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| 0s | hello everybody and thank you for |
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| 2s | joining us and watching us taking the |
| 3s | time out to come see at the first of the |
| 5s | design Diaries which we're hoping will |
| 7s | be kind of a run of more kind of |
| 9s | detailed diving into a little bit of the |
| 12s | design of some initiatives and things |
| 14s | that we're doing in the you know in near |
| 17s | future so um yeah the first of all we'll |
| 20s | talk about who we are you might not know |
| 21s | who we are |
| 22s | so yeah I'm Tim Bay I'm with timber and |
| 25s | yep we're in my t-shirt senior game |
| 28s | designer and balance of runescape |
| 30s | Matos born lead designer on runescape |
| 33s | happening for 13 years so um I think in |
| 36s | each of these videos and there will be |
| 37s | few of them hopefully we dive into the |
| 38s | kind of the riskier waters of things |
| 40s | like our monetization in the future |
| 42s | maybe mobile and stuff like that but for |
| 44s | now we're going to be talking about |
| 45s | episodic content |
| 46s | [Music] |
| 57s | episode of content like probably doesn't |
| 60s | mean much to many people use that term |
| 61s | before but if you have played quests or |
| 66s | boss dungeons lair mobs some something |
| 69s | more substantive content you play |
| 71s | through that comes out week on week yeah |
| 73s | that's what we mean by episode yeah |
| 74s | that's what we're absorbing into a |
| 75s | episodes episode of episodic content |
| 77s | yeah indeed and and what we want to do |
| 79s | is because we're now doing a number of |
| 81s | team shows making a lot of changes to |
| 82s | how we design things as well we want to |
| 84s | take you through it and that's what |
| 85s | these are about |
| 86s | it's get a little bit more in depth |
| 87s | about the things that we change about |
| 89s | how we design the game content and why |
| 91s | so you can understand why we're |
| 92s | launching certain things and |
| 94s | particularly in the run-up to reinforce |
| 95s | when a lot of these things gonna be |
| 96s | announced mm-hmm yeah okay so the first |
| 100s | topic episodic content what we're gonna |
| 101s | do is try to have a structure of the |
| 103s | things but there are a number of things |
| 104s | we're looking to solve their problems |
| 106s | yeah that the games has and each of the |
| 109s | things that we're changing is look to |
| 110s | resolve those problems so instead of |
| 112s | doing a big initiative like hey this is |
| 113s | unfinished business Haley this is the |
| 115s | year of plans whatever like that we just |
| 117s | want to resolve a few problems we're |
| 118s | gonna take that structure the first |
| 120s | thing we're looking to solve is there is |
| 122s | enough content in the game so that's a |
| 125s | statement more than a problem |
| 126s | chock-a-block yeah yeah I think that um |
| 128s | it's more in the past we've got this |
| 131s | idea that we are a boundless game the |
| 133s | identity of runescape it particularly if |
| 135s | compared to like old school is we are |
| 137s | the ones that constantly adding new |
| 138s | stuff the boundaries of the game moving |
| 140s | out was geographically story-wise i've |
| 142s | combat challenges and things instead |
| 143s | what we actually have is a buckaroo |
| 145s | worth of content yeah where we keep |
| 148s | stacking things on top of on top of our |
| 150s | poor bug yes buckaroo donkey mustard |
| 152s | Uncle Buck maybe Oh world building the |
| 156s | buckaroo but we keep stacking things on |
| 158s | top of poor buck and you get to the |
| 159s | point where we're sort of teetering and |
| 160s | we were like we can still keep stacking |
| 162s | content on top yeah but we're wary of of |
| 166s | it all falling over this is it so it's |
| 168s | not that we're not going to be adding |
| 169s | more content this is just to kind of |
| 172s | remove that fear but I think there's a |
| 173s | bit more of an orientation towards being |
| 175s | wary that the more we're stacking on or |
| 177s | problems were causing for a number of |
| 178s | reasons for a number different kinds of |
| 180s | player and actually there is a lot of |
| 182s | stuff that could benefit from being |
| 183s | reworked or improved that is cool that |
| 187s | people like yeah yeah it's all about |
| 189s | focusing |
| 190s | our content goes yeah I don't think this |
| 191s | is gonna be Rev laid to eat a lot of you |
| 192s | I think I've said this message |
| 193s | said by a lot of people already like |
| 195s | stop bringing out X Y piece of content |
| 197s | when you've already got that thing that |
| 199s | doesn't work so this isn't necessarily |
| 200s | new but I think we've got a bit more |
| 203s | braveness about how we're gonna do it I |
| 204s | know I've got another kind of thing to |
| 206s | solve before we get into how we're |
| 207s | looking to solve it right which is also |
| 209s | that the game is too confusing and |
| 210s | unfeeling unfamiliar to pick up mm-hmm |
| 213s | this might not be a lot because a lot of |
| 215s | people are going to be watching our |
| 215s | active players people you you know enjoy |
| 218s | the game they might feel this but |
| 219s | particular if you've mastered it you |
| 221s | dropped the game yeah there's that |
| 223s | feeling of like it's not confusing it's |
| 225s | perfectly fine or it's or it's perfectly |
| 226s | familiar what you're talking about |
| 227s | but actually like if you ever watch |
| 229s | somebody who's doing a let's play who |
| 231s | hasn't been there for a while yeah I |
| 233s | mean we see in the office right we see |
| 234s | people who haven't necessarily pick that |
| 236s | we're in scape from other teams for a |
| 237s | while they're like oh this is cool and |
| 239s | at the time is a cool piece of content |
| 241s | when I come back to it and then they |
| 241s | come back to log in like what was I |
| 243s | doing |
| 244s | where was I what even is this like how |
| 247s | do I get back into x y&z yeah and |
| 249s | there's so many different channels if |
| 250s | this there is the I've been away for a |
| 252s | while what's the content that's come out |
| 253s | I don't understand then there's even |
| 254s | just the inputs like how I control my |
| 256s | character weight how the UI works what |
| 258s | you know all these different |
| 260s | customization options what is it about |
| 261s | and do why is it only exactly even down |
| 263s | to kind of why does it feel a little bit |
| 265s | slower than it used to you latency and |
| 267s | things like that |
| 267s | so as a note we are timber and I are |
| 272s | actually in the episodic content team |
| 273s | yes there will be other teams and we'll |
