSOA and AD changes do not reflect player feedback. It was over 60% saying no to both changes iirc and no mention prior or during the beta was it stated, "Hey we're still making these changes, we just want you all to play with it." At that point, I'd give you credit for that, but it was entirely misleading, especially with a poll to see % wise player input their thoughts on the change. So that response is not accurate.

As a result magic (which was in a good place powerwise on the beta fell behind so we wanted to give some of that back).
If that's the case, why are we adding something to new to the weapon? That change forces you to use the staff consistently if you want any remote ounce of damage increase, compared to using dual wield... or honestly where it was pre nerf with recursive hits.

so we wanted to try pulling those down, as it wasn't in need of extra power, and players had commented on it.
I would actually like to see the comments on this. As far as I've read and the knowledge I have of players in game I have not seen anything saying, "I need range to be less than it is so it can be on level with melee, mage or necro." Which in saying that is redundant because necro is absolutely wild DPS, range barely keeps up except at high enrage Zamorak.

We need to be able to have adult conversations about these things as community...
I couldn't agree more! I'm absolutely one for full communication... however from our end as players I wouldn't say we're not the ones communicating full transparency of ideas. It also makes me think of my favorite saying, "If it's not broke, don't fix it."

Originally posted by W22_Joe

Hey Sponge, I understand/appreciate that you’re in a super difficult position. I really do. Been there. And it feels shitty.

But are you (or your team leader(s)?) trying to get players that haven’t submitted to necroscape to quit? PVM milestones haven’t felt meaningful since necromancy, and this (basically all the changes) adds insult to injury BIG TIME. I kept getting more and more disheartened and frankly worried the more I read.

Anyways, stay up. Don’t let all the extreme emotional backlash weigh on your personal mental health too much. But damn I really hope you find a way to nullify basically everything posted today. Lol. Good luck sir.

Originally posted by Jay_Derkin

I was fully prepared to resubscribe to RS3 after over a year of being done with it until this post. These changes looked so exciting and actually fun to play. This is no longer the case. These most recent changes look painfully un-fun and has reminded me why I quit to begin with.