Good stuff, I can only see one issue and that's using a sigil after charging a deto, some people like to use Dragon slayer sigil, release deto an auto/debuff + WM as a combo.
If that's not something that can be changed, I'll still welcome what you're doing by removing it off GCD and not having it cancel channeled abilities.Seems it's not, I'm blind and missed the 3rd gif and just looked at the 2nd.
With these changes you can already activate limitless mid deto charge, meaning you can do that exact combo if I'm not mistaken!
Very important changes, so I'm glad the rants were filtered through to find the core feedback and it was listened to. All sigils being on the same ability book is important too. Pretty keen now.
Can we get a definitive answer on how much we are being refunded? Is it a full refund or a % based on charges?
It's to early to give an answer regarding refunding. As of yet we're still processing feedback and we may or may not be making changes to how we refund
Actually, you're right. Good catch, I'm blind!
I’ll get a follow up GIF showing this!
Very impressed by the swift changes following the feedback. Thank you.
The feedback was... tough to digest naturally but we just gathered all the critical feedback and fed back what we thought were the ideal changes to make.
From initial reactions I think we can be happy with this :)
As long as a sigil doesn't activate GCD when GCD is ready, this is all good.
It totally doesn't, RuneScape Twitter will share a GIF soon :)
I mean they kind of have to if they introduce a major PVM change on Tuesday, while planning to implement it 6 days later...
Bad on their part for not introducing us to it earlier. (which is one of the reasons for the major outrage, given it felt pushed down our throats)
Retroactively not announcing earlier was a mistake for sure, however at the very least I'm glad we did on Tuesday because imagine if we got to the update and you were suddenly surprised by this?
I like this, but it's still unfair that you're increasing the cost of the sigils. If I have the sigil now, I should also have it after the update.
Considering the Sigil you have now is one that requires an upkeep, the cost increase for a Ability which is just the sigil but with no upkeep I think personally is worth!
Hello everyone,
We have made some further changes to the refunding of sigils (see the new refund approach below), thank you for providing feedback and expressing concerns about the game integrity with the previous approach. our apologies for suggesting the first proposal was final, we will investigate how we can avoid this from happening in the future. moving forward we hope to communicate more clearly.
Slaying/Ferocious/Aggression sigils
22.5 million Shattered Anima
Additionally you'll receive:
Golden Touch/Unsullied/Limitless sigils*
Dragon/Demon/Undead Slayer sigils
Ingenuity of the Humans sigil*
*We are taking this approach because they are using different items to craft and recharge and it’s impossible for us to tell if they have ever been recharged.
Hello everyone,
We've been having discussions on how we're going to refund players who already have Sigils for the upcoming Sigil update.
To make it short and sweet, regardless of the state of your current Sigils you will receive the following items/currency back:
Undead Dragon/Demon/Slayer sigils
- 50 black stone hearts, one onyx per sigil
- If undead dragon sigil: 30 Resilient components
- If undead demon sigil: 30 Silent components
- If undead slayer sigil: 30 Oceanic components
Slaying/Ferocious/Aggression sigils
- 45 million Shattered World Anima per sigil
Golden Touch/Unsullied/Limitless sigils
- 1,000 Vital Sparks per sigil
Ingenuity of the Humas sigil
- 1 alchemical onyx
- 10 stunning components
- 50 direct components
- 750 smooth parts
To give you an example of this would work:
If I login after this update with 4 broken limitless sigils I'd be given 4,000 vital sparks.
Undead dragon Undead slayer Undead demon
:P
Big ups for going all the way here, not 100% sure about broken limitless lol but for those that have them ig they could just charge with 1 spark to play the system so it works. Still looking at double current cost for the unlock?
Yeah double cost will still be what happens, with these refund changes though I imagine it'll make the grind to that double cost much easier for those who already have sigils
How will the anima be given out since theres a 500m cap on it?
How will the anima be given out since theres a 500m cap on it?
If you reach the 500m cap, it will go into your bank instead. Make sure your bank isn't completely full, otherwise it will drop on the floor.
Hello everyone,
We have made some further changes to the refunding of sigils (see the new refund approach below), thank you for providing feedback and expressing concerns about the game integrity with the previous approach. our apologies for suggesting the first proposal was final, we will investigate how we can avoid this from happening in the future. moving forward we hope to communicate more clearly.
Slaying/Ferocious/Aggression sigils
22.5 million Shattered Anima
Additionally you'll receive:
- 22.5k Shattered Anima per charge for Ferocious & Slaying sigils
- 45k Shattered Anima per charge for Aggression sigil
Golden Touch/Unsullied/Limitless sigils*
- 1 vital spark for every charge left in in the sigil
Dragon/Demon/Undead Slayer sigils
- 50 black stone hearts,
- Additionally, if unused or fully charged
- One onyx
- if Dragon Slayer sigil 30 Resilient components
- if Demon Slayer sigil: 30 Silent components
- If Undead Slayer sigil: 30 Oceanic components
Ingenuity of the Humans sigil*
- 1 alchemical onyx
- Additionally, if unused or fully charged
- 10 stunning components
- 50 direct components
- 750 smooth parts
*We are taking this approach because they are using different items to craft and recharge and it’s impossible for us to tell if they have ever been recharged.
Hello everyone,
We've been having discussions on how we're going to refund players who already have Sigils for the upcoming Sigil update.
To make it short and sweet, regardless of the state of your current Sigils you will receive the following items/currency back:
Undead Dragon/Demon/Slayer sigils
- 50 black stone hearts, one onyx per sigil- If undead dragon sigil: 30 Resilient components- If undead demon sigil: 30 Silent components- If undead slayer sigil: 30 Oceanic components
Slaying/Ferocious/Aggression sigils
- 45 million Shattered World Anima per sigil
Golden Touch/Unsullied/Limitless sigils
- 1,000 Vital Sparks per sigil
Ingenuity of the Humas sigil
- 1 alchemical onyx- 10 stunning components- 50 direct components- 750 smooth parts
To give you an example of this would work:
If I login after this update with 4 broken limitless sigils I'd be given 4,000 vital sparks.
Just posting a comment for visibility, but we've changed the initial refund approach, which you can read above.
please keep providing your feedback on all our communication channels, it has been very useful the past couple of days.
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