| 275s | talk about the other teams in future |
| 276s | videos but as that's where it kind of in |
| 278s | the episodic content team and owning |
| 280s | that team there are other teams that |
| 284s | will be handling this more directly yes |
| 286s | the idea of making that experience for a |
| 289s | person coming back to the game or a new |
| 290s | player a little bit better its realest |
| 291s | oh yeah we've less friction but that |
| 295s | doesn't stop episode of content team |
| 296s | also addressing and that's where I |
| 297s | wanted to move on to next which is very |
| 298s | much your area because you're kind of |
| 300s | owning this initiative so big headliner |
| 303s | we are looking to do something called |
| 305s | remasters yes and you'll see this the |
| 308s | annual survey as well that should be out |
| 310s | about now that there's a lot of content |
| 313s | that we use that term remasters drawing |
| 315s | to kind of sell it as it were |
| 317s | yeah I mean I think we've also played |
| 320s | Resident Evil 2 remastered yep yep but I |
| 323s | think it's that level it's that level |
| 325s | and that initiative of what we want to |
| 327s | do with remaster is it's refreshing it's |
| 329s | familiar it's exciting it's new it's |
| 332s | more up-to-date it's more worthwhile |
| 334s | yeah so remastering like a weapon it |
| 337s | would bring up its debts we would give |
| 340s | any special attack we would give it a |
| 341s | niche in the game yeah |
| 342s | something it's bringing content that you |
| 345s | know love that you enjoyed however many |
| 347s | years ago it's still in the game it's |
| 349s | not as exciting as it once was |
| 350s | bring it back to the forefront yeah give |
| 353s | me a lick of paint giving it a new |
| 355s | purpose in the game and some new |
| 356s | gameplay to game ball set I mean we can |
| 358s | use a case study not necessarily gonna |
| 360s | happen but it is in the survey yeah |
| 362s | so I'm God Wars dungeon remastered yes |
| 365s | something like that might be okay so not |
| 367s | so many people are doing God Wars |
| 368s | dungeon 1 because in that bracket maybe |
| 370s | they've graduated God Wars dungeon 2 |
| 372s | there are other pieces of Clinton the |
| 374s | drops aren't as worthwhile it's level 70 |
| 376s | gear and some of the mechanics aren't as |
| 379s | interesting as we once were like the |
| 380s | comment systems evolved a lot for a bit |
| 382s | stale but a remastered version would |
| 385s | bring back your favorite lieutenants |
| 386s | yeah it would bring back |
| 388s | Brodeur Cree ara krill the desert test |
| 392s | Juliano it would bring them back but |
| 394s | make them more up-to-date make them more |
| 397s | relevant make them a higher level make |
| 398s | them drop |
| 399s | yeah gear there's more relevant so if |
| 401s | you think from the perspective of |
| 402s | something that's played game for a while |
| 403s | it's coming in I think great I know got |
| 405s | was you know I've got it kind of not |
| 407s | necessarily level playing field but I |
| 408s | know enough so that we still feel the |
| 410s | same the generals just they'll be |
| 410s | they'll be in the same places they might |
| 412s | even have some of us some or all of the |
| 414s | same attacks mm-hmm but it's that idea |
| 416s | of like what would you place maybe |
| 418s | there's an old you know kind of elite |
| 420s | dungeon yeah running through them all |
| 422s | maybe there's a quest that gives some |
| 424s | background to each of them Mary there's |
| 426s | an additional boss that you've got to |
| 427s | find and similar weights like next was |
| 429s | but also there's the quality of life |
| 431s | improvements graphically modernized not |
| 435s | necessarily the way that we pitched |
| 436s | previously if you like those oh god |
| 438s | what's going on um but then it's not |
| 440s | applying that to other things you know |
| 441s | you've got the idea reverse City we |
| 443s | mastered the rock remastered yes in this |
| 444s | survey as well the idea of exploring it |
| 446s | and fighting new quest and the little |
| 448s | kind of Easter eggs and thing |
| 449s | that a new spawn learning things from |
| 452s | prifddinas where was it for adding |
| 453s | skilling methods exactly Barak and and |
| 455s | stations that go and do things yeah |
| 458s | areas that you would go hang out in |
| 459s | trying different things like we did with |
| 461s | booking maybe there's a new wood cutting |
| 463s | way yeah everyone used to love cutting |
| 465s | cutting wood you that you would yeah |
| 467s | behind the garage rock castle |
| 469s | maybe there's now like a wood cutting |
| 471s | guild oh absolutely |
| 473s | so where previously we would have done |
| 475s | something new maybe there really would |
| 478s | have that greater impetus to remaster |
| 480s | something we'd have people are familiar |
| 482s | with that people know it's not |
| 483s | necessarily complex and just boots them |
| 485s | and make it make it relevant now so |
| 487s | where we might have come up with you |
| 488s | know a new parent farm we might look at |
| 490s | managing melissap miscellanea yeah and |
| 492s | look at we're doing that for example so |
| 495s | remasters is a direction we really want |
| 497s | to go in and we've got real kind of lean |
| 498s | in that is those right I'm really |
| 500s | excited to go revisit old pieces of |
| 502s | content really sort of like get in there |
| 506s | make them a lot meet them a much better |
| 508s | make more relevant yeah but familiar you |
| 510s | know I understand what they are or what |
| 513s | they do i yeah as laps player I |
| 516s | recognize God's dungeon miscellanea I |
| 518s | don't have to navigate it and know what |
| 520s | to do I know I need 70 agility to cost |
| 522s | us one obstacle yeah I know they're |
| 524s | going to drop God swords in three parts |
| 526s | and and and and a hill but that all that |
| 529s | content is now relevant to me again |
| 531s | exactly it's plus there's new challenges |
| 533s | that's on top so it doesn't just suppose |
| 534s | that there yeah there's a quest to shout |
| 536s | the story there's yes getting content |
| 538s | hot mines that cards yeah yeah um just |
| 541s | to kind of clear up a lot of the other |
| 543s | things we're looking to do about |
| 544s | confusion and I'm familiarity and you |
| 546s | might hear that more more more as we as |
| 548s | we go yeah we often use the term |
| 550s | cognitive load yeah which i think is a |
| 551s | kind of byte so very complex very |
| 555s | designer either yeah because um |
| 556s | complexity isn't necessarily always a |
| 558s | bad thing we don't to lose complexity |
| 559s | certainly at the higher end but it's |
