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Context: Recently created a(n Ironman) skiller. I completed the Dailies Path over two days avoiding the two combat related ones. I was previously able to reroll the two combat related challenges (Basic Prayer/Combat) but didn’t do so due a lack of funds for Vis Wax.

Monday’s update came around and I completed getting Vis Wax and I have been unable to reroll the two combat related challenges for the past 3 days. Furthermore before this weeks reset I was receiving an in game notification I could claim the new weekly rewards, but was physically unable to do so. On top of that I’ve had a daily challenge spot empty since Monday which won’t refresh.

I’ve submitted a bug report outlining what’s happening. At this point I just was hoping for some sort of clarification that yes, now you have to complete all basic daily challenges in order to continue with daily challenges as normal.

If anyone could offer insight that would be much appreciated as I’d either like an answer or to reap the benefits of the new system.

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about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Just to note, if you've created your new ironman skiller that recently, and would rather start over than wait for a fix... as of the daily challenge update on Monday, any new accounts will get the new basic challenge onboarding, which I designed to be skiller-friendly. (You don't get any basic combat/prayer challenges in the new batch.)

As you've noted, basic challenges don't expire and can't be rerolled (AFAIK this was also the case before Monday's update).

After completing the 9 basic skilling challenges, since non-basic challenges get replaced with new ones every day, you'd be able to let the skills you don't want to engage in get replaced each day, or reroll the ones you don't want with vis wax.

Since you created your account just before Monday 15th, looks like you unfortunately still have the old set of 5 basic challenges, which include a combat challenge and a prayer challenge.

So if you stick with this account, and don't want to complete your current basic challenges, you'd have to wait for a Monday patch note to change how the challenge system works to accommodate you. (The issue you're having isn't something we can hotfix.)

We're working on solutions to accommodate skillers, but managing expectations, realistically the first of them probably won't release this Monday, and maybe not the next. (We're close to the cut-off for Monday's patches to be release-candidate tested, and the QA testers on our team are currently helping out another project nearing release.)

I hope that information helps with weighing your options!

about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

(The post in this thread I intended to reply to seems to have been deleted. So I'll add the reply to it I wrote anyway, in case the info is useful to someone.)

"Not currently, but this evening I finished implementing a patch to bypass specific basic objectives that have been cause for concern, and remove their completion XP reward.

Fresh from the oven so needs to go through review, QA and release candidate testing, though.

To clarify, is it specifically the Basic Combat and/or Basic Prayer challenge you want to bypass?

And basic challenges don't expire, so unfortunately, no, waiting it out isn't currently an option."

about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by xosmellycat

Is there a way to bypass basic daily? I don’t want to gain any xp in the skills but would like to wait it out until the skill I want appears.

Not currently, but Thursday evening I finished implementing a patch to bypass specific basic objectives that have been cause for concern, and remove their completion XP reward.

Fresh from the oven so needs to go through review, QA and release candidate testing, though.

To clarify, is it specifically the Basic Combat and/or Basic Prayer challenge you want to bypass?

And basic challenges don't expire, so unfortunately, no, waiting it out isn't currently an option.

about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by xosmellycat

I wanted to do something like OSAAT but have daily challenges for a little bit of extra xp but that’s not possible with basic challenges.

Hopefully the above fix in progress solves that for you, if the XP from the Basic Combat and Basic Prayer challenges are where the problem lie for you?

Or is there another basic challenge that's problematic for OSAAT?

about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by xosmellycat

I wanted say start with fishing as a skill but access the normal daily challenges, but it’s not possible at the moment without completing rest of the skill basic challenges and get potentially levels in them.

I see. I guess I could do the same thing to the new 9 basic challenges that I did to the old Basic Combat and Basic Prayer challenges, and give them all a chat option to skip them, and make them not reward XP when you claim them.

Does mean henceforth all new players won't get XP from basic challenges because of your One Skill At A Time Account. Are you okay to have that on your conscience? ;)

Or do you have the old set of 5 basic challenges from before weekly rewards were added? (Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, Combat, Prayer). If so I could focus on just those 5, since new players no longer get them..

about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by xosmellycat

I’m not sure if I have the old set or not. I appreciate the active replies, if this seems like more of a hassle than benefit, don’t worry about it. I was just curious if I could bypass it, it’s just an account I’m working on the side. Thanks though!

Thanks for being so nice about it. :)

Did you create your account before Monday 15th? If so, it'll have the old set of 5 basic challenges that include Basic Combat and Basic Prayer. (Even if you can't seem them on your challenge list, as we now display 3 challenges at a time.)

Eh, I wrote the fix for combat/prayer skillers in a modular way that could be easily applied to other basic challenges, so it's not a hassle on my end.

I'll ask my team on Monday if I can reopen it and apply the same condition to all basic challenges.

Means all basic challenges won't reward any XP any more, but it might be better for a truly new player to initially engage with the core loop of skills without modifiers anyway. :)

about 3 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by ForUsForced

I'm stuck with the prayer/combat basic challenges on my ironman skiller.

Sad I'm missing out on the death touched dart rewards I so desperately need to kill the ghoul to access canifis and kill the kebbit from eagles peak quest to access rabbit snaring for my POF since I made the mistake of selling all my rabbits lol.

Do you believe a fix could come this monday? next? I'd rather not start grinding 5m just for traveling merchant death dart if I can get them from the new daily system :)

As mentioned above, definitely not tomorrow Monday.

The patch specifically for the combat and prayer basic challenges is undergoing QA testing.

And I may reopen the issue tomorrow to accommodate the OSAAT edge case above, depending on whether doing so gets a yay/nay from my colleagues.

How soon a patch releases after it completes WIP QA depends on a number of factors out of my control, including the release team's capacity for patch notes after completing testing of that week's headline updates, and the priority of this patch compared to others that are ready to merge.

I'd lean your expectations more toward 2-3 weeks, so you get a nice dopamine hit if we exceed expectations and do manage to get it live next Monday. ;)