| 561s | more about like cognitive load meaning |
| 563s | how much you have to keep you bought you |
| 565s | know if I want to optimize in this game |
| 567s | if I would be the best game how many |
| 568s | things are going to manage and |
| 569s | understand and remember and remember |
| 571s | that often that is often something we go |
| 573s | overboard on |
| 574s | that is a lot of the reason why we did |
| 576s | the central changes job si would be |
| 578s | working now but and those are some of |
| 580s | the first examples we've been braver to |
| 581s | change the existing game so some of the |
| 583s | other things will occur to you I mean |
| 585s | for one this might mean whether we |
| 586s | remove things mm-hmm |
| 588s | if things like if we could me master it |
| 592s | but actually there's not anything in it |
| 595s | that the mechanics aren't strong enough |
| 597s | there's no iconic characters or elements |
| 599s | to it in their head look I've never had |
| 600s | that pool the first time ik yeah it |
| 602s | never has that spot I don't want us to |
| 603s | think that hey we should lot players |
| 606s | would say don't remove it just remaster |
| 607s | it but if it doesn't have anything |
| 608s | that's caught poor to it that is strong |
| 610s | will probably look to be brave and pull |
| 612s | it out that will happen more and more |
| 613s | maybe in December I mean we did do that |
| 615s | with mobilizing armies you handle with |
| 617s | wrap hits so I think we just identify |
| 620s | more of that content and be a bit braver |
| 622s | and sort of removing it rather than sort |
| 623s | of laying a hang around and sort of |
| 625s | personally stare the motto or mantra |
| 627s | we've got as a kind of a runescape team |
| 629s | now is that we want to year-on-year we |
| 632s | reducing the complexity non familiarity |
| 634s | in the game Barbee across all of the |
| 636s | teams for episodic content because we're |
| 637s | kind of bringing out new things new |
| 638s | challenges I think mainly we just would |
| 640s | don't want to increase it yes as a team |
| 642s | we don't bring it for because we're |
| 643s | there that we're the team that is more |
| 645s | likely to bring out the new so just got |
| 648s | to keep in mind for all right thing to |
| 649s | solve three so this might be quite |
| 652s | controversial I can't work it round but |
| 654s | the thing to solve we're trying to do |
| 657s | too much at once as a runescape team yes |
| 659s | that's the pitch whenever you look at |
| 661s | ready schedule the sheer number of |
| 662s | things that we are bringing out in |
| 664s | various different categories or content |
| 665s | genres there's a lot there and um a lot |
| 670s | of this is kind of behind the scenes or |
| 672s | benefit to maybe something stuff that |
| 674s | it's certainly benefits the team that |
| 676s | you may not see necessarily yeah which |
| 677s | is if we're doing so many different |
| 679s | things so many different content genres |
| 681s | we don't necessarily get good or get |
| 685s | better at producing each of those |
| 686s | individual things to give an example |
| 688s | imagine that runescape only brought out |
| 690s | quests hmm now obviously that's all |
| 693s | going to happen but I mean it's just to |
| 694s | get a good example if we only brought |
| 696s | out quests we could improve the tools to |
| 698s | bring the out quests we could become |
| 700s | better at training and making quests |
| 702s | with the kids and employ people who are |
| 704s | storytellers you know |
| 705s | but specialize in that then so from a |
| 708s | kind of behind-the-scenes perspective |
| 709s | there's so much we can do that would |
| 711s | just kind of if we focus on certain |
| 714s | things that we make and get good at it I |
| 716s | think that also comes out in the wash |
| 718s | thought is as well yeah if we end up |
| 722s | focus on content that that plays that |
| 724s | you guys want yeah and end up getting |
| 726s | good at making the content because you |
| 727s | have one then everyone wins out there |
| 729s | exactly we get to make better content we |
| 732s | get to understand and change things |
| 735s | behind the scenes of like codebase and |
| 737s | tools and things like that and training |
| 739s | to get you're good at making this piece |
| 741s | of content and then you guys get to |
| 742s | enjoy though good because it the best |
| 745s | piece of content we get to me yeah and |
| 746s | this is and you may well have noticed if |
| 748s | you've got you have your hands on the |
| 749s | end of survey now it's being shown you |
| 751s | on your survey in that there's really a |
| 753s | small number of category of small |
| 755s | categories of content that we have put |
| 757s | in the end zone |
| 757s | yeah we've got kind of run through it |
| 760s | rattle mr yeah this is it so this is |
| 763s | about focus so this is how we're looking |
| 765s | to address it as a team this may only be |
| 767s | temporary but we're looking to focus on |
| 769s | effectively kind of for content genre |
| 771s | types good at them and we know and we |
| 773s | feel like we know and we'll survey |
| 775s | hopefully we'll prove this out these are |
| 776s | the things that you like and ooh yeah so |
| 778s | first of all bosses yep so this kind of |
| 781s | rakes down to a couple of subcategories |
| 783s | we're talking it's not just challenging |
| 785s | bosses like oh so lacks and raw gaze is |
| 787s | also farming farmable bosses but God |
| 789s | Wars generals or QbD burrows that kind |
| 792s | of thing then we've got combat |
| 794s | encounters yeah this isn't necessarily |
| 797s | just Slayer I know we kind of |
| 798s | overemphasize Slayer yes a little bit in |
| 800s | terms of all the skills this is the |
| 801s | dungeon work people who just like a kind |
| 804s | of mindless combat challenge yeah and |
| 805s | the joy of hitting something seeing what |
| 807s | it drops picking it up and then using it |
| 809s | then we've got the drop category want to |
| 812s | cut that little bit so yeah the drop |
| 814s | category is it's like an exciting new |
| 818s | piece of reward content essentially so |
| 820s | things like clue Scrolls the luxury work |
| 824s | chemical on X okay yeah I can plan X I |
| 827s | really like a hero or legendary items |
| 830s | yeah hero items like hey zombies or |
| 834s | got no carbs rod yeah like those are |
| 838s | sort of drop content yes like it's an |
| 841s | exciting new reward to go chase |
| 842s | something we want to try a little bit |
| 844s | more it's a case of um you know |
| 845s | obviously we've only got a certain |
| 846s | amount of weakness send them out of a |
| 848s | development time in a given year I think |
| 850s | we can do a lot more to make the rare |
| 852s | drop table feel more interesting like |
| 854s | boss drop tables feel more interesting |
| 856s | skilling Wow moments you know I think we |
| 858s | could do more without necessarily |
| 860s | spending the amount of time would take |
| 862s | to make a you know yeah so yeah we're |
| 867s | gonna be playing around with drop |
| 868s | content a little bit more um another one |
| 869s | is I hope that this term is gonna seem |
| 871s | even more impenetrable in cognitive load |
| 874s | but asynchronous mini-games |
| 876s | hmm so what we mean by that is a lot of |
| 879s | stuff that she plays to some everyone |
| 880s | states strengths not only because of |
| 881s | mobile because it's just how some of us |
| 883s | play and it's things like ports player |
| 885s | and farm managing miscellanea their base |
| 887s | camp in and a chronium the idea of |
| 890s | things that I can set up optimized and |
| 893s | then leave and they generate some kind |
| 895s | of benefit for me yeah it's actually |
| 897s | something a lot of people like because |
| 899s | you do cool gameplay of runescape and |
| 901s | you come back and check it so really yes |
| 903s | I mean I love logging in and checking my |
| 905s | port out seeing what the results were |
| 907s | yeah optimizing my ships and making sure |
| 909s | I got the right captain yeah crew and we |
| 911s | send them to the refreshing or the |
| 913s | voyages to make sure I'm sent the right |
| 914s | dude or I'm building all the things to |
| 915s | make sure I'm getting the right voyages |
| 917s | I want from my from my adventurers so |
| 919s | yeah it's that sort of thing it's the |
| 921s | it's the optimization and management |
| 923s | yeah letting it go out into the world |
| 925s | and hoping that it all goes up I know |
| 928s | you actually sleep on that tree oh |
| 930s | that's really annoying and then come |
| 932s | back and then deal with the aftermath |
| 934s | the reward yeah basically like we're |
| 936s | canonizing that as a kind of content we |
| 937s | do yes I'm not necessarily but as |
| 939s | frequently some you have a piece of |
| 940s | content or something we like there's |
| 941s | quests of course lesser than ever going |
| 944s | to go away exactly maybe it is so so |
| 946s | core to what moonscape is landmasses |
| 948s | which might be an accumulation of a lot |
| 949s | of these lemasters might actually bring |
| 950s | any new content themselves they're just |
| 952s | a container for some of the things we |
| 953s | talk about here yeah but also skilling I |
| 955s | will dive into each of these |
| 956s | individually now |
| 958s | I think one of the things that one of |
| 961s | the reasons we've chosen each of these |
| 962s | is these are categories of things that |
| 964s | don't necessarily add to be |
| 965s | unfamiliarity and complexity of the game |
| 967s | I think that's worth noting some of them |
| 968s | obviously do skills and we'll go into |
| 971s | that a little bit later but like quests |
| 972s | I think that we could add 300 quest |
| 974s | tomorrow but it wouldn't necessarily |
| 978s | increase the complexity too much I mean |
| 981s | obviously how you get that killer |
| 982s | rewarding one depends how free they |
| 985s | where they weave but proportionally it's |
| 988s | it's an area where yeah and it play |
| 990s | isn't one question exactly |
| 991s | go start there they need a certain |
| 992s | number of items they need to go do |
| 993s | puzzles and fight things and go through |
| 996s | a storyline and then every resolution at |
| 998s | the end with a reward like that's not |
| 999s | unfamiliar that is absolute quarterings |
| 1001s | yeah and if you're Ramar stirring then |
| 1003s | bosses become less of a problem cause |
| 1004s | you're going back I mean enriching |
| 1005s | what's bare drops alluring across the |
| 1008s | entirety of game and as long as you got |
| 1010s | a looping to tell you that it's |
| 1011s | worthwhile I think a new player so gonna |
| 1012s | value India drop for example like new |
| 1016s | Slayer mobs that's finally dungeons to |
| 1018s | go down that's fine |
| 1019s | adding to our favorite asynchronous |
| 1021s | minigames probably fine as well so you |
| 1023s | can see which is curated things the proc |
| 1025s | the things that have been problematic in |
| 1026s | the past are new systems yeah you know |
| 1029s | they sit on the edges of things grow |
| 1030s | moss them to understand the game and new |
| 1032s | minigames like DM DS that interrupt me |
| 1034s | and I amaze and think it's Aria and two |
| 1037s | macro events in a random event things |
| 1039s | and back in the day they're interrupting |
| 1041s | me and I have to understand them |
| 1042s | littering the game world so those are |
| 1044s | things kind of pulling back on yes and |
| 1046s | you'll also notice that every single one |
| 1048s | of these content categories that we're |
| 1050s | talking about all permanent content yes |
| 1052s | so the episodic content team we want to |
| 1055s | say a lot of content team or the |
| 1057s | permanent content team and that is what |
| 1059s | we are making and we always want to be |
| 1061s | enriching the game we want to have five |
| 1063s | years time we look back and think |
| 1064s | episode of content team really added to |
| 1066s | the game yeah and and definitely add a |
| 1068s | piece of content and look back on in two |
| 1069s | years time we'd be like I'm still really |
| 1072s | proud of that con yeah so relevant |
| 1073s | properly yeah part of routines people |
| 1075s | still valued or enriched something that |
| 1077s | people love so yeah I've got to get stop |
| 1079s | saying new you because obviously a lot |
| 1080s | of this is gonna be enriching what's |
| 1081s | there does this stop innovation and new |
| 1085s | content that was question that the team |
| 1086s | had a lot of |
| 1087s | how do you say not for me yeah |
| 1090s | remastering content there's tons and |
| 1093s | tons of different new things you can do |
| 1094s | with existing rewards and existing like |
| 1097s | characters and places to go and do the |
| 1100s | content categories that we have there's |
| 1103s | still tons of innovation you can go do |
| 1104s | just because like having a little bit of |
| 1106s | focus is nice yeah |
| 1108s | rather than having a complete openness |
| 1111s | yeah for that I think there's still |
| 1114s | loads of innovation and new things we |
| 1116s | can do in these categories I think |
| 1118s | certainly the team are liking the idea |
| 1120s | of finding themselves in corners when |
| 1121s | they're right - more finding themselves |
| 1122s | in boxes gives if you're gonna give it a |
| 1124s | broad canvas is often a little bit but |
| 1126s | we'll drink to come up with a design is |
| 1128s | it something taraji could have a |
| 1130s | restrictions to behind and some of our |
| 1132s | best designs have come from restrictive |
| 1133s | yeah aims and things like that before |
| 1136s | what do you think will happen so that |
| 1137s | obviously there's a lot of content types |
| 1138s | that aren't listed here events minigames |
| 1141s | world events dnb's new game types it's |
| 1144s | like that by the way things like met is |
| 1145s | like collection logs and stuff like that |
| 1147s | I think would still exist yeah they're |
| 1148s | enriching stuff that was there and |
| 1149s | something catechal they almost all into |
| 1150s | the drop character yeah exactly but |
| 1152s | what's gonna happen to those do you |
| 1153s | think like I don't think I don't think |
| 1155s | they'll stop yeah they're they're |
| 1158s | definitely not focus yeah they are |
| 1159s | definitely in something that we would |
| 1161s | not be prioritizing at all we're |
| 1162s | definitely getting these new content |
| 1163s | prepare calculate instead yeah and they |
| 1167s | all sort of fall by the way for a little |
| 1168s | bit not to say they would never come out |
| 1170s | I think if we have a really good DND or |
| 1173s | a mini game what we want to do another |
| 1174s | world event that we feel fits in with |
| 1176s | our current story fits in with like our |
| 1179s | ideas like maybe when we do every math |
| 1181s | award event one so we bring in our |
| 1183s | remastered yeah and a world event |
| 1185s | together so that we have our diamonds |
| 1187s | Eric buying over-leveraged again or |
| 1190s | somewhere else why not but a remastered |
| 1192s | version or that potentially could work |
| 1194s | yeah kind of just trying to think of how |
| 1196s | the story would fit that in but I love |
| 1197s | it but yeah that's what I mean like |
| 1199s | they're not going away |
| 1200s | yeah but definitely go there are other |
| 1203s | teams who may pick this up if your |
| 1205s | events that kind of content because I |
| 1206s | will talk about those teams in the |
| 1208s | future yeah but that's definitely not |
| 1209s | for us oh sorry aim is to focus |
| 1212s | we want to get good at each of these |
| 1213s | things we want to be kind of launch like |
| 1215s | just making sure everything that we |
| 1216s | produce is impactful |
| 1219s | and also I think you mentioned |
| 1220s | something's worth noting is the episodic |
| 1221s | content team we're really in charge of |
| 1223s | that ongoing story we're gonna be the |
| 1224s | ones driving it so if you're feeling |
| 1226s | like there's a kind of progressing story |
| 1227s | now Kara pac-land out of time just like |
| 1230s | to see that that's that's gonna come |
| 1232s | from us we're gonna make sure it bleeds |
| 1233s | through everything so that's not noted |
| 1235s | here but it's something to keep in mind |
| 1236s | so I just want to drop into some of the |
| 1238s | individual categories that get bit more |
| 1239s | information I think for bosses I think |
| 1243s | the only thing I'd want to clarify is if |
| 1244s | there is something new it's gonna be at |
| 1247s | the top end I think the people who are |
| 1248s | looking for new challenges are gonna be |
| 1250s | less interested in remastered Virago say |
| 1252s | or hard modes they're gonna want new |
| 1255s | bosses and new things to try out and any |
| 1256s | bosses are still cool you know then you |
| 1258s | know we can slap the on posters and |
| 1259s | banners and adverts and things I think |
| 1261s | that's a good thing |
| 1261s | but certainly towards the kind of far |
| 1263s | more ball mass of all range welfare |
| 1266s | bosses what if you want to call that I |
| 1267s | think would work towards the remaster |
| 1271s | what else is there |
| 1273s | asynchronous minigames where this add to |
| 1275s | daily scape what I think we're looking |
| 1279s | to do is we won't be adding too many new |
| 1280s | versions of these no I think what you |
| 1282s | know my Clara farmhands has taught us I |
| 1284s | don't know if you know this but behind |
| 1286s | the scenes that was actually really |
| 1286s | successful a lot of people came back to |
| 1288s | player even though we just made a small |
| 1290s | delicate improvement to play on farms |
| 1292s | what's that talk but that's taught us is |
| 1294s | people value those things just enriching |
| 1296s | them yeah and we will see a big boost |
| 1298s | airports whenever you have any ports |
| 1300s | mention yeah I think we're more likely T |
| 1303s | so we have got some asynchronous mini |
| 1305s | game plans in the future probably hear |
| 1307s | about them but we're more likely to say |
| 1309s | rework and managing miscellanea than to |
| 1310s | do a whole new port Spriggs on yeah |
| 1312s | exactly well yeah we're probably |
| 1313s | remaster it yeah I can see that on the |
| 1315s | survey um quests |
| 1317s | obviously the I mean there must be |
| 1319s | somebody quest Society of OWSLA etc |
| 1321s | we're sitting there going but we're not |
| 1322s | getting quests right now so how can you |
| 1324s | say that quests are part of it I think a |
| 1327s | lot of the focus is so that we can do |
| 1330s | more of things |
| 1330s | mm-hmm for me personally I think that we |
| 1335s | still internally feel like quests have |
| 1336s | to be super lavish yeah and I don't |
| 1338s | think that's where we need to be I think |
| 1339s | we don't have to break that somehow |
| 1341s | break that mentality and we've been |
| 1343s | talking internally about an attempt |
| 1345s | called novella quests not too dissimilar |
| 1346s | from bought bottle quests but where the |
| 1348s | emphasis is on individual characters |
| 1351s | if we're talking a lot about dragon |
| 1352s | cannon moments Robert the strong upper - |
| 1354s | house wise old man reacting to the |
| 1356s | Dragon King house Raptor reacting to the |
| 1358s | dragon kid and just taking a little |
| 1359s | slice a character study perhaps of some |
| 1361s | iconic familiar we go back to familiar |
| 1363s | again those many characters or decent |
| 1365s | some things behind the scenes as well |
| 1367s | which is McCrea better quest tools do |
| 1368s | more upfront design or writing bit less |
| 1371s | writers in may be here that kind of |
| 1372s | thing so just so we can get to a point |
| 1374s | where we cannot these and get these kind |
| 1376s | of a novel frequently and then skills |
| 1380s | and this is where I want you to just go |
| 1381s | to town like what because skills isn't |
| 1385s | just kind of a new skill you know what |
| 1388s | skill content there's some different |
| 1389s | things wrapped up in this yeah so skills |
| 1391s | for us is coming up with a new skill and |
| 1394s | 120 plan yep |
| 1396s | so we're looking to really small to 120s |
| 1398s | going forward yep |
| 1399s | making sure we pick the right ones make |
| 1401s | sure we pick one throughout that that |
| 1402s | players are enjoying obviously new |
| 1404s | skills are still part of that fine as |
| 1405s | well but it's also building on the the |
| 1408s | five year skinning plan that we had so |
| 1410s | it's not just like brand-new pieces of |
| 1411s | content like that it's also like |
| 1413s | creating wild moments creating key |
| 1415s | milestones and certain quests we're |
| 1418s | working or adding skilling methods going |
| 1421s | forward yeah giving with the remastering |
| 1423s | version so looking at also getting |
| 1425s | content that was what's popular and we |
| 1427s | mastering it yeah maybe bring it up to |
| 1429s | date to a high level or just making it |
| 1430s | more relevant and at that yeah I think |
| 1433s | one of the pet peeves of mine has always |
| 1434s | been sawmill and wood cutting training |
| 1437s | okay a wood cutting yeah nobody does |
| 1440s | that anymore give remaster to make it |
| 1442s | more exciting and make it more relevant |
| 1443s | and to high level players or make it |
| 1445s | more relevant to the level bandits in |
| 1446s | yeah so yeah that's the sort of skilling |
| 1449s | genre you know there are so many things |
| 1451s | in there that one out and pick a little |
| 1452s | bit but unlike for example first of all |
| 1454s | I would like to dive into 120s because |
| 1455s | this might scare a few people mm-hmm |
| 1457s | like um runescape is often being about |
| 1460s | like once I've hit my 99 that's my |
| 1462s | achievement I am done but I think we've |
| 1465s | learnt a lot from the 120s that we have |
| 1466s | done yes recently particularly slam and |
| 1468s | um there are a few things that we feel |
| 1471s | are inherent to 120 now we know that |
| 1473s | there's fullness that there isn't it |
| 1475s | kind of players will not accept yeah I |
| 1478s | think in the build so I think it's worth |
| 1480s | mentioning that we have learnt a lot |
| 1481s | from you play 120 we be read through all |
| 1484s | the feedback |
| 1485s | and who said we feel like we now |
| 1487s | understand what I want what he needs |
| 1489s | yeah that release in order for it to |
| 1491s | feel absolutely the fuel like it's part |
| 1493s | of the game and a proper a proper |
| 1495s | extension of the skill I feel like um we |
| 1497s | also learned that um something has to |
| 1499s | change players of train train for a long |
| 1501s | time to get up to 99 it feels like there |
| 1503s | needs to be a difference in how you |
| 1505s | trainer or or or the metal in some way |
| 1507s | or how it rewards me yeah that kind of |
| 1508s | thing and certainly it also has to have |
| 1510s | those milestones there's big rewards and |
| 1512s | we are going to continue to have those |
| 1514s | in that in that content so the reason |
| 1518s | we're saying this is imminently |
| 1520s | you could probably guess when we will be |
| 1522s | announcing 120s yeah I want people to be |
| 1525s | fill I want to kind of take people long |
| 1527s | of why that is good because these are |
| 1530s | these are skills that people love I'm |
| 1531s | gonna give real reasons to train them |
| 1533s | they're going to cross over to other |
| 1534s | skills yeah and we really do feel that |
| 1538s | it's beneficial so there you go a little |
| 1540s | bit of an announcement this is one the |
| 1541s | reasons we want to do the video is that |
| 1542s | we will be moving to 120s |
| 1544s | but also we want to be brave with skills |
| 1545s | and their skills and new skills yeah you |
| 1549s | could argue if we keep on doing new |
| 1551s | skills that is gonna get more complex it |
| 1552s | is gonna get more unfamiliar yeah so how |
| 1554s | do you how do you project match that |
| 1558s | it's it I think it's the way that goes |
| 1561s | are designed and yet they what content |
| 1563s | they approach so it's it's a skill that |
| 1565s | yes is good that feels like it's a |
| 1567s | quarter runescape if we didn't have wood |
| 1569s | cutting in the game wood cutting with |
| 1571s | you a runescape skill to add yeah so |
| 1573s | it's going with like familiar ideas |
| 1576s | touching into real life so you can |
| 1578s | understand what you're doing with you if |
| 1579s | you were wood going I think that's where |
| 1581s | divination fell down for example like |
| 1582s | you can't get a sense of what it's doing |
| 1583s | what it's giving me it had a kind of |
| 1585s | real world beyond yeah I don't like I'm |
| 1588s | not trying to find what would with a |
| 1590s | divining rod in the energon I'm I'm game |
| 1593s | probably one thing we learned I'm |
| 1594s | getting gothic seduced out of the ground |
| 1595s | and well and then putting it back into |
| 1597s | the ground it's like I don't really know |
| 1599s | what this means and invention to some |
| 1600s | extent with elite skill it has a level |
| 1602s | eighty requirements in order to unlock |
| 1604s | yeah it's a bit confusing and another |
| 1606s | skill does that with invention I'm I'm |
| 1608s | I'm inventing things kind of yeah but |
| 1611s | also not inventing things yeah so I |
| 1614s | think skills going forward we've much |
| 1616s | more easy to understand |
| 1617s | and less likely to be elite skills I |
| 1620s | think there will be much more like |
| 1622s | understandable for number one but also |
| 1624s | have an impact on the game I think |
| 1625s | divination had the problem of the it |
| 1628s | never impacted the game bloated on the |
| 1630s | outside yeah it was behind it was kind |
| 1632s | of a partner skillful invention they |
| 1633s | ever came for a couple of years there |
| 1635s | are other paths we can take we can |
| 1637s | geographically locate skills somewhere |
| 1638s | else like you know it's more on the |
| 1640s | fringes of the game world so it doesn't |
| 1642s | impact on new starter experience or when |
| 1643s | people come in you could think that we |
| 1644s | obviously don't want necessarily to do |
| 1646s | that and it's also the remaster II |
| 1647s | approach as a new skill could |
| 1649s | effectively you know a good example is |
| 1652s | summoning obviously the idea will be to |
| 1655s | rework summoning but others skill could |
| 1657s | sit in the same slot to summoning that i |
| 1659s | e bringing up something that I use as a |
| 1661s | follow-up yeah but does something |
| 1663s | different what something no but so many |
| 1665s | familiars do so um we can do things that |
| 1668s | make that don't necessarily have to |
| 1669s | collect your unfamiliarity um so |
| 1672s | obviously one the big questions like |
| 1673s | okay how often are we doing these things |
| 1675s | I new skills one twenties I think we're |
| 1679s | not there yet I think is one of the |
| 1680s | bigger yeah anyway would tell us a lot |
| 1682s | we've got a question in there about |
| 1683s | cadence yeah |
| 1684s | how often we do it but I think it's |
| 1686s | definitely more often than we did in the |
| 1688s | past yeah I don't touch on too many |
| 1692s | different toes but certainly like we |
| 1694s | have a manual several tell us a lot but |
| 1697s | we have a desired cadence for how we |
| 1699s | want to do it definitely a lot more yeah |
| 1700s | regular there has been in the past I |
| 1702s | said so instead of adding new systems |
| 1704s | different ways of achieving in the game |
| 1706s | which adds complexity which adds a |
| 1709s | little less focus then I'll focus on |
| 1710s | what people represent their achievement |
| 1713s | to the game and that's killing yeah |
| 1714s | skilling is runescape mean and that is |
| 1717s | the difference it's this kind of just |
| 1718s | moving the pieces about on the board so |
| 1720s | that this is where we are okay um and |
| 1724s | then the things to solve number four is |
| 1726s | there is too much dead content |
| 1729s | so when we did just kind of pull back |
| 1733s | the pen a little bit we do monthly |
| 1734s | surveys you may have received one in the |
| 1736s | past where we just kind of asked you how |
| 1739s | some of the recent content has gone what |
| 1741s | your opinions are on it an individual |
| 1744s | piece of feedback every single update we |
| 1745s | launched in the past 12 months it's at |
| 1747s | the same feedback there wasn't rewarding |
| 1749s | enough and that it was their content I |
| 1751s | mean obviously there's planet balm some |
| 1754s | early dungeons a lot of people thought |
| 1755s | it wasn't yeah but you still get that |
| 1757s | you never moved away from that feedback |
| 1759s | and we kind of dived into that obviously |
| 1761s | we want to make everything valid and |
| 1762s | everything awesome or launch otherwise |
| 1765s | what's the point why even update at all |
| 1766s | and we looked into it and our feeling |
| 1769s | was that actually it was because that we |
| 1773s | were we have such a food game has been |
| 1775s | updated over 18 years where every single |
| 1778s | piece of content is relevant even stuff |
| 1780s | that came out 15 years ago that we were |
| 1782s | just trying to slot in rewards in such a |
| 1784s | packed area like we start something in I |
| 1786s | were actually kind of the we're adding |
| 1788s | breath to our rewards rather than akshay |
| 1790s | progressing things necessarily and that |
| 1792s | meant that only if we were applying |
| 1793s | Tanisha's then only in each part the |
| 1795s | audience would really appreciate them |
| 1796s | yeah so that's where we were so we're |
| 1799s | gonna loosen our belts a little mm-hmm |
| 1801s | so yeah I think that um from what |
| 1804s | perspective this isn't this isn't power |
| 1806s | creep this isn't you know we're not |
| 1808s | going to accelerate this isn't a a Wild |
| 1812s | West of acceleration you know in terms |
| 1814s | of oh yeah reward their GP well I'll go |
| 1816s | to ten I know weapons yeah exactly but I |
| 1820s | think what we are going to do is say is |
| 1822s | okay to out mole out mode order things |
| 1824s | yeah I think that the biggest thing |
| 1826s | biggest takeaway from this is we're |
| 1827s | going to be start shedding our older |
| 1828s | yeah and not not having these spinning |
| 1831s | plates of rewards and trying to keep |
| 1833s | like dragons still viable and yeah like |
| 1836s | dungeoneering rewards still viable and |
| 1838s | all these other pieces of content that |
| 1840s | we've tried to like hold up even though |
| 1843s | it's rotting underneath yeah sort of |
| 1845s | like decaying away yeah and we try to |
| 1847s | bring any shiny thing in and sure |
| 1848s | anything has to sit amongst like with |
| 1850s | yeah content which me like no not even |
| 1853s | anymore |
| 1854s | absolutely this content is now just |
| 1855s | going to be categorically better than |
| 1857s | the content we're not going to worry |
| 1858s | about keeping all the pieces of content |
| 1860s | alive there's to be relevant for the |
| 1863s | level ranges like if I'm never late |
| 1864s | after one a chaotic but we're not no |
| 1867s | longer like having to keep him on life |
| 1869s | support yeah so obviously there's gonna |
| 1871s | be a lot of people screaming right now |
| 1872s | yes saying things like sell sell dragon |
| 1874s | sell sell various other things sell all |
| 1876s | the things that it listen yeah exactly |
| 1877s | but wait what I'm hoping you see is how |
| 1880s | this plugs into something we talked |
| 1881s | about earlier and that is remastering |
| 1883s | mmm-hmm so I think what the plan is or |
| 1887s | what we would really like to do is |
| 1888s | instead of adding things that are new |
| 1890s | that will replace the old is actually |
| 1892s | where we get into a sequence of |
| 1894s | remastering the old yes |
| 1896s | so those things that are largely Revan |
| 1898s | elevant are not worth using now maybe |
| 1901s | suddenly will be relevant again maybe |
| 1904s | it's worth carrying i've been using a |
| 1905s | god sword where it wasn't before so the |
| 1908s | actually is older content a usurping the |
| 1912s | newer content and we just get into this |
| 1913s | kind of sequence those iconic elements |
| 1915s | will start kind of leveling up and |
| 1917s | improving on the previous one yeah i |
| 1919s | mean obviously there will still be |
| 1920s | something new some new glittery you know |
| 1922s | fancy things that you'll desire but some |
| 1926s | lot the time will be the older exactly |
| 1928s | yeah and we have done this in the past |
| 1930s | to some extent |
| 1932s | yeah we definitely beginning a little |
| 1933s | bolder about it in future and being a |
| 1936s | bit more say like a little less |
| 1939s | careful about where whether it's a |
| 1941s | conference it you probably kind of |
| 1943s | tested this out in a few things like |
| 1945s | money in smithing thought right there |
| 1946s | let's make MGP generation from |
| 1947s | non-combat skilling this let's bring it |
| 1949s | up that's the kind of thing we're |
| 1951s | talking about let's um let's kind of |
| 1953s | take that older piece of content this |
| 1954s | familiar and just make it relevant again |
| 1956s | and see where we were at so now we can |
| 1958s | start talking about things like what's |
| 1959s | the best boss to fight this level it's |
| 1961s | king black dragon you know you knew |
| 1962s | perhaps if we did a remaster what's the |
| 1965s | best weapon to use this level while work |
| 1967s | is actually you know the dragon dragon |
| 1969s | dagger yeah why not why not and so we'll |
| 1971s | be approaching in that way mm-hm |
| 1973s | so don't necessarily sell everything |
| 1976s | correct you know he's an office Lee with |
| 1979s | things like kind of weapon diversity |
| 1980s | like blaring on the top of that you know |
| 1981s | like it feels like we're enriching that |
| 1983s | game that is there rather than just |
| 1986s | bolting on yeah okay looking in what |
| 1989s | question is about this so is the movies |
| 1993s | being older content just dies have comes |
| 1994s | irrelevant I think we've got that and |
| 1996s | won't this add to confusion and their |
| 1997s | lack of simplicity I I think we'd be |
| 2000s | lying if we said that this was a silver |
| 2003s | bullet for solving oh yeah everything |
| 2005s | but one of the biggest things that we're |
| 2006s | gonna have to be aware of is somebody |
| 2008s | comes back to the game for example and |
| 2009s | wants a familiar game experience or they |
| 2011s | have in their bank is gonna feel very |
| 2013s | different like what is valuable or good |
| 2015s | now but I think if we get to a place |
| 2018s | where the question is quite simple the |
| 2019s | questions are simple like you know how |
| 2021s | do I get good at combat |
| 2022s | what dagger should I be using rather |
| 2026s | than things like what even is the right |
| 2028s | weapon to be using right now we've got |
| 2030s | new weapon types etcetera etcetera but |
| 2032s | that was the direction we were going in |
| 2034s | we want to make sure the questions is |
| 2035s | simple and people can just the systems |
| 2037s | are there to help and the answers as |
| 2038s | simple as well yeah so the idea is |
| 2040s | saying how do you how to do combat I |
| 2041s | know okay well we just recently met |
| 2044s | remastered gobbles engine go do gobbles |
| 2046s | dungeon content because that is now the |
| 2047s | best place to go to in combat you gonna |
| 2049s | get good good drops and yes good and you |
| 2051s | might get some upgrades and things so |
| 2053s | it's like what's go straight a good to |
| 2055s | know should be going to the new skill |
| 2056s | right now because the new skill is good |
| 2057s | good money or is like you can get this |
| 2060s | really cool reward from doing it |
| 2062s | so the idea is to keep the question |
| 2064s | simples but the answer simple as well |
| 2065s | yeah so it shouldn't it shouldn't be a |
| 2068s | complicated web of of mess yeah so |
| 2071s | understand how to do compact now it |
| 2073s | should be oh I go do this yeah III |
| 2076s | supply I immediate and how to answer |
| 2079s | that question but also how to go and do |
| 2081s | that piece of content yeah I think we |
| 2083s | always we often talk about this I we |
| 2085s | went to the pub and we chatted as |
| 2086s | designers about how we want to do lazy |
| 2087s | kind of this yeah exactly but you get so |
| 2090s | many better ideas when it's over a |
| 2091s | double burger but only the we imagined a |
| 2094s | kind of featured content pain yes you |
| 2096s | know sorry like an interface that was |
| 2099s | presented to any kind of person coming |
| 2100s | back or playing the game and each of |
| 2102s | those within that is each of the |
| 2103s | categories that we just talked about in |
| 2104s | the focus section but within those you |
| 2106s | look at them what's the latest landmass |
| 2108s | oh it's land of home and handheld time |
| 2111s | okay dinosaurs how that was relatively |
| 2113s | new but then you move to other things |
| 2115s | and then you've got what's the latest |
| 2116s | slam op maybe it's a new Dark Beast so |
| 2119s | it's familiar its we mastered maybe if |
| 2121s | you look at the latest addition to an |
| 2123s | asynchronous mini game it's there's a |
| 2124s | new ports expansion if you go to a |
| 2126s | combat experience it's God Wars and |
| 2127s | remastered or barrows remastered or kbd |
| 2129s | remastered it feels so green scape and |
| 2133s | that's what we want we want to kind of |
| 2134s | curated modernized relevant fun |
| 2138s | runescape and that can still be |
| 2141s | different from old-school where things |
| 2143s | in stasis |
| 2143s | it can feel still kind of broad and I |
| 2146s | there's something new coming every week |
| 2147s | we'd still have that excitement yeah but |
| 2150s | we're kind of keeping the feel of what |
| 2152s | runescape is and not adding to something |
| 2154s | that people feel is getting bloated yes |
| 2156s | absolutely okay all right |
| 2158s | so only undoubtedly you have dozens of |
| 2163s | questions about this more than dozen |
| 2165s | yeah we are we got a hugely active |
| 2167s | there's gonna be um we're gonna have |
| 2168s | live stream on to discuss a lot of these |
| 2171s | weight a lot the questions that you |
| 2172s | raise in the in-between time will be |
| 2173s | answered |
| 2174s | we active on social media but we both be |
| 2176s | on reddit yeah there are some designers |
| 2178s | will be on Reddit and Twitter Facebook |
| 2181s | so please do talk to us and hopefully we |
| 2184s | can bring you a little on site at least |
| 2186s | before runefest when a lot of the kind |
| 2188s | of categories that we can talk about |
| 2189s | will be filled out and then the updates |
| 2191s | that going in them will be a little bit |
| 2192s | clearer you can see a bit more of our |
| 2193s | vision of |
| 2194s | oh yeah all these things happening |
| 2196s | because a lot of the content and a lot |
| 2198s | of the focus content will be and now it |
| 2200s | still be about things of those announced |
| 2201s | yeah exactly you sort of see what sort |
| 2203s | of Carentan so they're cool exciting |
| 2205s | things are talking about yeah I'll be a |
| 2207s | bit more solid so hopefully I'll be |
| 2209s | exciting um in the coming weeks and |
| 2211s | months we're hoping to be more of these |
| 2212s | the chance to dive in in depth like we |
| 2215s | have just now I'm sorry with a different |
| 2217s | partner probably next time I apologize |
| 2219s | coming you cheat on me |
| 2221s | I don't want to bear it's gotta be done |
| 2223s | we dive into other caps please as I said |
| 2225s | things like monetization things like |
| 2226s | some of the modernization stuff you were |
| 2229s | talking about and how we can remove |
| 2230s | complexity and um familiarity and |
| 2232s | improve the feel of game there'll be |
| 2234s | another topic so we're dive into these |
| 2236s | in the futures future but for now thank |
| 2239s | you so much for your patience in this |
| 2240s | thing to us and hopefully there's that |
| 2243s | exciting elements that also start to |
| 2244s | talk about yeah yeah so thank you very |
| 2246s | much and we'll see you next time kids |